Re: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they?
Just getting to my mail. I would go to my books to look up the original recipe but I sold my complete collection several months ago. The only way I used to tie the Royal Coachman was with Fan wings. That was long ago. The few I have tied in the past couple of years have really been the wings with Calf wings. Trying to find the right feathers for Fan wings is getting harder all the time. Tony --- On Mon, 11/5/12, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 2:48 PM Hi Pete, how ya been? Thanks again for the reference to Dr. Kopitnik- a life-saver. Come to find out he also saved my son-in-law's life from an aneurism years ago. If my grand-child was a boy, we were going to name him Tom. Turned out a grand-daughter. On the fly: If my memory serves me correctly... The 'Coachman' went through an evolution per say. The original coachman was a wet fly with slate or white wings and straight peacock body with golden pheasant crest tail and brown beard hackle. A Coachman dry fly- palmer hackled was next, which was usually winged with white duck wings (fanwing). A red waist made it a Royal Coachman Fanwing. Replacing the duck wings with kip tail made it a Royal Wulff. Later add a Royal Trude (swept-wing). Many dry flies became Wulff patterns after that- variations but not really new patterns in my mind. Tony can probably chime in and correct me or add something. DonO - Original Message - From: Peter Gramp To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? So I have the day off and when I sat down at my vise to tie up 6 dozen Royal Coachmen dry flies in various sizes to restock my nearly empty flyboxes, I thought I knew the pattern by heart. Then I glanced over at the Benchside Reference and on the cover is what looks to be a royal coachman with calf tail wings... not with the duck quill slip wings that I originally thought. I tried looking up the pattern on google and in YouTube, but what I found was that about half of the recipes and/or pictures said upright quill wings, and the other half said calf tail upright. So I'm curious, what should the wings be for this pattern? I'm sure that either would work for catching trout, but I'm curious what the original pattern called for. (the calf tail wings remind me more of a Wulff than a Coachman, for what it is worth, but what do I know) For such a famous pattern, you would think that the recipe would be the same from one website source to another, but that's not what I found. Any help would be great! -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Another Tying Video
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Re: [VFB] Flymph and Streamer swaps are both full! 11/5/2012
*Peggy -* * * *I realize I was late requesting to tie in the streamer swap. If it will cause a problem, you should feel free to drop me from the streamer list and I will only tie in the flymph swap.* *-- * *Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.netwrote: On 11/6/2012 3:08 PM, Flyty1n wrote: Peggy, I am a bit confused. This was my nov 5 email, but I now note that on the Next email I am not on the list , cusco is. Kindly inform. Thanks. I need to know whether to tie or not to tie. Joyce I believe you are on both with a Iron Blue Dun and a olive fly. Peggy Sent from my iPad On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Joe Fusco 5Scott Bearden 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph 8Rene Zillman 9Jim Hodson 10Jerry McKaughan 11Keith 12Ashley Strutt 13Bob Hendry Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Rene Zillman 5Jerry McKaughan 6Ashley Strutt-Celeste 7Keith 8Robert Morger 9Dan Harrington 10 Joyce Westfall- -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/**SixSistersFlybox/http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/**SixSistersFlybox/ http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Flymph and Streamer swaps are both full! 11/5/2012
