[VFB] Don O Rope Dubbing again.

[Gary Webb]

Jack Dennis has posted this video Don Ordes and his Rope Dubbing
techniques.
In case you missed the chance to buy his DVD here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kZjcNtXN8&t=284s
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Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

[Gary Webb]

I like this Idea.  I will tie a favorite panfish fly that is also good
for trout.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:04 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail 
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> Thanks Gary,
> Dont know which to try first the fly or the drink! Haha.
> BUT I will deffinitly tie a few flies up. I will puty a pic up at some
> point.
> and
>
> Rene
> When is carnival season? Bierfest?
>
> And anyone up for an old farts swap MkII? Say ten participants and tie
> just ONE fly then put the picture of the fly and recipe on here No
> postage no sorting and no pressure and no loads of flies to tie. You could
> do it between naps!!?  :-)
>
> Cheers
> KP
>
> On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 02:08:10 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>
>> Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
>> https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
>> John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.
>> And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:
>> https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/
>>
>> Pink Squirrel
>>
>> 1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
>> 1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
>> Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream
>>
>> Mix in a blender until smooth.
>> Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
>> Float a Strawberry on top.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 11:21 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO was
>>> a monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed
>>> him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this
>>> group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick
>>> occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out
>>> there in left field :-)
>>> I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some
>>> water it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight fishing
>>> its prime ammo for that method I'd say.
>>> As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are
>>> young then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air Head
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I
>>>> tied a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a local
>>>> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally the
>>>> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part of. I
>>>> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink Squirrel
>>>> quite a lot if there are no rises.
>>>> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I could
>>>> not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house apart. It took
>>>> me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a few years
>>>> back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the fly's true
>>>> name and no one should infer anything from that about this tier.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>> Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put out
>>>>> of his dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 2 and
>>>>> still have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the suppliers he
>>>>> used. That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all the
>>>>> swaps we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do the
>>>>> Beer Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with Beer
>>>>> coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's Cherry
>>>>> Bomb was literally that!!!
>>>>> The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the Sowbug
>>>>> show Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the thought of
>>>>> all the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English Channel to
>>>>> Cologne and see Rene!!
>>>>> We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
>>>>> Take care
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joi

Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

[Gary Webb]

Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.
And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:
https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/

Pink Squirrel

1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream

Mix in a blender until smooth.
Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
Float a Strawberry on top.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 11:21 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO was a
> monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed
> him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this
> group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick
> occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out
> there in left field :-)
> I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some water
> it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight fishing its
> prime ammo for that method I'd say.
> As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are young
> then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air Head :-)
>
>
> On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>
>> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I tied
>> a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a local
>> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally the
>> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part of. I
>> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink Squirrel
>> quite a lot if there are no rises.
>> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I could
>> not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house apart. It took
>> me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a few years
>> back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the fly's true
>> name and no one should infer anything from that about this tier.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put out of
>>> his dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 2 and still
>>> have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the suppliers he used.
>>> That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all the swaps
>>> we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do the Beer
>>> Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with Beer
>>> coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's Cherry
>>> Bomb was literally that!!!
>>> The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the Sowbug
>>> show Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the thought of
>>> all the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English Channel to
>>> Cologne and see Rene!!
>>> We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
>>> Take care
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined VFB
>>>> right at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could call me one
>>>> of the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember thinking that I
>>>> was glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard :-)
>>>>> Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your brothers
>>>>> passing. However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and its city motto
>>>>> is "Out of darkness cometh light" and your three recent additions to the
>>>>> "pawpaw" duty list are exactly that. The light. Welcome to them all.
>>>>> Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. Who
>>>>> remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still have the
>>>>> flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all did.
>>>>> Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for Orvis
>>>>> (yes I know) in the UK for the l

Re: [VFB] Re: I'M still kickin'

[Gary Webb]

Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined VFB right
at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could call me one of
the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember thinking that I was
glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail 
wrote:

> HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard :-)
> Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your brothers
> passing. However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and its city motto
> is "Out of darkness cometh light" and your three recent additions to the
> "pawpaw" duty list are exactly that. The light. Welcome to them all.
> Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. Who
> remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still have the
> flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all did.
> Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for Orvis (yes
> I know) in the UK for the last 13 years of my working life. I retirred 2021
> and they closed down all but one of the stores in 22. See they just didnt
> realise how much they need me !!! :-)  Now I just do the gardening, some
> teaching tying and fly casting and looking after grandkids occassionally.
> Good to hear from you all.
> Oh and HPPY BIRTHDAY Great Grandad!!
> Keith
>
> On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 23:43:00 UTC+1 Charles Alexander wrote:
>
>> Folks: I'm still here too. Just haven't felt up to it as for the last two
>> yrs after covid TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a coma,kidneys
>> started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing something
>> else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive cologuard test and
>> I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that checked out.
>>
>> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have
>> seen and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a
>> walker but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me
>> now. I did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. He went to
>> Wal-Mart, got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There happened to
>> be a gold sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till the got there
>> and because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs which either
>> saved the lived or improved the lives
>>
>> On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still
>> haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's
>> only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass
>> and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we
>> did fish each trip. Then, three and six months ago respectively, we
>> welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total
>> and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand
>> daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a
>> GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to
>> condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow hard like me lol,
>> Chuck
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Re: [VFB] I'M still kickin'

[Gary Webb]

*"a blow hard like me  lol, Chuck" *That's exactly why we have been
concerned.
We knew you had to be sick or else you would have been telling us about 2
new grand
daughters, and a great granddaughter.  And or course we would have heard
about your
fishing exploits.
Speaking of fishing,  let us know what your new address is so we can send
you some flys to test and evaluate.  I know that is a hard job but I hope
you keep progressing to where you can handle it.  Catch you again on down
the log.  Gary NI9V

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'Charles Alexander' via VFB Mail <
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> Folks:  I'm still  here too. Just  haven't  felt up to it as for the last
> two yrs after covid  TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in a
> coma,kidneys started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix one thing
> something else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive
> cologuard test and I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get that
> checked out.
>
> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they have seen
> and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without the aid of a walker
> but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's going to fail me now. I
> did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. He went to Wal-Mart,
> got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There happened to be a gold
> sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till the got there and
> because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs which either saved
> the lived or improved  the lives
>
>  On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and are still
> haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the new place and it's
> only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both stocked with bass
> and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times last Spring and we
> did fish each trip.  Then, three and six months ago respectively, we
> welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the total to 17 and 18 total
> and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We even have one great grand
> daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't seem old enough to be a
> GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a BOOK here but trying to
> condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow hard like me  lol,
> Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Chuck

[Gary Webb]

Thanks Donna.  I've been concerned about Chuck for a while. He was always
very involved with VFB. He doesn't respond to my emails. He must be quite
under the weather to not jump in with these latest posts.
I'm thinking maybe trying a snail mail letter. Or a care package with some
Bluegill flies. Here is his address:
 *Chuck Alexander*
*4730 Nubbin Creek Road*
*Lineville, AL 36266*


On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 5:40 PM Donna Crowell  wrote:

> Hello to all
>
>  I haven't heard from Chuck in a while
> I got told from Allan which I know we loss
> RIP that Chuck had covid Allan said he was't
> doing good, maybe someone out there knows
> something . Please let me know if any one knows
> anything.  Thank You.
>
>  Donna...
>
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Gary Webb]

Please do.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:49 PM JERALD CARUSO  wrote:

> *Tony showed it to me long before he moved down to Arkansas.  It's been a
> part of my warm water box for many years.  I tie from size 6 to 2/0 The one
> I'm tying is loosely based on the "gutless frog"  It's weedless.  It's
> basically Tony's pattern tied backward.  I'll see if I can post a picture
> of it on the Facebook page.*
>
> *Jerry Caruso*
> *"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."*
>
> On 04/11/2023 3:26 PM Gary Webb  wrote:
>
>
> Love to tie frog patterns.   Have you tied Tony Spezio's Froggie?
> Great for trout and bass.
> http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/081604fotw.php
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:47 AM JERALD CARUSO 
> wrote:
>
> *I'm not much of a Facebook person.  So I don't usually post on it.  I do
> "see" Rick Zieger of some of the fly fishing web sites I frequent.  I'm
> still flailing away at the water.   Doing mostly warm water fishing these
> days.  Currently, working on some frogs for the upcoming bass season.
>  I'll have to make a note to check out the Facebook page more often.*
>
> *Jerry Caruso*
> *"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."*
>
> On 04/10/2023 5:02 PM Gary Webb  wrote:
>
>
> I see Rick Zieger fairly regularly posting on our Facebook group.
> But hardly anyone else.  I miss hearing from everyone. It would be nice to
> know how many of us are still falling into the creek or out of the boat.
> Gary Webb
>
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

[Gary Webb]

Love to tie frog patterns.   Have you tied Tony Spezio's Froggie?
Great for trout and bass.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/081604fotw.php

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:47 AM JERALD CARUSO 
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> *I'm not much of a Facebook person.  So I don't usually post on it.  I do
> "see" Rick Zieger of some of the fly fishing web sites I frequent.  I'm
> still flailing away at the water.   Doing mostly warm water fishing these
> days.  Currently, working on some frogs for the upcoming bass season.
>  I'll have to make a note to check out the Facebook page more often.*
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> *Jerry Caruso*
> *"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."*
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Re: [VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

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Great to hear from you all.  I did look in the mirror before I sent my
complaint.  I can empathize with you all.  Last May I fell backwards off a
creek bank from about 4 feet above the water. Ended with a collapsed L4.
Still get little reminders (pain) to remind me to be
more careful.  And my wife reminds me, and reminds me.  I have not been
doing as much tying as I would like.  I'm presently organizing my tying
station.  Too much stuff. I may have to donate a bunch at the next TU
banquet.

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:54 PM Bob Hendry  wrote:

> I'm still hanging on. Though I don't understand why I even bother with
> wearing waders. Seems I spend considerly more energy trying to climb up out
> of the creek than fishing it. Nothing worse than having cold H²O up to your
> knees inside your waders
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[VFB] Any VFB'ers communicating presently via email?

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I see Rick Zieger fairly regularly posting on our Facebook group.
But hardly anyone else.  I miss hearing from everyone. It would be nice to
know how many of us are still falling into the creek or out of the boat.
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[VFB] Peggy Brenner Kennabago Streamer

[Gary Webb]

years ago Peggy was in a VFB swap or two.

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Re: [VFB] Great hooks, great price

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Thanks for reminding me that I'm just returning to my roots.  I grew up in
West Virginia. Our house was set on a hillside 300 feet above the
Guyandotte River.  On the bank closest to us was a large patch of "Tenkara"
poles.  If needed, we would cut a few replacements in the spring, use them
during the summer, put them in the shed during the winter, and bring them
back out again in the spring.  Even without varnishing them like the "store
bought" ones they lasted a long time.

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 8:50 AM Allan Fish  wrote:

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> On May 15, 2021, at 9:38 AM, Gary Webb  wrote:
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> And I'm trying Tenkara fly fishing
>
>
> Gary,
> I’m proud to say I was way ahead of the game.  I started out fly fishing
> Tenkara style when I was probably only 5 or 6.  It was quite a bit of work
> for a young lad because we used 14-16 foot bamboo rods*.  It was a very
> successful way to fish.
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> Al
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> *In our youthful naivety, we called them “Cane Poles”.  Since it was the
> end of the depression and graphite rods hadn’t been invented yet, we used
> one-piece rods we picked up at the hardware store for about $3.00 (a huge
> investment in equipment at the time).
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> And since we didn’t have access to “Squirmy Wormy” material (which also
> hadn’t been invented yet), we just used live worms.
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[VFB] Great hooks, great price

[Gary Webb]

During this last year I have probably tied more flys (most I will probably
never use) than since we used to have several swaps going at one time.
Anyway, I love the hooks from Green Caddis Outfitters.   And the price is
pretty good too. https://gcoutfitters.com/

I've done a bit of fishing lately.  Caught several using a Pink Squirrel
most of the time.   After my hernia surgery, my Dr. said: "Don't go near
any water except a shower for the next two weeks." That ban ended two weeks
ago. Now all I have to do for the next three weeks is avoid catching a fish
that weighs more than 10 lbs.  I think I can manage that. LOL
My latest learning adventure in fly tying is with the Kebari style. They are
a Japanese creation.  A soft hackle fly with the cone facing forward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTVg3wKZ5A&authuser=0
And I'm trying Tenkara fly fishing. Which is very similar to Euro
Nymphing.If you are a KISS type of person, Tenkara fly fishing is about
as simple as it gets.  A lot of the streams here in the Driftless
Area of Southwest WI, Southeast MN, and Northeast IA are not very friendly
to long back casts, or even short ones. You get pretty good at roll
casting.  But in some spots that won't work either.
So any method that "keeps my fly in or on the water, because there are no
fish in the air", is worth trying.  Plus it gives me an excuse for buying
another fly rod. LOL.

