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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

Yeah, but I just call them "COTBH" (Cash on the Barrel head) Ohhh. I'm just 
to funny tonight huh??? Yep,you are Chuck,  but looks ain't everything. 
ROFL, Chuck

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  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
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  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying


Hi Chuck;

Shouldn't this one be called the "PnPBP" Pink n Purple Bass Producer???

Wayneb

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  From: Chuck Alexander 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:10 PM


  Close: Pink Peanut Pimpernal LOL, Chuck

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] What's everybody tying


Peanut Parachute Pimpernel



  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson
  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:50 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying



  'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 



  I mean, what else could it be?  LOL



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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't 
count) what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying 
those is because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies 
now because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today 
as my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing 
a bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck



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Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander


Yep, a roll cast might be hard using your finger. ROFL, Chuck

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels



Yeah, Tony, but without the rod, there'd be no fly fishing.
it's danged sure related. LOL

JIMMY D

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From: Anthony Spezio 
Sent: Jan 6, 2011 7:34 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels

I know it is not tying but the rod messages are coming along pretty good.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels
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Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 5:37 PM

No need to share your suggestions on kick starting
the VFB Ya'll already did it.  LOOKING GOOD  Your
suggestions were all pretty much the same - GIT-ER-DUN

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RE: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Neville Gosling

Tony:

 

No, I have not used dental elastics. I don't know if my dentist would give
me some. My next appointment is not until April. I do have some 1/8 inch
wide masking tape which has become too old and I don't know where to obtain
a fresh supply. I got mine from a rod building supply that is no longer in
business. It was perfect for the purpose.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [VFB] placing guides

 


Nev,
Have you ever used Dental Elastics to hold the guides in place. I also cut 
"0" rings from surgical tube. Makes it easy to move the guides.
Tony

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From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: RE: [VFB] placing guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:41 PM

Hi Rene:

 

Here's what I do. 

 

* Go to the blank maker's website and download their recommended
spacing for your particular rod.

http://www.fishpacbay.com/product-info/guide-spacing.html

 

* Using narrow masking tape, affix the guides per the recommended
spacings;

 

* Put a line (and reel if you have a handle installed) on the rod
and with mild tension on the line check the line spacing and adjust a small
amount as required. 

 

I use typewriter "white out" liquid to mark the guide spacings. These can be
easily removed.

 

Neville ( Nev ) Gosling

 

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Behalf Of Rene Zillmann
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:24 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] placing guides

 

Hi Gang,

as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.

5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black

 

Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used

some tables I got from the web.

But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the

angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side

of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).

Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on

length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody a

link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table

which shows length, weight and action of the rod?

Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the

curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the

guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.

What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?

 

Rene

 

 

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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges

Hi Chuck;
 
Shouldn't this one be called the "PnPBP" Pink n Purple Bass Producer???
 
Wayneb

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Close: Pink Peanut Pimpernal LOL, Chuck
 

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Subject: RE: [VFB] What's everybody tying



Peanut Parachute Pimpernel
 


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Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:50 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying
 

'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

 

I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

 

/Jester

 

 

 

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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count) what 
I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those is 
because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now 
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today as 
my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing a 
bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck

 
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Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels

2011-01-06 Thread rayado

Yeah, Tony, but without the rod, there'd be no fly fishing.
it's danged sure related. LOL

JIMMY D

-Original Message-
>From: Anthony Spezio 
>Sent: Jan 6, 2011 7:34 PM
>To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels
>
>I know it is not tying but the rod messages are coming along pretty good.
>Tony
>
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>From: ray...@earthlink.net 
>Subject: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels
>To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 5:37 PM
>
>No need to share your suggestions on kick starting 
>the VFB Ya'll already did it.  LOOKING GOOD  Your
>suggestions were all pretty much the same - GIT-ER-DUN
>
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RE: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

Nev,
Have you ever used Dental Elastics to hold the guides in place. I also cut 
"0" rings from surgical tube. Makes it easy to move the guides.
Tony

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Neville Gosling  wrote:

From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: RE: [VFB] placing guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:41 PM

Hi Rene: 

Here's what I do.  

·
Go to the blank maker's website and download their
recommended spacing for your particular rod. 

http://www.fishpacbay.com/product-info/guide-spacing.html 

·
Using narrow masking tape, affix the guides per the recommended
spacings; 

·
Put a line (and reel if you have a handle installed) on
the rod and with mild tension on the line check the line spacing and adjust a
small amount as required.  

I use typewriter “white out” liquid to mark the guide
spacings. These can be easily removed. 

Neville ( Nev )
Gosling 

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[mailto: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Rene Zillmann

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:24 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Subject: [VFB] placing guides

Hi Gang, 

as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod. 

