Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Well... aha!  Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...

If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which  
stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're  
better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas.  Vegas (which a lot  
cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your  
files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary.  This  
can save HOURS.  As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of  
footage, then you need around three hours for conversion.  WTF.  All  
because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.

But that's not all.  When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,  
after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image  
quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv  
file.  Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.

Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence  
settings to the clip, not vice versa.  For people shooting on Xactis  
or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,  
in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience.  Shoot, cut, save.

I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.  Apple  
have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and  
amateur video.  And don't get me started on the new iMovie.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/


On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
report for CBS News on national TV.

http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
playing at about half resolution.

I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.

Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.

The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
really work, trust me.

That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
conversion when you come home.

As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

N

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
  Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
  it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
  good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
  - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
 
  It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
  I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
  best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
  On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
  plan to vlog
   and do some
   interviews from there.
   I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
  firewire or usb
   cable and upload
   at cafes.
   It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
  decent sound.
 
  the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
  it has good sound, its small.
 
  It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
  Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
  should be on most public computers.
 
  Jay
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Kath O'Donnell
perhaps slightly OT but try and keep the camera cool. I had one die
due to the heat - it overheated, lost all colours and then finally
even the lens motor broke. it gets really hot there and if you're
using it a lot it's easy for the camera to overheat. so get a robust
camera if you can!


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...

 If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
 stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
 better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
 cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
 files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
 can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
 footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
 because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.

 But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
 after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
 quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
 file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.

 Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
 settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
 or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
 in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut, save.

 I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
 have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
 amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/

 On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

 I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
 the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.

 Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
  Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
  it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
  good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
  - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
 
  It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
  I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
  best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
  On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
  plan to vlog
   and do some
   interviews from there.
   I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
  firewire or usb
   cable and upload
   at cafes.
   It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
  decent sound.
 
  the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
  it has good sound, its small.
 
  It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
  Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
  should be on most public computers.
 
  Jay
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread B Yen
On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

review of CG6 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwLDeYSb_8amp


 I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
 the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
 shot.

 Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

I think that's what happened to me when I imported the .mpg from my  
Sony PD150 into iMovie..quality was compromised.

I have an old copy of Sony Vegas (from '05),  I will try it.


 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
 Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And
 it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so
 good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
 - better than the traditional camcorder grip.

 It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
 I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the
 best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv

 On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
 plan to vlog
 and do some
 interviews from there.
 I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb
 cable and upload
 at cafes.
 It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
 decent sound.

 the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
 it has good sound, its small.

 It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
 Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
 should be on most public computers.

 Jay

 -- 
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread B Yen
On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

 I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
 the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
 shot.

Big plus here.

The PS type devices have the grab  go feature, that larger  
devices don't have

Cellphone cameras have the compactness, but not the quality (pinhole  
camera)


 Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
 Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And
 it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so
 good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
 - better than the traditional camcorder grip.

 It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
 I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the
 best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv

 On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
 plan to vlog
 and do some
 interviews from there.
 I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb
 cable and upload
 at cafes.
 It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
 decent sound.

 the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
 it has good sound, its small.

 It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
 Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
 should be on most public computers.

 Jay

 -- 
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790





 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




 

 Yahoo! Groups Links






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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Great!  I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does  
work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say  
it's the exception.   I wonder why.  The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike  
most of the Xactis I've come across.  Are you shooting in HD or at  
640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the  
last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as  
Neil did in his message just now.  I don't know anybody with a Xacti  
who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to  
grind slowly, at worst to crash completely.   The same for non-Xacti  
ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
Rupert

On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:

Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
 
  If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
  stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
  better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
  cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
  files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
  can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
  footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
  because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
 
  But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
  after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
  quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
  file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
 
  Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
  settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
  or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
  in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,  
save.
 
  I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
  have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
  amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
 
  Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
  the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
  stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
  story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
  report for CBS News on national TV.
 
  http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
  fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
  Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
  playing at about half resolution.
 
  I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
  the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
  picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
shot.
 
  Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
  an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
 
  The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
  native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
  technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
  really work, trust me.
 
  That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
  footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
  conversion when you come home.
 
  As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
  it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
 
  N
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.com,
  Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
   Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
   it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
   good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
   - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
  
   It produces big video files, though, compared to other little  
cameras
   I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
   best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv
  
   On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
  
I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
   plan to vlog
and do some
interviews from there.
I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
   firewire or usb
cable and upload
at cafes.
It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
   decent sound.
  
   the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
   it has good sound, its small.
 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of the HD
settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto, then
drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

Hope that helps!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
 work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
 it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
 most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
 640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
 I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
 last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
 Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
 who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
 grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
 ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
 Rupert

 On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:

 Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
 problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

 wrote:

  Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
 
  If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
  stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
  better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
  cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
  files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
  can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
  footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
  because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
 
  But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
  after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
  quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
  file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
 
  Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
  settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
  or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
  in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
 save.
 
  I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
  have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
  amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
 
  Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
  the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
  stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
  story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
  report for CBS News on national TV.
 
  http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
  fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
  Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
  playing at about half resolution.
 
  I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
  the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
  picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the
 shot.
 
  Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
  an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
 
  The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
  native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
  technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
  really work, trust me.
 
  That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
  footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
  conversion when you come home.
 
  As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
  it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
 
  N
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
 40yahoogroups.com,
  Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
   Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
   it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
   good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
   - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
  
   It produces big video 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Cool!  Thank you.
Interesting.  You might have just influenced my next choice of  
Camera
Assuming it will work in final cut *pro* 4  leopard, which is what I  
have.
thanks!
i guess we should store this kind of info in the wiki.
how's the sound on the HD1a?  Does it have the problems with motor  
noise that some of the older Xactis have?

