[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Spezio
Looks like we like to fish the same way.
Tony

--- On Wed, 5/20/09, J Balmer  wrote:

From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 7:58 AM




 
 






I coined the term “fish slappers” because it looks like they’re
slapping the water w/ short line. They stand in one place, have maybe 6-10 feet
of line out w/ a bobber 1-3 feet from the fly, let the fly run a short distance
down the outlet run & then pick it up & start over again. On a weekend
sometimes you’ll see a fish slapper every 5-10 feet on both sides of the outlet.
 

I watch my line when the fly is drifting & feel the hit when
it’s swinging or I’m stripping. I set the hook on a rock or two when the line
stops, but you’re going to catch a few inanimate objects when you’re putting a
lure where the fish are. I know people who are very successful w/ an indicator,
but I’m not one of themJ Like other aspects of life, whatever works is a good 
motto. 

   



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Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator 



   


 
  
  J,

  I would rather just watch the end of my line. Thaere is where I get the
  satisfaction of fishing with a midge.

  Never heard the term "Fish Slappers" but I have not fished Tanny.

  Tony

  

  --- On Sun, 5/17/09, J Balmer  wrote: 
  

  From: J Balmer 

  Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:37 AM 
  
  
  I
  don’t have tangle problems w/ an indicator, but I do have other problemsJ No
  matter how careful I am w/ those twist-on bobber types, I always wind up
  flinging them off the line. Apparently, I’m a violent caster. I don’t like
  the yarn ones because they’re a pain when I shift back to nymphing. When I’m
  fishing Taneycomo we wind up catching so many w/out an indicator that I don’t
  bother anymore. Maybe I should try a slip bobber like I use for crappie. 
  The
  other reason, perhaps, that I don’t use an indicator is that’s how the fish
  slappers fish. The fish slappers are the guys that stand side by side w/ six
  to ten feet of line out & flip the outlets from the hatchery on
  Taneycomo. They just stand there working that same six feet (sometimes less
  on a Saturday) & it looks like they’re slapping the water w/ their rods,
  hence the name. 
    
  J 
    
  
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  Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator 
  
    
  
   


I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one
twice and both times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style is not
conducive to using a indicator. I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day
using my fly line as an indicator. I caught at least 15 trout on that
midge. I did miss several but I had the satisfaction of fishing the way I
like to fish. I am not downing an indicator but it is just not for me. 


Tony



--- On Sat, 5/16/09, J Balmer  wrote: 




From: J Balmer 

Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:10 AM 


Sounds like a great day. Broke off @ the fly line? That must
have been something. Looking forward to coming down, but it will probably
be fall now after all. 

I’ve never been very successful w/ an indicator, not sure
why. I use a slip bobber for crappie on ultra-light spinning gear w/out a
problem.  

  

  

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Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday 

  

 
  
  
  J, 
  
  
  I never fish a Bobber till this time. I just had a mess, all
  tangled up. I prefer to watch my line and I make the determination if I
  have a strike. Today we fished Tucker again. The wind was howling but we
  stayed there toll about 12:30. I started out with a Peacock and Bronze.
  Caught two trout but they then refused it. Changed over to a 16 Copper
  midge fishing it without a indicator and caught about 20 trout. Broke off
  my whole furled leader at the fly line. Re rigged with a
  peacock soft hackle. Caught about five more trout and broke off.
  Decided the wind was just too much so we quit. Just as we quit, the river
  began to rise, looked like about three units. Had a real good morning.
  All three of us caught some really nice size trout. 
  
  
  Tony

  

  --- On

[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-20 Thread J Balmer
No, they're using a fly w/ a single hook, probably an egg pattern more often
than not. There's a hatchery next to the river @ the base of the dam @ Table
Rock. Several outlets have a constant flow of water and that's where the
fisheries dept releases young trout into Lake Taneycomo. It's one of the
reasons the upper mile & a half or so is designated a trophy area. Trout
come up the flow looking for a cheap meal. I've seen guys fishing the rocks
right where the pipes come out & I've seen people moving rocks to "adjust"
the channel. The thing that always amazes me is that there's more fish in
the river w/in casting distance than there are in the outlets, but I guess
that takes more work than the fish slappers are willing to commit to.

 

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Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator

 

 

The other reason, perhaps, that I don't use an indicator is that's how the
fish slappers fish. The fish slappers are the guys that stand side by side
w/ six to ten feet of line out & flip the outlets from the hatchery on
Taneycomo. They just stand there working that same six feet (sometimes less
on a Saturday) & it looks like they're slapping the water w/ their rods,
hence the name.

 

Modified snagging?

