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RE: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version

2009-12-09 Thread J Balmer

Not that cold here, but it was windy enough to blow over the steel moose in
the front yard & I was getting blown around in the Jeep.

-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Don Ordes
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:28 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version

My wife informed me at dinner that it got down to -29°F last night.

DonO

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Ordes" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version


Rene,

No correction needed.   Absolute zero and the wind would STILL be blowing in
Wyoming  :o)

DonO

- Original Message - 
From: "Rene Zillmann" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version


Don,
nice adoption, one correction. At -273 Celsius (0 Kelvin) all motion
stops. So,... no wind in Wyoming anymore. Maybe no casting? Otherwise
the temperature might rise.
Rene


Don Ordes wrote:
> Gotta make this VFB acceptable and fishing related...
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Taylor, Lance 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:42 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Cold Enough For You?
>
> /Don, I look forward to receiving your DVD... oh yeah... on a
> related weather note.../
>
>
>
> *THE OFFICIAL CANADIAN (or WYOMING) TEMPERATURE CONVERSION CHART-
> FLYFISHING VERSION*
>
>
>
> 50° Fahrenheit (10° C)
>
> Californians shiver uncontrollably, can't cast or tie on flies.
>
> Canadians fish the morning and evening dry-fly hatches.
> (Wyominites too, and mice at midnight)
>
>
>
> 35° Fahrenheit (1.6° C)
>
> Southern Flyreels get sticky, drags don't work
>
> Canadians start fishing in long-sleeve shirts   (Wyominites are
> just glad the mosqutoes quit biting.)
>
>
>
> 32° Fahrenheit (0 ° C)
>
> American water freezes(Low altitude water freezes)
>
> Canadian water just gets thicker- use streamers. (Wyoming
> 70mph wind keeps iced-up water flowing- use weighted nymphs)
>
>
>
> -0° Fahrenheit (-17.9° C)
>
> New York City landlords finally turn on the heat.
>
> Canadians have their last fish-fry of the season.  (Wyominites
> still campin' out, cooking fish over fires)
>
>
>
> -60° Fahrenheit (-51° C)
>
> Mt. St. Helens freezes.
>
> Canadians grease their flylines and guides.  (Wyominites do same,
> look for less windy stretches of the rivers)
>
>
>
> -100° Fahrenheit (-73° C)
>
> Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
>
> Canadians pull down their earflaps while fishing.
> (Wyominites swap cowboy hats for ball caps with ear flaps)
>
>
>
> -173° Fahrenheit (-114° C)
>
> Ethyl alcohol freezes.
>
> Canadians get frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.  (Wyos.
> just keep flasks of the good stuff in their inner vest pockets =
> antifreeze)
>
>
>
> -460° Fahrenheit (-273° C)
>
> Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops.
>
> Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"  (Wyominites say "It'd still be
> nice if the wind would die down some- hard to cast")
>
>
>
> -500° Fahrenheit (-295° C)
>
> Hell freezes over.
>
> The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup  (Wyominites pause
> fly-fishing, go snowmobiling)  DonO
>
>
>
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Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version

2009-12-09 Thread Don Ordes

My wife informed me at dinner that it got down to -29°F last night.

DonO

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Ordes" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version


Rene,

No correction needed.   Absolute zero and the wind would STILL be blowing in
Wyoming  :o)

DonO

- Original Message - 
From: "Rene Zillmann" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version


Don,
nice adoption, one correction. At -273 Celsius (0 Kelvin) all motion
stops. So,... no wind in Wyoming anymore. Maybe no casting? Otherwise
the temperature might rise.
Rene