5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black 

Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used 

some tables I got from the web. 

But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the 

angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side 

of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure). 

Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on 

length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody
a 

link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table 

which shows length, weight and action of the rod? 

Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure
the 

curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the 

guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above. 

What are you doing to determine the position of the guides? 

Rene 

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Re: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

I know it is not tying but the rod messages are coming along pretty good.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 5:37 PM

No need to share your suggestions on kick starting 
the VFB Ya'll already did it.  LOOKING GOOD  Your
suggestions were all pretty much the same - GIT-ER-DUN

JIMMY D

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Re: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

Rene,
I thnk I still have a chart like you are looking for. As Allan says is what I 
do if for some reason I don't hane a spacing chart handy. I do well with Hook 
and Hackle chart. You can find it on line.
Will send you the chart I was telling about.
Well I was going to attach it here but it is not saved where I thought it was.
Will look in my files for it and send it off list.
Tony

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Allan Fish  wrote:

From: Allan Fish 
Subject: Re: [VFB] placing guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 5:57 PM

Rene,

If you're not satisfied with the manufacturer's suggestion, put the 
guides on with small rubber tubing (dentists use it for braces). 
Then put a reel
 on, run the line through the guides, and put enough 
weight on the line to put a good bend in the rod.

Then you can adjust the position of the guides to suit you.  Take the 
line off, and THEN wrap the guides.

Personally, I've never been dissatisfied with manufacturer's 
recommendations, but then I'm not very picky. ;-)

a.


>Hi Gang,
>as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.
>5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black
>
>Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used
>some tables I got from the web.
>But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the
>angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side
>of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).
>Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on
>length and weight of the  rod,
 but also of the action. Has anybody a
>link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table
>which shows length, weight and action of the rod?
>Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the
>curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the
>guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.
>What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?
>
>Rene
>
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Re: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Michael Bliss

Hah - er excuse me I was just clearing my throat.

Mike

 Personally, I've never been dissatisfied with manufacturer's
> recommendations, but then I'm not very picky. ;-)
>
> a.
>
>
> Hi Gang,
>> as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.
>> 5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black
>>
>> Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used
>> some tables I got from the web.
>> But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the
>> angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side
>> of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).
>> Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on
>> length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody a
>> link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table
>> which shows length, weight and action of the rod?
>> Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the
>> curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the
>> guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.
>> What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?
>>
>> Rene
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Re: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Allan Fish


Rene,

If you're not satisfied with the manufacturer's suggestion, put the 
guides on with small rubber tubing (dentists use it for braces). 
Then put a reel on, run the line through the guides, and put enough 
weight on the line to put a good bend in the rod.


Then you can adjust the position of the guides to suit you.  Take the 
line off, and THEN wrap the guides.


Personally, I've never been dissatisfied with manufacturer's 
recommendations, but then I'm not very picky. ;-)


a.



Hi Gang,
as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.
5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black

Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used
some tables I got from the web.
But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the
angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side
of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).
Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on
length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody a
link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table
which shows length, weight and action of the rod?
Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the
curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the
guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.
What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?

Rene


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[VFB] VFB Kicking up its heels

2011-01-06 Thread rayado

No need to share your suggestions on kick starting 
the VFB Ya'll already did it.  LOOKING GOOD  Your
suggestions were all pretty much the same - GIT-ER-DUN

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Re: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Harmen Boshuis


Rene

try this

http://www.fishpacbay.com/product-info/guide-spacing.html

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RE: [VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Neville Gosling

Hi Rene:

 

Here's what I do. 

 

* Go to the blank maker's website and download their recommended
spacing for your particular rod.

http://www.fishpacbay.com/product-info/guide-spacing.html

 

* Using narrow masking tape, affix the guides per the recommended
spacings;

 

* Put a line (and reel if you have a handle installed) on the rod
and with mild tension on the line check the line spacing and adjust a small
amount as required. 

 

I use typewriter "white out" liquid to mark the guide spacings. These can be
easily removed.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Of Rene Zillmann
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:24 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] placing guides

 

Hi Gang,

as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.

5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black

 

Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used

some tables I got from the web.

But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the

angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side

of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).

Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on

length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody a

link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table

which shows length, weight and action of the rod?

Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the

curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the

guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.

What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?