Gary

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[VFB] Chili Pepper Shadow Box Photo

[Gary Webb]

I used to have a photo that showed who tied which fly.  Can't find it
anywhere.  I can barely remember which one I tied.  I'm hoping one of you
who participated can help me out.  Thanks.
Gary L Webb

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Re: [VFB] RE: Skin cancer

[Gary Webb]

Good news from a bad situation.  Kind of like mine.  My prostate cancer
numbers were just high enough to put it into the "moderately aggressive"
category.  Not good. But that meant Medicare would pay for an MRI scan to
see if it had spread. Thankfully it hadn't.  That made my decision between
surgery or radiation easier.  Today it has been five weeks since my
surgery.  I'm almost back to normal except for the main after effect
that everyone experiences.  For a while I couldn't go fishing because of
restrictions on how I could move my upper body.  But last Sunday I took two
of my grandsons (10 and 5) fishing.
They caught a couple of trout on Panther Martin spinners.  I haven't
started
either of them fly fishing yet.  But we will get there.
I hope you have been wetting a line occasionally.  Even when you catch no
fish, it's good to be out on the water.
Gary




On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 12:38 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: I got my results today and the growths my doc removed WERE basal
> cell skin cancer, but he says he’s all but positive he got them all. Just
> told me to watch out for any re-growth or new cancers. Thanks for the
> thoughts and prayers, Chuck
>
> _
> *From:* Chuck Alexander 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:06 PM
> *To:* flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com;
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> Folks: Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers as I had to have two
> more skin cancers removed from my right arm and shoulder yesterday that
> they turn out to be either basal cell or squamous  rather than much more
> dangerous melanoma. Weird though cause the one on my shoulder popped up a
> cpl months ago and the one on my arm only two weeks ago, yet to get to all
> normal looking tissue, he had to go ll the way to the bone on my arm. I
> like the way he does ot in that instead of doing a biopsy than coming back
> to get it removed  if it’s malignant, he likes to go ahead are remove the
> whole thing, then send it off. That way you only have a one visit removal.
>
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Gary Webb]

Sad news indeed.   Thanks for letting us know.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:55 AM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I visited
> them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a ladies fly
> tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to have a plan
> other than getting home after that. Going home was not an option without
> live in care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew both of them as
> the employees lived local as well.
>
> Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
>
> Peggy
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>> Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
>>
>> Rick
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>> On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden <
>> scott.bear...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
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>> From: *Mike Stout *
>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>
>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>> to
>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>> days.
>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>> on
>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>> have more information.
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [VFB] Must have missed the Tee shirt test

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It did sting when it first went in.  After that it didn't bother me.
Several years ago Susan my wife was with me when I got stuck.
The fly was buried.  I asked her to help me get it out because I couldn't
get a good grip on it. She took one look at it and said: "I'm not touching
that."
So today when I got home I showed her my finger with the fly still in it.
I knew what she would say:  "I'm not helping with this one either."
We both laughed.
"Maybe Life is just a memory.
We come. We see. We go."
Angelina Jordan: What Is Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv0r77KN7RA


On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:43 PM Neville Gosling 
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> *OUCH!*
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> I have had friends do this and have attempted to do it to myself but not
> that badly.
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> Neville (Nev) Gosling
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> On Mar 30, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Gary Webb  wrote:
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> I was out fishing this morning.  Crooked Creek in southeastern Minnesota
> is a short 30 minute drive away.
> This was a KISS outing.  Tenkara rod, a small box of Pink Squirrels, and
> polaroid glasses.  At the first pool I caught a nice 14 inch brown.  My
> next cast hooked a weed on the bank. I'm blaming the wind.  Anyway while I
> was trying to retrieve the fly, Shadow my fishing dog ran by and dragged
> the line through my hand until my finger stopped the hook. I thought, this
> is no big deal. I will just back it out and keep fishing. It would not
> budge.
> And I didn't have my vest with the forceps clipped to it.  I broke off the
> fly and went back to fishing.  Caught four more before heading for home.
> Five fish total. Plus a big guy that broke off.  66 inches and about 170
> lbs. At home I cut the hook with side cutter pliers and removed the point.
> I've always said my main reason for using barbless hooks is this:  The
> "Catch" I most like to release is *ME!*   I usually do the Tee shirt test
> on all my hooks. But I must have missed this one.
> Tight lines you all.  But only if your hook is in a fish and not your hide.
>
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Re: [VFB] FEATHERS

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Looked like there was plenty of herl on the feathers of the home page
"Bird". But then again they are natural not dyed.


On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:09 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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> Their dyed peacock does not have much herl left on it.Their peacock swords
> I like. Continential feathers.com has better peacock.
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> of feathers and other stuff fly tyers might like. Prices seem very
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> I had to lock up my credit card, because I already have more stuff than
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> https://www.moonlightfeather.com/
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[VFB] FEATHERS

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Like a lot things I do, I found this source by accident.   They have a lot
of feathers and other stuff fly tyers might like. Prices seem very
reasonable.
I had to lock up my credit card, because I already have more stuff than I'm
ever going to use.  But you all know how it goes.
https://www.moonlightfeather.com/

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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

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No more sad than I am to read this.  Thanks for letting us know.
Gary

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 3:55 PM Allan  wrote:

> I received a saddening phone call from Tony today.  He was very difficult
> to understand but he wanted me to post on the lists that he will no longer
> be able to make rods.  He has sold his lathe and some other equipment.
> There is still one rod at his house he would like to sell.  I think he said
> he would sell it for $500, but I am not certain.  He has some smaller tools
> available.  He did not say how to get them, but if you have are interested,
> I have his son Robert's e-mail address.
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> Tony said he is no longer able to read nor to use the internet.  He is
> very weak and I could tell it took all his effort to even make the phone
> call.  He was trying to tell me something and then just said "Bye" and hung
> up. Hi nursing home is like most others and allows no visitors,
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[VFB] TransparAnt tip

[Gary Webb]

When I tie this pattern now I use UV glue. Only make sure to get the
Hard/Clear stuff. A few seconds with the UV light hardens the glue.
Ebay has lots listed. And $5.00 for the UV flash light is not much less
than some "Five" minute epoxy.
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Re: [VFB] Health and weather

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I hope I didn't mislead any of you.  These flys are new to me.
Over the years I've tied many "Easiest Ever Ant Pattern" patterns.
 One of my all time favorites:  The late Ed Sutryn's McMurray Ant:
https://www.flydreamers.com/en/fly-tying/mc-murray-ant-vl233  Years ago I
ordered some from Ed.  Still in my vest. I'll never use them.  But trout
love ants so even my poor copies produce.  And I've tied Harrison Steeve's
TransparAnt.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIKex5Z-Ws
Also Kelly Gallup's Ant Acid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uuYX-cKqio
I've tied a variety of fur  and foam ants.

  But my newest ant pattern I'm tying is Mr. Bill's Flying Ant.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/050806fotw.php

The other new to me fly is Justin Bruce's:  Houdini Tenkara Fly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIB18lIzwew&t=496s
I bought a $10 rod from China to try fishing the Tenkara method.
And I've tied a bunch of Kebari style flies. Which I'm hoping to try soon.
On most of the small streams I fish Tenkara will work well.
Chuck, furled leaders work really well with Tenkara rods.
Well that's what I've been up to this winter.
Gary


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:11 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Gary: Thanks. Will do on keeping you both in my prayers. Chuck
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> Good to hear you're getting healthier Chuck.   I'm doing well, but
>
> Susan has had some setbacks.  I won't go into details.  Just keep us in
> your prayers as I know you do.   Weather here is typical Wisconsin in
> February.  Ten inches of snow last Sunday and minus 18 this morning.  The
> sun was shining but I wasn't even tempted to try for some trout.  Barely
> took my dog for a walk. When we get a day where temps get above freezing
> I'll be out trying some new patterns I tied recently.
>
> Gary
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> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:40 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> weather email out asking about everybody. How is everybody’s health and
> weather??? I FINALLY got over the pneumonia and dehydration I was
> hospitalized because of   for a few days back in November. I kept a hacking
> cough for over three months before getting rid of if FINALLY . And I think
> we have had rain for about 30 STRAIGHT.  And I hope to fix a few more
> things on my boat and boat trailer so we can boat fish as much as possible
> this yr but it’s always raining so I haven’t been able to work on it. Hope
> everybody is at least doing “fair to middlin’ “as we say in the deep South
> here, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Health and weather

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Good to hear you're getting healthier Chuck.   I'm doing well, but
Susan has had some setbacks.  I won't go into details.  Just keep us in
your prayers as I know you do.   Weather here is typical Wisconsin in
February.  Ten inches of snow last Sunday and minus 18 this morning.  The
sun was shining but I wasn't even tempted to try for some trout.  Barely
took my dog for a walk. When we get a day where temps get above freezing
I'll be out trying some new patterns I tied recently.
Gary

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:40 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> weather email out asking about everybody. How is everybody’s health and
> weather??? I FINALLY got over the pneumonia and dehydration I was
> hospitalized because of   for a few days back in November. I kept a
> hacking cough for over three months before getting rid of if FINALLY .
> And I think we have had rain for about 30 STRAIGHT.  And I hope to fix a
> few more things on my boat and boat trailer so we can boat fish as much
> as possible this yr but it’s always raining so I haven’t been able to
> work on it. Hope everybody is at least doing “fair to middlin’ “as we say
> in the deep South here, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Dot

[Gary Webb]

Wonderful news Tony.   Gary

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> Best CHRISTMAS gift today, I clearly heard Dot say MERRY CHRISTMAS to my
> daughter on the phone and to a nurse.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Tony, mine too.  Thanks for letting us know.
Gary

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> Prayers needed,
> My wife Dot is in the hospital. She has been unresponsive for a couple of
> days.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Suggestion for Paper Books with Czech / Euro / Jig nymph patterns in them

[Gary Webb]

"I have never liked the indicators, most are to big and remind me of
bobbers."
Peggy, that's because they are bobbers.   They are useful at times.
Otherwise I would never catch those four inch chubs.

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:12 PM Peggy Brenner  wrote:

> I'll have to look for a real book, I use a Kindle and lot's of tying books
> are on the Unlimited plan.  I enjoyed a talk with Jan Siman and got some of
> his materials, the chapstick looking marker for the tippet and a couple of
> furled leaders that are colored. I have never liked the indicators, most
> are to big and remind me of bobbers.
>
> It was nice to see you and family at the Symposium, the hall was smaller
> this year but made for a closer show.
>
> Peggy
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 10:44 AM Pete Gramp  wrote:
>
>> Hi, VFB folks - hope everything is well with you -
>> My son and I went to the International Fly Tying Symposium in Parsippany
>> NJ (USA) a weekend or so ago, and we both really enjoyed the flies tied by
>> Czech nymph master Jan Siman.  My son is asking me why there's a shortage
>> of books that speak about fly patterns tied in the realm of Czech nymph,
>> Euro nymph, or just jig nymph patterns, and my best guess is because
>> everything these days has gone digital - that is, everything has shifted to
>> instagram, facebook, or YouTube.
>>
>> So with that hunch in mind, I'm reaching out to see if anyone knows of
>> any books that have a wealth of patterns specific to the Czech nymphs, Jig
>> nymphs, and/or Euro nymphing styles.  We can always use youtube, sure, but
>> what we're after is a paper book.  That said, if you know of a particular
>> tyer or channel on instagram or youtube, or the likes, please let me know
>> so we can check it out - if they deal specifically or mostly with those
>> types of nymphs, please.
>>
>> Thanks, everyone!
>> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Gary Webb]

Ed,
I live in Onalaska just north of La Crosse.   Maybe 30 minutes from Timber
Coulee Creek and less than an hour from the West Fork of the Kickapoo. Both
are top tier trout streams. This is the Driftless Area
https://www.driftlessangler.com/
Gary



On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:04 AM Ed Roden  wrote:

> Gary - where are you in Wisconsin? I'm in Milwaukee at least 2 weeks a
> month, which limited my fishing this summer. Hoping to get out some more in
> the coming year while I'm there.
>
> Ed Roden
> Email: flyfished at gmail dot com
> Twitter: @flyfished
> mittenstateangler.com
>
> Henrietta Lange: The true test of a commander is when he is as frightened
> and confused as those who look up to him. In that moment, when you can't
> find it in yourself, you will find it in them. That's leadership.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:57 AM Gary Webb  wrote:
>
>> Fishing has slowed here in Wisconsin.too.  Season is closed until
>> January. Feels like January already. Yesterday's low was 6 degrees F.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Rene Zillmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nev,
>>>
>>> so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
>>> However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.
>>>
>>> My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids
>>> took me out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time,
>>> if we shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now
>>> eager to ty some flies with me.
>>> Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my
>>> hoppers, the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.
>>>
>>> However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal.
>>> For trout. Suggestions?
>>>
>>> KR
>>> Rene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>>>
>>> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for
>>> "The Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except
>>> VFB. There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a
>>> word about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual
>>> Flybox". Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site,
>>> we seem to have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it
>>> little wonder that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a
>>> shame.
>>>
>>> Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker
>>> Gudebrod went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss
>>> which it seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it
>>> must have at least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy
>>> split-cane rod and used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I
>>> ran out before finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100
>>> yard spools of scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
>>>
>>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>>> Greater Vancouver
>>> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Gary Webb]

Fishing has slowed here in Wisconsin.too.  Season is closed until January.
Feels like January already. Yesterday's low was 6 degrees F.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Rene Zillmann 
wrote:

> Hi Nev,
>
> so true, the list has slowed down a lot.
> However, it is also our responsibility to revive it a bit.
>
> My fishing was slow this year for known reasons. One of my grandkids took
> me out for fishing. Well, this 4 year old asked my a couple of time, if we
> shouldn't go out and catch some fish. That's more precise. He is now eager
> to ty some flies with me.
> Tying season is ahead of us, so I'll intend to stock my boxes with my
> hoppers, the blue (parachute) beetle and some EHCs.
>
> However, I'm wondering if I shouldn't add something new to my arsenal. For
> trout. Suggestions?
>
> KR
> Rene
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2019 03:48 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>
> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for
> "The Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except
> VFB. There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a
> word about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual
> Flybox". Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site,
> we seem to have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it
> little wonder that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a
> shame.
>
> Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker
> Gudebrod went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss
> which it seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it
> must have at least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy
> split-cane rod and used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I
> ran out before finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100
> yard spools of scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] VFB & Gudebrod

[Gary Webb]

I used to tie with Gudebrod partly because their thread was very good.  And
partly because they had partnered with Gary Borger and numbered their
threads according to his color system.  I have
his booklet with all the colors in it.  Makes it easy to match an insect's
color with his system.  I think some tying materials were numbered too.
 So when Gudebrod folded their tent I was a bit disappointed.   These days
I'm not so particular about thread color for tying.  But wrapping rods
would be a different story.
I'm glad you found what you were looking for.
Gary Webb

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:48 PM Neville Gosling 
wrote:

> No wonder this site is not getting much traffic. I just did a search for
> "The Virtual Flybox” and every virtual or non-vitual flbox is there except
> VFB. There is a virtual flybox in Colorado with the same name but nary a
> word about us. Maybe I should have searched for "Byard Miller’s Virtual
> Flybox". Unfortunantly, since Byard lost interest in maintianing the site,
> we seem to have slipped to the bottom of the list or even right off! It it
> little wonder that we get little interest from newcomers. It really is a
> shame.
>
> Changing the subject, does anyone know or remember when thread maker
> Gudebrod went out of business after losing a conract to supply dental floss
> which it seems was keeping the company going. I lose track of time but it
> must have at least 5 or more years ago. I recently restored a Hardy
> split-cane rod and used a new spool of red Gudebrod thread that I had but I
> ran out before finishing the rod and had to pay a small fortune for 2x100
> yard spools of scarlet thread to finish the job and repace what I had used.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Gary Webb]

Check this on Nick Runarrson's site.  He has an original of Jimmy's poem.
/fftf <http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/fftffpoem.htm>
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<http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/fftffpoem.htm>fpoem.htm
<http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/fftffpoem.htm>



On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:51 PM Gary Webb  wrote:

> IOFF  International Order of Flytying Fanatics
> Jimmy D Moore,
> No Moore
> Except in our Hearts
> ForeverMoore
>
> Not as good as Jimmy D.  What can I say.
>
>   I wrote this poem about the time the VFB bunch came up with the
> International Order of Fly Tying Fanatics.  Hope you enjoy it.
>
> JIMMY D
>
> *A FLY  TYING  FANATIC*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Cotton balls, wine corks, tow sacks, I save'em all. Craft beads, sparkle
> rope, doll's eyes, I'm walkin tall. Mosquito net, you bet!  And it's
> already green, don't have to dye it.  Just try it.  You'll see what I mean.
> Sewing thread, parrot feathers, and purple yarn. I'll use most anything,
> and don't really give a darn. Closed cell foam and balsa wood. Anything
> goes. Why I've even used the lint from between my toes. Candle wax, bee's
> wax, ear wax, I use'em all. Soda straws, model paint bought at the Mall.*
>
>   j
> *avalina hair & belly hair from an Armadillo. Why I even use eider down
> from my pillow.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Longhorn tail hair, my hair and hair from my cats.  I'll even use belly
> hair from a free-tailed bat. Black Visqueen sure makes good beetle backs.
> Cut'em out, glue'em on, hang'em on the rack. Thus is the life of a fly
> tying fanatic. Could I use the fiberglass insulation from my attic? I throw
> away nuthin.  I keep all kinds of stuff. With my kind of  fly tying,
> there's never enough! By  JIMMY  D. MOORE August 23, 2005 ©  *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *I remember so many swaps Meistered by Jimmy D.College colors, NASCAR, and
> the Jody Courage Swap.Gary L Webb *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:06 PM Allan Fish  wrote:
>
>> I tried to reply last night on my iPad - it must have been rejected.
>>
>> This was a really saddening notice.
>>
>> Jimmy was a remarkable person.  For those of you who didn't know him, he
>> retired from the Boy Scouts of America as the Executive (that's the Big
>> Kahuna) of the over 140,000 acre Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico.
>> <https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/about/>My very questionable
>> memory is telling me he was there 23 years.
>>
>> After retirement, he became the Outdoors Writer for many newspapers in
>> Texas.  He also wrote a hilarious fishing book (I'd have to go upstairs
>> to get it to remember the title) in the same vein as Patrick McManus.
>>
>> I miss Jimmy D.
>>
>> Prayers to Jody.
>>
>> af
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Moore

[Gary Webb]

IOFF  International Order of Flytying Fanatics
Jimmy D Moore,
No Moore
Except in our Hearts
ForeverMoore

Not as good as Jimmy D.  What can I say.

  I wrote this poem about the time the VFB bunch came up with the
International Order of Fly Tying Fanatics.  Hope you enjoy it.

JIMMY D

*A FLY  TYING  FANATIC*















* Cotton balls, wine corks, tow sacks, I save'em all. Craft beads, sparkle
rope, doll's eyes, I'm walkin tall. Mosquito net, you bet!  And it's
already green, don't have to dye it.  Just try it.  You'll see what I mean.
Sewing thread, parrot feathers, and purple yarn. I'll use most anything,
and don't really give a darn. Closed cell foam and balsa wood. Anything
goes. Why I've even used the lint from between my toes. Candle wax, bee's
wax, ear wax, I use'em all. Soda straws, model paint bought at the Mall.*

  j
*avalina hair & belly hair from an Armadillo. Why I even use eider down
from my pillow.*














* Longhorn tail hair, my hair and hair from my cats.  I'll even use belly
hair from a free-tailed bat. Black Visqueen sure makes good beetle backs.
Cut'em out, glue'em on, hang'em on the rack. Thus is the life of a fly
tying fanatic. Could I use the fiberglass insulation from my attic? I throw
away nuthin.  I keep all kinds of stuff. With my kind of  fly tying,
there's never enough! By  JIMMY  D. MOORE August 23, 2005 ©  *







*I remember so many swaps Meistered by Jimmy D.College colors, NASCAR, and
the Jody Courage Swap.Gary L Webb *







On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:06 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> I tried to reply last night on my iPad - it must have been rejected.
>
> This was a really saddening notice.
>
> Jimmy was a remarkable person.  For those of you who didn't know him, he
> retired from the Boy Scouts of America as the Executive (that's the Big
> Kahuna) of the over 140,000 acre Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico.
> My very questionable
> memory is telling me he was there 23 years.
>
> After retirement, he became the Outdoors Writer for many newspapers in
> Texas.  He also wrote a hilarious fishing book (I'd have to go upstairs
> to get it to remember the title) in the same vein as Patrick McManus.
>
> I miss Jimmy D.
>
> Prayers to Jody.
>
> af
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Re: [VFB] Jimi - Desert Eagle

[Gary Webb]

I too am sad to hear this news.  My youngest daughter is also
named Amanda.  I remember when his daughter was young Jimi
was encouraging her to tie flies.  I think I sent her a bunch of Fly Tyer
magazines.  Jimi hosted some swaps too.  Missed for sure.
Gary

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Rene Zillmann 
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> Flytyers,
>
> many of you know Jimi, I met him twice at the Sowbug.
>
> Found this sad news today.
>
> https://www.westfuneralhomellc.com/obituary/james-genzling?fh_id=13587
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> May he rest in peace
>
> Rene
>
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Re: [VFB] Prayers welcome

[Gary Webb]

Rene.  Prayers from here for you and your family.  Would you mind sharing
your grandbabies names?  I know God knows who they are when I pray.
But I feel more connected when I know the name(s).  Do your grandchildren
call you and your wife Opa and Oma? Or do they have their own special names
for you?
At one time in my career I repaired and calibrated the monitors in the
Neonatal ICU (Premie unit). As Chuck has indicated the people that work in
those units daily perform miracles.  So we will pray for them too.

Gary



On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:44 PM Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

> Rene: I'll keep them all in my thoughts and prayers. Ppl are surprised to
> learn how preemie that babies can be so early and still be viable. One of
> my best friends here  when his first grand baby was born at 5 1/2 months
> and the baby was the  soda of a 12 soda can and weighed only 16 ounces.
> Well, yes, she has to stay in the neonatal ICU for a few months. But today
> at 5 1/2 yrs old, she's of average weight, height, healthy as a horse  and
> even played T ball baseball this yr, Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> Subject: [VFB] Prayers welcome
>
> Folks,
>
> some of you know my youngest daughter Anna. She attended with me the
> sowbug some 14 years ago. In the meantime a nice and very intelligent young
> lady, she is married and is working as a lawyer in the area of food safety.
>
> She was pregnant with twins, and yesterday she had to give birth. It was
> no as scheduled, and way too early. They need to do an emergency-caesarian
> within few minutes, luckily she was already in one of the best hospitals
> which is specialized for preterm delivery.
>
> All 3 are alive, Anna is doing well but still suffers from the rather rude
> treatment.
>
> The 2 babies  are stable but are on risk. The hospital are able to help
> when it happens after a certain duration of the pregnancy, and the babies
> are exact on this day - not even one day extra. Each baby has one nurse
> which is exclusively monitoring this single child. as they work 8h shift
> and monitoring is needed all the time, this are 3 nurses for one baby. Just
> to give you an impression where we are.
>
> We pray that this turns out well.
>
>
> Rene
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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

[Gary Webb]

Hi Tony,  good to hear from you again.  If I had a dock where big fish been
seen, I would probably complain loud and long about not being able to visit
it.  In our prayers.

Gary




On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:49 PM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Glad someone is fishing. Lot of rain and high muddy water here. In spite
> of the high water some big Browns have been caught. Right here in my
> stretch of water there was a 16+ pound and another 8+ pound brown caught a
> week or so ago. Many other large Browns and Rainbows have been caught over
> the past few weeks on high water. We have had high water for over three
> months.
> I am still having a lot of problems and pain with the leg, I will not even
> attempt to go down to the dock. I do good to just walk to the bathroom.
> Enough complaining.
> Arkansas Tony.
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 10:26:24 AM CDT, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> One of several that  fish.Used a black marabou leach on a jig head and a
> red springbrook wonder jig(estaz minnow with chickabou tail).  Many of the
> ponds are mud pits right now.
>
> Ric k
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 9:36:03 AM CDT, Phxflytyer 
> wrote:
>
>
> Rick;
> Is this the same pond you always fish? What were you using?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Went out this am. Got 25 gills and two nice crappie. Tossed about 2 dozen
> bass back in .
>
> Rick
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 7:26:18 PM CDT, Phxflytyer <
> phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Went fishing last Thursday and caught 7 and lost 8 or 9 more. My fishing
> partner landed 4 but caught 3 more that had an early release. All rainbows.
> The week before I only caught 2 or 3 and lost several more. But my partner
> landed 5, and lost several more. Found out that the dropper that was tied
> onto the bend of the hook was causing the quick release. I am now tying the
> dropper to the eye of the lead hook.
> Read an article in a fly fishing book talking about using a clear seed
> bead, and a tippet ring. Tie both on the tippet ring but one shorter then
> the other and it eliminates the hooks getting fouled together. Will try
> this as soon as I can find the two sizes of tippet rings I have. ( the mind
> is a terrible thing to loose).
> Will be going out next Tuesday. I will be fishing for Largemouth Bass as
> well as Trout.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:04 PM, Ron Boutin  wrote:
>
> Have had a lot of rain here in New York. It has affected the hatches but
> have had some decent days fishing the Delaware river system. Been doing
> some fly tying, getting ready for a fall trip in Wyoming..
>
> Ron Boutin
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 26, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Phxflytyer  wrote:
>
> Nice fish Jack.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Mesa, Az.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Jack Harford  wrote:
>
> Lots of rain in Indiana. Just returned from a trip to Korea and Japan.
> South Korea stocked bass and bluegills years ago and they have flourished
> in many of their lakes and rivers. I keep a fly rod at my daughter's house
> for visits like this. Got out a couple of times (bass pic)
> Back Home Again in Indiana it has been mostly pond fishing for bluegills
> and the occasional bass. The rivers are starting to go down and may be
> fishable soon if we don't get more rain.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 3:41 PM Rene Zillmann 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> slow list, indeed, but I'm slow as well.
>
> Tying is slow, I'm too busy with family duties - family grows like crazy,
> 4 grandchildren so far and 3 to surface until end of year.
>
> I was out only once a week ago, with my oldest grandchild - thze boy is 3.
> So, we had some fun, did catch one small fish, and missed a 2nd one. The
> 'productive' pattern was my blue parachute beetle. I did ty this one at the
> sowbug.
>
> I hope, you folks had more time for fishing
>
> Best
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> On 06/17/2019 06:28 AM, Gary Webb wrote:
>
> Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?
>
> Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the
> M

Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

[Gary Webb]

Rene thanks for the update.  Great news on the growing family.
Grandchildren are great.  Two of mine
want me to take them fishing this weekend.  Ryan is eight and his brother
Declan is four.  We'll go for
panfish.  Might try a bit of Tenkara to expose them to fly fishing.

