Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Quinn Taylor]

On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Jorde Vorstenbosch wrote:

> As much of an annoyance as that might be I highly doubt it will be
> perennial. Even Apple doesn't take that long..

By "perennial" I meant every time an app's version gets bumped. I'm hopeful 
that in the future, the Mac App Store will be able to reliably detect.

> Regardless they might not even have plans for releasing versions in the
> mac app store. Nothing to fret about at this point.

I'm not fretting, just trying to clarify the perception of the problem. :-)

> Have you been using the mac app store btw? I wasn't able to find any
> apps that I didn't already own or that I wanted. Hope some more
> interesting ones get added.

Haven't had time to look around much. However, many of my friends have been 
very happy with the selection, which will certainly grow over time.

 - Quinn

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Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Jorde Vorstenbosch]

As much of an annoyance as that might be I highly doubt it will be
perennial. Even Apple doesn't take that long..

Regardless they might not even have plans for releasing versions in the
mac app store. Nothing to fret about at this point.

Have you been using the mac app store btw? I wasn't able to find any
apps that I didn't already own or that I wanted. Hope some more
interesting ones get added.

Jorde

On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 14:19 -0800, Quinn Taylor wrote:
> It only doesn't allow you to buy again if the version of the app NOT from the 
> store exactly matches the version of the app in the store. That is to say, 
> anytime the versions get out of sync, it won't show as installed. It's a 
> perennial annoyance.
> 
>  - Quinn
> 
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Jorde Vorstenbosch wrote:
> 
> > Hey Joe,
> > 
> > Well i don't think that's much of a problem. You can still get it through 
> > the original channel.
> > 
> > Hardly see an issue there as it at least keeps you from buying twice.
> > 
> > Jorde
> > 
> > On 19 jan. 2011, at 21:56, Joe Wicentowski  wrote:
> > 
> >> Jorde,
> >> 
> >>> It doesn't ask you to buy it again, it says it's installed if that's the 
> >>> case. I see the apps I already have as such event though I got them 
> >>> before the mac store was introduced.
> >> 
> >> True, but there's a problem:
> >> 
> >> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/07/third-party-apps-not-purchased-via-mac-app-store-may-appear-as-i/
> >> 
> >> "Apple just released the Mac App Store, and with it came one very
> >> unfortunate feature. It was well-intentioned, but poorly executed, and
> >> it ends up being an "attractive nuisance," meaning that it's something
> >> that you're really better off ignoring: third-party apps not purchased
> >> via the Mac App Store may appear as "Installed" there, leading to
> >> unrealistic expectations of what you can do with Apple's latest
> >> service... If you have not purchased an app through the Mac App Store,
> >> you cannot re-download it or get any future updates through the Mac
> >> App Store."
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Joe
> >> 
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Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Quinn Taylor]

It only doesn't allow you to buy again if the version of the app NOT from the 
store exactly matches the version of the app in the store. That is to say, 
anytime the versions get out of sync, it won't show as installed. It's a 
perennial annoyance.

 - Quinn

On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Jorde Vorstenbosch wrote:

> Hey Joe,
> 
> Well i don't think that's much of a problem. You can still get it through the 
> original channel.
> 
> Hardly see an issue there as it at least keeps you from buying twice.
> 
> Jorde
> 
> On 19 jan. 2011, at 21:56, Joe Wicentowski  wrote:
> 
>> Jorde,
>> 
>>> It doesn't ask you to buy it again, it says it's installed if that's the 
>>> case. I see the apps I already have as such event though I got them before 
>>> the mac store was introduced.
>> 
>> True, but there's a problem:
>> 
>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/07/third-party-apps-not-purchased-via-mac-app-store-may-appear-as-i/
>> 
>> "Apple just released the Mac App Store, and with it came one very
>> unfortunate feature. It was well-intentioned, but poorly executed, and
>> it ends up being an "attractive nuisance," meaning that it's something
>> that you're really better off ignoring: third-party apps not purchased
>> via the Mac App Store may appear as "Installed" there, leading to
>> unrealistic expectations of what you can do with Apple's latest
>> service... If you have not purchased an app through the Mac App Store,
>> you cannot re-download it or get any future updates through the Mac
>> App Store."
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Joe
>> 
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Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Jorde Vorstenbosch]

Hey Joe,

Well i don't think that's much of a problem. You can still get it through the 
original channel.

