[VFB] Lines End is still operational
Look at the bottom of this post and any time you send a post to the VFB.and you'll see the URL. http://www.linesend.com haerb...@comcast.net wrote: Is Line's End still in business. Did a web search for it and can't find it. BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Graham Owen Photos
I wonder if bird photographer Byard knows him? Although that gray squirrel tail qualifies for fly tying relevance, check out the second link below. http://www.grahamowengallery.com/photography/hawk-encounter.html http://www.grahamowengallery.com/fishing/more-fly-tying.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping thread is a size D I think. On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote: A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word fine is what throws you off. It's Fine for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of HGH designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === º) === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Size D thread is used on Saltwater Boat rods, it is like Rope Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Henk Verhaar h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl wrote: From: Henk Verhaar h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:39 AM I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping thread is a size D I think. On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote: A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word fine is what throws you off. It's Fine for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of HGH designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel: 035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17 | mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web: www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === º) === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Suppliers
I am looking for suppliers of salmon fly tying materials hooks (blind eye), gut ETC. Anybody have any? BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Suppliers
I have a gut that I'm trying to get rid of. From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of haerb...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:30 AM To: VFB Subject: [VFB] Suppliers I am looking for suppliers of salmon fly tying materials hooks (blind eye), gut ETC. Anybody have any? BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Wes, I have a collections of hundreds of threads of all kinds for tying threads- standard threads, kevlars, spun gels, nylons, flat, wound, braided, waxed, unwaxed, rod-binding, millinery, monos, floss, you name it, from almost microscopic (for #32s) to 50# test Gorilla-braid (for marlin flies). Because threads have more properties than just diameter, I find on many ties that it is easier/better to use multiple threads for different stages of the fly. Like with the rope-dub, I may want to tie with a flat thread, but actually do the rope on wire or mono, then build the thorax with the flat thread that will tie in the legs easily, then swap to a head color to get the final look that I want. Just depends on the fly and materials used. Many times I just want strength, and choosing a thread that has the strength I need and the other properties I want for the tie is a matter of trial and error. One problem is that most of my threads no longer have any designations left on the spool, so I'm just guessing by looking at the properties what the stuff is. I test the strength, look at how it lays down, and then use it if it works. If I'm finishing a head, I look for a flat waxed thread of proper color, as it will build up more neatly. Sometimes I use the light under-belly color and then use markers for the darker over-color. I try to keep threads grouped by kinds, but that doesn't always work. This year, orange seems to be moving in as the most popular color (did well last year)- probably all started by Tony and his Chili-pepper. LOL Orange (flourescent) hares ears, scuds, San Juans, emergers, buggers, streamers, and just about anything in orange or with orange accents. So my orange thread will go on a lot of heads. DonO - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/fly-tying-thread/630607.aspx Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Suppliers
Feathersmc.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:30 AM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: I am looking for suppliers of salmon fly tying materials hooks (blind eye), gut ETC. Anybody have any? BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word fine is what throws you off. It's Fine for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of HGH designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Most of the time these days, I tie w/ three colors; black, olive white. Mostly white. I use Prismcolor markers to get the color I need. W/ the bobbin hanging from the hook, I run the outside of the wide end along the thread to get the color I want. Also good for multiple colors. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of scott bearden Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:59 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips
Hi FlyGuys and FlyGals, We've had three brilliant, springlike days in a row, here in central Oregon. All signs point to an early spring and early bug hatches. Much preferred over last year, when it warmed very late and turned wintery early. It felt like our whole fishing season got compressed to July. Hope weather goes better for you. I need a source for inexpensive, quality pine squirrel strips, preferably on hide. There are roughly 15-19 cut pine squirrel strips per hide. The longest strip might be six inches long, the shortest maybe 4.5. I ordered two half skins from Feathercraft, but the order came to $21.85 including shipping. I can order full skins distributed by Wapsi through the local flyshop, but cost unknown at the moment, and probably a bit pricey. The local Wholesale Sports has some closeout Wapsi stripped full skins, but they are all a dark brown. But at $9.99 a full skin, seems reasonable. That's the price range I have found so far. Does anyone know of a quality source for DYED pine squirrel strips on hide? At a reasonable cost? Linesend.com does carry natural pine squirrel hides at $4.95, but they are not stripped and not dyed. Thanks for any info! Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips
Sorry missed the last part wanting precut and dyed. you message comes in one long string. Gary S. - Original Message - From: The Smiths To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips www.flytyingfurs.com has them for $3.50 each. Gary S. - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips Hi FlyGuys and FlyGals, We've had three brilliant, springlike days in a row, here in central Oregon. All signs point to an early spring and early bug hatches. Much preferred over last year, when it warmed very late and turned wintery early. It felt like our whole fishing season got compressed to July. Hope weather goes better for you. I need a source for inexpensive, quality pine squirrel strips, preferably on hide. There are roughly 15-19 cut pine squirrel strips per hide. The longest strip might be six inches long, the shortest maybe 4.5. I ordered two half skins from Feathercraft, but the order came to $21.85 including shipping. I can order full skins distributed by Wapsi through the local flyshop, but cost unknown at the moment, and probably a bit pricey. The local Wholesale Sports has some closeout Wapsi stripped full skins, but they are all a dark brown. But at $9.99 a full skin, seems reasonable. That's the price range I have found so far. Does anyone know of a quality source for DYED pine squirrel strips on hide? At a reasonable cost? Linesend.com does carry natural pine squirrel hides at $4.95, but they are not stripped and not dyed. Thanks for any info! Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips
God bless Gmail, what will they come up with next! Sorry missed the last part wanting precut and dyed. you message comes in one long string. Gary S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips
Here's a photo of a number of dyed Canadian pine squirrel stripped hides. Don't know if Canadian pine squirrels got the Gold Medal and that's why are so expensive versus U.S. pine squirrels? Wes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comattachment: canadian_pine_squirrel.jpg