Gary

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 2:41 PM Rene Zillmann 
wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> slow list, indeed, but I'm slow as well.
>
> Tying is slow, I'm too busy with family duties - family grows like crazy,
> 4 grandchildren so far and 3 to surface until end of year.
>
> I was out only once a week ago, with my oldest grandchild - thze boy is 3.
> So, we had some fun, did catch one small fish, and missed a 2nd one. The
> 'productive' pattern was my blue parachute beetle. I did ty this one at the
> sowbug.
>
> I hope, you folks had more time for fishing
>
> Best
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> On 06/17/2019 06:28 AM, Gary Webb wrote:
>
> Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?
>
> Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the
> Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have
> been in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout
> streams are running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused
> the hatches to be off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have
> managed to catch a few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times.
> Part of the challenge, I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's
> Hippie Stomper.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was
> created for trout, but I know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond
> behind his back yard and has just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and
> he caught a nice three pound Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for
> Panfish too.
> Tuesday I'm scheduled to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to
> a local pond and try for Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed
> success.  But you never know.  The last time I took them they wandered
> around the pond trying to catch frogs. They had a great time.  Which is the
> whole point.  I remember doing the same for crawdads when I was a kid in
> West Virginia.
>
> Gary
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[VFB] What's everyone doing?

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Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?

Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the
Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have
been in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout
streams are running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused
the hatches to be off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have
managed to catch a few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times.
Part of the challenge, I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's
Hippie Stomper.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was
created for trout, but I know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond
behind his back yard and has just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and
he caught a nice three pound Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for
Panfish too.
Tuesday I'm scheduled to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to a
local pond and try for Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed
success.  But you never know.  The last time I took them they wandered
around the pond trying to catch frogs. They had a great time.  Which is the
whole point.  I remember doing the same for crawdads when I was a kid in
West Virginia.

Gary

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[VFB] Parachute By Agostino Roncallo

[Gary Webb]

Agostino's method embodies the KISS principle.  Does not require any
special tools.
His flies are beautifully tied.
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Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update 3/15

[Gary Webb]

Don,  Tony

I'm so happy to hear from you both.  But so sorry to hear of your pains.
 You are in my/our prayers.
Wish I could go to The Sow Bug again.   But Susan my wife has a lot of
constant pain herself.  Too long a ride
from Wisconsin to Arkansas.

Gary




On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:02 PM DonO  wrote:

> Hi Gary and all swappers,
>
> I’m still here battling to come back from the stroke. Found recently that
> my debilitating pain is called Degerne-Roussy Syndrome  or “post-stroke
> central pain syndrome.” Also called thalamic stroke pain syndrome.
>
> Long story short, the pain meds have failed and left me worse off with the
> pain plus the side effects- which are themselves terrible.
>
> So for the last 3 months I’ve been battling back to see what’s going to be
> my life.
>
> I am just able to get back to my fly room after 3 months out of
> commission. I’m doing plenty good health-wise- it’s just the pain issues
> are out of hand. The pain gets so bad I can’t use my right hand even though
> it can do some things. It also effects my right leg that way.
>
> So now I head to the bench to sort, divide, and repackage 18 sets of
> flies, plus tie my set.
>
> I’ll give an update after my first flies.
>
> I believe I’m waiting for one set to arrive.
>
> If my hand works, it shouldn’t take very long. If it’s all gone from the
> pain, I have a fall-back plan or two.
>
> Cheers, DonO
>
>
> *Subject:* [VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?
>
> Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.
>
> Gary
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Re: [VFB] Chuck

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Thanks Allan.

Gary Webb

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> no damage from the devastating storm in Alabama.
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Re: [VFB] My flies

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*Chuck I hope you and your family were not impacted by the tornados. I
prayed a quick prayer this morning after I saw the news about the
tragedies.  Let us know if you need*
*anything.*

*Gary*

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> Don: My flies are leaving Alabama tomorrow  I hope they are not late, but
> my wife just got out the hospital and we have both been down with stomach
> viruses  Chuck
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[VFB] Pink Squirrel swap update?

[Gary Webb]

Don,  actually I just want to be sure you are OK.

Gary

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Re: [VFB] Beads Hobby Lobby

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Round Metal Beads - 3.2mm
<https://www.hobbylobby.com/Beads-Jewelry/Beads/Metal-Beads/Round-Metal-Beads---3-2mm/p/65687#review-section>
$3.99

SKU: 614057

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:33 PM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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> What is the item number?  Thanks
>
> Rick
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> *Subject:* [VFB] Beads Hobby Lobby
>
> The other day I bought a packet of "Metalic" beads at Hobby Lobby.  This
> pkg had 250 beads and cost me less than $4.00.  They have gold, silver,
> copper, and black in different sizes.  They aren't tungsten, and I believe
> they are hollow not solid.  So if you use beads for weight these may not
> be for you.  When they are on the hook the fly looks as good as the beads
> you pay $5.00 for 20.
> IMHO.
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[VFB] Beads Hobby Lobby

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The other day I bought a packet of "Metalic" beads at Hobby Lobby.  This
pkg had 250 beads and cost me less than $4.00.  They have gold, silver,
copper, and black in different sizes.  They aren't tungsten, and I believe
they are hollow not solid.  So if you use beads for weight these may not
be for you.  When they are on the hook the fly looks as good as the beads
you pay $5.00 for 20.
IMHO.
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Re: [VFB] Sign-up list update 3-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

[Gary Webb]

The Driftless Angler Fly Shop has stocked this fly but it opened in 2006.
I watched John Bethke demonstrate how to tie it over twenty years ago.
Feather Craft has the Pink Squirrel in their catalog with John's name on it.

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[VFB] Drinks Swap List 2003

[Gary Webb]

Don here  are some names to lead you farther down memory lane..

Drinks Fly Swap with "Fly named after a drink"

Send 15 flies one for each entrant,including one to be
returned and one for Byard.  Please enclose :-
The flies in a light tin or box.
A self addressed envelope.
Two yankee dollars for postage, no coins, no cheques.
Flies due in england by mid june
Iain Short 29 Rothesay Terrace Bedlington
Northumberland NE225PT England

1.Jerry Sorrenson  Bloody Mary
2.Ken MacGilivray  Pink Lady
3.Iain ShortSherry Spinner
4.Jim Pickerd  White Russian+twist of cherry
5.Denis GouldingGuiness Fly { No suprise there :-) }
6.Dr.Doug
7.Soren Finne  Whisky Fly
8. Gary L Webb. Pink Squirrel
9.Jimmy D MooreTequila Sunrise Bead Nymph
10.William Andress  Shaken not Stirred
11.Deb DuranThe Glen Grant
12.Tyanna Steel
13.DonOFuzzy Navel
14.Joyce Westphal

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Re: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph

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I'm in.  Years ago some us were in a Drinks Swap.  Rules were :  Tie a fly
that has the same name as a mixed drink.  Provide recipe for the fly and
the drink.. I tied the Pink Squirrel:
https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp.  And the
Drink:
https://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/pink-squirrel-cocktail/b1b6c25f-c8e5-4270-9b86-08f78bc2ef96
 Both were invented in Wisconsin.  I live only about 35 miles from John
Bethke's home in Westby, WI.  I've used his Pink Squirrel pattern for over
30 years.
I have tied several variations of his original version..   I could tell
lots of  stories about using this pattern.  The one I remember best is from
several years ago.  Two friends and I couldn't wait to do some early
fishing on one of our local spring creeks. Recent rains had left every
stream running high and very discolored.  After the third or fourth stream
we gave up on finding clear water and decided to fish anyway.   I don't
remember what my friends fished with.  I do remember that neither one was
using a Pink Squirrel.   And neither one caught any fish. Actually I was
surprised I did.  I offered them some but they must have been going thru
what I call a *purist stage* "Pink Squirrels don't look like anything that
lives in a trout stream."  Okay. So what. Anyway count me in.


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:14 PM DonO  wrote:

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> Howdy All,
>
> I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need
> to keep my energy up.
>
> I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate
> for a swap.  It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it
> and have probably fished it.
>
> If you have fished it, a story can be added.  Even crawfish like this
> pattern!
> [image: Image result for crawfish took a pink squirrel fly]
> 
>
> Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers)
>
> 1.  Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not.
> 2.  List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern.
> 3.  Lots of photos on a search of images
> 4.  Broad range of quarry fish
> 5.  Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose
>
> 6.  Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary
> 7.  Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited
> for a collar per the photo archives)
> 8.  Gold or silver bead
> 9.  Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern
>
> 10  Number of swappers to dictate size of swap
> 11.  Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.)
> or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something
> special. (Story?)
>
> Any extra flies will be donated to good charity.
>
> Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up.
>
> All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of
> variations with a common theme.
>
> Any VFB swappers left?
> Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe
> we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap.
>
> Cheers,
> DonO
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Re: [VFB] Dr. Slick Scissors

[Gary Webb]

Thanks Chuck.   Not that I don't have several scissors already.  But I
don't think any fly tyer has ever said:  "I have too many scissors."  LOL
Gary

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 4:34 PM Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: I found this guy and his Dr. Slick scissors right before Christmas.
> He’s got a heck of a price #2 they are Dr.  Slick, 3 they are razor
> sharp, 4 it only took 3 days to get them right before Christmas and you
> get three pair for basically the price of one. I have NO affiliation with
> the guy other than when I saw how good they are, I thought I’ll pass his
> link along to others. Chuck
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Slick-ECO-Scissor-Set-Arrow-All-Purpose-Hair-3-Scissors-ESA35-ESAP4-ESH45/142573543527?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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Re: [VFB] Hi Guys. Long time no post. :)

[Gary Webb]

Deb, great to hear from you again. Seems like we have a trend with people
checking back that have been away for a while.
  I agree about Tony's Froggies too. I have a couple that I got at the one
Sowbug  I attended several years ago.  For some reason seeing your name and
Peggy's reminded me of a Christmas Fly swap years ago. Were you or she in
it.?  I think I tied a dragonfly for that one.  My recollections aren't as
accurate
as they used to be. Or maybe they are. How can I tell!  LOL

Gary L Webb


On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 5:43 PM dsdur...@msn.com  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I can't remember ever using this forum but I'm testing it out to see if
> this post comes through. I took a very long break from tying publicly, I
> stepped back from the Whting team to work on my degree. A few of you were
> so encouraging and supportive of me while I worked my way through school.
> THANK YOU!!!  I still tie for my own fishing and fun but not as much as I
> would like to. I'm in a different pond now than I was used to so I'm
> adjusting to that also. I miss the salt water. I spend more time tying Hans
> CDC Elk hair caddis flies and timy trout flies... WOW what a change for
> me.  I finally have a new desk to set up and hopefully make a more
> comfortable place to tie for my self than out of boxes. I wanted to reach
> out and see how Don O was doing. He's been on my mind.  I've kept in touch
> with a few of you but I have stepped very far back from public tying while
> I put myself through school and joined the working world. Now I finally
> have some time for myself again and I have been thinking about so many of
> my friends that I haven't been able to keep in touch with as much as I
> would like to .For those of you who knew me you will remember me as Deb
> Duran.
> I hope all of you are well. Tony, I still love my froggies!!! I have read
> some updates on you and I hope all is going well for you this holiday.
> I've never lost touch with Peggy and I look forward to seeing you and
> Jerry this spring again.
> Now with any luck this will post. Happy Holidays to you all.
> Best,
> Deb Neuwirth
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Re: [VFB] What is in your vices?

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I've been tying Tenkara style flies.   I want to send them to good friend
that I met in the Navy 50 years ago  who now lives in Arizona.
He likes to spend a lot  of time alone out in the wilderness in different
parts of the state.  I know he would never be up for traditional fly
fishing. But I think Tenkara might appeal to his travel light philosophy.
I'm going to surprise him with a complete set up including flies.
Anyway that's my excuse for tying today. I'll have anew one tomorrow.

Gary


On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:13 PM Rene Zillmann 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> winter is approaching - at least in the northern part of the globe.
>
> What are you doing to tie next?
>
> I'll do 2 main things:
>
> I will ty a lot of my parachute beetles, but with different body colors,
> to the the effect of the various colors next year.
>
> And I'll do some variations for EHCs for a similar reason.
>
> And what are you doing?
>
>
> Rene
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Re: [VFB] Great news

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This is great news for sure. Stay well Tony.


