[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
Biggest problem with Wii is minimal storage, whereas 360 and PS3 have drives. I've been working on various content delivery to the devices (Xbox is exception- no browser), and I've loved downloading media directly to the hard drive on the PS3. And yeah, Youtube works great as do many iPhone apps. IIRC, I think PS3 and XBox now support DiVX flavors. It's a step in a direction where many people aren't looking (don't rule out future of DS and the current support on the PSP). It might not be our current selection of trendy web apps, but it's living room-reaching, which might be big for some projects that we may come across in the future. I've always marveled at how Apple TV is supposed to compete in a culture (US anyway) where most of its functionality is in our cable or satellite boxes, almost all of which are coming with built in TiVo. Maybe Apple can get into gaming? Heheh, yeah right. :) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can but mainly only Youtube right now, because the Wii is using Flash 7 I think?but I did find a way on Cnet to do something pretty neat with the Wii, a media stream device, download Orb and then use the Wii to watch videos or listen to music, I have yet to try it out but plan to soon, so I will let you know.. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton frank@ wrote: I just saw this chart - makes me think the path to the TV will not be through the Apple TV, but rather through the Wii (or PS3 or XBox360): http://www.vgchartz.com Has anyone experimented with online video on the Nintendo Wii? Looks like i will have a Wii in a few days. :) Building a Wii interface for Mefeedia may be a pet project over the holidays. Anyone else have one and watch online video? Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
[videoblogging] Adaptive Path / CNN Website Sketchsheet Vlog
Hey All, I bit of a different take, The objective was how to make a mundane sheet on a wall interesting to others, when in point of fact it really interests me. Here's the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHBqoxRo2U Zennie
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
Okay, FAIL on my forum skills, I missed your original post. One thing I didn't clarify is that while the Wii has crap for storage, it falls into the 'streamy' category of things like present-day iPhones. There's a series of radio stations I listen to that are streamed via flash, and it works up until a point when the Wii's memory fills up. On the XBOX side, since I spend a lot of time sorta-kinda around the game space, I've been working out content delivery in an analog capacity. What's important here isn't 'oh how old fashioned' but I believe that analog media and its supporting materials is an art unto it self. Yes, you can certainly download a game, or you can buy the Collector's Edition with two tons of loot, nice posters, coffee table books etc to go along with it (look at the local ebGames or Gamestop, strategy guides now have these GORGEOUS art books). Pushing photo and audio media to xbox is done either by CD or flash drive at this time. The PS3 has the most well, promise, kind of. It's finally picking up in sales since Sony lowered the price; game developers take a million years to get things out the door, but I'll be damned, that hardware is awesome. Everything seems so right about it including the 'Install Other OS'. I use the built in browser (this is the same as my PSP too) to download the audio files from my music show to my PS3/PSP's drive. Here's where I see a lot of opportunity (and I've seen this for a while as many of the old school vloggers have dabbled in advanced content areas far longer than I have): the game space is unique in the sense that it engages a tremendous amount of media engagement. Audio, video, visuals, storytelling, social connections and the like. Nearly all of the skills we have as vloggers translate very well. I'd certainly recommend paying attention to the space as its predicted to hit some 40 billion dollars by 2010. Hundreds of millions of VC money is aimed at the game space. The writer's strike has so many people saying 'eff this, we'll do it ourselves' and more nerd/starlet hybrid companies will come out of it. And finally, about half of everyone plays games in any capacity big or small. /takes breath That's so exciting. Problem is, this is a walled garden of the most intense caliber. If it's not game titles that take 3 years and 20 million to make, you have to pound your way through to get on the console, get the dev kits (hey, Sony cut the price of their dev kit to $10,000 bucks, a 50% savings!). To wrap up this horrendously long post is a simple point: that we have such a DIY spirit that absolutely no medium should be a barrier (heh, ever wonder why some of us 'get' things like Second Life? It's a disruptor, just like all the other stuff we've done). All that connectivity, all the embracing of things like Flash and file downloading can be a HUGE win for us, and helps us muscle our content into a place that will be king for a long time to come: the living room. What I want to know is, of all the vimeos and blips and viddler dabbles youtubes itunes revvers seesmics etc etc etc of the world whose going to land in the living room first, on the devices that need no explanation whatsoever? This is gonna be big. ;) ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw this chart - makes me think the path to the TV will not be through the Apple TV, but rather through the Wii (or PS3 or XBox360): http://www.vgchartz.com Has anyone experimented with online video on the Nintendo Wii? Looks like i will have a Wii in a few days. :) Building a Wii interface for Mefeedia may be a pet project over the holidays. Anyone else have one and watch online video? Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use...
