[videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
Shows how much I know... Jason ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "mikehudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I'm following this thread with a smile on my face, because a lot of > what you're talking about is what blip is all about. We actually > already submit your video to a bunch of different places (Yahoo Video > Search, Mefeedia, the Internet Archive, your own blog, Flickr, > del.icio.us) and we'd like to add more. > > The only thing keeping us from cross-posting to, say, YouTube, is > license restrictions. We're not sure if we can get away with it from > a legal perspective. > > That said, we've been looking into cross-posting to Google Video > pretty actively and I think we may move towards that in the next > couple weeks. > > What other services would you like us to auto submit to? > > Yours, > > Mike > Co-founder, blip.tv > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "lishisman" wrote: > > > > Verdi, > > Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a > > perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good > > targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times. > > Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video > > services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not > > want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where > > the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google > > video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and > > monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon. > > > > [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > > helping to > > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > > world - > > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > > thing > > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > > your own > > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > > TV or Film > > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > > have to put > > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.] > > > > I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct > > difference between what you pointed out and the > > truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not > > giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just > > extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV > > may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a > > Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my > > content in these locations without much effort. Some services > > convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices > > on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your > > discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not > > infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours... > > > > I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure > > I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you > > so much for your thoughts... > > > > As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working > > on it... ;) > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" > > wrote: > > > > > > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like > > YouTube > > > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of > > people looking > > > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 > > main > > > reasons why I'll never be interested in that. > > > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for > > example > > > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that > > they can > > > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for > > hosting when > > > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and > > Blip.tv without > > > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative > > commons > > > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating > > the terms of > > > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or > > share alike > > > license). > > > > > > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > > helping to > > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > > world - > > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > > thing > > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > > your own > > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > > TV or Film > > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > > have to put > > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself. > > > > > > Here are my "tips" for building an audience: > > > 1. Make great content. > > > 2. Make g
[videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
I am not going to sit here and let you bums run train on my thread again... umm my idea is shockingly close to Blip ... by now though my ignorance should preceed me...I would love to share some ideas on a closer vision that I have if you guys are open to it. Here is my spam...err nice uhh link that is relevant to this post... I love the youtube idea soo much that I did a 30 second promo video for fun it is here... http://youtube.com/watch?v=LqB9nPVp8BA Thanks for the comments.. Jason YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
Yeah you can do this. Easy cheesey. I have some thoughts about Verdi's comments about YouTube and DailyMotion. I agree with everything he says about them. But I've discovered that many users of YouTube and DailyMotion get pretty defensive about their favorite services. Probably because they aren't just places to upload and host video. They're communities, much like Flickr, Myspace, and others. So people feel more emotionally connected to them in ways that transend mere utility. When you attack them (or even if you are just presieved to attack them) they take it personally because these services represent the places where they have a lot of friends. So it's good to keep this in mind when discussing them. It's a little deeper than just putting your videos somewhere where they are going to get a lot of views, and free hosting. People are building whole networks of friends in these spaces and it makes it hard for them to even think about droping them for another service. Just food for thought I guess. I don't have much more to say about it. I do like the idea of posting teaser videos on there though. But I agree letting these services become the definition of internet video is dangerous. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thank you. > thank you very much. ;-) > > verdi - freevlog it please ;-) > > On 4/3/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I like your devious mind! > > > > mwuhahahahahaha*cough*haha*hack*hahahhaha! > > > > > > *_ > > David Howell* > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > -- > > *From:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Michael Sullivan > > *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2006 11:53 AM > > *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [videoblogging] Video Submission Service Idea > > > > funny thought i had to 'use' youtube etc. > > > > redirect people to your videoblog with a sort of video press release when > > you have posted a new video. but dont post the actual video to them... > > reserve your rights and USE them and their wide audience. post a 15 second > > video of you directing people to your latest post with maybe a tiny teaser > > clip added. and add a link in the youtube post description (can you do > > that?). > > > > ha! > > > > On 4/3/06, Michael Verdi < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like YouTube > > > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of people looking > > > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 main > > > reasons why I'll never be interested in that. > > > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for > > > example all require you to license your video to them in such a way that > > > they can commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for > > > hosting when you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and > > > Blip.tv without giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use > > > anyone's creative commons licensed material and then upload it there you may > > > be violating the terms of their licence (this is the case for any > > > non-commercial and/or share alike license). > > > > > > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are helping > > > to set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film world - > > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary thing > > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute your own > > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on TV or Film > > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't have to put > > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself. > > > > > > Here are my "tips" for building an audience: > > > 1. Make great content. > > > 2. Make great content. > > > 3. Make great content. > > > 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links > > > relevant to your great content. > > > 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can > > > subscribe to your great content. > > > 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday but > > > don't dissapear for months at a time). > > > 7. Interact with your audience via the comments on your videoblog. > > > 8. Watch and comment on stuff you like (they might like your stuff too). > > > > > > That's it for now. That should get you started. > > > > > > -Verdi > > > > > > > > > On 4/3/06, lishisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Greetings... Vlogweek very cool... Our New studio did not get > > > > finished over the weekend, and I am bummed, Such is life... > > > > > > > > Warning - I am not a good writer, when it comes to me putting > > > > something on paper, alot
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
