[VFB] Whiting Farms... problems??
Here's a post from a Swedish fly-fishing forum (regarding a chickabou issue). It was written inside quotation marks from the start, so it seems like someone else has said it before him: Saddle hackles is a real problem right now. Last year Whiting, who is the largest and almost the only source, got bugs among their animals and had to kill off the majority of it and start over... which lead to that some products disappeared from their stock (chickabou among them). Some times you can find saddles when they have killed some test animals, but aside of that you're stuffed. Maybe not 100% quality translation, but well good enough to say the same thing as the Swedish one did. However, a lot of stuff said there tend to be exaggerated a little bit and since the quote was in Swedish, it might even have grown on its way over here to begin with. So, guys over there, who are closer to the actual source... have you heard anything about this? /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Fishing this evening.
Tony, Do you have a photo or pattern for this Peacock Bronze fly? I Googled it but couldn't find a pattern like you were fishing. DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Cc: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: [VFB] Fishing this evening. It was drizzly and overcast most of the day and the dam was releasing a lot of water. I had Cardiac Rehab this morning and it would like a wasted day. I decided to get started on building another canoe, started to get things together and set up the forms. It was cool but started to warm up. Thunder storms were predicted for afternoon. I worked till about 4:20 when I noticed the sun had come out and the sky cleared. I also noticed the river was down to about 2 units and there were several rises. I decided to go down to the dock and have a look, yes I did take my rod.I had a sz 16 Peacock and Bronze fly tied on from the other day so I started out with it. There were a few gray Caddis flying and trout were taking them. I started out making a few casts down and across and started getting hits on about the third cast. I rolled a couple of trout and missed a few. Then I finally hooked up. I found if I worked the fly up stream a bit, they would smash the fly. I started getting hookups. Most were browns ranging in size from 10 to 14. Then I got a real good fish on. I did not see it as it was fighting deep. I guess it was a brown. Trying to work it up to the dock against the current, it broke off. I had one more Peacock and bronze but it was a sz14. It also looked like the water was starting to come up some. Got rigged up again but it seemed that they did not want the sz 14 as well as the sz 16.. Maybe it was the change in the water. I finally did catch a few trout on the 14 but decided to change flies. I tied on a what I call a Prism Scud. It is nothing more than some Pearl Prism Dubbing with a black thread head on a sz 16 scud hook. I guess it must of looked like the Gray Caddis . I got a number of hits and missed most of the first ones. The current was making it hard to feel the hit. I finally let the fly drift to the end of the line and just worked the fly up current and let it drift back. I could see the boil on the fly but still missed a number of fish. I heard several splashes on the other side of my dock along the bank. I was about ready to go to the house, my wife was getting dinner ready but decided to make a couple of casts before going in. I don't normally fish that side because of the tie down cables that come from the bank to the dock. It would be hard to maneuver a fish without getting in the cables. I just flipped the fly out to the bank and had a hook up. It was a good fish I knew right off. Getting on my hands and knees I was able to grab the line and lead the trout to the net after several jumps. It was a Rainbow in the 15 class. Released it and saw another swirl. Cast to it and a hook up. The same thing this time landing the trout. It was a Brown in the same class as the Rainbow.. Made a couple more casts and had a miss. I decided to make the last cast and it was the best fish of the evening. Another Brown in the 16+ inch class as fat as a pig. This is not my type of fishing as I prefer to wade but I have to take what comes along when it comes. If it will stop raining so the lakes will go down, they might shut the dam down for a while. When all 8 units are running, the river will rise 12' at my house. Even with one unit running, it is still real tricky to wade. Needless to say I had a good hour and about 20 minuets on the dock with landing about a dozen trout and missing at least that many.It is not often I get action like this. Arkansas Tony -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.5/2083 - Release Date: 4/27/09 6:00 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I will be off net until Friday night, SO please send no attachments. Off to San francisco in an hour For my VA appt with the liver specialist. Will learn if I am treatable or not. If so, Here goes being sick for a few weeks. If not...on the liver transplant pgm if I am lucky. God is with me, This I know!!!- see ya! Keep fishin and tyin!! God Bless Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Good luck. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:52 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] I will be off net until Friday night, SO please send no attachments. Off to San francisco in an hour For my VA appt with the liver specialist. Will learn if I am treatable or not. If so, Here goes being sick for a few weeks. If not...on the liver transplant pgm if I am lucky. God is with me, This I know!!!- see ya! Keep fishin and tyin!! God Bless Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood i'mEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Fishing this evening.