Speaking just for me. I am happy to tie one more so everyone is included. No need to have Joe drop. Mike On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Joseph Fusco, Sr. jfusc...@gmail.comwrote: *Peggy -* * * *I realize I was late requesting to tie in the streamer swap. If it will cause a problem, you should feel free to drop me from the streamer list and I will only tie in the flymph swap.* *-- * *Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.netwrote: On 11/6/2012 3:08 PM, Flyty1n wrote: Peggy, I am a bit confused. This was my nov 5 email, but I now note that on the Next email I am not on the list , cusco is. Kindly inform. Thanks. I need to know whether to tie or not to tie. Joyce I believe you are on both with a Iron Blue Dun and a olive fly. Peggy Sent from my iPad On Nov 5, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Joe Fusco 5Scott Bearden 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph 8Rene Zillman 9Jim Hodson 10Jerry McKaughan 11Keith 12Ashley Strutt 13Bob Hendry Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Rene Zillman 5Jerry McKaughan 6Ashley Strutt-Celeste 7Keith 8Robert Morger 9Dan Harrington 10 Joyce Westfall- -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/**SixSistersFlybox/http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/**SixSistersFlybox/ http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Corrected final Flymph and Streamer swaps 11/7
Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Joe Fusco 5Scott Bearden 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph 8Rene Zillman 9Jim Hodson 10Jerry McKaughan 11Keith 12Ashley Strutt 13Bob Hendry Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Rene Zillman 5Jerry McKaughan 6Ashley Strutt-Celeste 7Keith 8Robert Morger 9Dan Harrington 10 Joyce Westfall- -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Another Tying Video
These are nice video's, thanks for sharing. Peggy On 11/7/2012 10:00 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKMu_0XnI48 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Another Tying Video
Will keep doing it, they are pretty good. Tony --- On Wed, 11/7/12, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Another Tying Video To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 12:08 PM These are nice video's, thanks for sharing. Peggy On 11/7/2012 10:00 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKMu_0XnI48 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Corrected final Flymph and Streamer swaps 11/7
Hi Peggy, Please sign me up to tie a Mayfly Flymph in the Flymph Swap. Thanks! Cheers, Bob Hendry [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-VOn1BOD0 . . . my heart just longs to be in Philadelphia, USA . . . - - Art Lund, Philadelphia USA - lyrics At 13:07 11/7/2012, you wrote: Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1.Peggy B - Light Cahill 2. Neville Gosling - 3. Michael Bliss - 4. Joe Fusco - 5. Scott Bearden - 6. Joyce Westfall - Iron Blue Dun 7. Allan Fish - PMD flymph 8. Rene Zillman - 9. Jim Hodson - 10. Jerry McKaughan - 11. Keith - 12. Ashley Strutt - 13. Bob Hendry - Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1. Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2. Neville Gosling - 3. 3. Michael Bliss - 4. 4. Rene Zillman - 5. 5. Jerry McKaughan 6. 6. Ashley Strutt - Celeste 7. 7. Keith - 8. 8. Robert Morger - 9. 9. Dan Harrington - 10. 10. Joyce Westfall - -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.cominline: 2aa0501f.jpg
[VFB] New and corrected FULL Flymph and Streamer swaps
Here's the final and I'll add patterns, after tonights snow storm, I'll look through my email and fill in the blanks. So it's 13 flymphs and 11 streamers. Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Joe Fusco 5Scott Bearden 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph 8Rene Zillman 9Jim Hodson 10Jerry McKaughan 11Keith Passant 12Ashley Strutt 13Bob Hendry Mayfly Flymph Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Rene Zillman 5Jerry McKaughan 6Ashley Strutt-Celeste 7Keith Passant 8Robert Morger 9Dan Harrington 10 Joyce Westfall- 11. Joe Fusco -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] New and corrected FULL Flymph and Streamer swaps
*Peggy -* * * *Thanks!!* * * * * *-- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com * On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.netwrote: Here's the final and I'll add patterns, after tonights snow storm, I'll look through my email and fill in the blanks. So it's 13 flymphs and 11 streamers. Thirteen tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a spider type would be a great sub. 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Joe Fusco 5Scott Bearden 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph 8Rene Zillman 9Jim Hodson 10Jerry McKaughan 11Keith Passant 12Ashley Strutt 13Bob Hendry Mayfly Flymph Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold trout. Due February 1, 2013 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon 2Neville Gosling 3Michael Bliss 4Rene Zillman 5Jerry McKaughan 6Ashley Strutt-Celeste 7Keith Passant 8Robert Morger 9Dan Harrington 10 Joyce Westfall- 11. Joe Fusco -- Peggy Brenner President IWFF http://pbandj.us/**SixSistersFlybox/ http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
