Re: [videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
an internet friend named julie posted the original uncompressed video from the Xacti HD on her website in her review...the filesize isnt too bad since it is a short clip, see for yourself : http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/sanyo_vpc_hd1_digital_movie_cameraOn 3/7/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 3/7/06, realpeoplemedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay i did a test.On HD (not Super HD) but just regular 16:9 HD 1 min of video is 44 megs.Sorenson or h.264 should crunch that pretty good.Just for the record, I consistantly watch shows like diggnation, bleeding edge and TWiT Video and they are always a few hundred megs or more.please post a short video.Im dying to see what the Xacti HD looks likeJay--Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://FireAnt.tvhttp://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
Thanks for that link Josh! I compressed one of the test clips with h.264 and uploaded it here: http://michaelverdi.com/demo/hd1_test.movIt's nice but basically looks and sounds just like my Xacti C5 - just bigger. I would love to see a test clip of someone talking to the camera both with and without an external mic. I'd love to hear the difference and I'd like to see if the audio sync problem (my audio is always 5 frames ahead of the video) is fixed. -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
Thanks for that! I was all set to sell off my miniDV for an Xacti C6 but now find myself hung up on the HD (although more for the zoom than anything else). Also, I'm a little lazy and don't want to have to deal with the 5-frame sound issue described by M Verdi...I wonder if that problem is resolved in the HD. Bekah http://www.missbhavens.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an internet friend named julie posted the original uncompressed video from the Xacti HD on her website in her review...the filesize isnt too bad since it is a short clip, see for yourself : http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/sanyo_vpc_hd1_digital_movie_camera On 3/7/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/7/06, realpeoplemedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay i did a test. On HD (not Super HD) but just regular 16:9 HD 1 min of video is 44 megs. Sorenson or h.264 should crunch that pretty good. Just for the record, I consistantly watch shows like diggnation, bleeding edge and TWiT Video and they are always a few hundred megs or more. please post a short video. Im dying to see what the Xacti HD looks like Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo joshleo.com stonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.com wearethemedia.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
I've looked at this after downloading it and it is very disappointing looking to my eye. I'm playing on 1920x1200 full screen interpolation. Looks Very Good. But not as excellent as I was hoping for. Perhaps the subject matter could be better done with a human being talking head 3 feet away. Please? -- Taylor Barcroft New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, Futurecaster Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Mar 7, 2006, at 6:09 AM, Josh Leo wrote: an internet friend named julie posted the original uncompressed video from the Xacti HD on her website in her review...the filesize isnt too bad since it is a short clip, see for yourself : http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/sanyo_vpc_hd1_digital_movie_camera Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
Me likey the Xacti HD1. Just got it 4 days ago. Its very versatile. I bought a few 4GB SD cards and they work fine. Its not real great in low light, my biggest beef. I have not compressed or rendered anything yet. Just did a show at a local coffee house and will edit over the next few days. I'll link you when its up. All in all I have to recommend it tho. Its alot of bang for the buck. Regards, Tom Cellie --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Allen Weiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sanyo Xacti first generation, and the MPEG4 files compress quite nicely. I am looking at the HD1 as much for the zoon and (better) low light shooting than for its HD qualities. 100MB would make it unuploadable to many hosts and downright nasty to those who will accomodate such large file sizes--meaning I could go out for a meal and return and it would still be uploading. Allen Allen Weiner Research Vice President Gartner Industries Research Check out my blog: http://whatsontonight.blogware.com If you'd like an invite to join Yahoo! 360, send me an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: allenweiner - Original Message From: Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2006 9:53:02 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] File size with Sanyo HD1 if it's at all like the older xactis, then i imagine there are settings for capturing at different sizes and/or quality however, as a rough guideline, I have heard that you get about 20 minutes of video on the 2GB card so 1 min is maybe around 100MB? just guessing here as a comparison, i recall that eric rice once posted one minute of HD from his camera (an HC1?) and it was pretty close to that size if I recall. i think he was using h.264 for export not sure what codec they are using on the sanyo (mpeg4?) Allen_Weiner wrote: Does anyone have an idea of what the net file size of a one minute videoclip would be shot in HD mode on the new Sanyo HD1? I wonder if it exceeds the size allowed by many upload/host sites? Thanks. WOuld be helpful before I plunk down the money for the camera. Allen Yahoo! Groups Links . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