Hardly see an issue there as it at least keeps you from buying twice.

Jorde

On 19 jan. 2011, at 21:56, Joe Wicentowski  wrote:

> Jorde,
> 
>> It doesn't ask you to buy it again, it says it's installed if that's the 
>> case. I see the apps I already have as such event though I got them before 
>> the mac store was introduced.
> 
> True, but there's a problem:
> 
>  
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/07/third-party-apps-not-purchased-via-mac-app-store-may-appear-as-i/
> 
> "Apple just released the Mac App Store, and with it came one very
> unfortunate feature. It was well-intentioned, but poorly executed, and
> it ends up being an "attractive nuisance," meaning that it's something
> that you're really better off ignoring: third-party apps not purchased
> via the Mac App Store may appear as "Installed" there, leading to
> unrealistic expectations of what you can do with Apple's latest
> service... If you have not purchased an app through the Mac App Store,
> you cannot re-download it or get any future updates through the Mac
> App Store."
> 
> Cheers,
> Joe
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Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Joe Wicentowski]

Jorde,

> It doesn't ask you to buy it again, it says it's installed if that's the 
> case. I see the apps I already have as such event though I got them before 
> the mac store was introduced.

True, but there's a problem:

  
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/07/third-party-apps-not-purchased-via-mac-app-store-may-appear-as-i/

"Apple just released the Mac App Store, and with it came one very
unfortunate feature. It was well-intentioned, but poorly executed, and
it ends up being an "attractive nuisance," meaning that it's something
that you're really better off ignoring: third-party apps not purchased
via the Mac App Store may appear as "Installed" there, leading to
unrealistic expectations of what you can do with Apple's latest
service... If you have not purchased an app through the Mac App Store,
you cannot re-download it or get any future updates through the Mac
App Store."

Cheers,
Joe

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Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Ben Godfrey]

Ignore this. The Compare All buttons appeared when I restarted
Versions. I hadn't restarted since licensing my expired Kaleidoscope
demo. All working now!

Thanks for your help.

Ben



On Jan 19, 12:22 pm, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
> Thanks Dirk, sorry to post a duplicate request. Perhaps it's worth
> adding your answer to the FAQs on the Versions site?
>
> I don't see the compare all button unfortunately. I'm running
> Kaleidoscope 1.1.1 and Versions 1.1.3 on OS X 10.6.6. I'm fairly sure
> I installed Kaleidoscope before I installed Versions.
>
> Ben
>
> On Jan 19, 11:42 am, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Ben,
>
> > Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while
> > ago.
>
> > If all's well, you should see a "Compare All" button on the right hand
> > side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this
> > option, it's probably because you're running an older version of
> > Kaleidoscope.
>
> > Drop us a line if you can't get it to work,
> > - Dirk
>
> > the Versions team
>
> > On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
>
> > > I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.
>
> > > I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
> > > Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
> > > "svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.
>
> > > It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
> > > command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
> > > all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
> > > very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
> > > and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Ben

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Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Jorde Vorstenbosch]

Rectification, I do see the button now that I changed the diff tool to 
kaleidoscope in the versions preferences. Maybe this should be a question when 
versions detects that kaleidoscope has been installed?

