[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Let me trade you some Peacock and Bronze and a few Chili Demons for them.
Tony
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:
From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 10:10 PM
Tony:
I have a bunch tied , so I am planning
on bringing them.
I have tied them with different colored bodies
also.
You'd love some of the one I've tied.
Would you like me to send you some?
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, Kidnapping is the new
economy
If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably
don't have any sense at all.
- Original Message -
From:
Anthony
Spezio
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:17 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly
update
Alan,
The Chili Peppers did real well in
Alaska.
Tony
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
wrote:
From:
Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject:
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date:
Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM
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Joyce:
I just wanted to thank you for the excellent
info you gave me on dying with Kool Aid.
I dyed some rabbit, artic fox and some grisley
hackle and they all came out wonderful.
I never experimented with trying to make burnt
orange for Chili Peppers because I have been told that the fish in
Alaska don't want anything burnt. They prefer it
bright.
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag
his tail.
-
Original Message -
From:
Joyce
To:
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject:
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Alan where did you find the video of Mary
Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce
-
Original Message -
From:
Alan Di
Somma
To:
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject:
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Thanks Nick.
I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I
am a little rusty to say the least.
I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the
past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in
Sept.
I have been getting better and faster and
they are looking better the more I tie.
The biggest problem is getting the
proportions correct.
Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That
is a whole nother ball game.
Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really
gets you to be exact.
I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and
she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher.
I plan on using both and a very strong
magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook.
I actually have some 28's but I would never
think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small.
At least not for a couple of more years of
tying.
Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I
will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am
in.
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him
wag his tail.
-
Original Message -
From:
Niclas
Runarsson
To:
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM
Subject:
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Hoping for noone to get
disappointed is not real swap
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Joyce: I just wanted to thank you for the excellent info you gave me on dying with Kool Aid. I dyed some rabbit, artic fox and some grisley hackle and they all came out wonderful. I never experimented with trying to make burnt orange for Chili Peppers because I have been told that the fish in Alaska don't want anything burnt. They prefer it bright. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY haven't I tried this before??? etc. Some of these guys are guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things like I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size when I've asked Why not try it yourself?. It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it). When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Alan,
The Chili Peppers did real well in Alaska.
Tony
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:
From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM
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Joyce:
I just wanted to thank you for the excellent info you gave
me on dying with Kool Aid.
I dyed some rabbit, artic fox and some grisley hackle and
they all came out wonderful.
I never experimented with trying to make burnt orange for
Chili Peppers because I have been told that the fish in Alaska don't want
anything burnt. They prefer it bright.
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his
tail.
- Original Message -
From:
Joyce
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly
update
Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying?
I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce
- Original Message -
From:
Alan Di
Somma
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03
AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly
update
Thanks Nick.
I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a
little rusty to say the least.
I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month
trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept.
I have been getting better and faster and they are
looking better the more I tie.
The biggest problem is getting the proportions
correct.
Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a
whole nother ball game.
Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to
be exact.
I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does
not use a bobbin or whip finisher.
I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying
glass to even see that tiny a hook.
I actually have some 28's but I would never think of
tying a dry fly on a hook that small.
At least not for a couple of more years of
tying.
Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my
best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in.
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his
tail.
- Original Message -
From:
Niclas Runarsson
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29
AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly
update
Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not
real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap
thinking:
Right
this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap
2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size
#20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This
has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's
time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort.
explanation.