Don, It is something I came up with about 12 years ago. I just got back on it as I wanted to tie something real simple at the Sowbug. I am still not 100%. I tie them on a sz 10 to 16 scudd hook. I gave one to a fellow from Lousianna at the show. Got a call from him two days ago and he ordered a couple of dozen. Said it was the best fly he ever used on Bluegills. I will be tying them at the Oklahoma show this weekend. Hook: Scud 10-16 Thread: Black 8/0-10/0 Weight: If desired, I tie them with and without, Will try a bead head version. The sz 16 I was using was not weighted. The sz 14 was. Tail: 4 strands of Peacock Herl Body, Copper Tinsel Chenille (Chili Pepper Chenille sz small) Shellback. Peacock Herl. Head: Black thread Antenna: Two strands of Peacick Herl cur short. Wrap hook, add weight if desired.. Tie in four strands of Peacock herl behind the eye, leaving the ends beyind the hook bend, Fold the herl back over itself and wrap the thread back over the herl to the hook bend and just a bit beyond. Tie in the chenille and wrap fwd over the Herl. Tie off at the hook eye forming a small head. There will be four strands of herl sticking out beyond the hook eye. Clip off two of them at the head wrap. Clip off the other two leaving a short length for the antennas. Clip the four strands at the tail so they are a bit shorter than the hook shank. It is about a 60 second fly to tie once you have all the materials laid out. You can reinforce the Herl Shell back by tying in a length of black thread before tying in the Chenille. Let the thread hang and wrap the body. Before bringing the herl over the Chenille for the Shell back twist the thread and herl together, then tie it off behind the hook eye and form the head. Hope I am not stepping out of line attaching a photo. Tony --- On Wed, 4/29/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:41 AM Tony, Do you have a photo or pattern for this Peacock Bronze fly? I Googled it but couldn't find a pattern like you were fishing. DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Cc: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: [VFB] Fishing this evening. It was drizzly and overcast most of the day and the dam was releasing a lot of water. I had Cardiac Rehab this morning and it would like a wasted day. I decided to get started on building another canoe, started to get things together and set up the forms. It was cool but started to warm up. Thunder storms were predicted for afternoon. I worked till about 4:20 when I noticed the sun had come out and the sky cleared. I also noticed the river was down to about 2 units and there were several rises. I decided to go down to the dock and have a look, yes I did take my rod.I had a sz 16 Peacock and Bronze fly tied on from the other day so I started out with it. There were a few gray Caddis flying and trout were taking them. I started out making a few casts down and across and started getting hits on about the third cast. I rolled a couple of trout and missed a few. Then I finally hooked up. I found if I worked the fly up stream a bit, they would smash the fly. I started getting hookups. Most were browns ranging in size from 10 to 14. Then I got a real good fish on. I did not see it as it was fighting deep. I guess it was a brown. Trying to work it up to the dock against the current, it broke off. I had one more Peacock and bronze but it was a sz14. It also looked like the water was starting to come up some. Got rigged up again but it seemed that they did not want the sz 14 as well as the sz 16.. Maybe it was the change in the water. I finally did catch a few trout on the 14 but decided to change flies. I tied on a what I call a Prism Scud. It is nothing more than some Pearl Prism Dubbing with a black thread head on a sz 16 scud hook. I guess it must of looked like the Gray Caddis . I got a number of hits and missed most of the first ones. The current was making it hard to feel the hit. I finally let the fly drift to the end of the line and just worked the fly up current and let it drift back. I could see the boil on the fly but still missed a number of fish. I heard several splashes on the other side of my dock along the bank. I was about ready to go to the house, my wife was getting dinner ready but decided to make a couple of casts before going in. I don't normally fish that side because of the tie down cables that come from the bank to the
[VFB] Re: Fishing this evening.
