[videoblogging] Stat Counters and conflicting reports
Hey, does anyone know anything about Stat counters? I've got both Branica and StatCounter.org running and the results are dramatically different... Stat counter shows a massive amount more traffic than Branica... anyone know what might be going on? Thanks... Josh We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into to peace. Power to the peaceful! Spearhead - Bomb the World YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Stat Counters and conflicting reports
Hey Josh, I don't know why that happens but I have noticed it also. From what I've seen they're only good for pointing to a general trend - visits are going up or visits are going down kind of thing. -Verdi On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:25 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: Hey, does anyone know anything about Stat counters? I've got both Branica and StatCounter.org running and the results are dramatically different... Stat counter shows a massive amount more traffic than Branica... anyone know what might be going on? Thanks... Josh YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Mobile vlogging!
I'm doing a little Mobile vlogging as coverage of the Bite Of Seattle and staying with my in-laws this weekend on my MSN Spaces blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/ndr/ Problems: battery gets drained fast recording and uploading signal is unreliable i found myself batch uploading around an ac outlet where there was a strong signal which was the ferry terminal on my way to bed. Yesterday, I recorded 50 minutes of various video clips and probably 45 seconds of cell phone footage. But, the 50 minutes of video is still sitting in my camcorder while the 45 seconds is online now. Mobile vlogging is where the real action will be. Not in terms of slick production or great image quality, but in terms of being a real world-wide communications method. Are there any statistics as to how many people watch Rocketboom through the cell phone, Andrew? What success stories do we have in terms of mobile vlogging? Eric Rice from audioblog talks about Calling a number with your audio message. What about sending a video clip to a certain number through GPRS? I must admit I don't know the extent of problems that the Americans are facing with your telecommunications systems, but I do realize that you are facing certain .. challenges. But aren't things getting better? The real reason for my interest in mobile vlogging is articles like this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4706437.stm Mobile use in Tanzania and across Africa is gaining momentum all the time, and users continue to confound researchers with their creativity in using the devices. Already the West has started to look to Africa and the developing world for new ideas as to where to take the technology next. I remember there was an edition of The Economist a few months back with the front page title: The real digital divide - showing a cell phone, not a computer. So let's forget our G5's and Pentium 4's with Adobe Premiere Pro or iMovie for a moment. Let's talk about videoblogging without the computer, without the webcam. Here is a Swedish site where you can simply register, take a picture or a short movie sequence, and send it as an MMS to an address. http://mobilblogg.nu I have not tried it myself yet, but I will asap and once I do, I will make a report on screenvlog.com Ideas? Success stories? Have you tried mobile vlogging and if so could you please state your country, your network provider, how you do it and if it worked for you? Best regards, Raymond M. Kristiansen site: dltq.org / screenvlog.com work: blogsoft.net SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Stat Counters and conflicting reports
Different counters calculate their number in different ways. Some will count every hit on a page, so if Joe visits your sight, and keeps coming back to a particular page, the counter will increment every time. Another type of counter will calculate every visit. Underthe same scenario, Joe's visit above would only increment the counter once, but if he came back later in the day, that would move the counter up again. Yet another type of counter only includes unique visits for a day, so Joe's second visit to your site wouldn't increase the count, but his visit the next day (he must really like your site) would be counted. They all have their uses, depending on whether your aim is to gather accurate marketing data, imress your visitors, or just see if it is worth maintaining the site. You could use all three and they would be wildly different, and yet all totally accurate. Hope that helps. Peter --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Josh, I don't know why that happens but I have noticed it also. From what I've seen they're only good for pointing to a general trend - visits are going up or visits are going down kind of thing. -Verdi On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:25 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: Hey, does anyone know anything about Stat counters? I've got both Branica and StatCounter.org running and the results are dramatically different... Stat counter shows a massive amount more traffic than Branica... anyone know what might be going on? Thanks... Josh YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Mobile vlogging!
