Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
but we always do :) On 24-Mar-09, at 10:28 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: > we cannot fall for simple pleasures.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
honestly, whats the big deal at this point, that a president uses youtube? i wouldnt get drunk on it. i know that its a case of wanting to see it happen and then when it does...criticize it for being bogus. but we have to ask ourselves what are the true strategic reasons for these types of american political marketing campaigns. this new administration must be scrutinized. we cannot fall for simple pleasures. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:39 PM, pepa garcía wrote: > he should apply the same strategy with latinamerica. but it seems he > still > consumes ´old media´, as he insists in that venezuela is a terrorist > country. > > pepa garcía > http://teleperra.com > http://pepa.tv > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Gena > > > wrote: > > > The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with the > > country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We really are > > going to do things different in a transparent kind of way" I am stunned. > In > > a good way. > > > > He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school made a > > YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came to > meet > > with the teenagers last week. > > > > I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my life, a > > POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. > > > > He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to pace > > himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even three good > months. > > > > Gena > > http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > Rupert wrote: > > > > > > That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in > > > Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if > > > they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. > > > I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click in > > > the YouTube player. > > > And the video quality was great. > > > > > > > > > On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > > > > > We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but > > > now he's > > > using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their leaders. > > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ > > > They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. > > > > > > Here's an article with more details: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp > > > > > > The president's message released with Farsi subtitles to some > > > broadcasters > > > > in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in Iran > > > > echoed > > > > sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the White > > > > House in > > > > January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > -- > > > http://ryanishungry.com > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rupert > > > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > > Creative Mobile Filmmaking > > > Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
he should apply the same strategy with latinamerica. but it seems he still consumes ´old media´, as he insists in that venezuela is a terrorist country. pepa garcía http://teleperra.com http://pepa.tv On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Gena wrote: > The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with the > country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We really are > going to do things different in a transparent kind of way" I am stunned. In > a good way. > > He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school made a > YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came to meet > with the teenagers last week. > > I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my life, a > POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. > > He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to pace > himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even three good months. > > Gena > http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com , > Rupert wrote: > > > > That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in > > Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if > > they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. > > I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click in > > the YouTube player. > > And the video quality was great. > > > > > > On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > > > We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but > > now he's > > using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their leaders. > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ > > They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. > > > > Here's an article with more details: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp > > > > The president's message — released with Farsi subtitles to some > > broadcasters > > > in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in Iran — > > > echoed > > > sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the White > > > House in > > > January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. > > > > > > Jay > > > > -- > > http://ryanishungry.com > > http://jaydedman.com > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > Creative Mobile Filmmaking > > Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
Yeah, but I didn't see it as him really talking to the people. To me it seemed more designed as a sly way of talking publicly to the Iranian leaders, which he's not officially allowed to do. Anyway, apparently Iran has quite a lot of internet - 1 in 3 people have access - 23 million or so. And although I think YouTube is blocked, apparently there's a lot of online political action and blogging in Iran - I met an Iranian filmmaker and blogger last year who told me this - so even if they can't stream the video, its transcript (also freely available in Persian) will no doubt have been widely read and discussed. On 22-Mar-09, at 8:54 PM, David King wrote: > Yeah... I'm much more on the "we'll see" side. It's certainly cool to > reach out to a nation with YouTube ... But I'm not sure many of them > actually have access to YouTube. So then, it turns into a dorky "I > really don't get the web" moment. Something Obama can check off his > list without actually doing anything. > > David > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 22, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Rupert Howe > wrote: > > > The even more astonishing thing is that it elicited a similarly > semi- > > direct response from Ayatollah Khamenei in his own speech to the > > nation. The Obama administration couldn't go back on the stated US > > policy of not talking to states who sponsor terrorism, so to get > > around it Obama used YouTube and pretended to be 'reaching out to' > the > > entire populace of Iran. Who, if American dogma is to be believed > (it > > isn't) are suffering under a totalitarian theocracy and have no > > democratic say over their government's policies. > > Magic. Back in 2005, when people on this list were talking about how > > web video was going to change the world, I was sceptical. But here > > it is, changing the world. Fingers crossed. > > > > On 22-Mar-09, at 2:49 PM, Gena wrote: > > > >> The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with > >> the country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We > >> really are going to do things different in a transparent kind of > >> way" I am stunned. In a good way. > >> > >> He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school > made a > >> YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came > >> to meet with the teenagers last week. > >> > >> I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my > >> life, a POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. > >> > >> He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to > >> pace himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even > three > >> good months. > >> > >> Gena > >> http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com > >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert wrote: > >>> > >>> That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in > >>> Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if > >>> they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. > >>> I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click > >> in > >>> the YouTube player. > >>> And the video quality was great. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > >>> > >>> We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but > >>> now he's > >>> using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their > leaders. > >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ > >>> They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. > >>> > >>> Here's an article with more details: > >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp > >>> > >>> The president's message released with Farsi subtitles to some > >>> broadcasters > in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in I > ran > echoed > sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the > White > House in > January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. > >>> > >>> > >>> Jay > >>> > >>> -- > >>> http://ryanishungry.com > >>> http://jaydedman.com > >>> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > >>> 917 371 6790 > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Rupert > >>> http://twittervlog.tv/ > >>> Creative Mobile Filmmaking > >>> Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggin
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
Yeah... I'm much more on the "we'll see" side. It's certainly cool to reach out to a nation with YouTube ... But I'm not sure many of them actually have access to YouTube. So then, it turns into a dorky "I really don't get the web" moment. Something Obama can check off his list without actually doing anything. David Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Rupert Howe wrote: > The even more astonishing thing is that it elicited a similarly semi- > direct response from Ayatollah Khamenei in his own speech to the > nation. The Obama administration couldn't go back on the stated US > policy of not talking to states who sponsor terrorism, so to get > around it Obama used YouTube and pretended to be 'reaching out to' the > entire populace of Iran. Who, if American dogma is to be believed (it > isn't) are suffering under a totalitarian theocracy and have no > democratic say over their government's policies. > Magic. Back in 2005, when people on this list were talking about how > web video was going to change the world, I was sceptical. But here > it is, changing the world. Fingers crossed. > > On 22-Mar-09, at 2:49 PM, Gena wrote: > >> The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with >> the country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We >> really are going to do things different in a transparent kind of >> way" I am stunned. In a good way. >> >> He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school made a >> YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came >> to meet with the teenagers last week. >> >> I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my >> life, a POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. >> >> He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to >> pace himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even three >> good months. >> >> Gena >> http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert wrote: >>> >>> That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in >>> Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if >>> they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. >>> I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click >> in >>> the YouTube player. >>> And the video quality was great. >>> >>> >>> On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: >>> >>> We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but >>> now he's >>> using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their leaders. >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ >>> They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. >>> >>> Here's an article with more details: >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp >>> >>> The president's message — released with Farsi subtitles to some >>> broadcasters in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in I ran — echoed sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the White House in January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. >>> >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> -- >>> http://ryanishungry.com >>> http://jaydedman.com >>> http://twitter.com/jaydedman >>> 917 371 6790 >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Rupert >>> http://twittervlog.tv/ >>> Creative Mobile Filmmaking >>> Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
The even more astonishing thing is that it elicited a similarly semi- direct response from Ayatollah Khamenei in his own speech to the nation. The Obama administration couldn't go back on the stated US policy of not talking to states who sponsor terrorism, so to get around it Obama used YouTube and pretended to be 'reaching out to' the entire populace of Iran. Who, if American dogma is to be believed (it isn't) are suffering under a totalitarian theocracy and have no democratic say over their government's policies. Magic. Back in 2005, when people on this list were talking about how web video was going to change the world, I was sceptical. But here it is, changing the world. Fingers crossed. On 22-Mar-09, at 2:49 PM, Gena wrote: > The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with > the country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We > really are going to do things different in a transparent kind of > way" I am stunned. In a good way. > > He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school made a > YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came > to meet with the teenagers last week. > > I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my > life, a POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. > > He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to > pace himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even three > good months. > > Gena > http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert wrote: > > > > That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in > > Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if > > they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. > > I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click > in > > the YouTube player. > > And the video quality was great. > > > > > > On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > > > We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but > > now he's > > using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their leaders. > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ > > They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. > > > > Here's an article with more details: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp > > > > The president's message released with Farsi subtitles to some > > broadcasters > > > in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in Iran > > > echoed > > > sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the White > > > House in > > > January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. > > > > > > Jay > > > > -- > > http://ryanishungry.com > > http://jaydedman.com > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Rupert > > http://twittervlog.tv/ > > Creative Mobile Filmmaking > > Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:videoblogging-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Leaders using video for dipolmacy
The President of the United States on YouTube to communicate with the country of Iran? From a social networking, web video and "We really are going to do things different in a transparent kind of way" I am stunned. In a good way. He rocked me when the students of an Orange County (CA)school made a YouTube video about their lives and not only did he see it he came to meet with the teenagers last week. I'm not quite an old timer but damn, never saw this coming in my life, a POTUS using YouTube for diplomacy. He is breaking so many firsts I can't keep up with him. He's got to pace himself. He's wearing my tear ducts out and it ain't even three good months. Gena http;//outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert wrote: > > That is the most insanely awesome thing. It's an election year in > Iran. This is the tone and content the people need to hear if > they're not going to re-elect Ahmadinejad. > I watched with Persian captions, you can turn them on with a click in > the YouTube player. > And the video quality was great. > > > On 20-Mar-09, at 4:50 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > We know that Obama used web video effectively in his campaign, but > now he's > using web video to reach out to an entire nation and their leaders. > http://www.whitehouse.gov/Nowruz/ > They even include an MP3 and MP4 download. Subtitles in Farsi. > > Here's an article with more details: > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/world/middleeast/21iran.html?hp > > The president's message released with Farsi subtitles to some > broadcasters > > in the Middle East and marking the Nowruz Spring holiday in Iran > > echoed > > sentiments in Mr. Obama's first televised interview from the White > > House in > > January in which he hinted at a new openness toward Iran. > > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Rupert > http://twittervlog.tv/ > Creative Mobile Filmmaking > Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