On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 8:38 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> Tony Spezio is HOME!  At last!   It's been nearly 3 months.
>
> He's back on-line.
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

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Thanks Allan for the update on Tony. He and Dot are In our prayers.
Gary L Webb

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Tony is currently having some pretty severe complications.  He's been in
> the hospital for a week and will likely be in for at least another week
> then will have to go to a nursing home for rehab.  He preferred that I not
> go into details on the list.
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> *He has some requests for everyone*:
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> 1)NO CALLS TO HIS HOME -  Dot is getting overwhelmed with local
> calls and she is not in the best of shape either.
> 2)NO CALLS TO HIS CELL PHONE AT THIS TIME - he is having trouble
> talking and breathing and it totally exhausts him.
> 3)NO E-MAILS  AT THIS TIME -   Tony has no access to e-mails while
> he is in the hospital.  The last time he was in the hospital, he had
> received so many e-mails that he wasn't even able to read them and doesn't
> want that to happen again.  He hopes to be able to use his laptop once he
> gets in the rehab facility.
> 4)NO CARDS AT THIS TIME - they would have to go to the hospital
> and then get transferred, or they would go to his home and someone would
> have to go out there to get them and then bring them to him.
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> After Tony gets moved, he will let us know the best way to contact him.
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> If you pray, he appreciates being kept in our prayers.
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> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Byard Miller Birthday

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Happy birthday Byard.  Swap Meister of the100 caddis flys.  Which by simple
math meant you had to sort 10,000 flys.. WHEW!  I trust you never sneezed.
Gary

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> A big HAPPY one.
> Tony
> 
> On Fri, 6/8/18, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
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>  Subject: [VFB] Byard Miller Birthday
>  To: "Google Inc." 
>  Date: Friday, June 8, 2018, 9:40 AM
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>  It is our fearless leaders
>  birthday today. Have a
>  Happy one my Friend.
>  Rick
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Re: [VFB] Happy Birthday Chuck A

[Gary Webb]

Chuck, happy birthday young man.

Gary


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> Glad you made another trip around the sun. Hope for many more good ones.
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Re: [VFB] From Tony.

[Gary Webb]

Add mine too.  I just saw this because since my wife's injury I don't check
my email as often as I used to.



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> In case you haven't heard.  Here's a prayer request from Tony Spezio.
>
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>  Forwarded Message 
> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:34:23 + (UTC)
> From: Anthony Spezio  
> Reply-To: Anthony Spezio  
> To: Allan Fish  
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> Tried to post on VFB, Will you post.
> Trying to post this but it bounces.
> Tony
>
> We need some prayers . Our son was in an accident in Oklahoma on Saturday.
> multiple broken bones and head trauma with brain injury. Still not come
> too. Still is in ICU
> He lost a daughter,our grand daughter four  weeks ago.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Chico's footprints.

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A very nice remembrance.  Twenty some  years ago I started snipping the
"feathers"  from my Springers when they died. And then tying a couple of
streamers from them. They look great and I'm sure they would catch fish.But
I don't fish them.




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> Folks: As many of you know, we had to put our 15 yr old dog Chico to sleep
> about 10 days ago or so. Well, yesterday, we got the footprints thing in
> the mail shown in the attached here. And they had all 20 or so employees
> from that Vets office sign a "condolences card" along with this plaster
> cast of Chico's feet. Not many Vets would go to this trouble and we
> appreciate it a LOT, Chuck
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[VFB] Prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Dear VFB friends,

I am humbly asking for your prayers for my wife Susan.  Saturday morning
she suffered an injury to her spinal cord. Not life threatening, just life
changing. I can't give many details because the hospital where I work is
very strict about HIPPA compliance. One strike and you are out.
I can say that the  neurosurgeon has offered little hope that she would
regain any use of her legs. But as our pastor said earlier today: "God's
people are a people of hope."  So we are hoping and praying, and asking the
same of friends and family.

Gary

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Re: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD, Why I tie... and new RD DVD#2 option?

[Gary Webb]

I think the You Tube videos is a great idea.
A very satisfied owner of DVD # 1.  And if you finish DVD # 2  I will buy
it too.   A very small contribution to you retirement.

Gary L Webb

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> Fly tying can be a couple of nights a month to stock up on depleted
> favorite patterns, or a full-blown multi-faceted hobby, hobby-business,
> part-time business, or retirement business.
>
> If you include the satellite activities *besides *fishing, which include
> getting together with other tiers, attending fly shows (or tying at them),
> researching, publishing books or videos, mentoring, and of course vfb-ing,
> there's a lot to keep it diverse and interesting. When it gets boring, just
> add a new venue to the tying and challenge yourself to kick it up a notch.
> Or plan a new trip for different fish, and tie the flies needed for that.
> It should never ever get boring, especially if you include a sense of humor
> or art to the process.
>
> On materials, my challenge after this last move and re-organization is
> just finding what I need amongst the myriad of materials I've collected.
> But I have a plan for next year for retardment. My 'retirement' will really
> just mean swapping focus from the oil & gas business to Fantasy Flies and
> videos. I intend to get a shop and turn it into a fly-base of operations.
>
> Ahh, the *video*.  Rope-dub DVD#2.  Thinking of an alternate plan- put it
> out *for comments*.
>
> Instead of a long DVD which is taking forever to film and produce (*if* I
> can get any time), how about a You-tube channel with *themed* short
> videos uploaded regularly- not only on rope-dubbing (will go on forever),
> but on mice (deerhair), flex-o, McFlyfoam, #32's, salt-flies, streamers,
> etc.?
>
> Big difference is it would be *free* to all, which is how I handled it in
> the first place with Byard, putting the RD videos on his site for anyone to
> see (pretty crude at the time).  My pay would be with visits & subscribers-
> from Y-T. Then also I’d still be selling the giant Fantasy Flies, framed
> streamers, mice, etc. Hopefully make for a busy yet pleasant retirement.
>
> This way I could somewhat follow the comments in adjusting what I tie or
> show next and just let it evolve. Of course, there will be my sense of
> humor worked in throughout all of the videos to keep it from being all
> ‘dry’.
>
> And since I’m slowing way down in attending fly shows (travelling less and
> less), I’ll make a ‘Baits Hotel’ video just for giggles and grins (and to
> survive me).
>
> Comments? (Especially from those who have DVD #1.)
>
> DonO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Allan Fish
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: p.s.: Re: [VFB] QFTD
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> p.s.:
> I also like to be around other fly tyers.  You get to meet so many neat
> people.
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> And the occasional scalawag like me.
>
> Allan
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[VFB] FLY--ing Fisihing

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Sorry for your great loss.  Favorite uncles and aunts are great blessings
to have.  Prayers for you and your family


On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Chuck Alexander <
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> Folks: Below is a note I just sent to a friend about my Uncle Grady who
> passed away this morning. Please keep my Aunt Ann, his two daughters and
> three sons in your prayers especially. The whole family actually as Grady
> was like the patriark of the family and was/is beloved  dearly by the whole
> family. He fought the good fight, but as 2 Corinthians 5:8 says he’s now
> “Absent from the body, but present with the Lord” Thanks, Chuck
>
> “On a sad note, one of  my Uncles died early this morning. He was my
> favorite Uncle in fact. My Aunt is devastated of course, (She is a twin to
> my Aunt Jan, but we were raised more as brother and Sister as they are only
> 4 yrs older than I am) and even though Grady was my Uncle by marriage, he’s
> been married to my aunt Ann for about 38 yrs or more. We have to go to East
> GA right near Atlanta in Douglassville for the viewing tomorrow night and
> the funeral is Monday at 1 pm.
>
> Grady had had prostate cancer and it had come back. Then, he fell last
> week and had to have surgery on his shoulder and had two broken ribs as
> well as a cpl other pretty  bad bangs and they think he may have thrown a
> blood clot from the shoulder surgery, or that his body was just so drug
> out from all the cancer treatment that his body just couldn’t take it.
> Either way, he’s no longer in the severe pain he’s been in for the past yr
> or two. Chuck”
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Re: [VFB] Looking for new #12-14 hopper/cricket patterns

[Gary Webb]

Ed Herbst's pattern works well for me.

http://www.tomsutcliffe.co.za/fly-fishing/fly-tying/item/211-tying-ed-herbsts-hopper.html

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Barrett  wrote:

> RAINY'S HI-VIS GRAND HOPPER
>
> BIG SECRET HOPPER
>
> FURIMSKY'S "HOT LEGS HOPPER"
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jul 4, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Pete Gramp  wrote:
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> There's an area of Maine, USA that I'll be fishing this summer where the
> adjacent farmlands are supposed to be harvested just a week prior to my
> fishing.  Even though I can't wade this go of it (and it's "bugging" me
> that's the case), I figure that the hoppers and/or crickets will make their
> typical migration down to the water because of the farms' harvests, so I
> should be tying up the same-sized terrestrials as past years.
>
> Not that past years' patterns didn't work well (namely a modified 'letort
> cricket' in pale yellow- rusty-olive with a dyed candy-apple-red hackle
> tail, and then a pink-craft-store-foam 'baby boy hopper', both relatively
> small, in size 12 to 14), but I always have a desire to try new patterns.
> Anyone have some favorite hopper or cricket patterns that might be new to
> me?
>
> I heard that one of the magazines (perhaps "fly fisherman"?) has a feature
> on Hoppers this latest issue, but I've yet to read / get it, and see if
> there are patterns in there.
>
> Happy Fourth of July to everyone in USA,
> -Pete
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Re: [VFB] 14 Poppers arrived

[Gary Webb]

Echo, echo, echo.

Gary L Webb

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Bob Hendry  wrote:

>  My Dear Mr. Fish,
>
> The package arrived yesterday with 14 of the coolest poppers ever!
>
> A sincere thank you to you for all of the efforts you put into this.  Much
> appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Bob Hendry 
> Southern Maryland
>
>
> "A gun is like a parachute: if you need one, but don't have one, you'll never 
> need one again."
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Re: [VFB] What Guides Do you Like?

[Gary Webb]

Jack,

  I think you might find this article interesting regarding the number and
sizes of guides :
http://www.grtu.org/newsletters/april1997/GUIDROD.APR.htm



On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Jack Harford 
wrote:

> I have a 7wt 2 piece Tiger Eye Blank that I'm thinking about building and
> am sorting through some of the different fly rod guides out there.
>
> Has anyone used the Snake Brand Universal guides?   The talk about them
> seems to be good, but they are more expensive? Or how about Hook and Hackle
> guides or Pac Bay?
>
> I have seen a recommendation to use no more than 2 sizes of guides on a
> rod and other recommendations for as many as 5 different sizes on a 9 ft.
> rod. What do you think??
>
> And the sizes seem to be different for each brand, for example Snake Brand
> #1 is 4.44 mm and Hookhack and Pac Bay are 5.1mm.
>
> Is larger or smaller better or just different??
>
> Thanks,
> Jack - a beginner rod builder :)
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Re: [VFB] Hook trade wanted.

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

Here's another fly that you might be interested in tying with a 37160.  A
bit more complex than a San Juan Worm.  But nothing you can't handle.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/advanced/



On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Neville: I ordered them in size 8 tonight for bluegill as we don’t have
> any trout where I’m at, so we’ll see if they catch bluegill/bass, or
> crappie coming soon I hope. Chuck
>
>  *From:* Neville Gosling 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:25 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Hook trade wanted.
>
>  I have some of the 37160 hooks but they are size 1/0 and were favoured
> for a steelhead nymph fly some 30 odd years ago. I tied several of the
> flies but never caught anything on them.
>
> Nev
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>   I just now went ahead and ordered some of these hooks online. Thanks
> for the ppl’s responses anyway. Has anybody tried this type “San Juan Worm”
> tied on these type hooks?? If so, any luck??? Thanks, Chuck
>
>  *From:* Chuck Alexander 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:35 PM
> *To:* fly fishing for panfish
>  ;
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> *Subject:* [VFB] Hook trade wanted.
>
>   Folks: I am in need of a few Mustad (or other brand) Classic 37160
> (shown here http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mustad-classic-37160-fly-hook  )
> hooks in a size 6-10, with a preference of  sized 6 and 8. I have some bass
> hooks, kinked back popper hooks, saltwater hooks (stainless steel) etc that
> I will trade hook for hook if somebody will trade with Me. I want to tie
> some copper wire and peacock herl “San Juan Worm” patterns I saw tied on
> these hooks as I have never had much luck with the traditional San Juan
> Worm flies.
>
> The other day, when digging up some old dead plants from my raised beds in
> the garden, found a lot of wigglers and red worms, so I thought about using
> those on a bare hook and casting them as an :” Alabama Juan Worm” fly
> LOL... Contact me OFF LIST to see if we can work a trade. I’d like to have
> about 25-100 in different sizes if possible,mix or match if possible and
> will trade other types of materials. The hooks as you can see, are $9.50
> per hundred, which is mot much by itself, but since I want nix or match, it
> could run up quite a bill for ones I may or may not ever use, which is why
> I’d rater trade for them if possible.
>
> Or, I’d buy 50-100 (or however many you have  so I can at least try out
> the pattern I’m wanting to try) mix or match from you outright, and will
> pay more if you have a brand that is more expensive than the Mustad shown
> in the link I have attached. I have all sorts of materials, but especially
> chenille and rubber (silli) legs in particular to trade for them if you
> don’t need/want more hooks. Thanks, Chuck
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net
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Re: [VFB] Attn. Tony.. White water demon fly question??

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

This is one from the early years of the VFB.   I can't remember Dick's last
name.  I want to say Stock, or Stockton.  Maybe somebody here remembers.
Anyway, it is an easy fly to tie and does work well.