 

Rene

 

 

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[VFB] placing guides

2011-01-06 Thread Rene Zillmann

Hi Gang,
as you might know, I'm building / assembling my next rod.
5 wt, 9 feet, pacbay blank. single food guides in black

Now I'm determining the position of the guides. On my last rod I used
some tables I got from the web.
But for this rod I want to do it more precise. Base rule is that the
angle between blank and line should be equal on the left and right side
of the guide (When the blank is bend, for sure).
Therefore I assume that the position of the guides not only depends on
length and weight of the  rod, but also of the action. Has anybody a
link, where I can find information about this dependency, maybe a table
which shows length, weight and action of the rod?
Right now I have the idea to bend the blank using some lead, measure the
curve of the rod, do a drawing and than search the positions of the
guides on the paper using the rule mentioned above.
What are you doing to determine the position of the guides?

Rene


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Re: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

I wrapped a number of rods with Single Foot Guides for Global Dorber a few 
years ago. No big problem, they were on Graphite.
Tony

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Neville Gosling  wrote:

From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 10:56 AM

Hi Tony: 

I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo
rod would be sacrilege and esthetically unpleasant!  While I have used
single foot guides, I prefer good quality snakes for all my fly rods.  I
have modern fly rod with single foots and I don’t like the sound as the
line passes through the single foots – they are noisier than
snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because less wraps reduces
the cost.  I used to think snake guides were old fashioned but in fact,
they are quite efficient. 

Neville (Nev) Gosling 

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011
3:54 AM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's
everybody tying?? 

  Wayne ,
  As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan on
  single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I
  stand to be stomped on by single footers.

  Tony

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  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 

  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM 

Hi Tony; 

I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior
to fly rods.  Most of the spinning rods I built used single foot
guides so I guess single foot guides look more "normal"  to
me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and actually using
single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works compared to
more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank
that I plan on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much
the two differ. 

I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes
just for the nostalga aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it
though. 

Wayneb

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wrote: 

From: Anthony Spezio 

Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM 

  It is a personal thing, I just don't like them.
  I guess I was weened on Snake Guides.

  Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap.
  Again we do what we want to do and what pleases us.

  Tony

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  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 

  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM 

Hi Tony; 

 "BLACK SINGLE
FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making " 

Why??? 

Wayneb 

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Re: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

Just a dig.
If you decide to go to snakes I have Gold Snake Guides.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:05 AM

Hi Neville;

I have an 8ft 6wt fly rod with gold single foot guides and don't notice any 
sound at all.  The builder did use pretty large guides though to keep the line 
away from the rod, I think theyr'e sizes 4's and 3's.  I also have another 
custom built rod, a 7ft 11wt rod built for kayak fishing for redfish. It has 
ELEVEN guides, first two double foot rest, single foot and all are recoil 
guides.  I know it sounds like a weird design but it's a real cannon, even with 
a 9wt bas bug taper.  I can't recall it making much noise either.  I don't fish 
it very often because it's a fast graphite rod and I only use it if I'm fishing 
on really windy days, then it excells even with an underweight line.

Wayneb

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From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:56 AM

Hi Tony:

I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo rod would be sacrilege and esthetically 
unpleasant!  While I have used single foot guides, I prefer good quality snakes 
for all my fly rods.  I have modern fly rod with single foots and I don’t like 
the sound as the line passes through the single foots – they are noisier than 
snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because less wraps reduces the 
cost.  I used to think snake guides were old fashioned but in fact, they are 
quite efficient.

Neville (Nev) Gosling

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Anthony Spezio
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:54 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

Wayne , As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan 
on single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I 
stand to be stomped on by single footers.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM

Hi Tony;

I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior to fly rods.  Most of 
the spinning rods I built used single foot guides so I guess single foot guides 
look more "normal"  to me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and actually 
using single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works compared to 
more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank that I plan 
on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much the two differ.

I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes just for the nostalga 
aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it though.

Wayneb

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From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM

It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake 
Guides.
Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again we 
do what we want to do and what pleases us.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM

Hi Tony;

 "BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making "

Why???

Wayneb

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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Articulation

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

Thanks, Chuck

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  Chuck, see this article also about articulated flies:

  http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/articulation.html

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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

MeddelandeIt's actually a Peter Piper Picked a Peck.. wait. That's 4 P's 
LOL, Chuck

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  Pumpernickel Pumpkin Paradun...?
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Subject: RE: [VFB] What's everybody tying


Peanut Parachute Pimpernel

 

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Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:50 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying

 

'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

 

I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

 

/Jester

 

 

 

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Ämne: [VFB] What's everybody tying

  I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't 
count) what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying 
those is because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies 
now because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today 
as my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing 
a bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck

   

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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

MeddelandeClose: Pink Peanut Pimpernal LOL, Chuck

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  Peanut Parachute Pimpernel

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  'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

  I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

  /Jester

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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count) 
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those is 
because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now 
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today as 
my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing a 
bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck

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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes

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  Peanut Parachute Pimpernel

   

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  'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

   

  I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

   

  /Jester

   

   

   

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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count) 
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those is 
because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now 
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today as 
my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing a 
bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck

 

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RE: [VFB] test

2011-01-06 Thread Niclas Runarsson

OK, I won't...
 
