Re: [videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

2006-05-15 Thread Harold Johnson



Hi Devlon,Thanks for bringing up the use of tags with Blogger.  I've been using Blogger for years, but just recently began using Techorati tags, and find myself always bothered by having to compose my tags from scratch each time I post.  But this is not necessary!  I believe we can simply use Blogger's Post Template feature:
http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=84I've added the following tag "template" to my Post Template so that it will always be displayed in my post before I type a single word; I'll simply have to change the keywords each time I post in order to make them more accurate.  Still, it's much easier than having to add tags from scratch each time I post a blog/vlog entry.
Try it, and let me know how it works out,HaroldSomething That Happened:stories my mom would possibly approve ofhttp://somethingthathappened.com
On 5/15/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I don't think I've ever posted a real message to this group, so if I
breach any etiquette it's only out of ignorance :) ...but something
has been bugging me for a while now and I think if any group people
can address it, it would be this group.

We saw during videoblogging week 2006 how hard it was to keep track of
all the videos being posted with the 'videobloggingweek2006'
tag...granted we were relying on technorati which kind of left us
hanging.

Now with the 'ism' conversations recently I find it hard to keep track
of the every one's input to that conversation.

Tags are great, but (unless I am dense and don't know how to use
blogger) blogger doesn't provide an easy interface to add tags to
posts.  Videobloggers may not be inclined to copy and paste the
required html or even know how to use tags properly.

Before I started videoblogging I am sure it was easy to keep track of
these threads since there were a few people participating...but since
the explosion, there's just too many to keep up with 'manually'

I guess in my usual round-about way I am asking this: how can we
facilitate conversation tracking?  Groups, and social networks aren't
good for this since they are confined to the hosting site.  Do we need
to promote tag usage more?  Do we need to poke and prod blog hosting
services to provide support for tags (ie, make is easier to tag).  I
think tags are the way to go, but it seems like something is missing.

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Re: [videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

2006-05-15 Thread Devlon



On 5/15/06, Harold Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=84I've added the following tag "template" to my Post Template so that it will always be displayed in my post before I type a single word; I'll simply have to change the keywords each time I post in order to make them more accurate.  Still, it's much easier than having to add tags from scratch each time I post a blog/vlog entry.
Try it, and let me know how it works out,Thanks Harold.  I use the templates as well.  I agree it is a step closer.-- ~Devlon


  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

2006-05-16 Thread David Meade



I was thinking about this lately too.  Trackback is of course meant to help with this very issue ... but I admit I dont use trackbacks nearly as much as I should ... and I think alot of people dont.Tags are another part of it, as they often provide new entry points into the conversation, and can help you pick it back up after seeming dead-ends.
There was a cool post on digg a while ago that pointed to a tag cloud for google news (http://fserb.com.br/newscloud/).  The really cool thing was it would find related tags.  Clicking on a tag would display a list of stories on that and related tags.  It seemed to work really well.
I was thinking how great it would be to have a system like that for videoblogs.  Some system that would work off a list of feeds from the various directories we have now, and that could find tags and related tags ... and offer a list of videos.  Sort of like a parent cloud for the vlogsphere.
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Re: [videoblogging] Tracking the conversations, etc.

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Sullivan



check this out too.http://fgiasson.com/blog/index.php?title=bookmarking_discussions_using_del_icio_u&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
i've been using talkdigger lately and its made me think of some weird ways to use it... like this delicious example.sullOn 5/16/06, David Meade
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I was thinking about this lately too.  Trackback is of course meant to help with this very issue ... but I admit I dont use trackbacks nearly as much as I should ... and I think alot of people dont.Tags are another part of it, as they often provide new entry points into the conversation, and can help you pick it back up after seeming dead-ends.
There was a cool post on digg a while ago that pointed to a tag cloud for google news (http://fserb.com.br/newscloud/
).  The really cool thing was it would find related tags.  Clicking on a tag would display a list of stories on that and related tags.  It seemed to work really well.
I was thinking how great it would be to have a system like that for videoblogs.  Some system that would work off a list of feeds from the various directories we have now, and that could find tags and related tags ... and offer a list of videos.  Sort of like a parent cloud for the vlogsphere.
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