*Dick's Dandy:*


 *#8 3XL streamer hook*

*Tail  Red hackle tail 3/8" long.*

*body9 strands of peacock herl spun into a chenille.*

*beard   red hackle tied down. *

*wingWhite over black bucktail (Sparse)  Do not let the wing extend
*

*past the bend of the hook more than 1/8"or the fly will foul.*





*This fly MUST be fished with a sinking tip line.  Adding split shot ruins
the *

*action of the fly.  Use short and long strips with long pauses.  The fish *

*will most offen take on the pause.  The fly will suspend if tied
correctly.  *

*It's a simple fly to tie but very effective.*

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Tony, I was just watching your DVD’s again to get some ideas and have a
> question about the White Water Demon fly. Do you (or others) report
> catching a lot of crappie with that fly?? Reason I ask is because I think
> with that pearlescent  white chenille body, the flashabou in the tail, then
> the red threaded collar, (which would look like tiny gills on the minnow I
> think) it would look just like a Missouri shiner minnow swimming through
> the water and most ppl around here fish with either those minnows, or a
> white on white jig to catch the most crappie with and we are planning to do
> some crappie fishing at night IF it will ever stop raining here LOL..
> Thanks, Chuck
>
> Also, does anybody else here have a “Crappie killer” pattern they tie???
> If so, can you share it with me/us?? Thanks...
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Chuck we have you covered.   Good advice from your friends here.  I think
most ortho surgeons would want you to be seen by a neurologist before your
operation.  In cases like yours it should be a team effort.

Gary

PS:  I'll be sending my swap  material to you this week.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging
> discs all total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch
> on my new  PT Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked.
> Anyway, crawling around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps
> and/or jack stands was a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right
> leg, from the knee to my toes, and my right thumb and index finger were
> both sound asleep. Not pins and nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had
> just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes and digits all day, but the feeling
> didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and when it did, it went from numb, to
> pins and needles, then to pain, and even now, my fingers are all good, but
> the back of my right calf feels like a mule kicked it.
>
> So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back
> surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and
> that, combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed
> a rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor
> enough that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked
> had I ever been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had
> seen a lot of docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery
> as I knew a lot of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before,
> and our pastor;s wife in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six
> MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV
> now that say they can (depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2”
> to 1” incision, and have you up and walking a little the next day, what
> with micro and/or laser surgery etc.
>
> Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything,
> or it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising
> not to mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already
> hurts like crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles.
> It got so bad recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow
> Bug, we had to cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000
> round trip drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if
> I did make it. Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that
> whatever it has to be, whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the
> problem, and I’ll have a speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I
> just bought both my grand daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box
> filled with tackle, and they want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing
> soon as the water warms up a little and I surely want to take them too.
> Because of moving, and my stomach problems last yr, it’s been going on four
> yrs since I was able to have a full fishing season’s worth of fishing, and
> I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms here LOL... I can’t even sit in
> place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at a time without having to get
> up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Materials Swap

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

  Sign me up too.

Gary L Webb

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Jack Harford 
wrote:

> Hi Chuck
> I'd like to join the materials swap.
> Tight lines
> Jack
> On Jan 11, 2015 6:16 PM, "Chuck Alexander" 
> wrote:
>
>>   Folks: I am going to try and get a materials swap going. I need ten
>> ppl in the swap if possible. I have two so far, Allan Fish and Myself.
>> Please read the “rules” below carefully before signing up as this may or
>> may not be how it was done in previous materials swaps. Deadline to have
>> the materials to have them to me will be March 25th, which gives you over
>> two months which should be plenty of time as you don’t have to tie any
>> flies unless you just wish to put some with your materials as a “bonus”.
>>
>> Get some of the little (or big) zip lock bags from Michaels, Hobby Lobby,
>> or any other craft stores that sell them. They are very cheap, as in about
>> $2 a pack at my Hobby Lobby. Put your material or materials in these bags,
>> and make SURE and put a paper or sticker with your name on it, so I know
>> who sent me what so I don’t “short change” anybody inadvertently. Here’s
>> the deal though. You’ll need to send 10 different bags.
>>
>> Take your materials and for example, if you have ten yards of chenille to
>> swap, cut it into ten equal lengths, and bag those up. If you have two or
>> more different materials you can or want to send in, you can put them each
>> in separate bags, or put all your materials in the same bag, but just like
>> I said, make SURE and label your bags with your name so I don’t short
>> anybody or get the materials all  confused like I said earlier. And if, for
>> example, you wish to swap ten spools of thread, but don’t have ten spools
>> of all black. If that’s the case, you can send 5 each of two colors, or 10
>> of ten different colors, or however you  have to “mix and match it”
>>
>> In this swap, Just send your materials in the normal envelope of box, but
>> I sill spring for the return envelopes as I may need huge ones, or I may
>> need small ones depending on how much stuff the swappers send in, how bulky
>> it is etc. I understand that some tiers have much more materials than
>> others, but whatever you wish to send is fine. The idea is that I may have
>> a bunch of hackles that are great hackles, but maybe I don’t use that
>> particular color and maybe you have materials that are fine, but may be
>> exactly what others tie a lot of etc.  The minimum is one material per
>> swapper, but send as much as you can, or wish to send.  Sorry for writing
>> rule BOOK here, but I want everybody to understand the rules before
>> committing to signing up. Any questions just email me.
>>
>>
>> Send materials to along with a cpl bucks as per usual to help cover
>> return postage. Like I said, I’ll buy the return packages after I get all
>> the materials and see which size I need to buy:
>> Chuck Alexander
>> 4730 Nubbin Creek Road
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Re: [VFB] Denny Conrad - A tribute from Jimmy D and Jeff Hines

[Gary Webb]

Thanks for telling us that.  You and Jeff are "one heck of a nice guy"
yoursevles!

Gary Webb


On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Neville Gosling 
wrote:
>
>
> I like this
>
> Denny was my guest and all his expenses were waived because I put him on
> the Philmont Fishing Committee.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jimmy D. Moore 
> To: Virtual Fly Box 
> Cc: ray...@earthlink.net, Jeff Hines 
> Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:12:06 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: [VFB] Denny Conrad - A tribute  from Jimmy D and Jeff Hines
>
> Hi Gang!
>
> I'm sure you're aware that Denny Conrad passed away last week.  Denny
> was one heck of a nice guy. I met him at Sow Bug and later invited him
> to spend a week with me at Philmont Scout Ranch fishing for rainbow
> trout in the Rayado, my favorite little river.  Denny was my guest and
> all his expenses were waived because I put him on the Philmont Fishing
> Committee.  All Denny had to do was pay his way to and from his home in
> Washington.  He took the bus.  I picked him up at 4:00 a.m. at the
> Raton, NM at an all night restaurant. Ugh!
>
> Denny wasn't aware of my ultimate purpose in getting him to Philmont,
> but Jeff Hines was.  You see, Denny lost his Eagle Scoout badge back in
> 1941 but never said too much about it.  Anyway Jeff let me know  and I
> suggested we get another Eagle and re-present it during the week at
> Philmont.  Jeff, who lives in Carrollton, TX  and I got with National
> BSA and they checked it out and all was kosher, so they sent the Eagle
> Badge to me.  I presented it to Denny at the opening banquet of the
> Fishing Invitational. Blew Denny totally away.  It was a very moving
> experience for all of us,  Denny was spechless.
>
> Yours in Scouting,
>
> JIMMY D
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Re: [VFB] Trickle charger for my marine deep cycle battery

[Gary Webb]

Hi Chuck,

>From working in a hospital  I've had the opportunity to become familiar
with batteries of every variety from A (alkaline) to Z (zinc-air).
My experience with lead-acid batteries is this:  They do well when they are
on a trickle charge all the time.  They don't do well with being
completely discharged, except the ones designed as "deep cycle"..  But this
website is much smarter than me and has info about charging levels. Hope it
helps.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_the_lead_acid_battery

Gary Webb


On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
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>   Folks: This coming Spring (barring more health problems etc) my wife
> and I plan  to go fishing at LEAST a cpl times per week. My question is
> about a trickle charger for my deep cycle battery I use to power my
> trolling motors (we use two to get to where across the lake and back,then
> the foot controlled one to troll the shoreline hunting for bluegills and/or
> bass “on the bed”. Anyway,, till now, I have to heft my 50-60 pound battery
> into my workshop, put it on the 2 amp setting on my 2/6/55/jumpstart big
> battery charger, then lug it back into the back of the boat to go fishing
> again. It’s been either that, or risking the charger getting rained on and
> ruined, or electrocuting somebody. Anyway, this charger from Harbor freight
> in the hyperlink below is a 3/4 amp trickle charger/maintainer.
>
> What I’m wondering is (even if it takes a cpl days to do it) is will this
> little charger charger my 105 amp hour battery?? The manual with it says
> it’s for batteries that are from 5 to 125 ah batteries. The 125 is more
> than the max 105 listed, but I have read where ppl say YES it will charge
> my battery, and others say NO it won’t. Truth probably lies in the middle
> as in like I said, I think it will, but may take up to a cpl days to do so,
> depending on how drained the battery is. Anybody here tried a charger like
> this?? Reason I want this is because I plan to make a “bass boat” out of my
> jon boat be decking it with plywood in the front and back, so we have a
> place to stand up while fishing as my back starts to hurt if I sit all day,
> so I plan to “permanently” mount this charger on my stern plywood piece, so
> that all I have to do it run the extension cord to the boat and let er rip.
> Thanks a lot. Chuck
>
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-deluxe-battery-maintainer-and-float-charger-61911.html
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Re: [VFB] RE:Christmas fly patterns

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Not anything helpful but your request reminded me that we  had a Christmas
colors fly swap.I believe the swap was meistered by a VFB member in the
UK.  Can't remember his name though.

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> I saw a Christmas Tree on Facebook last year. It was tyed from Green Deer
> Hair.
> Tony
>
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>   On Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:03 PM, "'wayneb22...@yahoo.com' via VFB
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> Hi All;
> Anyone know of any Christmas related fly patterns?
> Thanks in advance;
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Re: [VFB] Dry fly treatment

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I bought some of the arrow powder several years ago.  Still have some
left.  Try using it on nymphs or emergers too.  Traps air bubbles and
sometimes makes them more effective.

Gary Webb

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Wes Wada  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Try arrow (archery) fletching powder. It's the same thing though tons
> cheaper. I get it at our local Sportsman's Warehouse store. Anybody
> carrying archery supplies would have it.
>
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon
>
>
> On Thursday, November 6, 2014, Michael B Bliss 
> wrote:
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>> As I have been fishing the past few times with the dries working so well,
>> I have been using Frog’s Fannie dress the flies.  I noticed that I am about
>> out.  What do you all use?
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [VFB] Re: Popper Swap - Anybody in a hurry?

[Gary Webb]

Cee for me.  i can wait.  Tony will be back.

Gary Webb
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Peggy Brenner 
wrote:

> I'll get mine in early, we are traveling this year as we just retired. Of
> course my fly tying took a more pro look for the streamer part and I have
> orders like never before, enough to cover our property taxes. so I'll stay
> in that realm till I'm 70 as a small business.
>
> For this trip Jerry is heading to Tybee island GA for December with the
> dogs and cats, I fly down for the holidays and then we are moving to
> Titusville FL for January and February. I have to fly back home as I'm
> presenting at 2 fly fishing shows for the first time, and am returning
> south after the big Somerset show. Then we are traveling over to Arkansas
> for Sowbug and west to NM, heading home first of April.We should pass
> through Indi on the way.
>
> I have a apprentice through our local council for the arts so have a
> requirement to teach on a regular basis, otherwise we would be making the
> great circle trip. We started with streamers, next classic bass and final
> flies are classic salmon.
>
> Peggy
>
>
> On 10/24/2014 3:32 PM, Allan Fish wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> PLEASE reply directly to me, NOT on the list.
>>
>> "There's a Problem in River City."  (Wasn't that from The Music Man?)
>> Actually, there IS a problem in river city, and the river city is
>> Flippin, Arkansas.
>>
>> Tony Spezio took a bad tumble last week and messed up his rotator cuff
>> badly. He has to have his right arm in a sling for at least a month.
>> Then he's going to have to build up some strength before he can get back
>> to the tying bench (and rod building bench).  And he is one frustrated
>> individual.  To top it off they have to make a rush trip to Oklahoma -
>> Dot's brother-in-law is near terminal.
>>
>> I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm willing to delay the swap
>> deadline by a couple or three months to be sure Tony gets to participate.
>>
>> PLEASE let me know what each of you think.  I could set the deadline to
>> the end of January or even the end of February.  That will give some of
>> the group who like to procrastinate (like me) more time to figger out
>> exactly what you want to do and then time to get it done when it's too
>> cold to get out and wet a line.
>>
>> As I said in the first line, reply directly to me.  Please do NOT put it
>> out on the list.  This is at Tony's request. He'd really prefer to keep
>> his problems more private.
>>
>> Let me know what you think:
>> a)End of November (Tony will definitely have to drop out of the swap)
>> b)End of January (Tony might be able to be in)
>> c)End of February (Tony should be able to be in the swap by then).
>>
>> FYI - I already have one vote for (c).  (My vote)
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Allan
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [VFB] llama fur?

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My wife's sister has a two or three llamas.  I'll be at her farm this
weekend installing hardwood flooring.  Maybe I can get some wool for you
for my efforts.