 

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testing- do not reply...

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'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 
 
I mean, what else could it be?  LOL
 
/Jester
 
 
 
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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count)
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those
is because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today
as my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are
doing a bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make
their own "small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her
to write a story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000
copies per day and even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured
the section would be on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope.
right there on the front page. Chuck
 



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RE: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread J Balmer

Peanut Parachute Pimpernel

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Niclas Runarsson
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'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

/Jester

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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count)
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those
is because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today
as my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are
doing a bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make
their own "small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her
to write a story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000
copies per day and even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured
the section would be on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope.
right there on the front page. Chuck

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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

Gary: Yeah, that would probably help hold it in place better. Plus, even 
with glue, it (the flattened mono) would give you more glue up area as well, 
Chuck

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Sounds good Chuck.   One extra step I do to help secure the mono is to
flatten the end
with a pair of flat-nosed pliers from my radio building bench.  Probalby
not necessary
with superglue.   But as Tony says:  "Everybody should do what pleases
them."

Gary L Webb  NI9V

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Tom: With 20 pound mono. When I tie these flies, the FIRST think I do is 
to

take a fingernail file and rough up the shank of the leading hook so that
it will grip the glue and the mono better. Then, I cut a piece of 3inch or
so of the 20 pound mono, lay one end down along the shank of that front
hook. I  then tie it down with a base of 3/0 thread I then super glue all
that  to the shank. I remove that hook from the vise, put the second hook
in the vise. Tie the back half of the wooly bugger on that back hook. 
Then,
put the front hook back into the vise. I then pull the mono through the 
eye

of the rear hook, tie that to the shank real well. Then clip the mono off.
Then, superglue that down to the shank. Then, tie the front wooly bugger
onto the front hook as normal, and that's it. Clear as mud??? Chuck

From: Tom Davenport
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Cool!  What did you attach them with?
On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:

  Tom: Last year, I tied "articulated buggers" for a swap, and then, I
  caught quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck

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  For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different
  styles.  First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at
  the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them).  Then I tied
  up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style:  A couple dozen using
  Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but
  different colors, but all using the same basic elements:  plucked
  marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly
  hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar.  I tied
  some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives,
  blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?)  maroon, etc. After
  that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized
  "Canadian Style" mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have
  been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash
  ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like
  a hackled fly as a mohair fly.   It is much thinner than the other
  buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly  or dragon fly
  imitation.   Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing
  than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in
  various sizes and styles.

  Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger
  pattern you would like to tell me about?

  When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual
  suspects:  Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince
  Nymphs in various sizes.  I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using
  PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear
  dressing for everything else.  I don't know if it makes any
  difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks.  I will also be
  tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in
  still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the
  success this year.

  Tom

  On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:

Hi All;

What's everyone tying these days??

I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on
to something for trout.  I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox
squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go.  Anyone
have suggestions to sizes for trout?

Wayneb

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Fw: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Articulation

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes




Chuck, see this article also about articulated flies:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/articulation.html

DonO

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[VFB] test

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes

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  'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 

  I mean, what else could it be?  LOL

  /Jester

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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count) 
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those is 
because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now 
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today as 
my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are doing a 
bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make their own 
"small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her to write a 
story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000 copies per day and 
even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured the section would be 
on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope. right there on the front 
page. Chuck

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Re: [VFB] What's everybody tying????

2011-01-06 Thread Niclas Runarsson

'PPP'... hmm... must be that 'Pheasant Pale Pymph'. 
 
I mean, what else could it be?  LOL
 
/Jester
 
 
 
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I'll give anybody who knows me three guesses (and two of them don't count)
what I have been tying. The initials are PPP. Reason I have been tying those
is because my wife has her peanut stand and has ppl ordering those flies now
because they had such good success last year. BTW, business was good today
as my wife made the FRONT PAGE of the newspaper yesterday cause they are
doing a bi weekly article about the economy and ppl who are trying to make
their own "small businesses" survive the bad economy, and the guy picked her
to write a story about it. The paper has a circulation of about 50,000
copies per day and even had a color pic of her on the front page. I figured
the section would be on like page 4D when she told me about it, but nope.
right there on the front page. Chuck
 



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Fw: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Articulation

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes






Chuck, see this article also about articulated flies:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/articulation.html

DonO

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Fw: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Articulation

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes



Chuck, see this article also about articulated flies:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/articulation.html

DonO

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RE: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Neville Gosling

Not at all. It is 10' 3" in length, 12 guides inc stripper and tiptop, is
rated AFTM 4/5 and is my go to rod for nymphing and Czech nymphing in
particular.

