[Videolib] PAL permissions question
Hi there - This is a PAL permissions question. Are there differences in permission requirements for libraries versus campus foreign language tech centers for PAL DVD conversion to NTSC? In other words, must a library seek permission from a producer to reformat, but a campus Foreign Language Tech Center not have to seek permission? The difference being the added circulation factor of the library, both reformatting for educational use. Diane Diane Sybeldon Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question
No. Basically you're talking about international copyright, which applies to all equally. Gary Handman Hi there - This is a PAL permissions question. Are there differences in permission requirements for libraries versus campus foreign language tech centers for PAL DVD conversion to NTSC? In other words, must a library seek permission from a producer to reformat, but a campus Foreign Language Tech Center not have to seek permission? The difference being the added circulation factor of the library, both reformatting for educational use. Diane Diane Sybeldon Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question
You must always get permission for any PAL to NTSC conversion. It would make no difference if it was library or foreign language center because format conversion is the exclusive right/property of the owner under copyright law. I don't know what type of material you are thinking of converting (fiction, non fiction) but in general a rights holder would be VERY unlikely to grant permission and would almost surely want a pretty good fee unless this was some very pricey item bought directly from the rights holder. Rights holders divide contracts over various territories, the reason a particular item is not available on NTSC is that the have not sold/licensed it for the US market. It would be SO much easier to simply use the item on a mult-system player than to try to get permission to convert. No harm in asking I guess, but I just don't see the rights holder agreeing. Jessica On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Diane Elizabeth Sybeldon ac7...@wayne.edu wrote: Hi there – This is a PAL permissions question. Are there differences in permission requirements for libraries versus campus foreign language tech centers for PAL DVD conversion to NTSC? In other words, must a library seek permission from a producer to reformat, but a campus Foreign Language Tech Center not have to seek permission? The difference being the added circulation factor of the library, both reformatting for educational use. Diane *Diane Sybeldon* Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question
Actually, speaking as director of a FL Tech Center, I have for a long time told people that this is NOT something that should be done without permission (dating back to the good old VHS days, where you needed an expensive player for the foreign standard). The quality of PAL is so much better than NTSC that it seems an awful waste to do the conversion (I remember the dismay of one instructor over her washed-out copy-again, VHS). When a PAL regionless DVD is being used on campus, you can usually take advantage of this. Computers play PAL seamlessly. In the classroom, one can use either the computer or a DVD player with a built-in converter. A LED projector also ignores the PAL coding and plays it correctly. I would advise you to tag the DVD (presuming that it is regionless) with the advice that users play it on a computer. Judy Shoaf From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Diane Elizabeth Sybeldon Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:39 PM To: VideoLib Subject: [Videolib] PAL permissions question Hi there - This is a PAL permissions question. Are there differences in permission requirements for libraries versus campus foreign language tech centers for PAL DVD conversion to NTSC? In other words, must a library seek permission from a producer to reformat, but a campus Foreign Language Tech Center not have to seek permission? The difference being the added circulation factor of the library, both reformatting for educational use. Diane Diane Sybeldon Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edumailto:ac7...@wayne.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question
Thanks very much for the info. Very helpful. Diane Sybeldon Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Shoaf,Judith P Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:32 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question I wrote: (I remember the dismay of one instructor over her washed-out copy-again, VHS). Just to clarify, at that time (mid-90s)the media library had a policy of converting a tape in its collection but (in principle) destroying the original so that a purchased tape was replaced by the converted tape. I briefly took over the Media Library around 1999 and found that there was a big pile of PAL or SECAM originals that had been converted but not tossed. I pulled the NTSC copies and replaced them with the originals, adding information about how to get a multi-standard player from classroom support. As I said, multi-standard DVD players are very common now and include ALL computer DVD drives (at least I think so). Judy Shoaf VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question
Yes, computer DVD drives and displays can handle both PAL and NTSC. But be extremely wary of a disc if you don't know for sure that it's region 0 or 1. Instructors might pop in a region 2 disc in a classroom computer or at home and press the button to change the drive's region setting. You only have a limited number of changes on any computer DVD drive before it is PERMANENTLY locked into that region. I know of at least one faculty member here whose Mac laptop is now permanently locked to Region 2. Generally speaking, stand-alone region free DVD players are generally a better option unless you want to bother with installing some kind of software to make your computer's drive region-free. They're inexpensive, too. Nowadays these DVD player video conversion chips work far better than any PAL-NTSC conversion you could get in the past. But if you can arrange to display the video in its original PAL standard, that will generally produce the best results. Regardless, the days of producing conversion copies for instructors are thankfully long gone, or at least they should be. :-) --James -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film and Media Studies Librarian Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library Emory University 540 Asbury Circle Atlanta, GA 30322-2870 Phone: (404) 727-8107 FAX: (404) 727-2257 Email: jste...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:08 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 96 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: PAL permissions question (Diane Elizabeth Sybeldon) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:06:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Diane Elizabeth Sybeldon ac7...@wayne.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 014201cb779c$5780bf50$06823d...@edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks very much for the info. Very helpful. Diane Sybeldon Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian Wayne State University Library System Detroit, Michigan 48202 Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library Phone: 313-577-4480 Fax: 313-577-5265 email: ac7...@wayne.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Shoaf,Judith P Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:32 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] PAL permissions question I wrote: (I remember the dismay of one instructor over her washed-out copy-again, VHS). Just to clarify, at that time (mid-90s)the media library had a policy of converting a tape in its collection but (in principle) destroying the original so that a purchased tape was replaced by the converted tape. I briefly took over the Media Library around 1999 and found that there was a big pile of PAL or SECAM originals that had been converted but not tossed. I pulled the NTSC copies and replaced them with the originals, adding information about how to get a multi-standard player from classroom support. As I said, multi-standard DVD players are very common now and include ALL computer DVD drives (at least I think so). Judy Shoaf -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 96 This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