On Mobile vlogging!: I wonder if crime drops at all as a result of more and more people having cameras (especially video) on their phones, etc. Remembering incidents like the old Rodney King police brutality issue (among others) that were captured on videotape, one would think that more and more crimes would be captured live and could be easily distributed worldwide to (hopefully) bring justice (except in cases where the perpetrators have enough money to afford their crime). There are already a ton of surveillance cameras worldwide (an interesting issue, I think) but now are police out there getting video and images off of people's phones? Is there a central place to email images or videos from a phone along with the location in case of a suspected crime As mentioned this technology has potential for people in Africa, South America, South Asia, etc. who could use this to help bring light to problems or good things happening in their environ. In terms of sites that allow you to email images or video from your phone and post it to the net, I was checking out http://www.mo-blog.com but I haven't been successful in getting it to work. I'm very interested in being able to simply shoot from my Treo 650 (especially video) and email it to a blog. I tried this with Blogger.com and it didn't work (neither still nor movies).. Does anyone know of a site where this all works smoothly? cheers, clark http://zipzapzop.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, R. Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mobile vlogging is where the real action will be. Not in terms of slick production or great image quality, but in terms of being a real world-wide communications method. Here is a Swedish site where you can simply register, take a picture or a short movie sequence, and send it as an MMS to an address. http://mobilblogg.nu YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Adobe Premiere Compression
hey kids does anyone use Premiere for editing? what are your compression settings? would you be willing to make a screencast/tutorial for freevlog? either way can you tell me your settings? people ask me all the time and i dont have premiere and every program is different with what works and what doesnt. thanks!! -ry -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] problem with internet archive
hey kids, is anyone else have trouble with the internet archive? i uploaded a video and screen-capture last night the files are still sitting in the que. i tried to upload them again this morning the ourmedia publishing tool gave me a error saying that the disk was full. i have no idea what this means or why im having a problem with these files. but if anyone has any advice, id really appreciate the help! thanks, mariah YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Stat Counters and conflicting reports
Thanks Peter... The only thing is that the one counters unique visitor total is less than the others more vague visitor total on a daily basis. The numbers are so different that for one stat counter I'm shocked at the amount of traffic I've managed to get and for the other -- well, it's cool that close a hundred people are checking out my page each day; but the other stat is quite dramatically different. Josh On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Peter Paddon wrote: Different counters calculate their number in different ways. Some will count every hit on a page, so if Joe visits your sight, and keeps coming back to a particular page, the counter will increment every time. Another type of counter will calculate every visit. Underthe same scenario, Joe's visit above would only increment the counter once, but if he came back later in the day, that would move the counter up again. Yet another type of counter only includes unique visits for a day, so Joe's second visit to your site wouldn't increase the count, but his visit the next day (he must really like your site) would be counted. They all have their uses, depending on whether your aim is to gather accurate marketing data, imress your visitors, or just see if it is worth maintaining the site. You could use all three and they would be wildly different, and yet all totally accurate. Hope that helps. Peter --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Josh, I don't know why that happens but I have noticed it also. From what I've seen they're only good for pointing to a general trend - visits are going up or visits are going down kind of thing. -Verdi On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:25 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: Hey, does anyone know anything about Stat counters? I've got both Branica and StatCounter.org running and the results are dramatically different... Stat counter shows a massive amount more traffic than Branica... anyone know what might be going on? Thanks... Josh YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into to peace. Power to the peaceful! Spearhead - Bomb the World YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] problem with internet archive
Over the past few days, I have noticed the Archive loading movies more slowly than usual; I haven't uploaded anything to Ourmedia in the last week though as my most recent video will need to be taken down at some point soon and it's just easier to delete movies from my .mac account than it is to write the folks at ourmedia and ask that they take down the file when the need arises. Josh On Jul 24, 2005, at 10:42 AM, missingkittentv wrote: hey kids, is anyone else have trouble with the internet archive? i uploaded a video and screen-capture last night the files are still sitting in the que. i tried to upload them again this morning the ourmedia publishing tool gave me a error saying that the disk was full. i have no idea what this means or why im having a problem with these files. but if anyone has any advice, id really appreciate the help! thanks, mariah YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Don't hate the media, become the media.- Jello Biafra SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Mobile vlogging!