Not much casting with Czech nymphing.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Hi Neville;

 

If it's that noisy, I imagine it stays home.  

 

Just curious, how many guides does it have, how big are they and how long is
the rod?

 

Wayneb

 

 

 

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RE: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges

Hi Neville;
 
If it's that noisy, I imagine it stays home.  
 
Just curious, how many guides does it have, how big are they and how long is 
the rod?
 
Wayneb
 


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From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: RE: [VFB] Fly rod guides
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Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 12:19 PM








Wayne et al:
 
Apart from the ceramic lined stripper, the single foot guides are unlined. I am 
using a standard Rio or Cortland line not the SA textured sharkskin lines.  I 
could be blindfolded and still recognize this commercially made rod by the 
sound that the line makes passing through the single foot guides. Having said 
that, I have not noticed any change to the distance of the cast.
 
Neville ( Nev ) Gosling
 



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Hi Neville;

 

I have an 8ft 6wt fly rod with gold single foot guides and don't notice any 
sound at all.  The builder did use pretty large guides though to keep the line 
away from the rod, I think theyr'e sizes 4's and 3's.  I also have another 
custom built rod, a 7ft 11wt rod built for kayak fishing for redfish. It has 
ELEVEN guides, first two double foot rest, single foot and all are recoil 
guides.  I know it sounds like a weird design but it's a real cannon, even with 
a 9wt bas bug taper.  I can't recall it making much noise either.  I don't fish 
it very often because it's a fast graphite rod and I only use it if I'm fishing 
on really windy days, then it excells even with an underweight line.

 

Wayneb

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From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:56 AM


Hi Tony:
 
I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo rod would be sacrilege and esthetically 
unpleasant!  While I have used single foot guides, I prefer good quality snakes 
for all my fly rods.  I have modern fly rod with single foots and I don’t like 
the sound as the line passes through the single foots – they are noisier than 
snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because less wraps reduces the 
cost.  I used to think snake guides were old fashioned but in fact, they are 
quite efficient.
 
Neville ( Nev ) Gosling
 
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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? Articulation

2011-01-06 Thread Don Ordes

Chuck, see this article also about articulated flies:

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/articulation.html

DonO
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  Tom: With 20 pound mono. When I tie these flies, the FIRST think I do is to 
take a fingernail file and rough up the shank of the leading hook so that it 
will grip the glue and the mono better. Then, I cut a piece of 3inch or so of 
the 20 pound mono, lay one end down along the shank of that front hook. I  then 
tie it down with a base of 3/0 thread I then super glue all that  to the shank. 
I remove that hook from the vise, put the second hook in the vise. Tie the back 
half of the wooly bugger on that back hook. Then, put the front hook back into 
the vise. I then pull the mono through the eye of the rear hook, tie that to 
the shank real well. Then clip the mono off. Then, superglue that down to the 
shank. Then, tie the front wooly bugger onto the front hook as normal, and 
that's it. Clear as mud??? Chuck

From: Tom Davenport 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

Cool!  What did you attach them with?

On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:

  Tom: Last year, I tied "articulated buggers" for a swap, and then, I 
caught quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck

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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different 
styles.  First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft 
store, (I posted a picture of some of them).  Then I tied up a bunch of buggers 
Chili Pepper style:  A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more 
using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic 
elements:  plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry 
fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar.  I tied some with 
red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green 
and Roasted Chilies?)  maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of 
flies using spectrumized "Canadian Style" mohair bodies in various colors, and 
lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal 
flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a 
hackled fly as a mohair fly.   It is much thinner than the other buggers and 
looks like a passable damsel fly  or dragon fly imitation.   Lately I have been 
doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good 
selection of buggers in various sizes and styles. 

Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger 
pattern you would like to tell me about?

When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual 
suspects:  Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in 
various sizes.  I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back 
and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else.  I don't 
know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks.  I 
will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in 
still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year.

Tom

On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:

Hi All;

What's everyone tying these days??

I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend 
and moving on to something for trout.  I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's 
red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go.  
Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout?

Wayneb 

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RE: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Neville Gosling

Wayne et al:

 

Apart from the ceramic lined stripper, the single foot guides are unlined. I
am using a standard Rio or Cortland line not the SA textured sharkskin
lines.  I could be blindfolded and still recognize this commercially made
rod by the sound that the line makes passing through the single foot guides.
Having said that, I have not noticed any change to the distance of the cast.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Hi Neville;

 

I have an 8ft 6wt fly rod with gold single foot guides and don't notice any
sound at all.  The builder did use pretty large guides though to keep the
line away from the rod, I think theyr'e sizes 4's and 3's.  I also have
another custom built rod, a 7ft 11wt rod built for kayak fishing for
redfish. It has ELEVEN guides, first two double foot rest, single foot and
all are recoil guides.  I know it sounds like a weird design but it's a real
cannon, even with a 9wt bas bug taper.  I can't recall it making much noise
either.  I don't fish it very often because it's a fast graphite rod and I
only use it if I'm fishing on really windy days, then it excells even with
an underweight line.

