[VFB] Re: in case
Are you talking about gut used for hook eyes. Ive always heard about doing it but never have tried it. Where would i find the material, etc. jc -Original Message- From: Mark Romero Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:02 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes
That sounds totally cool Iainthass another cool thing bout Artiostic fly tying...there are no rules.you can do anything. Well, there is one ruleyou MUST have funBIG FUN! After all, if you aint havin' no fun.why you doin' it? i've used all kinna difernet stuff to twist into eye materials.fly line backing, mono, furled leader, whatever.it's all fun. The deal is to "use your imagination"...after all, you got one. From: iainsh...@hotmail.comed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:30:34 + If you have difficulty getting gut for eyes you can always make furled cream silk eyes. (Practice on cheap sewing thread) They look OK framed but I wouldnt fish them. use similar method to furled leaders. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:54:07 -0700 Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to "fit inside" the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case now silk eyes
If you have difficulty getting gut for eyes you can always make furled cream silk eyes. (Practice on cheap sewing thread) They look OK framed but I wouldnt fish them. use similar method to furled leaders. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:54:07 -0700 Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to "fit inside" the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mike, also way back in the days.when most all blind eye hooks had squared off hook shanks and no tapers.the gut was usually tyed in almost the complete length of ther shank..so as to make it less likely to pull out while fighting big fish. But with the advent of tapered hooks and specially since we most often do not fish these flies.the guy in most often nowdays, only tyed in to "fit inside" the taper. Which is why, when you are sucking on it to prepare it for shaping into a neat little ring to make the eye, you should also nibble on the two tags ends. You just bite right on both ends to fray them and prepare them for seperation, so you can stager your cuts. You wanna trim the gut on a taper to keep the taper on the hooks smooth and even. So say you have three strands on the piece your working with.after you get it bout half way lashed down.you seperate the strands and make graduated cuts of the three strands individually and continue lashing. That's how you keep a nice taper for your body. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mike, the main reason they did it way back when, (the twisting), is because it made the eye stronger. They use as many strands (in the twist) as was nessessary so as to make the fly asthetically pleasing in it's looks based on the diameter of the hook wire. The larger the diameter, the more strands were used. Most all gut that was prepared for using with blind eye hooks, was either two, three or four strand.obviously for thin, thicker and thickest hooks, diameter of the wire itself. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:22:32 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: in case From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero wrote: Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Reuven, first you'll need to put ypourself together a network of sources.trust worthy, reputable, and reliable. in other words, you need to know WHO to get your gut from. other thn that, you just need to get to where you know the right stuff when you see it. The gut we use is not animal gut.it is silkworm gut..normally. Although i use both. i do things you average Salmon fly tyer would never think to do. Most Salmon fly tyers do so-called "classics" which to me, is like a Leapor with Goneareah.redundent. Don't get me wrong.i love, and fully appreciate the classics, but nowhere near as much originals. > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:54 +1100 > From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > > > When using the term "gut", is it always a natural product? I mean- how > do I know it is suitable? > Iain- is the vet gut sutures actually made from animal gut or is it a > different product similar in looks to gut string? > > R > > Mark Romero wrote: > > Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the > > process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of > > cake... > > What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the > > time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long > > enough to use all i have. > > > > ------------ > > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + > > > > Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end > > knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. > > soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight > > to dry. > > > > > > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 > > > > Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And > > actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got > > al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it > > is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time > > involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by > > thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we > > need to sleep. > > > > > > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + > > > > try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. > > iain > > > > > > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [VFB] in case > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 > > > > In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail > > today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in > > colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on > > ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis > > racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol > > > > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. > > <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009> > > > > > > > > > > Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/> > > > > > > > > > > > Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email > > accounts. Find out how. <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/> > > > > > > > > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Mark or Iain, I don't tie with blind eyes so tell me why do you twist the gut to make the eye? Does it keep it from closing or what? Mike On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Mark Romero wrote: > Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the > process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of > cake... > What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for > that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all > i have. > > -- > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + > > Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end > knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. > soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to > dry. > > ---------- > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 > > Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, > i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds > of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. > Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. > Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we > got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. > > > -- > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + > > try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. > iain > > -- > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] in case > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 > > In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail > today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in > colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is > pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as > good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol > -- > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn > more.<http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009> > > > > -- > Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn > more.<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/> > > > > -- > Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Find > out how. <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/> > > > -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
When using the term "gut", is it always a natural product? I mean- how do I know it is suitable? Iain- is the vet gut sutures actually made from animal gut or is it a different product similar in looks to gut string? R Mark Romero wrote: > Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the > process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of > cake... > What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the > time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long > enough to use all i have. > > > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + > > Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end > knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. > soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight > to dry. > > ---------------- > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 > > Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And > actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got > al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it > is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time > involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by > thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we > need to sleep. > > -------- > From: iainsh...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: in case > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + > > try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. > iain > > > From: markflie...@hotmail.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] in case > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 > > In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail > today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in > colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on > ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis > racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol > > Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. > <http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009> > > > > > Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. > <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/> > > > > > Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email > accounts. Find out how. <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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btw, "boiling water" aint cool.luke warm is better. not all gut is the same and you need to keep an eye on it til it's just right. Some only needs a half hour to soak.some needs 2 hours.all depends. From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:47:52 -0800 Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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btw, "boiling water" aint cool.luke warm is better. not all gut is the same and you need to keep an eye on it til it's just right. Some only needs a half hour to soak.some needs 2 hours.all depends. From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:47:52 -0800 Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Iain, i've twisted a lot of gut over the last few years.i know the process.and i never said it was hardit IS a piece of cake... What i said IS, it's time consumming. And i simply don' t have the time for that. Plus i'm set for life on gut now. i can't live long enough to use all i have. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:42:22 + Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&filt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. _ From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. <http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:07:05 + try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles. Learn more. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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try your local vet for out of date gut sutures, comes in all sizes. iain From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] in case Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:49:29 -0700 In case anyone is interested. i got my Ukelele strings in the mail today..the gut is very nice...very clean and very light in colorperfect for dying. i think there is more on ebay...price is pretty good as well. Now let's hope the tennis racquet stuff is just as good. ebay is sometimes a crap shoot..lol Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. _ Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