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:54:15 +0200, Clark ov Saturn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if crime drops at all as a result of more and more people having cameras (especially video) on their phones, etc. Remembering incidents like the old Rodney King police brutality issue (among others) that were captured on videotape, one would think that more and more crimes would be captured live and could be easily distributed worldwide to (hopefully) bring justice (except in cases where the perpetrators have enough money to afford their crime). You have to remember the other side of the story. Video is *the* most deceptive and seductive type of media. Editing out the 25 minutes of random druggie pushing a cop and only showing the 10 seconds where the cop has to use his baton doesn't help bring justice. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: problem with internet archive
thanks so much for your help, josh! i just tried uploading the files again, this time through the ourmedia website, instead of the publishing tool, and got IA urls almost instantly. the files dont show up on the archive contributions page, or in the que, at all, but somehow its working... i dont understand why, but im grateful, nonetheless. the original uploads have been in limbo for over 13 hrs. doesnt make a lick of sense to me. but i hope no one else is having this problem. thanks again! m --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the past few days, I have noticed the Archive loading movies more slowly than usual; I haven't uploaded anything to Ourmedia in the last week though as my most recent video will need to be taken down at some point soon and it's just easier to delete movies from my .mac account than it is to write the folks at ourmedia and ask that they take down the file when the need arises. Josh On Jul 24, 2005, at 10:42 AM, missingkittentv wrote: hey kids, is anyone else have trouble with the internet archive? i uploaded a video and screen-capture last night the files are still sitting in the que. i tried to upload them again this morning the ourmedia publishing tool gave me a error saying that the disk was full. i have no idea what this means or why im having a problem with these files. but if anyone has any advice, id really appreciate the help! thanks, mariah YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Don't hate the media, become the media.- Jello Biafra SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Adobe Premiere Compression
Hey Ryanne, I used Premiere on my PC for editing and I used to use it for compression, but the 'Cleaner EZ' add-in that gave me good fast-start compression pulls and illegal operation everytime I hit 'go' and crashes...so I no longer use it for compression...I have to import into Avid and get it to do the heavy lifting. That being said, I could come up with some screen shots? It's Premiere 6 Want 'em? On 7/24/05, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey kids does anyone use Premiere for editing? what are your compression settings? would you be willing to make a screencast/tutorial for freevlog? either way can you tell me your settings? people ask me all the time and i dont have premiere and every program is different with what works and what doesnt. thanks!! -ry -- ~Ryanne Hodson~ Start a Free Videoblog...Right Now freevlog.org -- -transcending traditional media- http://ryanedit.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~Devlon http://8bitme.blogspot.com http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Vlogme 05
Raymund wrote: So let's forget our G5's and Pentium 4's with Adobe Premiere Pro or iMovie for a moment. Let's talk about videoblogging without the computer, without the webcam. So this got me thinking. And playing around. Sunday, 24 July 2005. Ten years ago, there was Dogme 95. Now, there is Vlogme 05 (®, adapted and adopted: clark ov saturn, 05) >From this day forward, Vloggers have the OPTION to participate in a Vlogme 05 Vow of Chastity: 1. Filming must be done on location. Props and sets must not be brought in (if a particular prop is necessary for the story, a location must be chosen where this prop is to be found). This could be your home, a vehicle, outside, etc. The basic gist is you are not creating a set, just filming somewhere that already is. 2. The sound must never be produced apart from the images or vice versa. (Music must not be used unless it occurs where the scene is being filmed). This could be a radio in the car, stereo at home, etc, but the sound should be the ambient sound from the filming environment. No post-production music. 3. The camera (or phone-camera) must be hand-held. Any movement or immobility attainable in the hand is permitted. (The film must not take place where the camera is standing; filming must take place where the film takes place. i.e. the camera moves to the people, not the people to the camera) 4. The film must be in colour. Special lighting is not acceptable. (If there is too little light for exposure the scene must be cut or a single lamp be attached to the camera). Natural light. 