Okay i did a test. On HD (not Super HD) but just regular 16:9 HD 1 min of video is 44 megs. Sorenson or h.264 should crunch that pretty good. Just for the record, I consistantly watch shows like diggnation, bleeding edge and TWiT Video and they are always a few hundred megs or more. I bounce between Democracy Player (Im on a PC) and Fireant. I just downloaded IM (thanks Steve Garfield for the tip.) but have not adapted to it yet. Democ is my fave interface but still pretty buggy for the PC. Open source tho, so I cant be particular. Enjoy! Cellie --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'd want to compress it before uploading. For web and aggregator viewing, a local video producer compresses with H.264. That's his suggestion. It looks really really great. If you are interested in putting a true HD file up on a host for download to a device that will allow you to watch true HD, then you might want to host those files on a Bit Torrent type of site. Just a couple of ideas... You can also export as .mov using an .mp4 codec and make is more universal. On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Allen Weiner wrote: I have a Sanyo Xacti first generation, and the MPEG4 files compress quite nicely. I am looking at the HD1 as much for the zoon and (better) low light shooting than for its HD qualities. 100MB would make it unuploadable to many hosts and downright nasty to those who will accomodate such large file sizes--meaning I could go out for a meal and return and it would still be uploading.  Allen   Allen Weiner Research Vice President Gartner Industries Research Check out my blog: http://whatsontonight.blogware.com If you'd like an invite to join Yahoo! 360, send me an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: allenweiner - Original Message From: Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2006 9:53:02 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] File size with Sanyo HD1 if it's at all like the older xactis, then i imagine there are settings for capturing at different sizes and/or quality however, as a rough guideline, I have heard that you get about 20 minutes of video on the 2GB card so 1 min is maybe around 100MB? just guessing here as a comparison, i recall that eric rice once posted one minute of HD from his camera (an HC1?) and it was pretty close to that size if I recall. i think he was using h.264 for export not sure what codec they are using on the sanyo (mpeg4?) Allen_Weiner wrote: Does anyone have an idea of what the net file size of a one minute videoclip would be shot in HD mode on the new Sanyo HD1? I wonder if it exceeds the size allowed by many upload/host sites? Thanks. WOuld be helpful before I plunk down the money for the camera. Allen Yahoo! Groups Links .  -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ⪠ Visit your group videoblogging on the web.  ⪠ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ⪠ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --Steve -- http://SteveGarfield.com http://Rocketboom.com My most recent post: VLOG SOUP: Episode 12 http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2006/03/vlog_soup_episo.htm l You are worth like 50 million danishes. - Amy Carpenter Alternative reply address: stephen.garfield [AT] comcast.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
On 3/7/06, realpeoplemedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay i did a test. On HD (not Super HD) but just regular 16:9 HD 1 min of video is 44 megs. Sorenson or h.264 should crunch that pretty good. Just for the record, I consistantly watch shows like diggnation, bleeding edge and TWiT Video and they are always a few hundred megs or more. please post a short video. Im dying to see what the Xacti HD looks like Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://FireAnt.tv http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: File size with Sanyo HD1
Off the top of my head the bitrate is 9Mbit, which is roughly 15 times higher than the average videoblogs bitrate. So approximately speaking, 1 minute of HD Sanyo footage will be the same file size as 15 minutes of the average 320x240 videoblog. Your best bet is almost certainly to downsize the footage from that camera before putting it on the web. 1280x720 is quite a high resolution, there will be plenty of viewers who will want something smaller for various reasons. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Allen_Weiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an idea of what the net file size of a one minute videoclip would be shot in HD mode on the new Sanyo HD1? I wonder if it exceeds the size allowed by many upload/host sites? Thanks. WOuld be helpful before I plunk down the money for the camera. Allen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
