A 'little' link... http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/32s.htm  LOL
  -----Original Message-----
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on
Behalf Of Alan Di Somma
  Sent: 27 July 2009 17:03
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


  Thanks Nick.
  I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little rusty to say the
least.
  I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying to get some
flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept.
  I have been getting better and faster and they are looking better the more
I tie.
  The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct.

  Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole nother ball game.
  Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be exact.

  I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a bobbin or
whip finisher.
  I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to even see that
tiny a hook.

  I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a dry fly on a
hook that small.
  At least not for a couple of more years of tying.

  Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best no matter what
kind or size of swap I am in.


  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma

  Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

  Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Niclas Runarsson
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM
    Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


    Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di
Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking:

    Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the
(Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have
seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an
example in the future, when it's time for the old "A swap isn't a contest.
It's all about effort." explanation.

    As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the
talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers
are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny
flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it "easy" and set
the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even
fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12
participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out
to buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know
where to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to
tie on a #20, as "large" as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller.
(This #20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after
announcing it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of
them bought #22's... as "practice hooks", so the #26's that he also bought
wouldn't come as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks" was really nice
to see. It was new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with
hooks. Two guys had some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for
larger hooks, one of them got himself new glasses... and another bought a
new vise!!! "Give up??? - No way!!!" LOL

    This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also
became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any "No,
I can't do good enough to swap." Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: "I'm
not afraid... it's effort that counts.", "It might not be the best... but it
sure will be fun." The swap has been going on for two months now and the
talk in the thread is the same: "Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it
was fun!", "WHY haven't I tried this before???" etc. Some of these guys are
guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said
things like "I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size"
when I've asked "Why not try it yourself?".

    It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I
have read it more than once... just for the fun of it).

    When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort from
everyone will make noone give less than the other.

    /Nick




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    From: phxflyt...@cox.net
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
    Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
    Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:40:39 -0700



      Peggy:

      I should have my tying skills up a little higher then they are now so
I would like to try this swap.
      I'm not sure yet what I will tie but I sure would like to be in it,
with these great tiers.
      I hope no one will be disapointed with my tying.


      Thank you,
      Alan Di Somma

      Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

      Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his
tail.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Peggy Brenner
        To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:01 PM
        Subject: [VFB] Catskill Dry fly update


        And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous
Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till
December.  And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small
dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers.

        1 Peggy B  Condor
        2 Neville Gosling
        3 George Vincent
        4 Michael Bliss
        5
        6
        7
        8
        9
        10


        --
        Peggy Brenner


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