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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-20 Thread J Balmer
I coined the term “fish slappers” because it looks like they’re slapping the 
water w/ short line. They stand in one place, have maybe 6-10 feet of line out 
w/ a bobber 1-3 feet from the fly, let the fly run a short distance down the 
outlet run & then pick it up & start over again. On a weekend sometimes you’ll 
see a fish slapper every 5-10 feet on both sides of the outlet. 

I watch my line when the fly is drifting & feel the hit when it’s swinging or 
I’m stripping. I set the hook on a rock or two when the line stops, but you’re 
going to catch a few inanimate objects when you’re putting a lure where the 
fish are. I know people who are very successful w/ an indicator, but I’m not 
one of themJ Like other aspects of life, whatever works is a good motto.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Spezio
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:37 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

 


J,
I would rather just watch the end of my line. Thaere is where I get the 
satisfaction of fishing with a midge.
Never heard the term "Fish Slappers" but I have not fished Tanny.
Tony

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:37 AM

I don’t have tangle problems w/ an indicator, but I do have other problemsJ No 
matter how careful I am w/ those twist-on bobber types, I always wind up 
flinging them off the line. Apparently, I’m a violent caster. I don’t like the 
yarn ones because they’re a pain when I shift back to nymphing. When I’m 
fishing Taneycomo we wind up catching so many w/out an indicator that I don’t 
bother anymore. Maybe I should try a slip bobber like I use for crappie.

The other reason, perhaps, that I don’t use an indicator is that’s how the fish 
slappers fish. The fish slappers are the guys that stand side by side w/ six to 
ten feet of line out & flip the outlets from the hatchery on Taneycomo. They 
just stand there working that same six feet (sometimes less on a Saturday) & it 
looks like they’re slapping the water w/ their rods, hence the name.

 

J

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Spezio
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:14 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

 


I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one twice and both 
times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style is not conducive to using 
a indicator. I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an 
indicator. I caught at least 15 trout on that midge. I did miss several but I 
had the satisfaction of fishing the way I like to fish. I am not downing an 
indicator but it is just not for me.

Tony

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:10 AM

Sounds like a great day. Broke off @ the fly line? That must have been 
something. Looking forward to coming down, but it will probably be fall now 
after all.

I’ve never been very successful w/ an indicator, not sure why. I use a slip 
bobber for crappie on ultra-light spinning gear w/out a problem. 

 

 

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Anthony Spezio
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:25 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday

 


J,

I never fish a Bobber till this time. I just had a mess, all tangled up. I 
prefer to watch my line and I make the determination if I have a strike. Today 
we fished Tucker again. The wind was howling but we stayed there toll about 
12:30. I started out with a Peacock and Bronze. Caught two trout but they then 
refused it. Changed over to a 16 Copper midge fishing it without a indicator 
and caught about 20 trout. Broke off my whole furled leader at the fly line. Re 
rigged with a peacock soft hackle. Caught about five more trout and broke off. 
Decided the wind was just too much so we quit. Just as we quit, the river began 
to rise, looked like about three units. Had a real good morning. All three of 
us caught some really nice size trout.

Tony

--- On Fri, 5/15/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:20 AM

Sounds like a great time.

No fishing here, yesterday was rain free, but the sump  pump was still running 
continuously & we’re supposed to get another big storm through today.

I fish those zebras once in a while below Table Rock w/out the indicator; I 
just watch the tippet/leader connection & set anytime it stops moving. I miss a 
few, but the ones I land are pretty good size.

 

J

 

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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Spezio
Chris, Just a floating line. LOL
Tony

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Chris Cook  wrote:

From: Chris Cook 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator
To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:28 AM

What is a floating line if it is not 'a float'?



On 17 May 2009, at 14:06, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

Allan,
That is the way I feel. I feel like it is cheating. I get a lot 
of satisfaction by watching the tine end and I decide if I have a hit or not. 
We all have our own ways of fishing, do what pleases you most.
Tony

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Allan Fish  wrote:


From: Allan Fish 
Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 7:38 AM



>I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one 
>twice and both times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style 
>is not conducive to using a indicator.


You throw too tight a loop.   You've got to have a big wide sloppy 
looking cast so the indicator doesn't fall onto the line and tangle.

>I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an indicator.

And that's the way I prefer to fish midges too.