John yep, definitely , your version is so damn hilarious-keep on...I am still laughing JohnDkar www.youtube.com/johndkar http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] iPod touch and vlog watching
Where can someone go on the web to learn how to convert an existing WMV video file to Quicktime iPod?? Try ImTOO Video and Audio Suite (http://imtoo.com/video-and-audio-suite.html). I think the 'free' version allows you to convert videos up to 5 minutes (with some nag screens). And the full version is $45. This software actually helped salvage some of my corrupted AVIs. . . . Kenya Allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us http://kenya.allmond.us/vlog VM/F 202-478-0490 To thine own self be true. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Wordpress Issue - Please Assist
I'm guessing that the reason for this is that on own WordPress blog you have to use the actual HTML code provided by Blip or whoever instead of the tags that you can use on WordPress.com ... unless there is some plugin that allows you to use the tags. - Original Message From: darbycoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:55:53 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Wordpress Issue - Please Assist Ok so I'm doing my first - host on your own - Wordpress blog. I used to do a lot of HTML and JAVA and early FLASH back in the early to mid nineties but gave up web coding when I become an English major and thought I had better things to write than scripts and webpages. So here's the deal... I've exported my old wordpress hosted site - and brought it back into my new shiny dreamhost hosted site. There's just one problem. All of my [audio...mp3] and [bliptv...=1] tags (truncated for examples sake) aren't working. Feel free to take a look. The top post is a perfect example. Now I'm just now picking up on plugins and whatnot - and yes I tried turning visual design off, and turning it back on...so I don't know what hte problem is. If anyone has a clue it would be greatly appreciated. Love the forum - love the daily links and discussion - glad to be a part of and grateful for your help in advance. Cheers, Scott Stead CNN Broadcast Engineer by day - Bloggie/TechGeek/Thinky/SocialMediaNut by night. Yahoo! Groups Links Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: iPod touch and vlog watching
Students in my last videoblogging class had good success with the Free iPod Video Converter, which among other things specifically converts WMV files to be iPod compatible: http://www.ipod-video-converter.org/ I am not aware of any length limitation. It's pretty easy to use as well. Cheryl --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, gerry tejeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can someone go on the web to learn how to convert an existing WMV video file to Quicktime iPod?? Thanks! Gerry T
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use...
Great idea! I'll let Bonny know and see if she can contact Christine. -Lan www.LanBui.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lan Bui lan.bui.vloggroup@ wrote: BTW, I could not sit through her version. Your version actually got me all the way through, I laughed and actually heard and understood her message. Oh, man. You need to send Bonny out to interview Christine Breese on the subject of Monkey Mind. It would truly be the Greatest Thing Ever. ;) Chris
[videoblogging] Happy Holidays
Hi everyone, I just wanted to promote a video I made about the holidays from youtube. !0 Things I hate About the holidays! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy1lfy-NRdI I hope everyone has a great holidays! Take care Jill youtube.com/xgobobeanx
Re: [videoblogging] iPod touch and vlog watching
On Dec 22, 2007 11:42 PM, gerry tejeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can someone go on the web to learn how to convert an existing WMV video file to Quicktime iPod?? Nathan of Cruxy created a great site: http:/mux.am It'll take whatever video you have an convert it for you. really versatile. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
Biggest problem with Wii is minimal storage, whereas 360 and PS3 have drives. I've been working on various content delivery to the devices (Xbox is exception- no browser), and I've loved downloading media The Xbox 360 has no browser, but you can stream to it via Windows Media Connect if you have either WMP11 or Zune software installed. So if you can get your video on someone's computer, getting to their television through the Xbox 360 is relatively easy: http://www.jakeludington.com/xbox/20060321_easy_divx_to_xbox_360_streaming.h tml IIRC, I think PS3 and XBox now support DiVX flavors. It's a step in a direction where many people aren't looking (don't rule out future of DS and the current support on the PSP). Xbox supported DivX through some convoluted steps up until Dec 4, 2007. Now it's easy. Maybe Apple can get into gaming? Heheh, yeah right. :) Maybe Apple can buy Nintendo and figure out how to get enough Wii consoles into the consumer pipeline. They do both make shiny white hardware. ;) Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
[videoblogging] What up with archive.org?