5. Optical work and filters are forbidden, both in filming and in post-production. 6. The film must not contain superficial action. (Murders, weapons, etc. must not occur.) 7. Temporal and geographical alienation are forbidden. (That is to say that the film takes place here and now.) 8. Genre vlogs are not acceptable to be considered Vlogme05 certified. 9. No text/character-generated titles are allowed, unless they contain a blinking cursor. Titles created by hand and shot with the camera are permissible. 10. The director must not be credited in the vlog clip. (but may be in the vlog post). 11. Only cut edits allowed, and minimal editing. Whenever possible the Vlog clip should run start to finish in one shot, however cutting out unnecessary footage is desirable. It is also permissible to pause the recording in camera at any interval so that when played back the tape is already semi-edited. In such a way it is still possible to get rapid cuts, different angles, and time lapses. 12. Fade ins and outs are not allowed. It should feel like you've just put in a tape that you just shot, hit play and showed us a moving snapshot of time, then hit stop. 13. Special digital effects, filters, wipes, mixes not allowed. Slow-motion and superspeed are permitted, however the audio should sound accordingly slow or fast. 14. The primary object of the Vlogme 05 vlog must be someone other than the camera operator. It is equally desirable for the person being filmed to know or to not know they are being filmed. In fact, it may be 51/50 in favor of them not knowing until after they have been filmed. But we're not talking dirty closet sex tapes here. We're trying to capture natural life occurring, not people performing for the camera. It is important to note that http://ZipZapZop.com is not a Vlogme 05 project. However, there is frequently a blinking cursor. It is also important to note that in many cases the original Dogme 95 filmmakers did not abide by every rule in the vow of chastity. So I went ahead and made another janky vlog, and I'd like others to be members to participate. If you would like to contribute works to http://vlogme05.blogspot.com, and agree with the Vow of Chastity, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to become a contributing member. The goal is to have all posts to the Vlogme 05 vlog conform to the vow of chastity. I encourage you to explore the original Dogme 95 manifesto on their official site: http://www.dogme95.dk/menu/menuset.htm cheers, clark SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogme 05
On 7/24/05, Clark ov Saturn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this got me thinking. And playing around. Sunday, 24 July 2005. Ten years ago, there was Dogme 95. Now, there is Vlogme 05 ((r), adapted and adopted: clark ov saturn, 05) Vlogme05 ... That sounds awesome! I don't have a clue what I'd do. But I feel very inspired to do something :) Have to find someone to hold the camera though. Or maybe it's the beers talking (c'mon, I'm on vacation here!) Only the future will tell! -- Anders Clerwall blog: http://iscav.com/ vlog: http://randomshow.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: problem with internet archive (PAY FOR HOSTING)
I've given up on OurMedia (Archive.org) to host the LBV movies. The free concept is noble and appreciated, but it has been flat out slow. Basically, you get what you pay for. Most hosting services should be to serve your vids for a small monthly fee. Our file sizes range from 5-25 MB and we use mostly widescreen video. Dreamhost offers fast downloads and tons of bandwith. Peep this... http://www.leanbackvids.com/videoblog/seattle/fourth-of-jul-ivars-2005/ http://www.leanbackvids.com/videoblog/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, missingkittentv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks so much for your help, josh! i just tried uploading the files again, this time through the ourmedia website, instead of the publishing tool, and got IA urls almost instantly. the files dont show up on the archive contributions page, or in the que, at all, but somehow its working... i dont understand why, but im grateful, nonetheless. the original uploads have been in limbo for over 13 hrs. doesnt make a lick of sense to me. but i hope no one else is having this problem. thanks again! m --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the past few days, I have noticed the Archive loading movies more slowly than usual; I haven't uploaded anything to Ourmedia in the last week though as my most recent video will need to be taken down at some point soon and it's just easier to delete movies from my .mac account than it is to write the folks at ourmedia and ask that they take down the file when the need arises. Josh On Jul 24, 2005, at 10:42 AM, missingkittentv wrote: hey kids, is anyone else have trouble with the internet archive? i uploaded a video and screen-capture last night the files are still sitting in the que. i tried to upload them again this morning the ourmedia publishing tool gave me a error saying that the disk was full. i have no idea what this means or why im having a problem with these files. but if anyone has any advice, id really appreciate the help! thanks, mariah YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Don't hate the media, become the media.- Jello Biafra SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogme 05