 

Wayneb

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Neville Gosling  wrote:


From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:56 AM

Hi Tony:

 

I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo rod would be sacrilege and
esthetically unpleasant!  While I have used single foot guides, I prefer
good quality snakes for all my fly rods.  I have modern fly rod with single
foots and I don't like the sound as the line passes through the single foots
- they are noisier than snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because
less wraps reduces the cost.  I used to think snake guides were old
fashioned but in fact, they are quite efficient.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Re: [VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges

Hi Neville;
 
I have an 8ft 6wt fly rod with gold single foot guides and don't notice any 
sound at all.  The builder did use pretty large guides though to keep the line 
away from the rod, I think theyr'e sizes 4's and 3's.  I also have another 
custom built rod, a 7ft 11wt rod built for kayak fishing for redfish. It has 
ELEVEN guides, first two double foot rest, single foot and all are recoil 
guides.  I know it sounds like a weird design but it's a real cannon, even with 
a 9wt bas bug taper.  I can't recall it making much noise either.  I don't fish 
it very often because it's a fast graphite rod and I only use it if I'm fishing 
on really windy days, then it excells even with an underweight line.
 
Wayneb

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From: Neville Gosling 
Subject: [VFB] Fly rod guides
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:56 AM








Hi Tony:
 
I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo rod would be sacrilege and esthetically 
unpleasant!  While I have used single foot guides, I prefer good quality snakes 
for all my fly rods.  I have modern fly rod with single foots and I don’t like 
the sound as the line passes through the single foots – they are noisier than 
snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because less wraps reduces the 
cost.  I used to think snake guides were old fashioned but in fact, they are 
quite efficient.
 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
 




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Of Anthony Spezio
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Wayne , As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan 
on single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I 
stand to be stomped on by single footers.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM






Hi Tony;

 

I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior to fly rods.  Most of 
the spinning rods I built used single foot guides so I guess single foot guides 
look more "normal"  to me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and actually 
using single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works compared to 
more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank that I plan 
on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much the two differ.

 

I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes just for the nostalga 
aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it though.

 

Wayneb

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From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM





It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake 
Guides.
Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again we 
do what we want to do and what pleases us.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM






Hi Tony;

 "BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making "

 

Why???

 

 

Wayneb


 
 
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[VFB] Fly rod guides

2011-01-06 Thread Neville Gosling

Hi Tony:

 

I agree. Single foot guides on a bamboo rod would be sacrilege and
esthetically unpleasant!  While I have used single foot guides, I prefer
good quality snakes for all my fly rods.  I have modern fly rod with single
foots and I don't like the sound as the line passes through the single foots
- they are noisier than snakes.  Rod manufacturers like single foots because
less wraps reduces the cost.  I used to think snake guides were old
fashioned but in fact, they are quite efficient.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

 

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Of Anthony Spezio
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Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

 


Wayne, As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan
on single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I
stand to be stomped on by single footers.
Tony

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges  wrote:


From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM


Hi Tony;

 

I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior to fly rods.  Most of
the spinning rods I built used single foot guides so I guess single foot
guides look more "normal"  to me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and
actually using single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works
compared to more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank
that I plan on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much the two
differ.

 

I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes just for the nostalga
aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it though.

 

Wayneb

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Anthony Spezio  wrote:


From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM


It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on
Snake Guides.
Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again
we do what we want to do and what pleases us.
Tony

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges  wrote:


From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM


Hi Tony;

 "BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making "

 

Why???

 

 

Wayneb


 

 

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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread glwebb

Sounds good Chuck.   One extra step I do to help secure the mono is to
flatten the end
with a pair of flat-nosed pliers from my radio building bench.  Probalby
not necessary
with superglue.   But as Tony says:  "Everybody should do what pleases
them."

