[videoblogging] Re: List of video sites?

[khyrosfinalcut]

Hey Sanford-

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=112147

Here's a whole bunch for ya, list initially to my attention by Chris 
Brogan.

---
-David Kowarsky
http://focus.blip.tv
http://network2.tv 


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hey all -
> 
> I am working to increase the reach of video hosting and directory 
sites - but have not found a good list of sites yet.  I am working on 
one for my political friends at www.politicalwarez.com.  If you have 
any suggestions of ones I have forgotten, please send it along?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sanford
> ---
> Sanford Dickert
> Rawlings Atlantic Inc
> www.goodnightburbank.com
>

[videoblogging] Re: vlog

[khyrosfinalcut]

Wasn't it the case that  "blog" once implied personal but eventually 
became a generic enough term such that personal or professional is not
inherent?

There a problem with assuming the same thing will eventually happen with
"Vlog"? I mean, I think that reacting with wild negativity to being
associated with the term only hampers the process of the term/the medium
getting to the point of being taken seriously.

That said, I hope I don't have to get overweight to become a respected
critic.

-David Kowarsky
http://network2.tv 
http://focus.blip.tv 




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Savarino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I agree with Andrew...
>
> Vlog is simply short for video blog.
> Blog is short for Web log.
>
>
> So which of these words are we debating?...
>
> Video: Most people recognize moving pictures, regardless of its
contents.
>
> Web: This is an obvious given.
>
> Log: This is just a list, usually tracked by time.
>
> So where could we possibly be confused?
> Maybe it is the combined word "blog"?
>
> Do people associate the word blog with only personal online journals?
> If so, I do not share that limited view of blogging. Both blog and
> vlog plainly define a very general use of the Web.
>
> Maybe we should be creating a standard list of video genres? After
> that, lets build a rating scale. All we then need is two overweight
> critics. Vloggywood here we come!
>
> -Matt
> http://vlogmap.org
>
> (And yes, I have thought about moving to a better domain.)
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> andrew@ wrote:
> >
> > When someone engages in the regular activity of posting online
video,
> > be it aimless, their own show or their own favorite links, in each
> > case, its a an ongoing log of videos.
> >
> > YouTube (which uses the word 'vlog' in their interface), Blip and
> > many other blog software packs are content management systems for
> > logging data, be it text, images, video or whatever.
> >
> > Video specific sites like Youtube and Blip are designed specifically
> > for the activity of logging video, or, vlogging.
> >
> > Drew
>




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[videoblogging] Re: vlog

[khyrosfinalcut]

Wasn't it the case that  "blog" once implied personal but eventually 
became a generic enough term such that personal or professional is not
inherent?

There a problem with assuming the same thing will eventually happen with
"Vlog"? I mean, I think that reacting with wild negativity to being
associated with the term only hampers the process of the term/the medium
getting to the point of being taken seriously.

That said, I hope I don't have to get overweight to become a respected
critic.

-David Kowarsky
http://network2.tv 
http://focus.blip.tv 




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Savarino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I agree with Andrew...
>
> Vlog is simply short for video blog.
> Blog is short for Web log.
>
>
> So which of these words are we debating?...
>
> Video: Most people recognize moving pictures, regardless of its
contents.
>
> Web: This is an obvious given.
>
> Log: This is just a list, usually tracked by time.
>
> So where could we possibly be confused?
> Maybe it is the combined word "blog"?
>
> Do people associate the word blog with only personal online journals?
> If so, I do not share that limited view of blogging. Both blog and
> vlog plainly define a very general use of the Web.
>
> Maybe we should be creating a standard list of video genres? After
> that, lets build a rating scale. All we then need is two overweight
> critics. Vloggywood here we come!
>
> -Matt
> http://vlogmap.org
>
> (And yes, I have thought about moving to a better domain.)
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> andrew@ wrote:
> >
> > When someone engages in the regular activity of posting online
video,
> > be it aimless, their own show or their own favorite links, in each
> > case, its a an ongoing log of videos.
> >
> > YouTube (which uses the word 'vlog' in their interface), Blip and
> > many other blog software packs are content management systems for
> > logging data, be it text, images, video or whatever.
> >
> > Video specific sites like Youtube and Blip are designed specifically
> > for the activity of logging video, or, vlogging.
> >
> > Drew
>




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[videoblogging] Re: Al online viewing booms, the amateurs give way to big media

[khyrosfinalcut]

I feel like some of the trends that have made new media appealing
thusfar, particularly the sort of "monitor as mirror" effect I talked
about in my response to Fred Graver  
where people can see themselves in the show might be hard for "legacy"
media to embrace.

OTOH, when you're making a play for the masses, how much does "street
cred" or lack thereof in a very fringey industry matter?

If we draw another parallel to film, one wonders...are we going to have
fewer and fewer truly independent productions and see more "Warner
Independent" style Internet TV programs?

I realize that the studio system is good at funneling resources to and
promoting talented people, but I think there's a real case for the
amateurs here due to:

A) sheer numbers that have not been duplicated before in any of the
previous revolutions they describe
B) the continuing death of distance that continues to grow niche
markets.

Thanks for posting this, I have been wondering in my head for a little
while, "What happens when what we're calling today 'New Media' isn't
really new anymore?" At the moment, places like  Network2
  aren't carrying much that doesn't come from
people outside a studio, but we will see how the pendulum swings.



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