On 17-Jun-08, at 3:24 PM, David King wrote:

Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of  
the HD
settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto,  
then
drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

Hope that helps!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
  work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
  it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
  most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
  640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
  I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
  last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
  Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
  who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
  grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
  ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
  Rupert
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:
 
  Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and  
have no
  problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...
 
  David King
  davidleeking.com - blog
  http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org
 
  wrote:
 
   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
  
   If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
   stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion  
you're
   better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
   cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
   files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
   can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
   footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
   because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
  
   But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
   after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
   quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
   file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
  
   Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
   settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
   or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones,  
Vegas is,
   in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
  save.
  
   I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.  
Apple
   have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
   amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv/
  
   On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
  
   Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
   the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
   stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
   story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot  
into a
   report for CBS News on national TV.
  
   http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
   fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
   Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
   playing at about half resolution.
  
   I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
   the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
   picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the
  shot.
  
   Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
   an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
  
   The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
   native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files  
and
   technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
   really work, trust me.
  
   That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
   footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
   conversion when you come home.
  
   As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't  
get
   it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
  
   

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Neato.

I like the sound - it's got a great little internal mic. This video is a
good example - it's picking up the birds in the background (
http://davidleeking.com/etc/2008/06/13/walking-in-phoenix/) pretty well. It
gets overpowered pretty easily, so if something's loud, it WILL distort -
there's no volume knob. The HD1A (I'm guessing the HD2 or whatever the new
models' called, too) has an external mic jack, which gives a little more
control.

No, I've not heard the motor noise when zooming (though it might very well
be there - I just haven't noticed it).

Yes - we SHOULD put this stuff int he wiki - good idea!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Cool! Thank you.
 Interesting. You might have just influenced my next choice of
 Camera
 Assuming it will work in final cut *pro* 4  leopard, which is what I
 have.
 thanks!
 i guess we should store this kind of info in the wiki.
 how's the sound on the HD1a? Does it have the problems with motor
 noise that some of the older Xactis have?


 On 17-Jun-08, at 3:24 PM, David King wrote:

 Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of
 the HD
 settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

 To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
 reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto,
 then
 drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
 drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

 It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

 Hope that helps!

 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

 wrote:

  Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
  work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
  it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
  most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
  640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
  I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
  last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
  Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
  who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
  grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
  ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
  Rupert
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:
 
  Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and
 have no
  problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...
 
  David King
  davidleeking.com - blog
  http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%
 40fatgirlinohio.org

 
  wrote:
 
   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
  
   If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
   stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion
 you're
   better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
   cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
   files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
   can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
   footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
   because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
  
   But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
   after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
   quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
   file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
  
   Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
   settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
   or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones,
 Vegas is,
   in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
  save.
  
   I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.
 Apple
   have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
   amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv/
  
   On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
  
   Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
   the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
   stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
   story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot
 into a
   report for CBS News on national TV.
  
   http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
   fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
   Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
   playing at about half resolution.
  
   I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-12 Thread Jan McLaughlin
If you could be sure your cell phone will work there, I'd get familiar with
shooting vids on a cell phone.

No internet cafe necessary.

Found in 2005 it was difficult to find an Internet cafe in Amsterdam where I
could actually upload ANYTHING. Free wi-fi was cool and relatively abundant,
but cabling to a computer, not so much. In frustration, put m'self in the
position of the cafe owners and realized that were you able to upload stuff
via cable, assh*le folks could easily upload destructive stuff and there'd
be trouble. So much for THAT option.

That said, on the 2007 trip to Germany, I couldn't get the new cell phone to
work there, so still had to go thru the computer -- wi-fi -- web. Had the
phone worked, that would have been ideal. Guess you have to get a local sim
card or something.

You'd have to have pretty good International and Data plans in place, but,
worth it.

Congratulations and good luck on your trip!

Jan

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, scoobyfox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey all,
 
  I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and plan
 to vlog and do some
  interviews from there.
  I *do not* plan to bring my macbook.  I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb cable and upload
  at cafes.
 
  It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have decent
 sound.
 
  Recommendations?
 
  (and it you know of any simple web-based editing tools, let me know!)
 
  heather
 



 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-12 Thread Randy Ksar
I've been using my Nokia n95 to do interviews and streaming live to the web 
site using a Silicon Valley start-up called Qik.  Check out my stuff at 
http://qik.com/djksar
Granted it is a GSM based phone.  Is where you are going GSM or CDMA?

-Randy


- Original Message 
From: Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:54:05 AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or 
other) to shoot in India


If you could be sure your cell phone will work there, I'd get familiar with
shooting vids on a cell phone.

No internet cafe necessary.

Found in 2005 it was difficult to find an Internet cafe in Amsterdam where I
could actually upload ANYTHING. Free wi-fi was cool and relatively abundant,
but cabling to a computer, not so much. In frustration, put m'self in the
position of the cafe owners and realized that were you able to upload stuff
via cable, assh*le folks could easily upload destructive stuff and there'd
be trouble. So much for THAT option.

That said, on the 2007 trip to Germany, I couldn't get the new cell phone to
work there, so still had to go thru the computer -- wi-fi -- web. Had the
phone worked, that would have been ideal. Guess you have to get a local sim
card or something.

You'd have to have pretty good International and Data plans in place, but,
worth it.

Congratulations and good luck on your trip!

Jan

--- In videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com, scoobyfox [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Hey all,
 
  I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and plan
 to vlog and do some
  interviews from there.
  I *do not* plan to bring my macbook.  I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb cable and upload
  at cafes.
 
  It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have decent
 sound.
 
  Recommendations?
 
  (and it you know of any simple web-based editing tools, let me know!)
 
  heather
 



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-- 
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Production Sound Mixer
air = 862-571-5334
aim = janofsound
skype = janmclaughlin

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