As a
fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk
is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the
tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to
tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I
took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying
time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise,
to
say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than
24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to
even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know
where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose
to
tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and
smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15
minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming
in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as
practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a
shock. All this talk about buying hooks was
really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to
try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But
instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got
himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give
up??? - No way!!! LOL
This
turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also
became
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Tony: I have a bunch tied , so I am planning on bringing them. I have tied them with different colored bodies also. You'd love some of the one I've tied. Would you like me to send you some? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Kidnapping is the new economy If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan, The Chili Peppers did real well in Alaska. Tony --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 7:00 PM Joyce: I just wanted to thank you for the excellent info you gave me on dying with Kool Aid. I dyed some rabbit, artic fox and some grisley hackle and they all came out wonderful. I never experimented with trying to make burnt orange for Chili Peppers because I have been told that the fish in Alaska don't want anything burnt. They prefer it bright. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Peggy, if there is still room, I'd like to join Rene Peggy Brenner wrote: And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till December. And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers. 1 Peggy B Condor 2 Neville Gosling 3 George Vincent 4 Michael Bliss 5 6 7 8 9 10 -- Peggy Brenner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
thanks for the link. Joyce http://www.ienner.com/pages/_flyfishing_pf,html/flyfish_dette1.html I remember watching Lee Wulff tie his Royal Wulff at one of our club meeting a long time ago, without any tools except his hands and watching Mary Dettes tie reminded me of that. Quite an experience Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY haven't I tried this before??? etc. Some of these guys are guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things like I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size when I've asked Why not try it yourself?. It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it). When you WANT to give
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Did you enjoy her tying? I did. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update thanks for the link. Joyce http://www.ienner.com/pages/_flyfishing_pf,html/flyfish_dette1.html I remember watching Lee Wulff tie his Royal Wulff at one of our club meeting a long time ago, without any tools except his hands and watching Mary Dettes tie reminded me of that. Quite an experience Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY haven't I tried this before??? etc. Some of these guys are guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things like I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size when I've asked Why not try it yourself?. It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it). When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort from everyone will make noone give less than the other. /Nick -- From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:40:39 -0700 Peggy: I should have my tying skills up a little higher then they are now so I would like to try this swap. I'm not sure yet what I will tie but I sure would like to be in it, with these great tiers. I hope no one will be disapointed with my tying. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:01 PM Subject: [VFB] Catskill Dry fly update And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
A 'little' link... http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/32s.htm LOL -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Alan Di Somma Sent: 27 July 2009 17:03 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY haven't I tried this before??? etc. Some of these guys are guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things like I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size when I've asked Why not try it yourself?. It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it). When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort from everyone will make noone give less than the other. /Nick From: phxflyt...@cox.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:40:39 -0700 Peggy: I should have my tying skills up a little higher then they are now so I would like to try this swap. I'm not sure yet what I will tie but I sure would like to be in it, with these great tiers. I hope no one will be disapointed with my tying. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
http://www.ienner.com/pages/_flyfishing_pf,html/flyfish_dette1.html I remember watching Lee Wulff tie his Royal Wulff at one of our club meeting a long time ago, without any tools except his hands and watching Mary Dettes tie reminded me of that. Quite an experience Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Joyce To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce - Original Message - From: Alan Di Somma To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Thanks Nick. I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the least. I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept. I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more I tie. The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct. Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game. Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact. I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or whip finisher. I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that tiny a hook. I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a hook that small. At least not for a couple of more years of tying. Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what kind or size of swap I am in. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking: Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an example in the future, when it's time for the old A swap isn't a contest. It's all about effort. explanation. As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it easy and set the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a #20, as large as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... as practice hooks, so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks was really nice to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! Give up??? - No way!!! LOL This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any No, I can't do good enough to swap. Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts., It might not be the best... but it sure will be fun. The swap has been going on for two months now and the talk in the thread is the same: Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it was fun!, WHY haven't I tried this before??? etc. Some of these guys are guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things like I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size when I've asked Why not try it yourself?. It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it). When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort from everyone will make noone give less than the other. /Nick
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Peg, Please add my name. Cheers, Hans On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Peggy Brennerladyflyt...@gmail.com wrote: And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till December. And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers. 1 Peggy B Condor 2 Neville Gosling 3 George Vincent 4 Michael Bliss 5 6 7 8 9 10 -- Peggy Brenner -- You have a Friend in Low Places Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands http://www.danica.com/flytier = --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