Can you explain this one? Can you have credits? The way video moves around the web these days having credits embedded in the video seems like a requirement. --Steve On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Clark ov Saturn wrote: 10. The director must not be credited in the vlog clip. (but may be in the vlog post). --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogme 05
I'm with this (probably because most of my vids end up almost Vlogme05. not by choice, just what I got) People should tag them vlogme05 also. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clark ov Saturn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ten years ago, there was Dogme 95. Now, there is Vlogme 05 (®, adapted and adopted: clark ov saturn, 05) From this day forward, Vloggers have the OPTION to participate in a Vlogme 05 Vow of Chastity: So I went ahead and made another janky vlog, and I'd like others to be members to participate. If you would like to contribute works to http://vlogme05.blogspot.com, and agree with the Vow of Chastity, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to become a contributing member. The goal is to have all posts to the Vlogme 05 vlog conform to the vow of chastity. I encourage you to explore the original Dogme 95 manifesto on their official site: http://www.dogme95.dk/menu/menuset.htm cheers, clark YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogme 05
around the 24/7/05 Clark ov Saturn mentioned about [videoblogging] Vlogme 05 that: So this got me thinking. And playing around. Sunday, 24 July 2005. Ten years ago, there was Dogme 95. Now, there is Vlogme 05 (®, adapted and adopted: clark ov saturn, 05) From this day forward, Vloggers have the OPTION to participate in a vogme manifesto. november 2000. http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/manifesto/ point 9 about to be amended to: a vog is jean luc godard with a mac and a modem which i think captures the spirit of your vlogme 05 nicely :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogme 05
hmmm.. not wanting to piss on anyones fire but this seems like a bit of a redundant idea... the original dogme manifesto was partly about getting away from the styles of film-making predominant in hollywood, and bringing some energy back into the filmic form (there was more to it of course. but you get the gist) .. so two things spring to my mind... 1. vlogs haven;t fallen into any kind of style or formula that you can push or revolt against 2. if there is a common thread out there it is a style that already sits in the dogme frame, i.e. no special lighting, all handheld, no post production.. etc etc. SO just using a variation on the original dogme vow is like saying.. ok everyone.. do what you are already doing, a dogme style manifesto for vlogging would need to look at established vlog formulas and work out ways to disrupt them.. i don;t have the answers.. but i do think it;s very hard to react against something that hasn;t really formed yet? d YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogme 05
I'm in agreement with Duncan, that this seem redundant, but I can comment a bit on Steve. In the original Dogme movies the director was not credited in the film. Of course you still knew that Vinterberg did 'The Celebration', Von Trier did 'The Idiots' and so on. But that was because you read newspapers. If you just saw the movie you wouldn't know who directed it. As for videoblogs it seems to defeat the point to allow credits in the blog post, but not in the video. The two are one, if your video is something seperate from your blog post you're making short films. You've got video in a blog, not a videoblog. - Andreas On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:27:04 +0200, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain this one? Can you have credits? The way video moves around the web these days having credits embedded in the video seems like a requirement. --Steve On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Clark ov Saturn wrote: 10. The director must not be credited in the vlog clip. (but may be in the vlog post). --Steve -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogme 05
