Re: [videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

2007-02-19 Thread Halcyon
You are a genius!

I have a stereo sony mic and tried that.  I think it's gonna work (better at
least).

I'll also try to pick up a 2 mono imputs-to-stereo plug converter, too.

THANK YOU



On 2/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

   From that video you made, it looks like you're using a mono mic. The
 specs of the camera say that it has a stereo input. If that's the
 case, the number of rings on the end of your mic is going to be
 different from the number of rings on the plug that goes into the
 camera. Basically, you want both to be the same, one way or the other.

 Try going to Radio Shack and getting a really cheap (or actually,
 maybe just asking them to use it to see if it works with your camera,
 like Jan suggested) mixer that accepts mono inputs but outputs stereo.
 Plug the adapter plug all the way in and have that connect to the
 stereo mixer and have that attach to your mic. That solves two
 problems. 1) Going from mono to stereo and 2) if it's still too loud,
 you can use the mixer to lower the volume to an acceptable level.
 This might not be practical on the go, but if you're staying in one
 place or using a tripod, this could work for you. An added benefit of
 using a mixer is that you would be able to plug in as many mics as the
 mixer allows. You could mic yoursef and someone else and have your
 input go left and their input go right, so while you're taping, you
 have two clean signals instead of having to pass a mic back and forth.
 Another application could be to have one side attached to a mic set
 up to pick up natural sound from the background and the other side
 pick up your mic. That way, you could mix the sound however you want
 when you get to editing.

 My miniDV camera has a stereo input also. The difference is that it
 also has a headphone jack. When I plug a mono mic into my camera, I
 only hear the audio on one channel. The other channel is just static,
 because it's not receiving any input. That doesn't matter, because
 coming through a mono mic, I'm only going to receive a mono signal, so
 I only need one channel to come through. I can tell on the headphones
 that I'm getting what I need, so it's a wrap.

 They DO sell stereo mics, though, so either try your camera with the
 adapter all the way in and connected to a stereo mic, or use a mixer
 to convert the mono signal into a dual-mono signal that the camera can
 pick up properly on both channels.

 --
 Bill C.
 http://ReelSolid.TV

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 Halcyon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can find a mono
  adapter and see if that works.
 
  the included 2.5mm - 3.5mm adaptor cable:
  http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg
 
  and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
  http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ
 
  -halcyon

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

2007-02-18 Thread RANDY MANN
no dont use tape use a string.tape will leave sticky stuff every wehre . put
a small peice of sting on the jack to do the same thing.  wehn you get sick
of the micky mouse stuff go and get a propeer addaptor.

randy

On 2/17/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   If that's actually the solution, which I can't believe that it is...
 You have to A) wrap an amount of tape around the end of the connector
 so that you can push the plug all the way in and the tape will
 restrict the plug from going so far that it becomes a problem, and B)
 use headphones to check whether you have sound or not and whether it's
 sratchy.

 I'm assuming that that camera has a headphone jack.

 --
 Bill C.
 http://ReelSolid.TV

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Halcyon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  okay, so I just went out and tried to record a segment using my new
 pull
  out the cord a little technique.
 
  And I guess I pulled it out a little too much, making the mic not
 connected
  at all (so only the camera mic recorded).
  An external mic is totally useless if I am never sue if it is
 connected or
  not. I'm going to have to send it to Sanyo or return it. Which sucks,
  because I was enjoying it.
 
  meh
 
  -h
 
  On 2/17/07, Halcyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   ohmygoodnesss
  
   I found something on dvinfo.net. (below)
  
   The hot scratchy sound goes away if I pull the plug out 1/16 of an
 inch.
   WTF!? What a crappy solution.
  
   Now if I'm on location I have to dangle the mic connection and
 hope that
   it's working!? ugh.
  
   Anyway, thanks for all the help and suggestions!!
  
  
   from dvinfo.net:
   I've discovered what the problem is with the external mike input
 on my
   HD1.
  
   Both the adaptor lead supplied with the camera, and the plastic
 2.5/3.5
   adaptor I've tried can be pushed too far into the jack socket! If
 they are
   plugged fully in, then you get lots of electrical noise: if you
 pull the
   jack out about 1/16th inch, where there's a natural, but small detent
   position, then all the mikes work fine.
   So it's simply a mechanical design problem with the jack socket
 used on
   HD1, certainly on the camera I have and from what others have
 said, on at
   least some others as well.
  
  
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: sound/mic help? (SOLUTION!)

2007-02-18 Thread Halcyon
interesting. The included adaptor has 2 bandsmaybe I can find a mono
adapter and see if that works.

the included 2.5mm - 3.5mm adaptor cable:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/394257604_63f4841808.jpg

and short video of me talking with the plug pulled out a little:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v252405ZxWjZ6RJ

-halcyon





On 2/18/07, bordercollieaustralianshepherd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hal

 Take a look at the plug. Is there one or two Bands below the tip?
 Post the link and any details/links to your mics, cables, and the plug
 you are using.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Photo-audiojacks.jpg

 What might be happening is that your camera is stereo but the mini
 plug is mono. The sleeve is shorting the two channels until you pull
 it out just past that first section of the sleeve.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jack_plug.png

 Simple solution hopefully is using correct stereo plug. If that
 doesn't do it, I'd contact Xacti.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Halcyon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ohmygoodnesss
 
  I found something on dvinfo.net. (below)
 
  The hot scratchy sound goes away if I pull the plug out 1/16 of an inch.
  WTF!? What a crappy solution.

  Both the adaptor lead supplied with the camera, and the plastic 2.5/3.5
  adaptor I've tried can be pushed too far into the jack socket! If
 they are
  plugged fully in, then you get lots of electrical noise: if you pull the
  jack out about 1/16th inch, where there's a natural, but small detent
  position, then all the mikes work fine.
  So it's simply a mechanical design problem with the jack socket used
 on HD1,
  certainly on the camera I have and from what others have said, on at
 least
  some others as well.
 
 
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