I did forget something. The head is Fire Orange, Not black. I use black thread to tie the fly but use Fire Orange for the head. The whole fly can be tied with Fire Orange thread. Tony --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:45 PM Don, It is something I came up with about 12 years ago. I just got back on it as I wanted to tie something real simple at the Sowbug. I am still not 100%. I tie them on a sz 10 to 16 scudd hook. I gave one to a fellow from Lousianna at the show. Got a call from him two days ago and he ordered a couple of dozen. Said it was the best fly he ever used on Bluegills. I will be tying them at the Oklahoma show this weekend. Hook: Scud 10-16 Thread: Black 8/0-10/0 Weight: If desired, I tie them with and without, Will try a bead head version. The sz 16 I was using was not weighted. The sz 14 was. Tail: 4 strands of Peacock Herl Body, Copper Tinsel Chenille (Chili Pepper Chenille sz small) Shellback. Peacock Herl. Head: Black thread Antenna: Two strands of Peacick Herl cur short. Wrap hook, add weight if desired.. Tie in four strands of Peacock herl behind the eye, leaving the ends beyind the hook bend, Fold the herl back over itself and wrap the thread back over the herl to the hook bend and just a bit beyond. Tie in the chenille and wrap fwd over the Herl. Tie off at the hook eye forming a small head. There will be four strands of herl sticking out beyond the hook eye. Clip off two of them at the head wrap. Clip off the other two leaving a short length for the antennas. Clip the four strands at the tail so they are a bit shorter than the hook shank. It is about a 60 second fly to tie once you have all the materials laid out. You can reinforce the Herl Shell back by tying in a length of black thread before tying in the Chenille. Let the thread hang and wrap the body. Before bringing the herl over the Chenille for the Shell back twist the thread and herl together, then tie it off behind the hook eye and form the head. Hope I am not stepping out of line attaching a photo. Tony --- On Wed, 4/29/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:41 AM Tony, Do you have a photo or pattern for this Peacock Bronze fly? I Googled it but couldn't find a pattern like you were fishing. DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Cc: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: [VFB] Fishing this evening. It was drizzly and overcast most of the day and the dam was releasing a lot of water. I had Cardiac Rehab this morning and it would like a wasted day. I decided to get started on building another canoe, started to get things together and set up the forms. It was cool but started to warm up. Thunder storms were predicted for afternoon. I worked till about 4:20 when I noticed the sun had come out and the sky cleared. I also noticed the river was down to about 2 units and there were several rises. I decided to go down to the dock and have a look, yes I did take my rod.I had a sz 16 Peacock and Bronze fly tied on from the other day so I started out with it. There were a few gray Caddis flying and trout were taking them. I started out making a few casts down and across and started getting hits on about the third cast. I rolled a couple of trout and missed a few. Then I finally hooked up. I found if I worked the fly up stream a bit, they would smash the fly. I started getting hookups. Most were browns ranging in size from 10 to 14. Then I got a real good fish on. I did not see it as it was fighting deep. I guess it was a brown. Trying to work it up to the dock against the current, it broke off. I had one more Peacock and bronze but it was a sz14. It also looked like the water was starting to come up some. Got rigged up again but it seemed that they did not want the sz 14 as well as the sz 16.. Maybe it was the change in the water. I finally did catch a few trout on the 14 but decided to change flies. I tied on a what I call a Prism Scud. It is nothing more than some Pearl Prism Dubbing with a black thread head on a sz 16 scud hook. I guess it must of looked like the Gray Caddis . I got a number of hits and missed most of the first ones. The current was making it hard to feel the hit. I finally let the fly drift to the end of the line and just worked the fly up current and let it drift back. I
[VFB] Re: Whiting Farms... no bug problem
MeddelandeNick, I asked Dr Tom about this and he told me that there is absolutely no truth to this story and that he has no idea how it could have started. There have been some product shortages this season, mostly dry fly capes and saddles in the Whiting (Hoffman) and Hebert/Miner lines. Their production numbers have been increased, so that should be solved next season. There has also been an unbelievable increase in demand for Spey rooster capes. Their production numbers will also be raised for 2010 but this year's demand cannot be met at the moment. So, if the topic is still alive on the other forum it would be fair to give the members the correct information. Do you have alink to that forum? Thanks. Mart - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Whiting Farms... problems?? Here's a post from a Swedish fly-fishing forum (regarding a chickabou issue). It was written inside quotation marks from the start, so it seems like someone else has said it before him: Saddle hackles is a real problem right now. Last year Whiting, who is the largest and almost the only source, got bugs among their animals and had to kill off the majority of it and start over... which lead to that some products disappeared from their stock (chickabou among them). Some times you can find saddles when they have killed some test animals, but aside of that you're stuffed. Maybe not 100% quality translation, but well good enough to say the same thing as the Swedish one did. However, a lot of stuff said there tend to be exaggerated a little bit and since the quote was in Swedish, it might even have grown on its way over here to begin with. So, guys over there, who are closer to the actual source... have you heard anything about this? /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Fishing this evening.