Don Ordes wrote:
> Gotta make this VFB acceptable and fishing related...
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Taylor, Lance 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:42 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Cold Enough For You?
>
> /Don, I look forward to receiving your DVD... oh yeah... on a
> related weather note.../
>
>
>
> *THE OFFICIAL CANADIAN (or WYOMING) TEMPERATURE CONVERSION CHART-
> FLYFISHING VERSION*
>
>
>
> 50° Fahrenheit (10° C)
>
> Californians shiver uncontrollably, can't cast or tie on flies.
>
> Canadians fish the morning and evening dry-fly hatches.
> (Wyominites too, and mice at midnight)
>
>
>
> 35° Fahrenheit (1.6° C)
>
> Southern Flyreels get sticky, drags don't work
>
> Canadians start fishing in long-sleeve shirts   (Wyominites are
> just glad the mosqutoes quit biting.)
>
>
>
> 32° Fahrenheit (0 ° C)
>
> American water freezes(Low altitude water freezes)
>
> Canadian water just gets thicker- use streamers. (Wyoming
> 70mph wind keeps iced-up water flowing- use weighted nymphs)
>
>
>
> -0° Fahrenheit (-17.9° C)
>
> New York City landlords finally turn on the heat.
>
> Canadians have their last fish-fry of the season.  (Wyominites
> still campin' out, cooking fish over fires)
>
>
>
> -60° Fahrenheit (-51° C)
>
> Mt. St. Helens freezes.
>
> Canadians grease their flylines and guides.  (Wyominites do same,
> look for less windy stretches of the rivers)
>
>
>
> -100° Fahrenheit (-73° C)
>
> Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
>
> Canadians pull down their earflaps while fishing.
> (Wyominites swap cowboy hats for ball caps with ear flaps)
>
>
>
> -173° Fahrenheit (-114° C)
>
> Ethyl alcohol freezes.
>
> Canadians get frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.  (Wyos.
> just keep flasks of the good stuff in their inner vest pockets =
> antifreeze)
>
>
>
> -460° Fahrenheit (-273° C)
>
> Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops.
>
> Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"  (Wyominites say "It'd still be
> nice if the wind would die down some- hard to cast")
>
>
>
> -500° Fahrenheit (-295° C)
>
> Hell freezes over.
>
> The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup  (Wyominites pause
> fly-fishing, go snowmobiling)  DonO
>
>
>
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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Anthony Spezio

Thanks Nick.
Tony

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Niclas Runarsson  wrote:

From: Niclas Runarsson 
Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:10 PM



 
Meddelande

Tony,
 
I made 
it as a picture file, so I could show my friends at the Swedish 
forum.
Here 
it is, so you don't have to bother with the Adobe file 
anymore.
 
/Nick

  
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  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För 
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Skickat: den 10 december 2009 
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Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Ämne: Re: [VFB] FW: 
  Advice


  


  Thanks Thomas,
 I have Adobe Reader installed. It 
just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't read the 
attachment.
Tony

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Thomas R. Eckert 
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From: 
  Thomas R. Eckert 
Subject: Re: 
  [VFB] FW: Advice
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 
  December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM


  you will need the "adobe reader" to open 
  
Thomas

Anthony Spezio schrieb:
> Will not open 
  for me.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, iain short 
  //* 
  wrote:
>
>
>     From: iain 
  short 
>  
     Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice
>  
     To: "VFB-new" 
>  
     Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 
  PM
>
>     see 
  attached
>
>      
>
>  
     I couldn't stop 
  laughing...J
>
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>
>
>  
     

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RE: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP STILL IMPORTANT

2009-12-09 Thread David Masson

Hi Iain

All for reuven getting a set of flies for sure. if everybody want to wait
that ok with mealso

Thanks dave

 

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Of iain short
Sent: December 9, 2009 3:41 PM
To: VFB-new
Subject: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP STILL IMPORTANT

 

BTW
Reuven is still getting a set, I aint worried about paying the postage.
Ive had too much stolen by the post office to worry about not getting a set
of flies, 
it just a shame that we didnt make a full set.

iain




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Re: [VFB] Catskill Dry Swap Reminder

2009-12-09 Thread Curtis Watts

Peggy

I am going to be sending out my flies this weekend, but on other swaps I
have seen something called a toe tag. What is this and do I need to put this
on each fly I am sending?