Gary Webb

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> What is a good source to get llama or alpaca fur that has not been
> processed?
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> Thanks
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Re: [VFB] Gettin there

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Put my name on the list.  I needed a good reason to get back to my vise.
Gary L Webb


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

>  9/16" of the way.  7 openings left
>
> (Remember - you only have to tie 15 poppers.)
>
> 6:15 p.m. EDT, 8/16/14
>
> Popper swap entries.
>
>
>
>  1.  Al Fish – Cork popper of some variety
>  2.  Chuck Alexander
>  3.  Peggy Brenner
>  4.  Jerry Caruso
>  5.  Rene Zillman
>  6.  Bob Hendry
>  7.  Wayne Blake-Hedges
>  8.  Rick Zieger – Foam Bee popper
>  9.  Tony Spezio – Cork Poppers covered with Mylar Braid
> 10.
> 11.
> 12.
> 13.
> 14.
> 15.
> 16.
>
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Re: Fwd: [VFB] Are we too Old? SURVEY

[Gary Webb]

Gary Webb 67


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> Jimmy, you are a youngster, I am pushing 85, not quite there yet but you
> can call me 84.
> Tony
>
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>   On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:38 PM, Peggy Brenner <
> peggy.bren...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
>
> Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known VFB
> surveys.  OK?? Could be fun.
>   Add your name.  Could also liven things up a little and age below:
> JIMMY D
>
>   Just fall in line, don't be embarrassed .:-!
> Jimmy D. 77 :-P
> Tony Spezio --
> Denny Conrad--
> Allan fish--
> Peggy Brenner--65
>
>
> AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.
>
> Allan Fish wrote:
> > On 8/5/14, 9:16 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote:
> >> Guess you are saying I am onew of the old guys, since I am on VFB.
> >>
> >> Rick
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> >
> > No, Rick,
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Re: Site name needed?? EP feathers

[Gary Webb]

This fly tying fanatic is still lurking.

Gary L Webb


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> I still need emperor penguin feathers
>
> Reuven
>
> DonO
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Allan Fish
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:15 AM
> To: VFB
> Subject: [VFB] Fwd: Re: Site name needed??
>
> Jerry,
>
> I forgot the Chuck asked the question on two sites.  I replied on the
> other one (panfish).
>
> Http://www.onthevise.com
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> You can sort the database by materials.
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> It's an offshoot of the Flytying Forum
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Re: [VFB] speckled legs

[Gary Webb]

I got one, and I have managed not to lose it so far.

Gary L Webb


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> Mike your legs will go out today.
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> Did everyone get a fly in their package.  Or did I tie to many?
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Re: [VFB] barred legs update

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Except for your post I would have thrown mine away still in the bottom of
the envelope.  I was surprised at the amount of legs.  I plan to give some
away to sons-in-law and friends. Thanks Rick.

Gary


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> Chuck  your legs went in the mail today.
> Hope the rest of you found the fly in our envelope.
> Done well with it on pan fish and a friend caught trout on it.
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> Rick
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Re: [VFB] barred legs update

[Gary Webb]

Sorry.  I received mine within two days of your sending.

Gary Webb


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> I have heard from 3 swappers that they have received the legs?
> Please let me know ehn you ge them.
>
>
>
> 1. Rick Zieger   received
> 2. Tony Spezio  received
> 3 Kevin Harris .
> 4 Alan Fish  received
> 5. Wayne Blake Hedges
> 6. Ohiofisherman6
> 7. Chuck Alexander
> 8, Gary Webb
> 9. Bob Hendry  received
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Re: [VFB] Barred legs swap

[Gary Webb]

Didn't feel even a twinge.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

>  OUCH, Rick.  Did they yell a lot?
>
> Duckin' and Runnin'.
> al
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Re: [VFB] Barred legs swap

[Gary Webb]

My payment was sent Monday.

Gary L Webb


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> Ok;
>
> will get the cash in the mail Monday.
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> Wayneb
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>   Got the legs in.   Cost will be $6.50.
> Send to Rick Zieger
>  28433 N State
> Lamoni,  Ia  50140
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> . Rick Zieger
> 2. Tony Spezio
> 3 Kevin Harris
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Re: [VFB] Barred legs

[Gary Webb]

Sign me up too.
Gary L Webb


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> This is who I have listed.  Anyone else interested?
> 1. Rick Zieger
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Re: [VFB] Barred legs

[Gary Webb]

Put me down as interested too.

Gary L Webb


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> Found a place to get barred legs for $35/lb.
>
> these are the interested folks so far.  any more?
> Barred legs
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Fishing in the rain

[Gary Webb]

Maybe with fiberglass rods, or bamboo.


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM,  wrote:

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> Good reason to stay indoors and dry.
> Gary
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> Wanna go fishing in the rain??
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> http://imgur.com/gallery/F1S8M
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Re: [VFB] RE:Value of a good day fishing

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Good news Wayne!  Most of us can say: "Been there. Done that." And if you
have one who is just smart enough to know that they are incompetent, they
become paranoid that they will be found out. Not fun.  Makes you really
want to go fishing everyday! Not that I don't anyway, but you know what I
mean.

Gary L Webb





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> Hi All;
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> I've been dealing with incompetent management at work for some time. I
> came back to work today after taking yesterday off to go fishing and both
> screwups have been removed.
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> Moral of the story, a fishing trip can truly solve all your problems! AND,
> a great reason to go fishing!
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> Suddenly elated;
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Re: [VFB] Lost my beloved dog and fishing partner Peanut today after nearly 15 yrs.

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

Susan and I share your  loss.  Within the last year and a half we had our
two Springers Tess and Toby die of cancer.
They both were nearly 14 when they died. Lots of pawprint memories.

Gary



On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Chuck Alexander <
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>   Folks: It’s been a pretty rough day or two (more like week or two) for
> us well. I lost my beloved dog, and fishing partner Chihuahua “Peanut”
> today at about 2pm this afternoon.  Any time we hitched up the boat, or
> started loading fishing gear into the car, she thought she HAD to go with
> us. She had a cancer that started in her hips/spine. then spread to her
> intestines,and her lymph nodes in her neck. And she was 15 yrs old, which
> is VERY old for just about any breed of dog, even those like Chihuahua's
> that tend to live long lives.  You KNOW in your head they cannot live
> forever, but you hope in your heart that they will got get when she was 5
> weeks old  back on the about the 4th of July weekend. She had those tumors,
> but they said she basically just “died of old age”. That is the one think
> thing that makes us feel better is because she did lave a LONG, happy life,
> and was hardly ever sick a day in her life.
> She would have turned 15 this June 8th.  All the Vets could do was to make
> her comfortable, as I didn’t want to have to put her to sleep unless she
> was in a lot of pain. They had her on pain meds and steroids, and that made
> her last days a LOT better, but it’s close like losing a kid to me and my
> wife as we had her longer than any dog in our lives.  Attached is a pic of
> her and I out fishing near the “jetties” in Panama City Bch FL in the Fall
> of 1999 when she was just a little puppy.  Chuck
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[VFB] Fwd: UV cements

[Gary Webb]

There are different "mixes" available.  Pick the one that fits your needs.

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 http://www.clearcuregoo.com/



Nice video for a ant.



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Re: [VFB] I need step by step instructions to tie this fly

[Gary Webb]

It wasn't me.   For the eyes I like to use the plastic bead chain you can
get from Hobby Lobby and other crafty places. The foam cylinder will
provide more floatation.




On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Chuck Alexander <
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>   Folks: I found this awesome looking, realistic looking blue dragonfly
> while going through some boxes of materials today. if I tied it, it must
> have been on one of my best days LOL, because outside of the "mussed up"
> Poly Yarn wing material (mussed up because I failed to store it properly,
> NT because it wasn't tied properly). it looks identical to the blue
> dragonflies we have on the lakes, rivers, creeks, ponds etc around here in
> the Summertime. And I have been reading the book "Sunfishes" by Jack Ellis,
> the late, great sun fisherman from Texas, and he shows in that book how,
> when these dragonflies are seen on the water, instead of flying around, or
> landing on bush branches, it's because that's when they are laying their
> eggs, and that's when you see every sun/panfish from bluegills, to crappie,
> to large mouth bass, POP them right off the water. This is why I think that
> if I start now, I can have myself a good amount tied up for when this
> happens in my part of the country in June and July mostly. But, I nee a
> site/video that can give me step by step instruction f anybody knows where
> one can be found. . And, the other day, my wife bought me a bunch of peel
> and stick 2mm craft foam at Hobby Lobby and they come in "metalflake"
> colors, and there is a blue metal flake she bought that (to me) looks even
> more like the "real McCoy" than this solid blue one does, if that is
> possible . Like I said, I don't remember tying this fly, and if I did, it
> probably wouldn't look half as good as this one does, so hopefully this
> email will reach the person who actually tied this one. I hope so as you
> did one heck of a great job. The eyes appear to be made of a short 1/16"
> cylinder (that I now have the cutters for to make these thankfully) and the
> body appears to be "doubled over, and then has the segments tied every 1/8"
> of so with black thread, with the wings tied in between two of those
> segments. I don't think it's really that "hard" to tie, but one that, if
> you don't get your steps in the EXACT order, you'll have to start over from
> square one, and I'm a pro at doing that mess up LOL..  Thanks in advance.
> Chuck
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Re: [VFB] happy birthday Jimmy Moore

[Gary Webb]

Happy birthday Jimmy D.  Hope you get to fish the Rayado many times this
season.

Gary L Webb


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> Happy BD
>
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Re: [VFB] RE:Doing a wee bit of tying

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

Mouser, or Digikey will have those grabbers.
Or check eBay  "mini grabbers" in electronics
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xelectronics%2C+mini+grabber&_nkw=electronics%2C+mini+grabber&_sacat=0&_from=R40


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Wayne: Lookin' good. I think (KNOW) our bluegill, specially from late
> April through May and even later (the Spawn) you drop one of those over a
> bluegill and/or shell cracker, or bass, or crappie nest, they'll KILL em.
> And BTW. This is for you, or anybody. Where can I get those "push button
> fly holders"?? I know that are actually made for some other reason right???
> But like tonight, I was painting some tiny jig heads different colors with
> fingernail polish and I'd have to set up another vise or three and clamp
> them in those, and paint them, wait to put on a second coat etc. But if I
> had about a dozen of those (or better still a rotating wheel LOL) I could
> churn em out a LOT faster, and a LOT more easily. And what do those things
> usually cost, so I know if I find a good deal or not, if I buy them from
> say, eBay etc??   I thought about something like AK Best's "third hand"
> which is just a clothes pin that is glued or fixed to the table and acts as
> just that, a third hand. But what I was going to do it to cut myself a
> piece of say, 2" by 4" (for the weight and stability), then glue about a
> dozen clothespins in the vertical position then glue them to the board,
> thus acting as "clamps" for things like these jigs. But the things you are
> using there would be much better I think. Thanks, Chuck
>
>
>  *From:* wayneb22...@yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 7:10 PM
> *To:* virtual flybox 
> *Subject:* [VFB] RE:Doing a wee bit of tying
>
>
> Tying some beads ants this evening:
>
> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] RE: thread diameters

[Gary Webb]

If we could just have a thread that is finer than a human hair and stronger
than a steel cable  I think the threads we now have available are
excellent.
Fingers (sense of touch) are a great way to measure.  You can feel the
difference in thickness between one and two pieces of cigarette paper.
Probably even finer. Pretty amazing.


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Thomas R. Eckert
wrote:

> I "Mensuren" with my Fingers, for my tying purposes it is precise enough.
>
> Thomas
> (Von Unterwegs gesendet)
>
>
> Am 24.02.2014 um 02:24 schrieb "wayneb22...@yahoo.com" <
> wayneb22...@yahoo.com>:
>
> There's probably some way to optically measure it, like comparing known
> line widths with a low power microscope or something.
>
> Hmm, has me thinking.
>
> Wayneb
>
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>   Wayne,  understood. But measuring OD on  crushable material is
> difficult. Try it yourself.  How many measurements do you average?  Is the
> uniformity sufficient that measurements at a given point agree with
> measurements a yard away or 5 yards away or..
>
> Maybe you should come up with a new standard for thread measurements - BH
> Units.
>
> Get out yr old micrometer and go for it.
>
> Al
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Re: [VFB] Foam Popper head punch set needed???

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

  Take a look at these.  I met Steve several years ago at the Badger Fly
Fishers Spring Opener. He is not sleazy.  LOL
I would have gone to this year's Opener which was yesterday, but I got  to
do things with our grandchildren.

http://www.jvlnet.com/~swinters/


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:34 PM,  wrote:

>
> Chuck:
>   As I mentioned earlier, I got my punches from Harry Steeves several
> years ago.  They are really heavy duty, industrial type punches, ranging
> from 1/8 to 3/4 inch diameter.  Not sure if Harry had them made
> specifically for him to sell.  There's no brand anywhere on them.  You
> might want to check some of the on-line catalogs that sell industrial or
> professional type tools.  These were certainly designed to cut something
> heavier than foam.  I use the brass more often than not.  I've got 9mm,
> .357, .38-40, .44-40 and .45 Colt, plus I sacrificed some shot-gun shells
> to get to the brass. .410, 16 ga, 20 ga and 12 ga.  Just like a knife they
> need to be sharpened.  Just do a couple of file strokes around the inside
> of the casing and you should be cutting right through the foam without a
> problem.
>
> Jerry
>
> - Original Message -
> I am looking for a set like the one shown in the photo on this page below.
> But. This guy mentioned putting sections of brass tubing that has been
> sharpened with a grinder and/or dremel tool, and drilling them out. I have
> a 1/2" chuck sized drill press, and with a wooden backing, I bet the
> drilling would be MUCH cleaner than the punching with a hammer.. Right
> Or like I said, if anybody has a better idea, I'm be grateful. Thanks
> again, Chuck
>
>
> http://rxflyfishing.com/2013/03/27/flip-flop-foam-popper-heads/
>
> From: Chuck Alexander
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:41 PM
> To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Foam Popper head punch set needed???
>
> Can anybody tell me where to buy a good set of Foam Popper head punches??
> I have been using brass spent gun cartridge shells, but even using a wooden
> backing, they dull pretty quickly. Or, does anybody have a stainless steel
> (or whatever they are made of) cpl of these that you'd sell me?? I need
> them in, say a  1/4", 3/8", or 7/16" diameter. or  8,9, and 10 mm would be
> just as good. Thanks, Chuck
>
> ORR Can somebody tell me if I'm doing something wrong that is
> dulling the brass shells after about 8-10 popper heads to the point that
> they start just "tearing" the foam, instead of punching it cleanly
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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed...

