Re: [videoblogging] Today the tape died - Canon HF11 HG11

[Brook Hinton]

It's all going to depend on how the 24 mbps AVCHD stream LOOKS. Note
how much computational power is needed for good h.264 encoding when
the computer has the luxury of analyzing an existing set of data. Real
time capture with these temporal codecs is a minefield - even the best
HDV implementations still have trouble, and that's after years of it
being in the field.

But I'm hoping they've nailed it, and anxious to find out.

Not, however, looking forward to having acres of hard drives to shelve
for backup, or to having to transfer everything to two drives after
shooting to have a backup set of media for work in progress. I'm more
excited about the possiblity that this will be an improvement in image
quality over consumer HDV.

Brook



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[videoblogging] Today the tape died - Canon HF11 HG11

[Rupert]

Just saw this, posted today about the new HG11 and HF11 Canon HDD  
AVCHD cameras rivalling HV20  30 for quality.
Her thoughts:
Today the tape died, as far as I am concerned, with this fall of the  
HV20/30.


http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2008/07/22/consumer-avchd-caught-up- 
with-the-hv2030/

Consumer AVCHD caught up with the HV20/30
Posted on Tue 22 Jul 2008

As I have said many times in the past, the HV20/30 are the best  
consumer cameras in terms of picture quality. Various high-end AVCHD  
models (HF100, SR11/SR12, SD9) tried to compete this year with the HV  
series, but they were still lacking that bit of extra quality that  
you can squeeze out of the HV20/30.

Well, that’s all the past now.

Canon has just announced in Japan two new models, the HF11 and the  
HG11, which can record in 24mbps AVC, which is the highest bitrate  
that the AVCHD standard is asking for (higher bitrate is used by some  
prosumer camcorders, but that’s not part of the official standard).

With the HF11 and HG11 recording at full [EMAIL PROTECTED] MPEG4-AVC,  
the HV20/30 with its [EMAIL PROTECTED] MPEG-2 has no chance in hell to  
keep the reigns any longer.

Today the tape died, as far as I am concerned, with this fall of the  
HV20/30.

The HF11 is largely the same camera model as the HF10, but the HG11  
was completely reworked compared to the HG10. It has a brand new  
body, better lens, better usability, 120 GB drive with ability to  
also record in SD card, 12x zoom instead of 10x. I would have  
considered the HG11 if it wasn’t for the stupidity of Canon of going  
down to 37mm filter thread, and not staying with HG10’s 43mm. I have  
a gazillion accessories for the HV20 that would have work with any  
43mm camera. Step-down rings are not good in my case as large and  
heavy lenses and adapters would break the step-down ring and the  
camera’s filter thread if I was to mount them in the HG11. It sucks  
to be stuck in something as trivial as a filter thread.

-

Typical Canon stupidity in screwing up a small detail like the filter  
thread.  I love Canon, but they always do stuff like this (like  
leaving out the pulldown flags on NTSC HV20 or any number of small,  
needless but significant annoyances on the XL1) and it drives me nuts.

Rupert
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