Curt Watts


On 10/29/09 5:38 AM, "Peggy Brenner"  wrote:

> I have a total of 12 so instead of making a second group let's just go for a
> nice dozen flies.
>  
> And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill Dry
> Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till December .  And to
> keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small dries, 16 and under,
> all levels of tyers.
> 1 Peggy B  Condor
> 2 Neville Gosling
> 3 George Vincent
> 4 Michael Bliss
> 5 Robert Laubengayer
> 6 Hans Weilenmann
> 7 Dan Gober
> 8 Alan Di Somma
> 9 Mark Romero
> 10 Curtiss Watts
> 11 Martin Westbeek
> 
> 12 Jim Hodson
> 
> This is the final list, Flies due December 31: Mail to Peggy Brenner,
> 
> 266 N River Rd, Milford, NH 03055  and include a return envelope and postage. 
> Many thanks for taking part.
>  
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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Anthony Spezio

Thanks Thomas,
 I have Adobe Reader installed. It just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't 
read the attachment.
Tony

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Thomas R. Eckert  wrote:

From: Thomas R. Eckert 
Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM

you will need the "adobe reader" to open 
Thomas

Anthony Spezio schrieb:
> Will not open for me.
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> --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, iain short //* wrote:
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>     Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice
>     To: "VFB-new" 
>     Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 PM
>
>     see attached
>
>      
>
>     I couldn't stop laughing...J
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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Thomas R. Eckert

you will need the "adobe reader" to open 
Thomas

Anthony Spezio schrieb:
> Will not open for me.
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> --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, iain short //* wrote:
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> From: iain short 
> Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice
> To: "VFB-new" 
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 PM
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> see attached
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> I couldn't stop laughing...J
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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Anthony Spezio

Will not open for me.
Tony

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, iain short  wrote:

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Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice
To: "VFB-new" 
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 PM




see attached


 



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RE: [VFB] Rivers I have fly fished.....

2009-12-09 Thread Jerry Goldsmith

You can add the following:

 

Florida-

 

My home waters:  great bream and bass fishing

St John’s  (aka Don Ordes’ swimming pool) (Alan DiSomma has shad fished
here)

Wekiva

Econlockhatchee River (Econ River for short)  -

 

Other Florida Rivers.

 

Halifax

Apalachicola River

Withlacoochee

St Mary’s

Ocklawaha River

Hillsborough River

Suwannee River   (How I love thee, How I love thee- Foster changed the
syllables to fit if tune)

Santa Fe River

  Homosassa River

  Weeki Wachee River

 

probably a few I am leaving out. 

 

I could easily add the “salt Water Rivers”  i.e. The entire Indian River
estuary.

I will leave the Georgia and North Carolina rivers to other listers.

 

Could also add some in California, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana,
Washington, Texas, Louisiana, Alaska, all 6 New England states.

Finally rivers in Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Belize. 

 

Hmmm !!  Amazing where 60 years of fishing will take you.

 

Jimmy- Are you going to publish the list when you are done collecting names
?

 

JG

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:18 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rivers I have fly fished.

 

I'll add the Tallapoosa to the list.

chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote:



I have fly fished the Tallapoosa river here. Caught only small bluegills,
but what the hey. Chuck

 

 

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RE: [VFB] reels

2009-12-09 Thread Jerry Goldsmith

I agree with Don.  (Uh Oh. I must be off my meds)  Cabela's or Bass Pro are
very tough to beat for

the money.  My personal favorite on-line source for rods and reels is Temple
Fork. Great products, great service

super competitive on pricing.

 

JG

 

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Subject: RE: [VFB] reels

 

Yeah, I like the Lamsons, been using Orvis mostly. Haven't fished salt yet,
but I'm sure I will eventually.

 

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[mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:57 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] reels

 

Since you're not going to depend on the reel to take a beating and keep on
reeling, I'd say take a look at Cabelas.

They should carry a 7wt and you can probably get one for under $150, maybe
less.

 

I wouldn't take one of these to the salt, and I doubt that's where you're
taking it, since you don't play the fish on the reel.

 

That's my 2 cents, anyway.  I have a Lamson on my 7/8 wt and I've landed 30
pound dorado with it.  Drag worked flawlessly.