Is anybody else having trouble with the Internet Archives today? The front page is loading funny, and I can't get to the Prelinger Collection. Is it hacking? Server issues? An ordered shutdown by the DMCA Gestapo? Whatever it is, I hope it's temporary... On a completely related note, I'm looking to create news-style graphics for a parody I'm doing. Anybody have any tips? Tricks? Hints? Tutorial links? I don't much care if they're slick modern graphics or cheesy 1970's style... either kind will work for my project. I'll be putting it together in AfterEffects. Thanks! Chris
Re: [videoblogging] iPod touch and vlog watching
Thanks Jay. This site ROCKS!! Gerry T The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 22, 2007 11:42 PM, gerry tejeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can someone go on the web to learn how to convert an existing WMV video file to Quicktime iPod?? Nathan of Cruxy created a great site: http:/mux.am It'll take whatever video you have an convert it for you. really versatile. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 The Gerry T Show Where Dating Mating Always Come Together http://TheGerryTShow.Blip.TV http://GerryT.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: What up with archive.org?
Eep! Never mind, archive.org is up and functional. You'd think by now I'd learn not to panic about sites experiencing temporary downtime, but I know the RIAA and CRIA and whatever other RIA's are out there have been on a holy tear against torrent and other sharing sites, and I worry about arguably innocent sites like archive.org getting caught up in the sweep... Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else having trouble with the Internet Archives today? The front page is loading funny, and I can't get to the Prelinger Collection. Is it hacking? Server issues? An ordered shutdown by the DMCA Gestapo? Whatever it is, I hope it's temporary... On a completely related note, I'm looking to create news-style graphics for a parody I'm doing. Anybody have any tips? Tricks? Hints? Tutorial links? I don't much care if they're slick modern graphics or cheesy 1970's style... either kind will work for my project. I'll be putting it together in AfterEffects. Thanks! Chris
Re: [videoblogging] What up with archive.org?
On Dec 23, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Chris wrote: Is anybody else having trouble with the Internet Archives today? it's been having a lot of problems over the past week or so [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every 6 months or so, someone starts a conversation about what we're doing with videoblogging. how we make make a living. how we express ourselves. how we remain independent. how we become artists and/or businesspeople. Cheryl started the conversation on her blog. She took time to write her ideas and show examples. http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ Let's keep the conversation over there so its in one place. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Why i must leave Blip
I am looking my old vids on archive.org they runs fine ..imediately All my latest posts are on Blip 10 minutes to upload my latest vid with my ISP ( France Telecom) ( FT is the most important provider in France) I love Blip and all the team I think Blip was the better way for videoblogging in the world But now i must leave it ;-( Loiez D. http://www.loiez.org skype:ultimcodex [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Why i must leave Blip
Maybe English is not your first language .. but I see no reason given for leaving Blip in this message. - Original Message - From: Loiez D. I am looking my old vids on archive.org they runs fine ..imediately All my latest posts are on Blip 10 minutes to upload my latest vid with my ISP ( France Telecom) ( FT is the most important provider in France) I love Blip and all the team I think Blip was the better way for videoblogging in the world But now i must leave it ;-( Richard Amirault Boston, MA, USA http://n1jdu.org http://bostonfandom.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hf9u2ZdlQ
Re: [videoblogging] Why i must leave Blip
Maybe English is not your first language .. but I see no reason given for leaving Blip in this message. Loiz says that blip is slow in France. Jeffrey, is blip slow for you in Paris? All my latest posts are on Blip 10 minutes to upload my latest vid with my ISP ( France Telecom) ( FT is the most important provider in France) Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media yeah..lets continue to keep the conversation over on cheryl's blog. its not about whether Epic Fu is good or bad. its really about what values all of us want to maintain as more of us continue to carve a living making online video...while staying independent. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
RE: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
Interesting how the videoblogging community eats its own. It's too bad. Two years ago I thought this was a really great community where we help each other get bigger and better. But I don't hold those opinions anymore. This kind of stuff is EXACTLY why I don't participate here much anymore. Let me know when it changes and I'll be back. Robert Scoble ### _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:27 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing 64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingc http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ row.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every 6 months or so, someone starts a conversation about what we're doing with videoblogging. how we make make a living. how we express ourselves. how we remain independent. how we become artists and/or businesspeople. Cheryl started the conversation on her blog. She took time to write her ideas and show examples. http://www.hummingc http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ row.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ Let's keep the conversation over there so its in one place. Jay -- http://jaydedman. http://jaydedman.com com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry http://ryanishungry.com .com Twitter: http://twitter. http://twitter.com/jaydedman com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr. http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