Well, all bets are off if you are going to take it seriously!:) I just thought it was funny. Actually, I thought it would be a different place to put up stuff that I like, but somewhere else for some other reason. Whatever reason that might be. Plus I figured something fun could come out of making this with someone on the other side of the country. You know, that sort of thing. Just come out and play Andreas and Duncan, it's just shits and giggles. And when you think about it: Dogme05 came out of yes, a rebellion against the Movie Machine, but they also just loved to make movies. And that is really why they all signed up in the first place. schlomo http://schlomolog.blogspot.com ps I think Anti wears the Vlogme05 Crown. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in agreement with Duncan, that this seem redundant, but I can comment a bit on Steve. In the original Dogme movies the director was not credited in the film. Of course you still knew that Vinterberg did 'The Celebration', Von Trier did 'The Idiots' and so on. But that was because you read newspapers. If you just saw the movie you wouldn't know who directed it. As for videoblogs it seems to defeat the point to allow credits in the blog post, but not in the video. The two are one, if your video is something seperate from your blog post you're making short films. You've got video in a blog, not a videoblog. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] can't upload or get answers to ourmedia.org
After the last 2 days I get error 550: can't create directory; file exists when I try uploading to ourmedia.org...have posted to their forum as well as emailed them directly...anyone know how to get this error stopped so I can upload 2 of my movies??? I am also trying google video but they take weeks at this point to get them live, and I can find only a few of my uploaded movied there by google video search once they are supposedly live. They have only a few videos they can take I guess as they are still experimenting, and I have already uploaded my 2 movies there and will be waiting weeks to have a chance at seeing them live on the internet. Anyone got any other ideas? Any other archiving places we can upload our movies to?? free?? : ) Also, anyone have experience with embedding RealPlayer to their website? I have having problems writing metafile to direct RealPlayer on my site to read movie files stored on my website at http://www.electmagnetic.net on the last page, movie viewer. Has anybody got any experience with embedding a player for their movies on their website?? Maybe Windows Media or WinAmp player embedded on their site? I'm at icsn2202 @yahoo.com where I will for sure get anyone's answer(s)thanks SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogme 05
oops! there's no fire to piss on... I see what you mean, Duncan, but ultimately, even though Dogme95 was a reactionary move, Vlogme05 is not, it is a bit of fun and a portal. And not quite so serious, really, tongue is ever-so-slightly in cheek. Ultimately, if you look closely at the majority of vlogs out there, some come close to the ideals of Vlogme05, but most do not meet the requirements. There are many with lots of post-production, lots of person talking to camera in hand,and that's GREAT!, I love them as much as those without. Some of the musical ones bring on some serious emotions. I'm not attempting to define vlogme05 as THE way Vlogging should be done, on the contrary, I believe anyone and everyone should do, create and post whatever they want in whatever form they want. Who am I to tell anyone else what they should do with their camera and computer? Vlog when you want, how you want, baby! Very much not an elitist on this. And I'm not defining exactly what a vlog is or should be. Vlogme05 is simply offering a portal, an option (as it said on the original post) for only that one specific kind of vlog post---Such that if you normally put lots of titles and music and editing into your vlog, but decide to put up a couple without all that, you could also post it to Vlogme05. In this way, everything can exist out there, all forms of vlog, but you'll never see a person holding the camera out talking to it on Vlogme05, you'll only see almost raw footage of things happening, I hope. So it's just a place for people to post a certain kind of vlog (in addition to their own space, or as an alternative to it). I would guess that nearly everyone has posted at least a couple vlogs that are like this, so I'd love to have them in one place. Starfire's paper boy loud car Midas touch is one that comes to mind, or Michael Verdi's Seagull which I just rewatched and I love s much, etc etc etc. god natt, clark --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan speakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. vlogs haven;t fallen into any kind of style or formula that you can push or revolt against YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogme 05