 

DonO

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From: J Balmer   

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: RE: [VFB] reels

 

The wacky Italian broad wants the info to buy me a Christmas present, not
sure whyJ I wouldn't mind a large arbor, but don't know that I need one
since I rarely have a fish on the spool, so the drag is also somewhat moot.
I'd like 150 yds on the spool w/ 7wt line. I fish right handed, retrieve w/
the left & I'd like spare spool capability. I spend more on the rod than on
the reel, & my reels are typically fairly basic & can take a beating. This
is an opportunity for me to upgrade w/out her spending too much. Plus, I
don't need her to know how much stuff actually costs, so if she spends $250
+/- $50, she'll know why I value the equipment w/out knowing how much I
actually spend.

 

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[mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] reels

 

Need more details for what you need in the reel.  

- Arbor, drag, spare spool capability, R/L hand swap, backing capacity, etc.

 

Don

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From: J Balmer   

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM

Subject: [VFB] reels

 

Suggestions for a 7wt reel under $300?

 

J

 

 

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RE: [VFB] Had to share this one.

2009-12-09 Thread Jerry Goldsmith

Congrats !!  Did you just raise the price?  J

 

jg

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:51 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Had to share this one.

 

Guys,

Had to share this- made my day.

This endorsement ranks right there with Tony's, as they are both equally
famous.  All comments are important to me,

but those coming from famous tiers carry a lot of weight.  He's also been
tying forever, so it really boosts my confidence.

For those who don't know Bob, he's an east-coast tier who is world-famous
for his realistic patters, right up there with Blackstone, Whillock, and the
others.

 

 

"Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? 
Rope Dubbing is a well done DVD clearly demonstrating a variety of dubbing
material techniques on the one thing that often gives tyers (and not just
beginning tyers) trouble- the natural fur and synthetic material dubbing of
a fly's body.  Don, a natural on camera, presents his quick and easy methods
in an unpretentious, best friend demonstration that anyone watching should
be able to pick up on their first try.  Especially interesting was the
thicker/thinner corrections he employs to arrive at the desired thickness.
Working a hackle in with the rope dubbing and thereby completing two tasks
at the same time is nothing short of brilliant.  If you only buy one fly
tying DVD this year, and are looking for something new that will make your
tying hours easier, this is the one."   

 

Bob Mead

 

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Re: [VFB] reels

2009-12-09 Thread Thomas R. Eckert

sorry, I did send it from my palm ... in the darkness

Don Ordes schrieb:
> Tom,
> Can I have some of what you're drinkin'?
> Buggs
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Thomas R. Eckert 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>
> Rene, I you vote for a German made Reel - do not frget the
> Vosseler Reels!
>
> _www.pro-flyfishing.com
> _
> exellent craftmanship.
> Thomas
>
> Rene Zillmann schrieb:
>> What about this:
>>
>> 
>> http://www.stenzel-flyfishing.com/sid/eb945d148e6ed96cdbe1a95deb0f5a2c/lang/1/cl/alist/cnid/koh-i-noor
>>
>> you get a reel made in Germany. Machined on NC lathes and mills using
>> bar stock aluminum. The plant is in Pforzheim, where they previously did
>> manufacture jewelry and watches. Stenzel did make musical instruments.
>> the Koh-i-nor has only 5 parts including screws. No drag,  I have one
>> and it is a great and beautiful reel. They have more expensive ones, but
>> my next will be one of theirs.
>>
>> they sell further reels, so look close.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> J Balmer wrote:
>>   
>>> Yeah, I like the Lamsons, been using Orvis mostly. Haven’t fished salt
>>> yet, but I’m sure I will eventually.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:57 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Since you're not going to depend on the reel to take a beating and
>>> keep on reeling, I'd say take a look at Cabelas.
>>>
>>> They should carry a 7wt and you can probably get one for under $150,
>>> maybe less.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I wouldn't take one of these to the salt, and I doubt that's where
>>> you're taking it, since you don't play the fish on the reel.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's my 2 cents, anyway.  I have a Lamson on my 7/8 wt and I've
>>> landed 30 pound dorado with it.  Drag worked flawlessly.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> DonO
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* J Balmer 
>>>
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:48 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> The wacky Italian broad wants the info to buy me a Christmas
>>> present, not sure whyJ I wouldn’t mind a large arbor, but don’t
>>> know that I need one since I rarely have a fish on the spool, so
>>> the drag is also somewhat moot. I’d like 150 yds on the spool w/
>>> 7wt line. I fish right handed, retrieve w/ the left & I’d like
>>> spare spool capability. I spend more on the rod than on the reel,
>>> & my reels are typically fairly basic & can take a beating. This
>>> is an opportunity for me to upgrade w/out her spending too much.
>>> Plus, I don’t need her to know how much stuff actually costs, so
>>> if she spends $250 +/- $50, she’ll know why I value the equipment
>>> w/out knowing how much I actually spend.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Need more details for what you need in the reel. 
>>>
>>> - Arbor, drag, spare spool capability, R/L hand swap, backing
>>> capacity, etc.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* J Balmer 
>>>
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suggestions for a 7wt reel under $300?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [VFB] reels