The only time I 'bobber-fished' was with a guide.  We did have a 100+ 
fish day, but I felt like I was not fly fishing.

a.
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Greenwood, IN
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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Spezio
J,
I would rather just watch the end of my line. Thaere is where I get the 
satisfaction of fishing with a midge.
Never heard the term "Fish Slappers" but I have not fished Tanny.
Tony

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, J Balmer  wrote:

From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:37 AM




 
 






I don’t have tangle problems w/ an indicator, but I do have
other problemsJ No matter how careful I am w/ those twist-on bobber types, I
always wind up flinging them off the line. Apparently, I’m a violent caster. I
don’t like the yarn ones because they’re a pain when I shift back to nymphing.
When I’m fishing Taneycomo we wind up catching so many w/out an indicator that
I don’t bother anymore. Maybe I should try a slip bobber like I use for
crappie. 

The other reason, perhaps, that I don’t use an indicator is that’s
how the fish slappers fish. The fish slappers are the guys that stand side by
side w/ six to ten feet of line out & flip the outlets from the hatchery on
Taneycomo. They just stand there working that same six feet (sometimes less on
a Saturday) & it looks like they’re slapping the water w/ their rods, hence
the name. 

   

J 

   



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Anthony
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:14 AM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator 



   


 
  
  
  I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only
  used one twice and both times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style
  is not conducive to using a indicator. I fished a small sz 18 midge the other
  day using my fly line as an indicator. I caught at least 15 trout on that
  midge. I did miss several but I had the satisfaction of fishing the way I
  like to fish. I am not downing an indicator but it is just not for me. 
  
  
  Tony

  

  --- On Sat, 5/16/09, J Balmer  wrote: 
  
  
  

  From: J Balmer 

  Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:10 AM 
  
  
  Sounds
  like a great day. Broke off @ the fly line? That must have been something.
  Looking forward to coming down, but it will probably be fall now after all. 
  
  I’ve
  never been very successful w/ an indicator, not sure why. I use a slip bobber
  for crappie on ultra-light spinning gear w/out a problem.  
  
    
  
    
  
  From:
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony
  Spezio

  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:25 PM

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday 
  
    
  
   


J, 


I never fish a Bobber till this time. I just had a mess, all tangled
up. I prefer to watch my line and I make the determination if I have a
strike. Today we fished Tucker again. The wind was howling but we stayed
there toll about 12:30. I started out with a Peacock and Bronze. Caught two
trout but they then refused it. Changed over to a 16 Copper midge fishing
it without a indicator and caught about 20 trout. Broke off my whole
furled leader at the fly line. Re rigged with a peacock soft
hackle. Caught about five more trout and broke off. Decided the wind was
just too much so we quit. Just as we quit, the river began to rise, looked
like about three units. Had a real good morning. All three of us caught
some really nice size trout. 


Tony



--- On Fri, 5/15/09, J Balmer  wrote: 




From: J Balmer 

Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:20 AM 



Sounds like a great time. 


No fishing here, yesterday was rain free, but the sump 
pump was still running continuously & we’re supposed to get another big
storm through today. 
I fish those zebras once in a while below Table Rock w/out
the indicator; I just watch the tippet/leader connection & set anytime
it stops moving. I miss a few, but the ones I land are pretty good size. 
  
J 
  

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Subject: [VFB] Fishing Yesterday 

  

 
  
  
  Well after almost two years of very little fishing I finally got on
  the river and had one of those real good days. They have been running a
  lot of water since they shut down in March when the guys were here for the
  Sowbug. I did get a few times that I fished from the dock with high water
  and did fairly well. Yesterday they shut down because of flooding
  downriver and will be shut down for a few days. I have a friend visiting
  from Californ

[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma
[VFB] Re: Fishing now IndicatorThanks Allan.
I know Dave lewis makes great rods.
Good to see he is still spending the summers in Mt.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
  - Original Message - 
  From: Allan Fish 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:53 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator


Allan:

What is e-glass?


  Gee, Alan, I started to say that's what's between d-glass and f-glass, but 
then I decided that wouldn't have been very nice.


  e-glass is a bi-directionally woven glass fiber that Lamiglas uses to make 
rod blanks.




  Here are some of Dave's glass rods:
  http://www.performanceflyrods.com/glassrods.html


  And here is a little (very little) about e-glass:
  http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/220214564/E_Glass_Woven_Rovings.html


  And believe me, when I looked this up via google, I found that you do NOT 
want to go to "e-glass.com"  :-(.




  Allan
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  Greenwood, IN
  afi...@sbcglobal.net

  




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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread Alan Di Somma

Allan:

What is e-glass?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma

Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator



>What is a floating line if it is not 'a float'?
>

Normally I feel the take long before I see it.

And I've got a new Dave Lewis e-Glass  rod that
is so sensitive that I don't really feel like I
need to watch the line.