I don't know... I only fell into this community about a month ago, but I've found folks to be fairly friendly and supportive. But I also understand that bigger and better don't always go hand-in-hand, and the more a community expands, the greater the chance you'll get a few cranks showing up to the party. I think the best thing to do is to focus on the positive communities WITHIN the community at large. Relatively safe havens, like this and similar groups, where I don't imagine a lot of dickishness is tolerated. But that's just my take... Chris --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the videoblogging community eats its own. It's too bad. Two years ago I thought this was a really great community where we help each other get bigger and better. But I don't hold those opinions anymore. This kind of stuff is EXACTLY why I don't participate here much anymore. Let me know when it changes and I'll be back. Robert Scoble
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
Robert, Generally it's true that this is a really great community that helps each other get better. I'm not sure what you saw in this conversation that made you think otherwise. I mean it's hardly a childish flame war, and I've seen my share of those over and over again in the nearly 20 years I've been having conversations online--and I'm sure you have too. These are for the most part legitimate questions and concerns raised in good faith and discussed openly and honestly. So it's really hard for me to understand what you are talking about here. You surely know that some of the conversations that are hardest to have are the ones that are often the most important. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting how the videoblogging community eats its own. It's too bad. Two years ago I thought this was a really great community where we help each other get bigger and better. But I don't hold those opinions anymore. This kind of stuff is EXACTLY why I don't participate here much anymore. Let me know when it changes and I'll be back. Robert Scoble ### _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:27 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing 64 comments and counting. http://www.hummingc http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ row.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: Every 6 months or so, someone starts a conversation about what we're doing with videoblogging. how we make make a living. how we express ourselves. how we remain independent. how we become artists and/or businesspeople. Cheryl started the conversation on her blog. She took time to write her ideas and show examples. http://www.hummingc http://www.hummingcrow.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ row.com/2007/12/21/new-media/ Let's keep the conversation over there so its in one place. Jay -- http://jaydedman. http://jaydedman.com com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry http://ryanishungry.com .com Twitter: http://twitter. http://twitter.com/jaydedman com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr. http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
Hey Frank, I've had a Wii for a while now and it's not the best platform for watching Internet mainly because I think that there is some memory limitation to it. If you try to watch a bunch of youtube videos in a row or a longer form video on Google Video it will crash after about 20 or 30 minutes. I'm not sure why this is, but I suspect it's a memory issue. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw this chart - makes me think the path to the TV will not be through the Apple TV, but rather through the Wii (or PS3 or XBox360): http://www.vgchartz.com Has anyone experimented with online video on the Nintendo Wii? Looks like i will have a Wii in a few days. :) Building a Wii interface for Mefeedia may be a pet project over the holidays. Anyone else have one and watch online video? Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
RE: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
let's not get into a Scoble bashing. robert, you cant expect to jump into a community of 2000 people, piss on us, and then not get hate. do you? Oh, the old don't beat up on the community threat. It's funny. This community has grown very little over the past year. Why is that? Especially when compared to the growth in places like YouTube, Justin.tv, and Seesmic. In two months Seesmic has gone from zero to more than 1,000 videos posted a day but we haven't seen anything close to that kind of growth in the community here. Why is that? I'm used to the hate. Bring it on. But if you do that'll be just proving me right. Instead of attacking maybe the right question is how can we help each other? I quit Microsoft because of this community (seriously, this community played a big role in my decision) and it just hasn't lived up to its potential. Why is that? Robert Scoble [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
That would be the lack of storage problem Eric Rice referred to in a different post. The Wii has no place to buffer video files (other than the very limited storage). When you run out of space for buffering video it barfs. It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Robert [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Apple TV dead?