Sounds like a nifty fishy pattern, but the photo didn't come through. DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. I did forget something. The head is Fire Orange, Not black. I use black thread to tie the fly but use Fire Orange for the head. The whole fly can be tied with Fire Orange thread. Tony --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:45 PM Don, It is something I came up with about 12 years ago. I just got back on it as I wanted to tie something real simple at the Sowbug. I am still not 100%. I tie them on a sz 10 to 16 scudd hook. I gave one to a fellow from Lousianna at the show. Got a call from him two days ago and he ordered a couple of dozen. Said it was the best fly he ever used on Bluegills. I will be tying them at the Oklahoma show this weekend. Hook: Scud 10-16 Thread: Black 8/0-10/0 Weight: If desired, I tie them with and without, Will try a bead head version. The sz 16 I was using was not weighted. The sz 14 was. Tail: 4 strands of Peacock Herl Body, Copper Tinsel Chenille (Chili Pepper Chenille sz small) Shellback. Peacock Herl. Head: Black thread Antenna: Two strands of Peacick Herl cur short. Wrap hook, add weight if desired.. Tie in four strands of Peacock herl behind the eye, leaving the ends beyind the hook bend, Fold the herl back over itself and wrap the thread back over the herl to the hook bend and just a bit beyond. Tie in the chenille and wrap fwd over the Herl. Tie off at the hook eye forming a small head. There will be four strands of herl sticking out beyond the hook eye. Clip off two of them at the head wrap. Clip off the other two leaving a short length for the antennas. Clip the four strands at the tail so they are a bit shorter than the hook shank. It is about a 60 second fly to tie once you have all the materials laid out. You can reinforce the Herl Shell back by tying in a length of black thread before tying in the Chenille. Let the thread hang and wrap the body. Before bringing the herl over the Chenille for the Shell back twist the thread and herl together, then tie it off behind the hook eye and form the head. Hope I am not stepping out of line attaching a photo. Tony --- On Wed, 4/29/09, DonO f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: DonO f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing this evening. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:41 AM Tony, Do you have a photo or pattern for this Peacock Bronze fly? I Googled it but couldn't find a pattern like you were fishing. DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Cc: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: [VFB] Fishing this evening. It was drizzly and overcast most of the day and the dam was releasing a lot of water. I had Cardiac Rehab this morning and it would like a wasted day. I decided to get started on building another canoe, started to get things together and set up the forms. It was cool but started to warm up. Thunder storms were predicted for afternoon. I worked till about 4:20 when I noticed the sun had come out and the sky cleared. I also noticed the river was down to about 2 units and there were several rises. I decided to go down to the dock and have a look, yes I did take my rod.I had a sz 16 Peacock and Bronze fly tied on from the other day so I started out with it. There were a few gray Caddis flying and trout were taking them. I started out making a few casts down and across and started getting hits on about the third cast. I rolled a couple of trout and missed a few. Then I finally hooked up. I found if I worked the fly up stream a bit, they would smash the fly. I started getting hookups. Most were browns ranging in size from 10 to 14. Then I got a real good fish on. I did not see it as it was fighting deep. I guess it was a brown. Trying to work it up to the dock against the current, it broke off. I had one more Peacock and bronze but it was a sz14. It also looked like the water was starting to come up some. Got rigged up
[VFB] Re: Fishing Today
Hi jim good luck at your appointment got your fly to day nice looking one at that got some yellow and white for you if you want it let me know good luck and god speed you'll be back in a short time Take care dave From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: April 27, 2009 4:12 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Today Thanks Joe and you take care also. The wind is making the Chill Factor seem like 40 degrees now. Started a fire in the pellet stove for some heat. Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood i'mEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me _ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:32:31 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Today From: jfusc...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Jim - My thoughts and prayers will be with you. Hope you find that there is light at the end of the tunnel. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com jfusc...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: Nope - RAIN http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_angry.gif WIND!!! http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/heart_broken.gif Wednesday I head to San Francisco VA Medical Center to see the Experts on HEPC and for them to evaluate if I can undergo the therapy that has a 25% chance of success or that my disease has progressed to far and I need to get my affairs in order. Darn, I NEED to go fishing. I will take a couple rods and fish on the way back. I go past Donner Lake, Truckee River, Sacramento River, The BAY; so may have some luck. I will be back Friday evening. Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood i'mEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me /html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