Gary L Webb  NI9V




   
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Tom: With 20 pound mono. When I tie these flies, the FIRST think I do is to
take a fingernail file and rough up the shank of the leading hook so that
it will grip the glue and the mono better. Then, I cut a piece of 3inch or
so of the 20 pound mono, lay one end down along the shank of that front
hook. I  then tie it down with a base of 3/0 thread I then super glue all
that  to the shank. I remove that hook from the vise, put the second hook
in the vise. Tie the back half of the wooly bugger on that back hook. Then,
put the front hook back into the vise. I then pull the mono through the eye
of the rear hook, tie that to the shank real well. Then clip the mono off.
Then, superglue that down to the shank. Then, tie the front wooly bugger
onto the front hook as normal, and that's it. Clear as mud??? Chuck

 From: Tom Davenport
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

 Cool!  What did you attach them with?
 On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:

   Tom: Last year, I tied "articulated buggers" for a swap, and then, I
   caught quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck

   - Original Message -
   From: Tom Davenport
   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

   For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different
   styles.  First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at
   the craft store, (I posted a picture of some of them).  Then I tied
   up a bunch of buggers Chili Pepper style:  A couple dozen using
   Tony's colors, then a bunch more using similar materials but
   different colors, but all using the same basic elements:  plucked
   marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry fly
   hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar.  I tied
   some with red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives,
   blacks, light olive,(Green and Roasted Chilies?)  maroon, etc. After
   that, I experimented with a bunch of flies using spectrumized
   "Canadian Style" mohair bodies in various colors, and lately I have
   been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal flash
   ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like
   a hackled fly as a mohair fly.   It is much thinner than the other
   buggers and looks like a passable damsel fly  or dragon fly
   imitation.   Lately I have been doing a lot more stillwater fishing
   than river fishing, so I like having a good selection of buggers in
   various sizes and styles.

   Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger
   pattern you would like to tell me about?

   When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual
   suspects:  Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince
   Nymphs in various sizes.  I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using
   PT for the tail, back and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear
   dressing for everything else.  I don't know if it makes any
   difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks.  I will also be
   tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in
   still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the
   success this year.

Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges

Hi Tony;
 
On that note, what if I wanted to build a bamboo rod with titanium holographic  
single foot guides with purple inserts, elctric blue metallic thread, a 
graphite spinning rod reel seat, and a pink foam grip!
 
I guess you'd have a heart attack and die on the spot LOL!
 
In actuality, I envision building a 7' SirD taper 2pc, with either 
titanium(gunmetal finish) or black finished snakes(more than likely titanium), 
with an agate stripper, a phillipson hammer handle shaped grip(short) with an 
intregal cork real seat.  Again either titanium or black reel seat hardware to 
match rest of rod.  I'm also trying to figure out how to incorporate some type 
of dark hardwood for the from taper of the grip and a butt cap. Only thing I 
haven't decided on is the winding check or thread but leaning towards silk 
thread in a somewhat neutral brown or orange without color preserver so it 
becomes translucent once varnished.
 
For me, this would produce a rod with nothing bright or flashy either for fish 
or fisherman. But, if you look closely at the details I think the beauty shine 
through.
 
Wayne
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Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 6:53 AM






Wayne, As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan on 
single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I stand 
to be stomped on by single footers.
Tony

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges  wrote:


From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM







Hi Tony;
 
I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior to fly rods.  Most of 
the spinning rods I built used single foot guides so I guess single foot guides 
look more "normal"  to me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and actually 
using single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works compared to 
more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank that I plan 
on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much the two differ.
 
I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes just for the nostalga 
aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it though.
 
Wayneb

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Anthony Spezio  wrote:


From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM






It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake 
Guides.
Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again we 
do what we want to do and what pleases us.
Tony

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges  wrote:


From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM







Hi Tony;

 "BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making "
 
Why???
 
 
Wayneb

 

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RE: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread J Balmer

Depends on why he was single.

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I had a single Black-foot guide once.  Is that close enough?

DonO

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From: J Balmer   

I had a black single foot guide once, had to carry him across the rocks.

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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread Chuck Alexander

Tom: With 20 pound mono. When I tie these flies, the FIRST think I do is to 
take a fingernail file and rough up the shank of the leading hook so that it 
will grip the glue and the mono better. Then, I cut a piece of 3inch or so of 
the 20 pound mono, lay one end down along the shank of that front hook. I  then 
tie it down with a base of 3/0 thread I then super glue all that  to the shank. 
I remove that hook from the vise, put the second hook in the vise. Tie the back 
half of the wooly bugger on that back hook. Then, put the front hook back into 
the vise. I then pull the mono through the eye of the rear hook, tie that to 
the shank real well. Then clip the mono off. Then, superglue that down to the 
shank. Then, tie the front wooly bugger onto the front hook as normal, and 
that's it. Clear as mud??? Chuck
 
  From: Tom Davenport 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??


  Cool!  What did you attach them with?