I got a Mac Mini instead of the Apple TV. Much more versatile, but still far from perfect. For instance you should be able to browse for new content from your couch, you can't you need to add the content to another computer in your house to get it to your TV. Thats the main issue I've had with it. It would also be cool if they added a YouTube widget to it (a la the iphone) so you can browse and watch that stuff from your couch too. One behavior they must have overlooked when they were designing this was the channel surfing mentality--thats the main way most people have learned to look for new video content over the years--kicked back, on the couch, flipping channels. Until someone comes up with something that is as good as that for internet video, they will fail. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had it not required me to buy some gawdawful widescreen LCD TV I can't afford and have it sit there all ugly and shiny on my wall I would have considered buying an Apple TV. I like the concept. But my 25 year old 4:3 TV hidden away in a cabinet looks better, even w/the low res of letterboxing, then any widescreen TV I could ever afford. I like the concept of Appletv Not having it work with Ye Olde Tv Set may have been a big mistake. Brook On 12/22/07, Steve Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is sort of a refrain for me this time of year, but wait until macworld It may be they will introduce a new model then. And they don't have a ton of inventory, so they're not promoting it. Though it would have made sense to introduce a new model before xmas On the other hand, jobs has said it is an experiment Anyway, we may soon see -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Apple TV dead?
I totally agree that the MacMini is better for 60-inch TV watching than the AppleTV (I own both and wish I never had purchased an AppleTV). Robert _ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Streeter Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:04 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Apple TV dead? I got a Mac Mini instead of the Apple TV. Much more versatile, but still far from perfect. For instance you should be able to browse for new content from your couch, you can't you need to add the content to another computer in your house to get it to your TV. Thats the main issue I've had with it. It would also be cool if they added a YouTube widget to it (a la the iphone) so you can browse and watch that stuff from your couch too. One behavior they must have overlooked when they were designing this was the channel surfing mentality--thats the main way most people have learned to look for new video content over the years--kicked back, on the couch, flipping channels. Until someone comes up with something that is as good as that for internet video, they will fail. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@ mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had it not required me to buy some gawdawful widescreen LCD TV I can't afford and have it sit there all ugly and shiny on my wall I would have considered buying an Apple TV. I like the concept. But my 25 year old 4:3 TV hidden away in a cabinet looks better, even w/the low res of letterboxing, then any widescreen TV I could ever afford. I like the concept of Appletv Not having it work with Ye Olde Tv Set may have been a big mistake. Brook On 12/22/07, Steve Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is sort of a refrain for me this time of year, but wait until macworld It may be they will introduce a new model then. And they don't have a ton of inventory, so they're not promoting it. Though it would have made sense to introduce a new model before xmas On the other hand, jobs has said it is an experiment Anyway, we may soon see -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr. http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ com/photos/ari/ photos http://ari.typepad. http://ari.typepad.com com http://tigerbeat. http://tigerbeat.vox.com vox.com blogs http://del.icio. http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter. http://twitter.com/tigerbeat com/tigerbeat -- ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
I quit Microsoft because of this community (seriously, this community played a big role in my decision) and it just hasn't lived up to its potential. Why is that? no one is here to hate you Robert. its the holidays. (but you have to admit that you just walked into a room of people and said, you guys suck) since you're the one who started the thread of what's wrong with this community...why dont you kick it off. what potential should we have? you sound like the father who tries to shame his children with ambiguous language showing disappointment. the family looks down at the ground wondering what they did wrong. (turns out daddy had a bad day at the office) Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