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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread J Balmer
I don’t have tangle problems w/ an indicator, but I do have other problemsJ No 
matter how careful I am w/ those twist-on bobber types, I always wind up 
flinging them off the line. Apparently, I’m a violent caster. I don’t like the 
yarn ones because they’re a pain when I shift back to nymphing. When I’m 
fishing Taneycomo we wind up catching so many w/out an indicator that I don’t 
bother anymore. Maybe I should try a slip bobber like I use for crappie.

The other reason, perhaps, that I don’t use an indicator is that’s how the fish 
slappers fish. The fish slappers are the guys that stand side by side w/ six to 
ten feet of line out & flip the outlets from the hatchery on Taneycomo. They 
just stand there working that same six feet (sometimes less on a Saturday) & it 
looks like they’re slapping the water w/ their rods, hence the name.

 

J

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Spezio
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:14 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

 


I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one twice and both 
times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style is not conducive to using 
a indicator. I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an 
indicator. I caught at least 15 trout on that midge. I did miss several but I 
had the satisfaction of fishing the way I like to fish. I am not downing an 
indicator but it is just not for me.

Tony

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:10 AM

Sounds like a great day. Broke off @ the fly line? That must have been 
something. Looking forward to coming down, but it will probably be fall now 
after all.

I’ve never been very successful w/ an indicator, not sure why. I use a slip 
bobber for crappie on ultra-light spinning gear w/out a problem. 

 

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Spezio
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:25 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday

 


J,

I never fish a Bobber till this time. I just had a mess, all tangled up. I 
prefer to watch my line and I make the determination if I have a strike. Today 
we fished Tucker again. The wind was howling but we stayed there toll about 
12:30. I started out with a Peacock and Bronze. Caught two trout but they then 
refused it. Changed over to a 16 Copper midge fishing it without a indicator 
and caught about 20 trout. Broke off my whole furled leader at the fly line. Re 
rigged with a peacock soft hackle. Caught about five more trout and broke off. 
Decided the wind was just too much so we quit. Just as we quit, the river began 
to rise, looked like about three units. Had a real good morning. All three of 
us caught some really nice size trout.

Tony

--- On Fri, 5/15/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:20 AM

Sounds like a great time.

No fishing here, yesterday was rain free, but the sump  pump was still running 
continuously & we’re supposed to get another big storm through today.

I fish those zebras once in a while below Table Rock w/out the indicator; I 
just watch the tippet/leader connection & set anytime it stops moving. I miss a 
few, but the ones I land are pretty good size.

 

J

 

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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Fishing Yesterday

 


Well after almost two years of very little fishing I finally got on the river 
and had one of those real good days. They have been running a lot of water 
since they shut down in March when the guys were here for the Sowbug. I did get 
a few times that I fished from the dock with high water and did fairly well. 
Yesterday they shut down because of flooding downriver and will be shut down 
for a few days. I have a friend visiting from California who has never been 
here. Just his good lick to hit it like yesterday. We headed up to Tucker 
Shoals about 8 AM., Forecast was for rain and high winds. The bend at Tucker is 
kind of protected by a ridge and trees so we could tolerate it well for a 
while. I started out with a Green soft hackle. Picked up a trout or two but 
they were not really interested in it. Changed over to my Still Born Emerger 
and from the first cast with it I was catching some real nice Rainbows up to 
15". They stopped hitting the emerger so I switched over to a Peacock and 
Bronze. Again I caught trout from the first cast till it too would not work. 
Changed over to a small Black Midge. Same here, they would hammer it for a 
while then ignore it. Headed up the river above my

[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Cook
What is a floating line if it is not 'a float'?



On 17 May 2009, at 14:06, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Allan,
> That is the way I feel. I feel like it is cheating. I get a lot of  
> satisfaction by watching the tine end and I decide if I have a hit  
> or not. We all have our own ways of fishing, do what pleases you most.
> Tony
>
> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Allan Fish  wrote:
>
> From: Allan Fish 
> Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 7:38 AM
>
>
> >I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one
> >twice and both times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style
> >is not conducive to using a indicator.
>
>
> You throw too tight a loop.   You've got to have a big wide sloppy
> looking cast so the indicator doesn't fall onto the line and tangle.
>
> >I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an  
> indicator.
>
> And that's the way I prefer to fish midges too.
>
> The only time I 'bobber-fished' was with a guide.  We did have a 100+
> fish day, but I felt like I was not fly fishing.
>
> a.
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> afi...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> >

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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread Anthony Spezio
Allan,
That is the way I feel. I feel like it is cheating. I get a lot 
of satisfaction by watching the tine end and I decide if I have a hit or not. 
We all have our own ways of fishing, do what pleases you most.
Tony

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Allan Fish  wrote:


From: Allan Fish 
Subject: [VFB] Fishing now Indicator
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 7:38 AM



>I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one 
>twice and both times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style 
>is not conducive to using a indicator.


