[videoblogging] Re: Fair Or Not (was The Last Hours - Death of a Videoblogger Kevin Krutz)
This situation is a classic example of what happens when a member of a community (including a relative outsider) makes a decision that goes against the cultural norms that community. These norms are usually left unspoken, but active members of the community have an implicit understanding about what's kosher behavior and what's not. Coincidentally, over the weekend I blogged a great talk by Professor Eric von Hippel from MIT's Sloan School. He researches the norms of different cultures and communities, specifically regarding to how they react to intellectual property. The bulk of his speech focused on an amazing study he and a colleague did of A-list French chefs, and how they react when their recipes get passed around. They have an unspoken set of rules that allow people to use each other's recipes as long as they're given credit for it, and they don't disseminate it to other chefs without permission. And when chefs flagrantly copy someone else's recipe without due credit, the community response is both swift and harsh. http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/how_do_french_chefs.html I know this is kinda apples and oranges compared to this situation, but I thought it has some similar vibes andy --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to nominate fair as the central theme of our times, these times, whether you choose to call them 2.0 or whatever. Seems we are more sensitive to fairness, I can't put my finger on exactly why though. Is it because the ability to maintain community has become easier due to the networky glue we're all high on, or is it something else? Music pricing, political shenanigans, nondisclosure of business relationships, fair use, first amendment rights suppression, breaching NC licenses, experimenting on unwitting audiences, I'm sure there's more but you get the gist. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair Or Not (was The Last Hours - Death of a Videoblogger Kevin Krutz)
ironic. i just wrote a private message to some people that has this idea very much in mind!!On 4/25/06, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This situation is a classic example of what happens when a member of a community (including a relative outsider) makes a decision that goesagainst the cultural norms that community. These norms are usuallyleft unspoken, but active members of the community have an implicitunderstanding about what's kosher behavior and what's not. Coincidentally, over the weekend I blogged a great talk by ProfessorEric von Hippel from MIT's Sloan School. He researches the norms ofdifferent cultures and communities, specifically regarding to how they react to intellectual property. The bulk of his speech focused on anamazing study he and a colleague did of A-list French chefs, and howthey react when their recipes get passed around. They have an unspoken set of rules that allow people to use each other's recipes as long asthey're given credit for it, and they don't disseminate it to otherchefs without permission. And when chefs flagrantly copy someoneelse's recipe without due credit, the community response is both swift and harsh.http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/how_do_french_chefs.htmlI know this is kinda apples and oranges compared to this situation, but I thought it has some similar vibesandy--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to nominate fair as the central theme of our times, these times, whether you choose to call them 2.0 or whatever. Seems we are more sensitive to fairness, I can't put my finger on exactly why though. Is it because the ability to maintain community has become easier due to the networky glue we're all high on, or is it something else? Music pricing, political shenanigans, nondisclosure of business relationships, fair use, first amendment rights suppression, breaching NC licenses, experimenting on unwitting audiences, I'm sure there's more but you get the gist.Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Sullhttp://vlogdir.com http://SpreadTheMedia.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair Or Not (was The Last Hours - Death of a Videoblogger Kevin Krutz)
once again i think this is part of the group mirroring mechanism that was set up by ryan ozawa Andy Carvin wrote: This situation is a classic example of what happens when a member of a community (including a relative outsider) makes a decision that goes against the cultural norms that community. These norms are usually left unspoken, but active members of the community have an implicit understanding about what's kosher behavior and what's not. Coincidentally, over the weekend I blogged a great talk by Professor Eric von Hippel from MIT's Sloan School. He researches the norms of different cultures and communities, specifically regarding to how they react to intellectual property. The bulk of his speech focused on an amazing study he and a colleague did of A-list French chefs, and how they react when their recipes get passed around. They have an unspoken set of rules that allow people to use each other's recipes as long as they're given credit for it, and they don't disseminate it to other chefs without permission. And when chefs flagrantly copy someone else's recipe without due credit, the community response is both swift and harsh. http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/04/how_do_french_chefs.html I know this is kinda apples and oranges compared to this situation, but I thought it has some similar vibes andy --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to nominate "fair" as the central theme of our times, these times, whether you choose to call them 2.0 or whatever. Seems we are more sensitive to fairness, I can't put my finger on exactly why though. Is it because the ability to maintain community has become easier due to the networky glue we're all high on, or is it something else? Music pricing, political shenanigans, nondisclosure of business relationships, fair use, first amendment rights suppression, breaching NC licenses, experimenting on unwitting audiences, I'm sure there's more but you get the gist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