[Gary Webb]

Nick,

  Our condolences and prayers to you and your family.

Gary L Webb


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Niclas (Gmail) wrote:

> Thank you for your prayers guys. Maybe they did a difference. This morning
> he was quite alert and didn't settle for his youghurt, but wanted to have
> the second half of my sisters shrimp sandwich too. During the day he was
> like I said earlier... nothing or a little better, but not worse. But a
> couple of hours ago I got that international phone call from my sister that
> I was afraid of...
>
> He had felt pretty good during his last day. It was not like that horrible
> night when I was with him. He just didn't wake up from that nap. Maybe it
> was your prayers...
>
> Thanks.
>
> /Nick
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, J Mck  wrote:
>
>> Nick
>>
>> Our prayers are with you all.
>>
>>
>> Jerry McKaughan
>> P.O. Box 85
>> Pottsville, AR 72858
>> www.caddisflyfishers.org
>>
>>
>>   On Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:17 AM, Niclas (Gmail) <
>> n.runars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>   Just been in England for two weeks, where the sister of my (English)
>> fiancé has got a stage 4 lung cancer. She was going to get married before
>> she got too weak and we were attending it. But this mail isn't about her...
>> yet.
>> Three days after coming home from England I was at work when I got a
>> phone call... "Your father is really really sick now." So I just packed my
>> bags again and booked a ticket to Iceland, where I have my (Icelandic)
>> father's side of the family. He's got a stage 4 prostate cancer and has now
>> been placed at a hospice in Kopavogur. Lately his health has been like a
>> roller coaster and he has gone in and out of hospital. Now he had gotten an
>> infection and was also constantly losing blood.
>> His cancer had now spread to the bones and the treatment didn't do
>> anything anymore. But an alternate treatment was planned, though he had to
>> be both stronger and more stabile than he was for the moment. So he hadn't
>> been placed at that hospice for the same reason as the other patients
>> there, to get as much life quality in their last days. It was just better
>> for him to be there for now.
>> I had been there for 5 days and my sister for 2 and we sat alone with
>> him. The fever rised and everything got worse. The situation reached the
>> level where the nurses got other faces, offered us a book with the title
>> "At The End" to prepare us... and finally also offered us a priest to help
>> us with support. And when people with extensive experience of dying
>> patients are doing things like that... you more or less know what to expect
>> and we called his fiancé and my other sister. So for a couple of hours we
>> all then sat there looking at his breathing and wondering if there would
>> come another breath after that... when he suddenly stopped moaning and
>> started to breath normally again and finally fell asleep. The man surprised
>> everyone, including staff... and when we came back the next day we couldn't
>> believe our eyes when we entered the room and saw him in sitting in his
>> chair laughing at the TV.
>> I had to go back home to Sweden the 23:th. Christmas Eve at home is the
>> price of having children. But daily reports from my family has said that
>> after this horrible night he has slowly but steadily gotten better and
>> better... one foot in front of the other... and optimism has found its way
>> into us again. Maybe he would get a chance to get that treatment after all.
>> Isolating his cancer to his bones could give him a considerable amount of
>> time.
>> But this morning I talked to my sister. Yesterday her husband (also a
>> doctor) had spoken to my father's doctor, who said something none of us had
>> expected after seen him "climbing" like this. We should hope for weeks
>> rather than months. My sister didn't catch the reason why but obviously
>> something still is very wrong, despite the looks of it.
>> This got a little bit longer than planned. Making long stories short has
>> never been my field. The only thing I wanted with it was to ask for
>> prayers... that this probably rather short time that he has left will be as
>> pain free as possible.
>>
>> /Nick
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Re: [VFB] Blizzard -Rope Dub swap drop maybe

[Gary Webb]

Don,

Congratulations on the new job.  I hate moving anytime, but our last one
was started in late winter. Ugh!
Many years ago I bought a video tape by Al Beatty "Tying Hairwing Flies".
 I got it because it listed the Humpy
as one of the flies, And the man who got me hooked on fly fishing was/is a
great believer in the Red Humpy.
Since then I've seen a lot of video's and demos of tying the Humpy, and in
my opinion Al's is still the best.

Gary L Webb





On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

>   Peggy and all,
> I MAY need a sub for me for this swap.  Just learned that we are moving to
> Boise, Idaho and have to be there *within 2 months*. Job offer, great
> position, but a tough winter move. Been there the last two weeks and got
> the offer while we were there- out of the blue sort of thing. Full benefits
> and *health insurance*.
>
> Also, Al & Gretchen Beatty live there, so that will be fun.
>
> Do any others on the list live in or near Boise?
>
> DonO
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Peggy Brenner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:29 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Blizzard -Rope Dub swap details
>
> Sounds good to me!
>
> Peggy
>
> On 12/4/2013 1:01 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
> > Peggy,
> > So, technically, this is a 'Blizzard Swap' with winter themed materials,
> > and rope-dubbed flies are welcome. Correct? So if I tie up some
> > Yeti-hair & Great Auk feather streamers as extras, would that be OK?
> > (look it up- same as dodo bird feathers)
> >
> > DonO
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Peggy Brenner
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:24 AM
> > To: Virtual Fly Box
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Blizzard -Rope Dub swap 2014 CLOSED revised to 14
> tiers
> >
> > I have one person who dropped, so I reduced the number to 14
> >
> > On 12/4/2013 9:33 AM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> >> I just went through our emails of today and this is what I have.  The
> >> list for both swaps was the same except for the very bottom. We'll go
> >> with 15 swappers, a sweet list of materials, and you can rope dub or
> >> not. This way a option is a winter themed free style rope dubbed fly.
> >>
> >> Ice dub
> >> Polar bear
> >> Seal fur (synthetic OK) or walrus
> >> Penguin feathers (if you have them)
> >> Arctic fox
> >> Islandic sheep,
> >> caribou
> >> Yeti hair
> >> Narwhal under-hair dubbing
> >> ice colors of angel hair
> >> snowshoe hair from a snowshoe hare
> >>
> >> And, deadline February 7, flies to
> >>
> >> Peggy Brenner
> >> 266 N River Rd
> >> Milford, NH 03055
> >>
> >> I still work 3 days a week, till May, then it's good bye job, hello
> >> Medicare, retirement in August when Jerry turns 67.
> >>
> >> And we are both coming down to Sowbug in 2014 anyone else coming?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 1. Don Ordes- 18 Below Caddis Fly Nymph (18” below the strike
> > indicator)
> > 2.  Allan Fish
> > 3.  Mike Bliss
> >4.  Pete Gramp-Josh's White Lightning nymph
> > 5.  Peggy Brenner-Artic fox salmon with ice dub body rope on
> > 6.  Chuck Alexander - maybe
> > 7. Alan Single-L DiSomma
> > 8.  Ashley Strutt
> > 9.  Rick Zieger if he can find his dubbing
> > 10. Wayne Blake-Hedges
> > 11. J. Balmer
> > 12. Joyce Westphal
> >   13. Jerry Mckaughan
> >   14 Rene Zillman
> >>
> >> Peggy
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Mine too.

Gary


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Chuck,
> You have my thoughts and prayers.
> Arkansas Tony
>
>
>   On Sunday, December 1, 2013 2:39 AM, Joyce M Westphal <
> joyce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Prayers and healing thoughts for you.  I am so sorry to hear of your
> distress and pray the source will be found and easily remedied. Joyce
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Michael Bliss wrote:
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> You have got our prayers, Chuck.
>
> Mike
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> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander <
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>   Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to
> have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two
> DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since
> late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and
> they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests
> on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal
> pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder
> because the pain radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down
> and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and
> ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were
> no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a Mio View stress test for my heart
> and said they saw little or no blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But
> SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My doc says it could even be scar
> tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my intestines as I had to have
> FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there
> now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope
> they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly
> corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds
> my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
> part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the
> one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is
> closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a lot,
> Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??

[Gary Webb]

Chuck,

A couple of years ago, I could have supplied you with some black squirrel
tails.  When we first moved into this house the squirrels in our backyard
were evenly split between the black variant and the normal gray.  But I
haven't seen a black one for over a year. If one shows up  I'll get my air
rifle and "knock one off the bird feeder"  We don't live in the city, but
we're too close to get away with shooting a regular firearm.

Gary


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, the smiths  wrote:

>  I have some grey squreel tails I shot off my bird feeders last year.
> How many do you need?
> Gary
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck Alexander 
> *To:* fly fishing for 
> panfish;
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> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:25 PM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??
>
>  Anybody here have a squirrel tailk (or two) You’d sell me?? It’s the
> only thing I need, and with the price of shipping these days that most
> online places get, I’d end up paying them $3.95 plus $6.95 to $8.95 S&H in
> many cases for a tail that weighs about three ounces, If that. Anybody has
> one or two, I’ll Pay Pal you the moo lah or however you wish to do it. OR,
> if I have a material you need, we could do a “swap”. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Another photo of newbie rope-dubber

[Gary Webb]

That's always been my problem No focus.  Not cute either.  LOL


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Re: [VFB] JIMMY D Update

[Gary Webb]

Me too.  Looking forward to a fishing report down the road soon.

Gary


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Chuck Alexander <
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> Great news Jimmy. I'm glad for you, Chuck
>
> -Original Message- From: Jimmy D. Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:31 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] JIMMY D Update
>
>
> Good morning VFB'ers! Things are much better with me.  Getting used to
> the ankle/
> foot brace on my right foot, which improves my stability somewhat. And
> it will
> fit in my wading shoe.  Doc said "go for it"  It won't hurt the brace,
> OH YEA! :-)
> A little more rehab and hopefully wading will become a reality.  I won't
> burden
> you with details I covered all this in my July report,  The Essential
> tremor isn't
> causing further problems. Can still tie. Make a knot between "shakes." :-P
>
> Thank you to those who participated in the " Jimmy D Handicapped Swap." It
> was a blast.
>
> Have a good day and week and holler at me sometime,
>
> JIMMY D
>
>   ><º>  *
> JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits
> Fishing & Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe
> River Trout Unlimited,   North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
> Texas Fish & Game Magazine, Virtual Fly Box & Fly Fishing
> World Moderator, Scout Exec. Boy Scouts of America, Retired
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Re: [VFB] News

[Gary Webb]

Congratulations Tony1

Thanks Rick for the heads up.

Gary L Webb


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Rick Zieger  wrote:

> Tony Spezio received an award.
> He was made a living  in Legends of the Southern Council.
> I feel well deserved.
> Congratulations my freind.
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Re: [VFB] Pink Jig

[Gary Webb]

Chuck how about a PPP tied on a jig hook?  You could have a lot of fun
doing
"research"  comparing the two versions.

Gary L Webb






On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> These Pink Jigs have been the choice here on the White for several months.
> Tying up some for a friend. They are fished under an indicator.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] Rope-dub #2

[Gary Webb]

Great deal!  Thanks Don.




On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

>   Yes, All VFB DVD#1 buyers are on the list for #2, signed low # issues.
> I have no idea who’s left, though, so VFBers  are confirming their listing.
> So you are definitely on the list, as low as I can get you for ser. #.
>
> Don
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>  *From:* Gary Webb 
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 9:39 AM
> *To:* vfb-mail 
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Rope-dub #2
>
>  Don you can correct me if I'm wrong.  My memory isn't what it
> ... Anyway, I thought when I purchased  Rope Dubbing #1,  I
> would automatically be on the list for possibly buying # 2.
>
> Doesn't matter, if I'm not already there, put me on the list as a definite
> yes.
>
> Gary L Webb
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Michael Bliss wrote:
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>> Sounds like a great marketing idea - give a taste and pull it away
>> leaving them craving more.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:
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>>>   Of course all of the VFBers will have dibs on the lowest serial #’s
>>> with signature.
>>> I’ve got about a 1000 flies tied up for samples, so there will be a lot
>>> in each DVD.
>>>
>>> I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a simple introductory You-tube
>>> to just give a basic understanding on what the Rope-dub is and why it
>>> differs from other dubbing techniques. I’ve been considering as least part
>>> of it as side-by-side videos comparing my roping to looping, split thread,
>>> sticky wax, Polly’s, etc.
>>>
>>> Any ideas/comments? Yea or Nay?
>>>
>>> DonO
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Conranch 
>>>  *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 4:10 PM
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] More fly photos
>>>
>>>  I know I am high on the list for #2.
>>>
>>> Denny
>>>
>>> On 8/23/2013 2:45 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote:
>>>
>>>  Me too.
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>  *From:* J Balmer mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com 
>>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 4:22 PM
>>> *Subject:* RE: [VFB] More fly photos
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>>> Count me in for No.2.
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