You throw too tight a loop.   You've got to have a big wide sloppy 
looking cast so the indicator doesn't fall onto the line and tangle.

>I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an indicator.

And that's the way I prefer to fish midges too.

The only time I 'bobber-fished' was with a guide.  We did have a 100+ 
fish day, but I felt like I was not fly fishing.

a.
-- 
Allan Fish
Greenwood, IN
afi...@sbcglobal.net





  
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[VFB] Re: Fishing now Indicator

2009-05-17 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have a problem with a Indicator (bobber). I have only used one twice and both 
times I had tangle problems. I guess my casting style is not conducive to using 
a indicator. I fished a small sz 18 midge the other day using my fly line as an 
indicator. I caught at least 15 trout on that midge. I did miss several but I 
had the satisfaction of fishing the way I like to fish. I am not downing an 
indicator but it is just not for me.
Tony

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 9:10 AM








Sounds like a great day. Broke off @ the fly line? That must have been 
something. Looking forward to coming down, but it will probably be fall now 
after all.
I’ve never been very successful w/ an indicator, not sure why. I use a slip 
bobber for crappie on ultra-light spinning gear w/out a problem. 
 
 

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Anthony Spezio
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:25 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
 





J,

I never fish a Bobber till this time. I just had a mess, all tangled up. I 
prefer to watch my line and I make the determination if I have a strike. Today 
we fished Tucker again. The wind was howling but we stayed there toll about 
12:30. I started out with a Peacock and Bronze. Caught two trout but they then 
refused it. Changed over to a 16 Copper midge fishing it without a indicator 
and caught about 20 trout. Broke off my whole furled leader at the fly line. Re 
rigged with a peacock soft hackle. Caught about five more trout and broke off. 
Decided the wind was just too much so we quit. Just as we quit, the river began 
to rise, looked like about three units. Had a real good morning. All three of 
us caught some really nice size trout.

Tony

--- On Fri, 5/15/09, J Balmer  wrote:


From: J Balmer 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fishing Yesterday
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:20 AM


Sounds like a great time.
No fishing here, yesterday was rain free, but the sump  pump was still running 
continuously & we’re supposed to get another big storm through today.
I fish those zebras once in a while below Table Rock w/out the indicator; I 
just watch the tippet/leader connection & set anytime it stops moving. I miss a 
few, but the ones I land are pretty good size.
 
J
 

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Subject: [VFB] Fishing Yesterday
 





Well after almost two years of very little fishing I finally got on the river 
and had one of those real good days. They have been running a lot of water 
since they shut down in March when the guys were here for the Sowbug. I did get 
a few times that I fished from the dock with high water and did fairly well. 
Yesterday they shut down because of flooding downriver and will be shut down 
for a few days. I have a friend visiting from California who has never been 
here. Just his good lick to hit it like yesterday. We headed up to Tucker 
Shoals about 8 AM., Forecast was for rain and high winds. The bend at Tucker is 
kind of protected by a ridge and trees so we could tolerate it well for a 
while. I started out with a Green soft hackle. Picked up a trout or two but 
they were not really interested in it. Changed over to my Still Born Emerger 
and from the first cast with it I was catching some real nice Rainbows up to 
15". They stopped hitting the emerger so I
 switched over to a Peacock and Bronze. Again I caught trout from the first 
cast till it too would not work. Changed over to a small Black Midge. Same 
here, they would hammer it for a while then ignore it. Headed up the river 
above my friend and tied on a Chili Pepper. From the first cast I started 
taking trout of some nice large sizes up to18 and 19 ". Finally I hooked into 
one that was the largest for the day butI did not land it. It was bigger than 
my 19" landing net and I could not keep it from falling out. I tried to slide 
my fingers down the tippet to the hook to give it a twist out but the trout 
made a good shake and broke off. That was the only Chili Pepper I had with me. 
I tied on another Peacock and and Bronze and fished till the wind got so bad 
that we had to quit. Tom and I had caught over 30 trout each. I stopped in the 
middle of this message to go out again but today it was a whole different 
story. I had called another fishing buddy to go
 with us late afternoon, Dean is a trout magnet. He only fishes small midges in 
sz 20 and smaller and uses an indicator Well he made Tom and I look sick. I 
could not buy a bite on several flies while he was hooking up every time I 
looked up. He was doing that till the water started rising , the dam had turned 
on one unit. Dean caught 34 trout.