Re: [videoblogging] Videodefunct

2008-02-19 Thread Adrian Miles

On 19/02/2008, at 6:12 PM, Sull wrote:

 The project certainly has been influenced by Adrian Miles work with
 vogs and his writing on softvideography http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/
 thinking/softvideo03 and the VD collective are similarily interested
 in exploring video on the Internet moving beyond being single-channel
 and linear like a version of TV and Cinema on the web.


just correcting something in Jay's original post. Seth is a colleague  
of mine in the media program at RMIT, David Wolf completed his masters  
under my supervision, and Keith Deverell, the third amigo of  
VideoDefunct, shares an open plan office with me (and vice versa) at  
RMIT, and we regularly discuss this stuff. (So only David's been   
student of mine :-) )

cheers
Adrian Miles
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bachelor communication honours coordinator
vogmae.net.au



Re: [videoblogging] Videodefunct

2008-02-18 Thread Seth Keen
Thanks Jay for the post on the videodefunct project.

The project certainly has been influenced by Adrian Miles work with  
vogs and his writing on softvideography http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/ 
thinking/softvideo03 and the VD collective are similarily interested  
in exploring video on the Internet moving beyond being single-channel  
and linear like a version of TV and Cinema on the web.

As you mention VD simply breaks down what would normally be a larger  
linear video into smaller granular clips, that are tagged and  
categorised on posting into the vlog. The user then uses this  
metadata to reassemble these clips in a customised player attached to  
the vlog as a page. In the end the vlog becomes a larger thematic  
video work made up of a bunch of smaller clips.

In Adrian’s rhizomes http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/doing/rhizome I  
think a similar type of interactivity and granularity occurs where  
Quicktime in this case is used as a container to bring in a number of  
varying content types in varying order. Rhizomes in a way are  
configured in a variety of ways to display this content like the  
customized player page in VD. Both often explore video being  
displayed simultaneously in more than one frame. (multi-channel)

As you mention we are planning a release of VD as an application/ 
platform after a bit more development and content testing. i.e We  
will have it working cross-platform in IE soon. In the meantime we  
are very open to feedback and questions.

Some more links to follow up on the project:

PROTOTYPES – (Please note QuickTime 7.3.1, Firefox browser 2.0.0.9 or  
later required for viewing.)

http://www.videodefunct.net/banter/ The Banter prototype is an  
ongoing audiovisual report on the videodefunct project that provides  
critique and background details on the system. This example begins to  
show how interviews can be sliced up and re-assembled.

http://www.videodefunct.net/pedestrian/ Pedestrian (first prototype)
  http://www.videodefunct.net/theInvertedPedestrian/ The Inverted  
Pedestrian
http://www.videodefunct.net/theDrunkenTruth/ The Drunken Truth

VD collective blogs:
Keith Deverell - http://greyspace.com.au/blog/
Seth Keen - http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/
David Wolf - http://dpwolf.net/blog/

David Wolf' s exegesis - Vidgets: The Development and Use of  
Interactive, Network Based Video Works  - http://dpwolf.net/blog/ 
2007/12/ma-exegesis-now-online/

Blogged notes:

http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/01/30/hammering-vlogs/
- on showinabox as part of the hammering vlog workshop in Amsterdam -  
differences to VD approach...

http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2008/02/06/videodefunct-notes/ -  
videodefucnt notes - tagging

http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2007/11/06/plain-vanilla/ plain vanilla  
post on pedestrian prototype
Presentation 1# post - http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/2007/06/01/ 
videodefunct-presentation-1/

On 19/02/2008, at 8:21 AM, Jay dedman wrote:

 For literally years now, Adrian Miles has spoken of interactive
 videoblogging.
 Ive always had a difficult time getting my head around it.
 Last month I met a couple of his students and colleagues from RMIT  
 who shows
 me their project (influenced by Adrian).
 http://www.videodefunct.net/

 Videodefunct is an experimental research project that focuses on  
 inventing a
  hybrid vlog. A number of work-in-progress prototypes are being  
 developed in
  the open source blog publishing system WordPress. A key objective  
 is to
  design an interactive interface that explores the presentation of  
 online
  video from a poetic perspective.
 

 So they are using wordpress to allow people to scan through short  
 raw clips
 in any order they want, allowing for stories to be approach  
 differently.
 http://www.videodefunct.net/theDrunkenTruth
 Just click around and you can see how an event that was shot from  
 different
 angles could be viewed in this way.

 They said they'd release the code open source so other can experiment.

 Jay

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sethkeen.net/blog/
http://www.networkcultures.org/videovortex/




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Re: [videoblogging] Videodefunct

2008-02-18 Thread Kath O'Donnell
this looks great! I'll explore more soon. we made a little
random/interactive video clip player using max/jitter at an
electrofringe workshop one year but it didn't look as pretty as that
( was standalone, not web based  of course didn't have the same
functionality/tagging). I love dpwolf's work.


 On Feb 19, 2008 1:49 AM, Seth Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Jay for the post on the videodefunct project.
 
  The project certainly has been influenced by Adrian Miles work with
  vogs and his writing on softvideography http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/
  thinking/softvideo03 and the VD collective are similarily interested
  in exploring video on the Internet moving beyond being single-channel
  and linear like a version of TV and Cinema on the web.
 
  As you mention VD simply breaks down what would normally be a larger
  linear video into smaller granular clips, that are tagged and
  categorised on posting into the vlog. The user then uses this
  metadata to reassemble these clips in a customised player attached to
  the vlog as a page. In the end the vlog becomes a larger thematic
  video work made up of a bunch of smaller clips.
 
  In Adrian's rhizomes http://vogmae.net.au/drupal/doing/rhizome I
  think a similar type of interactivity and granularity occurs where
  Quicktime in this case is used as a container to bring in a number of
  varying content types in varying order. Rhizomes in a way are
  configured in a variety of ways to display this content like the
  customized player page in VD. Both often explore video being
  displayed simultaneously in more than one frame. (multi-channel)
 

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