Hi Guys I lurk around here all the time but just had to come out and say something when this strand hit its stride. It spawned some thoughts... Just come out and play Andreas and Duncan, it's just shits and giggles. And when you think about it: Dogme05 came out of yes, a rebellion against the Movie Machine, but they also just loved to make movies. And that is really why they all signed up in the first place. schlomo But what if this is an interesting idea for more than shits and giggles - but also needs refining? For instance, is it 'native' to the medium of vlogging that one cannot have computer generated credits? Or would the opposite be true? That one can *only* have computer generated credits because the other would seem contrived in this format? I'm really interested in exploring more fully what makes a vlog a vlog in how it tells it's story and perhaps designing a set of parameters to work with for a while that will help develop a language that really works for the medium specifically - ie: small screen viewing, computer viewing, viewing in isolation, with text, with photographs, with low concentration spans (usually viewed as an escape from doing other things), often very diary like (so, again, perhaps the point *would* be to include the videographer rather than to exclude) etc... Perhaps this also pisses on the 'just for shits and giggles' fire and if so perhaps a separate vogme strand can be generated for the camudgeons around here? Lastly, I think an interesting thing to look at is how, differently from dogme and other storytelling mediums or creative mediums in general, is how vlogging is most often for the untrained, not necessarily arty, joe on the street as a way of creating content and self- expressing. It is more like folk art in that sense. So, I think that that idea should be taken into account when thinking up what would be specific and organic guidelines for a list of parameters of any kind (I have no idea what that would look like though. Perhaps just ways to nurture and refine the rawness of video/vlog making). Perhaps then that list of parameters just gets thrown away once it's been explored for a little while - which would probably be just as good an idea as creating one to begin with. By the way, the word 'manifesto' makes me cringe. By the way, this could all just be too academic and counter to the point. Just my reaction and my thoughts... Lisa http://walkla.blogs.com http://walklawithme.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: 150 - Group Tipping Point?
With all due respect (and you know I love you), I don't feel comfortable (too much) about the commercial or economic side of vlogging on this list or in the video conference. After the videoconference, most of my afternoon was spent on the phone with other vloggers who wanted to talk about various economic issues, monetization, and the like. That's perhaps why the topic of divergent lists comes up. Community evolves into society. The rules of engagement change. Peace out, ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh man. I just wanted to point out a correlation I saw. I'm not sure that we need to break apart this group in a zillion pieces. We've had a number of discussions in the past about other groups and message boards and after a whole bunch of back and forth emails we come to the conclusion that we like this list the way it is (I think we've concluded this at least 3 times in the last 8 or 9 months). That's not to say that things don't change. There are several other lists - there is an RSS list, a business list, and a content list. I'm subscribed to the content list but there hasn't been an email there in months because they just end up here. FYI, Verdi On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:14 PM, David Meade wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, some possible sub-groups that could evolve out of this one: 1) Vlogger-newbies: ... 2) Vlogger-politics: ... 3) Vlogger-press: ... 4) Vlogger-legal: ... 5) Vlogger-tech: ... 6) Vlogger-compose: ... Yeah, I was thinking the other day that this had grown large enough that a more forum-style board (where posts can be grouped into sub-topics) would be helpful. Maybe thats a good topic for vloggercon :-) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Vlogme 05
No murders? Damn. There goes my contribution... Now I will have to set up a car chase. 6. The film must not contain superficial action. (Murders, weapons, etc. must not occur.) Carl http://carlweaver.blogspot.com Carl Weaver Photographer http://www.carlweaver.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Blip.tv hosting (was: [videoblogging] Re: problem with internet archive (PAY FOR HOSTING))
On Jul 24, 2005, at 4:12 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: Most hosting services should be to serve your vids for a small monthly fee. Our file sizes range from 5-25 MB and we use mostly widescreen video. Dreamhost offers fast downloads and tons of bandwith. or, you can give us a try and host your video at Blip.tv for free. so far we're keeping up with demand./self promotion http://www.leanbackvids.com/videoblog/seattle/fourth-of-jul-ivars-2005/ superb! setting fireworks to NIN, pure genius. (adding your feed to ANT) cheers, - Jared SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