ok ok this is nutty zadi and steve are adults they responded to cheryl's post like adults they got some criticism (as all of us do from time to time when we stick our necks out as zs do and even cheryl in her post) they handled it well. i don't see any comments on that post 'beating up' on anyone. ok ok there were some harsh words between jeffery and calcanis, yeah but i don't see anyone beating up on epic fu. cheryl criticized their show. criticism is inherent in blogging and vlogging, we've all experienced it (ugh, good and bad), we've all grown from it. ( right?) people are passionate about this stuff people want to talk about this stuff and i think that's a good thing. we're all taking chances with putting our work out there trying to make money and it's not always easy to talk about but i think the discussion over there has been pretty civil. On Dec 23, 2007 8:18 PM, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no one is here to hate you Robert. its the holidays. (but you have to admit that you just walked into a room of people and said, you guys suck) Well, if the shoe fits. I've seen this community beat up on commercial interests in the past. Including the company I work for and hardly anyone stood up and said stop (and that is far from the only one beaten up here - heck, when the community starts beating up on Zadi I know it's just done for). Schlomo is one I'll always remember sticking up for me and he has my undying respect because of that. How many of you said stop it when this latest blog post came out beating up on Zadi's show? I can look at all the comments to see how many of the 2,000 who are hanging out here. Not many. About the same number who stood up when the target was me or PodTech. Despite PodTech investing hundreds of thousands of dollars in this community. Tonight it's not about PodTech, but Zadi has invested tons of hours in this community and has evangelized it on many a stage that I've witnessed. So, where are the ones who stood up for her today? Not many. A community becomes how it treats its leaders. This one isn't well. what potential should we have? I don't know anymore. I find that I'm doing less and less videoblogging and more and more video streaming. http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ and http://www.mogulus.com http://www.mogulus.com/ is totally changing how I think video on the Internet will be done. This community used to be fun. But the fun is happening over on Seesmic where they taunt newcomers to dance. Not sure how a community changes its stripes once it's given up that high ground. Sorry for being a killjoy on this weekend before Christmas, but this community needs to do better if it wants to grow. Me? I'll be over dancing on Seesmic and hanging out on Twitter. Robert Scoble [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Me http://RyanEdit.com Twitter--http://twitter.com/Ryanne Documenting Green http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org iChat/AIM VideoRodeo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
I've seen the death of communities before and this one sure seems to be in decline. Message traffic is down. Helpfulness is down. And evidence of beating up on leadership is up. Good luck with that. See ya over on Twitter. Robert Robert Scoble ladies and gentleman. he'll be playing over at http://scobleizer.com/. god bless. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
you guys suck just kidding! there have been a few bad apples in here, and drawn out terrible back-and-forths that made me stop reading this group. that said, the community is still here (or, there, or various places if we look). cheryl colan's thread is proof that the videoblogging community exists, and is sensitive and strong and passionate. however i prefer to keep up with that community on Twitter for the most part. all my very best of the season to you, each and every one. -chuck plug! working on the final ((?)) Vlog Santa going up soon: http://vlogsanta.tv
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting that I've gotten several emails in the past few minutes agreeing with me, though (funny too that they asked not to be dragged into this here). I've seen the death of communities before and this one sure seems to be in decline. Message traffic is down. Helpfulness is down. And evidence of beating up on leadership is up. I've seen this movie a couple of times. It typically forks when one group of folks becomes professional and another group stays indie. It happens in waves in the film and music business, and it happens on the interwebs. When blogging was fresh and new a contingent of folks got really upset that we--gasp!!!--paid bloggers for working on Engadget, Joystiq, Autoblog, TUAW.com, etc. Of course, those bloggers maintained their voice and ethics--they just got paid to do the same thing. The indie folks believed that commerce had no place in blogging, while other thought gee, this is fun to do for an hour a day... I wonder what it would be like if I could quit my job and do this full time? A portion, not all, of the folks who didn't grow either commercially or non-commercially started to look at the increasing profile of the other bloggers and get more and more upset. Haters hate... as Kanye would say. I'm no expert to the history of this group (i've been on and off of it lurking for a while), but it seems to be a similar issue going on in vlogging. One group is getting commercial success while others are holding on to the non-commercial roots. At the end of the day vlogging, blogging, twittering, justin.tv-ing, etc. can be done for any number of reasons. Some folks play music for a living, some folks live to play music... different strokes/all good. Everyone should be happy for each other and the choices they make. I never come down hard on the artist trying to make a living... it ain't easy. best jason
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