Mike, do you guys still have an open OPML?and an RSS for latest videos?I like how blip does this spreading of media. very cool! very important!It is probably the best example to show that Blip is on your side. They are not building walls... they are leveling the playing field... making your media 'very available' ;-)btw, on the channel level... your vlog and feed address if added to vlogdir.com, then vlogdir pings google search engine so it helps you get discovered more easily (that plus the regular google/vlogdir ranking stuff). so its important to use a servic elike blip that helps to spread your media and it helps to list your actual vlogs and feeds in directories that also spread them outward. sullOn 4/3/06, mikehudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys,I'm following this thread with a smile on my face, because a lot ofwhat you're talking about is what blip is all about. We actuallyalready submit your video to a bunch of different places (Yahoo Video Search, Mefeedia, the Internet Archive, your own blog, Flickr,del.icio.us) and we'd like to add more.The only thing keeping us from cross-posting to, say, YouTube, islicense restrictions. We're not sure if we can get away with it from a legal perspective.That said, we've been looking into cross-posting to Google Videopretty actively and I think we may move towards that in the nextcouple weeks.What other services would you like us to auto submit to? Yours,MikeCo-founder, blip.tv--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "lishisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Verdi,> Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a> perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good> targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times. > Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video> services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not> want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where > the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google> video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and> monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon.> > [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are> helping to> > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film> world -> > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > thing> > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute> your own> > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on> TV or Film> > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > have to put> > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.]>> I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct> difference between what you pointed out and the > truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not> giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just> extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV > may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a> Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my> content in these locations without much effort. Some services> convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices > on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your> discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not> infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours...> > I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure> I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you> so much for your thoughts...>> As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working > on it... ;)>> Jason --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" > wrote: > >> > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like> YouTube> > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of> people looking> > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 > main> > reasons why I'll never be interested in that.> > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for> example> > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that > they can> > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for> hosting when> > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and> Blip.tv without> > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative> commons> > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating> the terms of> > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or > share alike> > license).> >> > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are> helping to> > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > world -> > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary> thing> > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute> your own> > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want t
[videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
Hey guys, I'm following this thread with a smile on my face, because a lot of what you're talking about is what blip is all about. We actually already submit your video to a bunch of different places (Yahoo Video Search, Mefeedia, the Internet Archive, your own blog, Flickr, del.icio.us) and we'd like to add more. The only thing keeping us from cross-posting to, say, YouTube, is license restrictions. We're not sure if we can get away with it from a legal perspective. That said, we've been looking into cross-posting to Google Video pretty actively and I think we may move towards that in the next couple weeks. What other services would you like us to auto submit to? Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "lishisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Verdi, > Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a > perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good > targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times. > Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video > services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not > want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where > the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google > video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and > monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon. > > [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > helping to > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > world - > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > thing > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > your own > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > TV or Film > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > have to put > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.] > > I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct > difference between what you pointed out and the > truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not > giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just > extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV > may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a > Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my > content in these locations without much effort. Some services > convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices > on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your > discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not > infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours... > > I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure > I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you > so much for your thoughts... > > As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working > on it... ;) > > Jason > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" > wrote: > > > > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like > YouTube > > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of > people looking > > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 > main > > reasons why I'll never be interested in that. > > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for > example > > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that > they can > > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for > hosting when > > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and > Blip.tv without > > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative > commons > > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating > the terms of > > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or > share alike > > license). > > > > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > helping to > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > world - > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > thing > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > your own > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > TV or Film > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > have to put > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself. > > > > Here are my "tips" for building an audience: > > 1. Make great content. > > 2. Make great content. > > 3. Make great content. > > 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links > relevant > > to your great content. > > 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can > > subscribe to your great content. > > 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday > but don't > > dissapear for months a
[videoblogging] Re: Video Submission Service Idea
Verdi, Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times. Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon. [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are helping to > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film world - > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary thing > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute your own > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on TV or Film > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't have to put > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.] I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct difference between what you pointed out and the truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my content in these locations without much effort. Some services convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours... I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you so much for your thoughts... As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working on it... ;) Jason --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like YouTube > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of people looking > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 main > reasons why I'll never be interested in that. > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for example > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that they can > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for hosting when > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and Blip.tv without > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative commons > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating the terms of > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or share alike > license). > > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are helping to > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film world - > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary thing > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute your own > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on TV or Film > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't have to put > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself. > > Here are my "tips" for building an audience: > 1. Make great content. > 2. Make great content. > 3. Make great content. > 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links relevant > to your great content. > 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can > subscribe to your great content. > 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday but don't > dissapear for months at a time). > 7. Interact with your audience via the comments on your videoblog. > 8. Watch and comment on stuff you like (they might like your stuff too). > > That's it for now. That should get you started. > > -Verdi > > On 4/3/06, lishisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Greetings... Vlogweek very cool... Our New studio did not get > > finished over the weekend, and I am bummed, Such is life... > > > > Warning - I am not a good writer, when it comes to me putting > > something on paper, alot of time my thoughts get mangled, I am much > > better in person... I think way faster than I type, so I will try to > > convey and idea... discussing it here first before acting, and > > hoping that I can get some constructive, open minded, feedback from > > valued members here. > > > > I have an Idea... > > > > Trying to be a productive member and all, I would like to build or > > be part of a new website/program dedicated to video submission. I > > have *some*