2009-12-09 Thread Rene Zillmann

Ok Buggs,
very unusual for those in the US, but if you speak English only, try

http://www.pro-flyfishing.com/en.html

@Thomas, you are right, but I do not own one of them, they are located
in Pforzheim as well and probably a Spinnoff of Stenzel? I heard about that.

Rene

Don Ordes wrote:
> Tom,
> Can I have some of what you're drinkin'?
> Buggs
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Thomas R. Eckert 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>
> Rene, I you vote for a German made Reel - do not frget the
> Vosseler Reels!
>
> _www.pro-flyfishing.com
> _
> exellent craftmanship.
> Thomas
>
> Rene Zillmann schrieb:
>> What about this:
>>
>> 
>> http://www.stenzel-flyfishing.com/sid/eb945d148e6ed96cdbe1a95deb0f5a2c/lang/1/cl/alist/cnid/koh-i-noor
>>
>> you get a reel made in Germany. Machined on NC lathes and mills using
>> bar stock aluminum. The plant is in Pforzheim, where they previously did
>> manufacture jewelry and watches. Stenzel did make musical instruments.
>> the Koh-i-nor has only 5 parts including screws. No drag,  I have one
>> and it is a great and beautiful reel. They have more expensive ones, but
>> my next will be one of theirs.
>>
>> they sell further reels, so look close.
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> J Balmer wrote:
>>   
>>> Yeah, I like the Lamsons, been using Orvis mostly. Haven’t fished salt
>>> yet, but I’m sure I will eventually.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:57 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Since you're not going to depend on the reel to take a beating and
>>> keep on reeling, I'd say take a look at Cabelas.
>>>
>>> They should carry a 7wt and you can probably get one for under $150,
>>> maybe less.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I wouldn't take one of these to the salt, and I doubt that's where
>>> you're taking it, since you don't play the fish on the reel.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's my 2 cents, anyway.  I have a Lamson on my 7/8 wt and I've
>>> landed 30 pound dorado with it.  Drag worked flawlessly.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> DonO
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* J Balmer 
>>>
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:48 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> The wacky Italian broad wants the info to buy me a Christmas
>>> present, not sure whyJ I wouldn’t mind a large arbor, but don’t
>>> know that I need one since I rarely have a fish on the spool, so
>>> the drag is also somewhat moot. I’d like 150 yds on the spool w/
>>> 7wt line. I fish right handed, retrieve w/ the left & I’d like
>>> spare spool capability. I spend more on the rod than on the reel,
>>> & my reels are typically fairly basic & can take a beating. This
>>> is an opportunity for me to upgrade w/out her spending too much.
>>> Plus, I don’t need her to know how much stuff actually costs, so
>>> if she spends $250 +/- $50, she’ll know why I value the equipment
>>> w/out knowing how much I actually spend.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Need more details for what you need in the reel. 
>>>
>>> - Arbor, drag, spare spool capability, R/L hand swap, backing
>>> capacity, etc.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> *From:* J Balmer 
>>>
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [VFB] reels
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suggestions for a 7wt reel under $300?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 
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RE: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT

2009-12-09 Thread iain short


Smart ass
do you know how hard it is to get DonO flies ?
iain

> From: f...@tribcsp.com
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT
> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:22:12 -0700
> 
> Or, instead of all of us spending money to send him money to spend money for 
> lost money...
> 
> He could just sell one of the extra flies I sent him and pay for the postage 
> to Reuven.
> 
> DonO
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rene Zillmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT
> 
> 
> > dto
> > We should send Iain some money for the postage
> > Rene
> >
> > ashley strutt wrote:
> >> Another vote from me for Reuven to get a set.
> >>
> >> Ashley
> >>
> >> 2009/12/9 Don Ordes mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>>
> >>
> >> I vote Reuven gets a set anyway for his lost efforts.
> >>
> >> DonO
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> *From:* iain short 
> >> *To:* VFB-new 
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:34 AM
> >> *Subject:* [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT
> >>
> >> Hi Guys
> >>
> >> I guess the last package posted to by Reuven is lost in the
> >> mail forever...
> >> I will sort and return the others ASAP
> >>
> >> (Pity, It would have been nice to have just one swap go
> >> perfectly...)
> >>
> >> iain
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[VFB] WET FLY SWAP STILL IMPORTANT

2009-12-09 Thread iain short


BTW
Reuven is still getting a set, I aint worried about paying the postage.
Ive had too much stolen by the post office to worry about not getting a set of 
flies, 
it just a shame that we didnt make a full set.

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Re: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT

2009-12-09 Thread Don Ordes

Or, instead of all of us spending money to send him money to spend money for 
lost money...

He could just sell one of the extra flies I sent him and pay for the postage 
to Reuven.

DonO


- Original Message - 
From: "Rene Zillmann" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT


> dto
> We should send Iain some money for the postage
> Rene
>
> ashley strutt wrote:
>> Another vote from me for Reuven to get a set.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> 2009/12/9 Don Ordes mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>>
>>
>> I vote Reuven gets a set anyway for his lost efforts.
>>
>> DonO
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* iain short 
>> *To:* VFB-new 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:34 AM
>> *Subject:* [VFB] WET FLY SWAP - IMPORTANT
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I guess the last package posted to by Reuven is lost in the
>> mail forever...
>> I will sort and return the others ASAP
>>
>> (Pity, It would have been nice to have just one swap go
>> perfectly...)
>>
>> iain
>>
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Re: [VFB] reels

2009-12-09 Thread Don Ordes

Tom,
Can I have some of what you're drinkin'?
Buggs
- Original Message -
From: Thomas R. Eckert
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] reels

Rene, I you vote for a German made Reel - do not frget the Vosseler Reels!

www.pro-flyfishing.com

exellent craftmanship.
Thomas

Rene Zillmann schrieb:
What about this:

http://www.stenzel-flyfishing.com/sid/eb945d148e6ed96cdbe1a95deb0f5a2c/lang/1/cl/alist/cnid/koh-i-noor

you get a reel made in Germany. Machined on NC lathes and mills using
bar stock aluminum. The plant is in Pforzheim, where they previously did
manufacture jewelry and watches. Stenzel did make musical instruments.
the Koh-i-nor has only 5 parts including screws. No drag, I have one
and it is a great and beautiful reel. They have more expensive ones, but
my next will be one of theirs.

they sell further reels, so look close.

Rene

J Balmer wrote:
Yeah, I like the Lamsons, been using Orvis mostly. Haven’t fished salt
yet, but I’m sure I will eventually.

*From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:57 PM
*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels

Since you're not going to depend on the reel to take a beating and
keep on reeling, I'd say take a look at Cabelas.

They should carry a 7wt and you can probably get one for under $150,
maybe less.

I wouldn't take one of these to the salt, and I doubt that's where
you're taking it, since you don't play the fish on the reel.

That's my 2 cents, anyway. I have a Lamson on my 7/8 wt and I've
landed 30 pound dorado with it. Drag worked flawlessly.

DonO

- Original Message -

*From:* J Balmer

*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:48 PM

*Subject:* RE: [VFB] reels

The wacky Italian broad wants the info to buy me a Christmas
present, not sure whyJ I wouldn’t mind a large arbor, but don’t
know that I need one since I rarely have a fish on the spool, so
the drag is also somewhat moot. I’d like 150 yds on the spool w/
7wt line. I fish right handed, retrieve w/ the left & I’d like
spare spool capability. I spend more on the rod than on the reel,
& my reels are typically fairly basic & can take a beating. This
is an opportunity for me to upgrade w/out her spending too much.
Plus, I don’t need her to know how much stuff actually costs, so
if she spends $250 +/- $50, she’ll know why I value the equipment
w/out knowing how much I actually spend.