Thats fine for creating video, but I the issue here is watching video, even streaming video needs to be cashed somewhere while it's being streamed from the Internet, it seems that thats the problem with the Wii. As near as I can tell there isn't any way to create and post video from the Wii. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com www.billstreeter.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the lack of storage problem Eric Rice referred to in a different post. The Wii has no place to buffer video files (other than the very limited storage). When you run out of space for buffering video it barfs. It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Robert [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
256 MB runs out quickly. Also, can't save the file then. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be the lack of storage problem Eric Rice referred to in a different post. The Wii has no place to buffer video files (other than the very limited storage). When you run out of space for buffering video it barfs. It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Robert [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
I'll be testing Vimeo on these consoles, only since I don't personally want to move backwards in production quality. I'm on the TV, maybe on a home theater, I want HIGHER rez and prod quality, not less. That's my preference for the living room (and why I hate the Apple TV)... I want to make those HDMI cables SING, baby, SING. Qik's also not available to the world, it's marketed like 'hey phone people look!' and it's the same mono-sell that we're so plagued with, hehe. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Doesn't qik.com proxy from a video camera (cell phones being their primary camera)? The recipient still has to cache a file on the other side, I believe, which doesn't solve the Wii problem, which is a problem of needing somewhere to temporarily cache the video you are watching. Wii has no problem with short videos, but runs into trouble when it's attempting to download minute 8 and you're watching minute 4 and there's no more room. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
Re: [videoblogging] unexpected benefit of posting to blip
For my day job I handle new media for a law school and one of my tasks has been to create 2 minute excerpts from the law school's vast library of television shows (that cover topics from health to politics to law to history) and post them on the web. I had been posting solely to youtube and clip syndicate and we do pretty well there, but last week I uploaded our whole library to blip... and what did I discover? Our posts are being picked up by google alerts! blip is definitely a good video host...but i just got my first google alert from a youtube video. maybe someone from google read your email. Solar Las Vegas: Center for Energy Research By [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RyanIsHungry) that they're testing at the CER. Thanks Bob! Author: RyanIsHungry Keywords: solar green las vegas nevada sustainable alternative energy university center for research bob boehm ryanishungry Added: December 23, 2007. YouTube :: Tag // solar - http://youtube.com/rss/tag/+solar.rss Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Video: http://ryanishungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
I was mostly worried about watching video and if this was an easy path to the TV. There are 17+ million Wii owners out there, which is way higher than Apple TV or even the iPhone. The other interesting factor is that the Wii is opening up a whole different demographic that is buying game consoles. It is cool to have a Wii at your 30-something cocktail parties... I did some research and found this: http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/04/13/wii-browser-out-but-why-flash-7-and-not-8-or-9 The only complaint I have is that Flash doesn't garbage collect correctly causing memory leaks, eventually resulting in a lockup of the entire system. It's more noticable on video streams. Now i am wishing Adobe would upgrade their Flash SDK for Opera browsers from v7 to v9. Maybe this problem will be fixed in newer versions. Still very optimistic and maybe Flash Lite can be used with Opera. I am determined to make this path to the TV as easy as possible. I've been dreaming of using Mefeedia.com as a Web-based TiVo for Web Video, combined with the Wii which has a built-in Opera browser and WiFi support. XBox and PS3 show some promise as well. Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be testing Vimeo on these consoles, only since I don't personally want to move backwards in production quality. I'm on the TV, maybe on a home theater, I want HIGHER rez and prod quality, not less. That's my preference for the living room (and why I hate the Apple TV)... I want to make those HDMI cables SING, baby, SING. Qik's also not available to the world, it's marketed like 'hey phone people look!' and it's the same mono-sell that we're so plagued with, hehe. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington jake@ wrote: It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Doesn't qik.com proxy from a video camera (cell phones being their primary camera)? The recipient still has to cache a file on the other side, I believe, which doesn't solve the Wii problem, which is a problem of needing somewhere to temporarily cache the video you are watching. Wii has no problem with short videos, but runs into trouble when it's attempting to download minute 8 and you're watching minute 4 and there's no more room. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
[videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
I've been a part of this community for over a year, having taken over from Peter at Mefeedia.com one year ago. Since then, this community has been nothing but supportive. I've learned and grown from being a part of this community. I hope that I've been able to contribute both on this group and over at Mefeedia. The artists here are amazing - in my 7 years living in LA, i have never seen such a large amount of collaboration and giving back as i have seen here. Sure, criticism happens - but 99% of the time, it is constructive / great conversation and the non-constructive ones are typically ignored. At the end of the day, the work people are producing speaks for itself - and those videos continue to get better and better. Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I find there's a nugget of truth in the cliche that you get from a community what you put into it, both in quality and kind. A cooperative spirit and an open mind will generaly yield a more positive experience than an attitude of Help me! Help me! Validate me! Love me! FUCK YOU! Or so I hear. ;) Chris
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing
Glad to see Calacanis took time off from raping puppies, or whatever he does out there in the Hall of Doom, to be the voice of reason here. Funny to see Scoble trying to melodramatically leave all of us loser videobloggers in the pre-video-streaming dust. How can anyone with as much experience in web video possibly compare Seesmic or Justin tv et al to what most of us are doing? It's like comparing a phone call with grandma to an episode of The Office. Two completely different methods of communications. I'm tired to think clear after sitting in an airport bar for 8 hours waiting for a flight that was eventually canceled. As for the commercial vs personal shitbag salad of an argument that perpetually pops up, I say, if you can make money and still get your point across, just fucking do it. You don't hear people complaining about Da Vinci taking money to paint the last supper. JC was the original product placement. Does anyone remember who paid him to paint it? Goodnight you shitty, worthless community of losers. I'll never leave you. On Dec 24, 2007 12:22 AM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I find there's a nugget of truth in the cliche that you get from a community what you put into it, both in quality and kind. A cooperative spirit and an open mind will generaly yield a more positive experience than an attitude of Help me! Help me! Validate me! Love me! FUCK YOU! Or so I hear. ;) Chris Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Forget Apple TV - What about the Nintendo Wii ??
I'd suspect gaming-related or nintendo-related content (video) is an easier sell to the console owners than run of the mill web video they can get on youtube anyway. I lose much sleep over this, heh. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was mostly worried about watching video and if this was an easy path to the TV. There are 17+ million Wii owners out there, which is way higher than Apple TV or even the iPhone. The other interesting factor is that the Wii is opening up a whole different demographic that is buying game consoles. It is cool to have a Wii at your 30-something cocktail parties... I did some research and found this: http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/04/13/wii-browser-out-but-why-flash-7-and-not-8-or-9 The only complaint I have is that Flash doesn't garbage collect correctly causing memory leaks, eventually resulting in a lockup of the entire system. It's more noticable on video streams. Now i am wishing Adobe would upgrade their Flash SDK for Opera browsers from v7 to v9. Maybe this problem will be fixed in newer versions. Still very optimistic and maybe Flash Lite can be used with Opera. I am determined to make this path to the TV as easy as possible. I've been dreaming of using Mefeedia.com as a Web-based TiVo for Web Video, combined with the Wii which has a built-in Opera browser and WiFi support. XBox and PS3 show some promise as well. Regards, -Frank http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice eric@ wrote: I'll be testing Vimeo on these consoles, only since I don't personally want to move backwards in production quality. I'm on the TV, maybe on a home theater, I want HIGHER rez and prod quality, not less. That's my preference for the living room (and why I hate the Apple TV)... I want to make those HDMI cables SING, baby, SING. Qik's also not available to the world, it's marketed like 'hey phone people look!' and it's the same mono-sell that we're so plagued with, hehe. ER --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington jake@ wrote: It's funny. I'm using http://www.qik.com http://www.qik.com/ now and it doesn't need ANY local storage. Just throws all the bits up to a server. Why couldn't that be used with the Wii? Doesn't qik.com proxy from a video camera (cell phones being their primary camera)? The recipient still has to cache a file on the other side, I believe, which doesn't solve the Wii problem, which is a problem of needing somewhere to temporarily cache the video you are watching. Wii has no problem with short videos, but runs into trouble when it's attempting to download minute 8 and you're watching minute 4 and there's no more room. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