Jorde

On 19 jan. 2011, at 13:58, Jorde Vorstenbosch  
wrote:

> I can verify that it is the same for me, both kaleidoscope and versions 
> installed running the latest version of both, no compare buttons anywhere.
> 
> Jorde
> 
> On 19 jan. 2011, at 13:22, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Dirk, sorry to post a duplicate request. Perhaps it's worth
>> adding your answer to the FAQs on the Versions site?
>> 
>> I don't see the compare all button unfortunately. I'm running
>> Kaleidoscope 1.1.1 and Versions 1.1.3 on OS X 10.6.6. I'm fairly sure
>> I installed Kaleidoscope before I installed Versions.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 11:42 am, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
>>> Hi Ben,
>>> 
>>> Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while
>>> ago.
>>> 
>>> If all's well, you should see a "Compare All" button on the right hand
>>> side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this
>>> option, it's probably because you're running an older version of
>>> Kaleidoscope.
>>> 
>>> Drop us a line if you can't get it to work,
>>> - Dirk
>>> 
>>> the Versions team
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.
>>> 
 I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
 Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
 "svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.
>>> 
 It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
 command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
 all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
 very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
 and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.
>>> 
 Thanks,
>>> 
 Ben
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Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Jorde Vorstenbosch]

I can verify that it is the same for me, both kaleidoscope and versions 
installed running the latest version of both, no compare buttons anywhere.

Jorde

On 19 jan. 2011, at 13:22, Ben Godfrey  wrote:

> Thanks Dirk, sorry to post a duplicate request. Perhaps it's worth
> adding your answer to the FAQs on the Versions site?
> 
> I don't see the compare all button unfortunately. I'm running
> Kaleidoscope 1.1.1 and Versions 1.1.3 on OS X 10.6.6. I'm fairly sure
> I installed Kaleidoscope before I installed Versions.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 11:42 am, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
>> Hi Ben,
>> 
>> Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while
>> ago.
>> 
>> If all's well, you should see a "Compare All" button on the right hand
>> side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this
>> option, it's probably because you're running an older version of
>> Kaleidoscope.
>> 
>> Drop us a line if you can't get it to work,
>> - Dirk
>> 
>> the Versions team
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.
>> 
>>> I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
>>> Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
>>> "svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.
>> 
>>> It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
>>> command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
>>> all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
>>> very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
>>> and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>> 
>>> Ben
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Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Ben Godfrey]

Thanks Dirk, sorry to post a duplicate request. Perhaps it's worth
adding your answer to the FAQs on the Versions site?

I don't see the compare all button unfortunately. I'm running
Kaleidoscope 1.1.1 and Versions 1.1.3 on OS X 10.6.6. I'm fairly sure
I installed Kaleidoscope before I installed Versions.

Ben


On Jan 19, 11:42 am, Dirk Stoop  wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while
> ago.
>
> If all's well, you should see a "Compare All" button on the right hand
> side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this
> option, it's probably because you're running an older version of
> Kaleidoscope.
>
> Drop us a line if you can't get it to work,
> - Dirk
>
> the Versions team
>
> On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.
>
> > I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
> > Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
> > "svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.
>
> > It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
> > command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
> > all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
> > very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
> > and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Ben

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Re: Any plans for Mac App Store?

[Jorde Vorstenbosch]

It doesn't ask you to buy it again, it says it's installed if that's the case. 
I see the apps I already have as such event though I got them before the mac 
store was introduced.

Jorde

On 19 jan. 2011, at 03:32, Lorin Rivers  wrote:

> Hey it can ask all it wants, but until you purchase a second copy, that's all 
> that's going to happen.
> 
> On Jan 11, 2011, at 11:54 , Geoffrey Simms wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to buy Versions ASAP, but I know that if I buy it outside the
>> Mac App Store, I'll be asked to buy it again if it shows up there
>> eventually. Do you have plans to sell Versions through the App Store?
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Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Dirk Stoop]

Hi Ben,

Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while
ago.

If all's well, you should see a "Compare All" button on the right hand
side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this
option, it's probably because you're running an older version of
Kaleidoscope.

Drop us a line if you can't get it to work,
- Dirk

the Versions team

On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey  wrote:
> I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.
>
> I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
> Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
> "svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.
>
> It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
> command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
> all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
> very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
> and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben

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Diff multiple files, diff whole revision

[Ben Godfrey]

I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools.

I use "svn diff" to show a diff for all files in the repo in
Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like
"svn diff -r 99:100" to display all the changes made in that commit.

It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the
command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing
all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be
very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser
and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff.

Thanks,

Ben

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