*From:* vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:vfb-mail+ow...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Ordes
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:32 PM
*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [VFB] reels

Need more details for what you need in the reel.

- Arbor, drag, spare spool capability, R/L hand swap, backing
capacity, etc.

Don

- Original Message -

*From:* J Balmer

*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM

*Subject:* [VFB] reels

Suggestions for a 7wt reel under $300?

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Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version

2009-12-09 Thread Don Ordes

Rene,

No correction needed.   Absolute zero and the wind would STILL be blowing in 
Wyoming  :o)

DonO

- Original Message - 
From: "Rene Zillmann" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Cold Enough For You? Flyfishing version & Wyoming Version


Don,
nice adoption, one correction. At -273 Celsius (0 Kelvin) all motion
stops. So,... no wind in Wyoming anymore. Maybe no casting? Otherwise
the temperature might rise.
Rene


Don Ordes wrote:
> Gotta make this VFB acceptable and fishing related...
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Taylor, Lance 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:42 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Cold Enough For You?
>
> /Don, I look forward to receiving your DVD... oh yeah... on a
> related weather note.../
>
>
>
> *THE OFFICIAL CANADIAN (or WYOMING) TEMPERATURE CONVERSION CHART-
> FLYFISHING VERSION*
>
>
>
> 50° Fahrenheit (10° C)
>
> Californians shiver uncontrollably, can't cast or tie on flies.
>
> Canadians fish the morning and evening dry-fly hatches.
> (Wyominites too, and mice at midnight)
>
>
>
> 35° Fahrenheit (1.6° C)
>
> Southern Flyreels get sticky, drags don't work
>
> Canadians start fishing in long-sleeve shirts   (Wyominites are
> just glad the mosqutoes quit biting.)
>
>
>
> 32° Fahrenheit (0 ° C)
>
> American water freezes(Low altitude water freezes)
>
> Canadian water just gets thicker- use streamers. (Wyoming
> 70mph wind keeps iced-up water flowing- use weighted nymphs)
>
>
>
> -0° Fahrenheit (-17.9° C)
>
> New York City landlords finally turn on the heat.
>
> Canadians have their last fish-fry of the season.  (Wyominites
> still campin' out, cooking fish over fires)
>
>
>
> -60° Fahrenheit (-51° C)
>
> Mt. St. Helens freezes.
>
> Canadians grease their flylines and guides.  (Wyominites do same,
> look for less windy stretches of the rivers)
>
>
>
> -100° Fahrenheit (-73° C)
>
> Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
>
> Canadians pull down their earflaps while fishing.
> (Wyominites swap cowboy hats for ball caps with ear flaps)
>
>
>
> -173° Fahrenheit (-114° C)
>
> Ethyl alcohol freezes.
>
> Canadians get frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.  (Wyos.
> just keep flasks of the good stuff in their inner vest pockets =
> antifreeze)
>
>
>
> -460° Fahrenheit (-273° C)
>
> Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops.
>
> Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"  (Wyominites say "It'd still be
> nice if the wind would die down some- hard to cast")
>
>
>
> -500° Fahrenheit (-295° C)
>
> Hell freezes over.
>
> The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup  (Wyominites pause
> fly-fishing, go snowmobiling)  DonO
>
>
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Re: [VFB] reels

2009-12-09 Thread Thomas R. Eckert

Rene, I you vote for a German made Reel - do not frget the Vosseler
Reels!

www.pro-flyfishing.com

exellent craftmanship.
Thomas

Rene Zillmann schrieb:

What about this:

http://www.stenzel-flyfishing.com/sid/eb945d148e6ed96cdbe1a95deb0f5a2c/lang/1/cl/alist/cnid/koh-i-noor

they sell further reels, so look close.

Rene

J Balmer wrote:

Yeah, I like the Lamsons, been using Orvis mostly. Haven’t fished salt
yet, but I’m sure I will eventually.