  On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:


Tom: Last year, I tied "articulated buggers" for a swap, and then, I caught 
quite a few bass with them. here's a pic, Chuck

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  For the last month I have been tying up wooly buggers in different 
styles.  First I experimented using Chinese Crystal beads I found at the craft 
store, (I posted a picture of some of them).  Then I tied up a bunch of buggers 
Chili Pepper style:  A couple dozen using Tony's colors, then a bunch more 
using similar materials but different colors, but all using the same basic 
elements:  plucked marabou tail, metallic tinsel chenille body, stiff short dry 
fly hackle, a bead, and a bright, fluorescent orange collar.  I tied some with 
red, and red beads (Red Hot Chili Peppers?), Olives, blacks, light olive,(Green 
and Roasted Chilies?)  maroon, etc. After that, I experimented with a bunch of 
flies using spectrumized "Canadian Style" mohair bodies in various colors, and 
lately I have been tying a mohair fly on a curved hopper hook with crystal 
flash ribbing, and have been trimming the mohair so it looks as much like a 
hackled fly as a mohair fly.   It is much thinner than the other buggers and 
looks like a passable damsel fly  or dragon fly imitation.   Lately I have been 
doing a lot more stillwater fishing than river fishing, so I like having a good 
selection of buggers in various sizes and styles.


  Any suggestions for buggers? Do any of you have a favorite bugger pattern 
you would like to tell me about?



  When I can't stand tying buggers any more, I will tie up the usual 
suspects:  Pheasant Tails, Gold Ribbed Hare's ears, RS-2s and Prince Nymphs in 
various sizes.  I also tie up a PT/BHGRHE combo, by using PT for the tail, back 
and wingcase, but the usual Hare's Ear dressing for everything else.  I don't 
know if it makes any difference to the fish, but I like the way it looks.  I 
will also be tying up some chironomids, I had some luck fishing with them in 
still water last spring, and am going to try to duplicate the success this year.




  Tom





  On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:


  Hi All;

  What's everyone tying these days??

  I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and 
moving on to something for trout.  I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red 
fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go.  Anyone 
have suggestions to sizes for trout?

  Wayneb 




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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

Did you get him hopping.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
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I had a single Black-foot guide once.  Is that 
close enough?
DonO
 
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  From: 
  J Balmer 
   
  
  I 
  had a black single foot guide once, had to carry him across the 
  rocks… 
    

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Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??

2011-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio

Wayne, As I said, to each his own. If you make a bamboo rod with me and plan on 
single foot guides, you will have to take it home to wrap it. LOL  Now I stand 
to be stomped on by single footers.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:11 PM

Hi Tony;

I see, for me I started assembling spinning rods prior to fly rods.  Most of 
the spinning rods I built used single foot guides so I guess single foot guides 
look more "normal"  to me.  I'm working on a 7'6" fiberglass 3wt and actually 
using single foot ceramic ring lock guides just to see how it works compared to 
more conventional fly guides.  I have another 7'6" glass blank that I plan 
on using single foot titanium fly guides to see how much the two differ.

I think if I built a bamboo rod, I have to use snakes just for the nostalga 
aspect. I do envision single foot guides on it though.

Wayneb

--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

From: Anthony Spezio 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 5:55 PM

It is a personal thing, I just don't like them. I guess I was weened on Snake 
Guides.
Another thing. if not wrapped right, they will slip out from the wrap. Again we 
do what we want to do and what pleases us.
Tony

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From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:37 PM

Hi Tony;

 "BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making "

Why???

Wayneb

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Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-06 Thread David Masson

hey R where have you been? listen I have some elk hair light and dark if you 
want some let me know ok

take care dave

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

 Hi Peter:

I know I tend to lurk around here a little over the past year or two, but 
I sense a mate in trouble!!

I send over a bunch a couple months ago so someone may be able to help, 
however, I am happy to send it over to you for free. I am going on a 
family/fishing trip till Thursday but will be happy to order some when I 
get back. I can get it very cheap here(a third of what it costs in the 
US?). I also have 'assisted' postage. If you ever come across something 
interesting, I am always happy to get a bit to try, even if my flytying 
has gone to zilch over the last 24 months.

Let me know.

R

On 1/3/2011 6:46 AM, Peter Gramp wrote:
I'm wanting to tie up some ausable wulffs and need some Australian 
Opossum for it.  Does anyone either:
1.) Have some extra they would be willing to trade material for material 
with me for? or
2.) Know of a US- based supplier where the material and shipping would 
total under 10 bucks? (I'm married and on an allowance of sorts)

or I was thinking maybe
3.) Know of a substitute material that behaves and looks like Australian 
Opossum that I may already have (I've never worked with the Australian 
Opossum, so I don't know what would be similar)
Thanks in advance, and since I'm not sure if this is list-appropriate or 
not (it has to do with tying, but then I've not seen other emails like 
it), send replies off-list please.

-Pete
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