[Videolib] Feedback on vendor service to Amherst College Library
- Original Message - From: Susan Sheridan To: Music Hunter Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Feedback on vendor service to Amherst College Library I have been working as an acquisitions librarian technical services manager for over thiry years. Let me pay Music Hunter the highest compliment any vendor can get from Amherst College: working with Music Hunter is like having an additional staff member working in our department - responsive, thorough, pays attention to detail, corresponds promptly to emails, consults over dubious citations, always puts the customer first, even if a mistake is the Library's fault. Please share this comment with your staff and I am willing to be a reference for any potential new customers. Susan *** Susan M. Sheridan Head of Technical Services PO Box 5000 Amherst MA 01002-5000 smsheri...@amherst.edu 413-542-2850 (v) 413-542-2851 (f) Your search for sound video ends here! Jay Sonin, General Manager Music Hunter Distributing Company 25-58 34th Street, Suite # 2 Astoria, NY 11103-4902 musichun...@nyc.rr.com 718-777-1949 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Repost: Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets
Some of you may remember that I posted the following query to the listserv at the beginning of the year. I did get a number of great responses (thank you!), but the question got buried a bit in a list mishap where duplicate messages spawned between videolib and videonews. I thought I'd toss it out one more time to see if those of you who did not respond in January might be able to give their $.02 this time around. Thanks, Meghann Original Message Subject:Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:16 -0500 From: Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu I am curious to know what your general approach is to cataloging movies which are packaged in sets, such as the Criterion Eclipse Series; for example, The First Films of Samuel Fuller, which contains three individual films. Would you catalog this as: A) One record with three parts, e.g. The First Films of Samuel Fuller (set, parts 1-3) or B) Three individual records, e.g. The Steel Helmet, The Baron of Arizona, and I Shot Jesse James? If you have an extra second and could let me know what kind of library you represent (academic / public / etc.), I'd appreciate it. Cheers, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used
Never mind my question. I see you did not stream studio stuff. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all In light of deg's Big Statistics (not to be confused with the teenpic deg's Day Off), I've continued to stew about the whole issue of collection development/selection vis a vis streaming: the question of why/when to stream, or, more precisely, when to commit increasingly precious collection dollars to a serial payment obligation. I know I've blathered endlessly about this just in case vs just in time conundrum in the past, but I think it's worth continuing to ponder it seriously in order to avoid the knee-jerk streaming is cool and convenient, user's want it, let's leap scenario. Thus said, I did a bit of due diligence recently by taking a look at what has been requested for classroom screening over the past month (approx Jan. 22 thru Feb 22). The findings are eye-opening, to say the least. (List of titles is attached, with departmental users indicated. In many cases, a number of courses in the same department used the same film during this period). Of the 212 features/TV shows and the 194 documentaries, a TINY number of titles are currently available for licensing to stream. And of the titles available for licensing, only one or two were used in classes with more than 30 or 40 students enrolled (Race: Power of an Illusion and the MEF stuff) Now, I'm not saying that Berkeley is typical (I would NEVER say that Berkeley is typical), but these figures tell me something about cost-benefit when it comes to licensing access to streamed content for my particular institution. The current match between online availability and actual classroom needs is not all that great--at least at UCB. In the old order, taking a risk on a just in case acquisition was not all that big a deal: you bought a tape or DVD (once), publicized it, and hoped for the best. If it lay unused over the short-haul...well, chalk it up--SOMEONE might eventually find it useful. In the world of term-licensed content, the rules of the game have changed--the stakes are higher. In this fiscal environment, paying serially for under-utilized content (or for casual recreational viewing) simply isn't an option. gary handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used
Do you use a Swank license for most of the studio stuff? (Non Fox) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all In light of deg's Big Statistics (not to be confused with the teenpic deg's Day Off), I've continued to stew about the whole issue of collection development/selection vis a vis streaming: the question of why/when to stream, or, more precisely, when to commit increasingly precious collection dollars to a serial payment obligation. I know I've blathered endlessly about this just in case vs just in time conundrum in the past, but I think it's worth continuing to ponder it seriously in order to avoid the knee-jerk streaming is cool and convenient, user's want it, let's leap scenario. Thus said, I did a bit of due diligence recently by taking a look at what has been requested for classroom screening over the past month (approx Jan. 22 thru Feb 22). The findings are eye-opening, to say the least. (List of titles is attached, with departmental users indicated. In many cases, a number of courses in the same department used the same film during this period). Of the 212 features/TV shows and the 194 documentaries, a TINY number of titles are currently available for licensing to stream. And of the titles available for licensing, only one or two were used in classes with more than 30 or 40 students enrolled (Race: Power of an Illusion and the MEF stuff) Now, I'm not saying that Berkeley is typical (I would NEVER say that Berkeley is typical), but these figures tell me something about cost-benefit when it comes to licensing access to streamed content for my particular institution. The current match between online availability and actual classroom needs is not all that great--at least at UCB. In the old order, taking a risk on a just in case acquisition was not all that big a deal: you bought a tape or DVD (once), publicized it, and hoped for the best. If it lay unused over the short-haul...well, chalk it up--SOMEONE might eventually find it useful. In the world of term-licensed content, the rules of the game have changed--the stakes are higher. In this fiscal environment, paying serially for under-utilized content (or for casual recreational viewing) simply isn't an option. gary handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used
Hi We don't use Swank. Swank may be a good (albeit over-the-top expensive)source for individual, short-term course reserve viewings, but they really don't offer the type of license that's appropriate for longer-term collection building. gary Do you use a Swank license for most of the studio stuff? (Non Fox) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all In light of deg's Big Statistics (not to be confused with the teenpic deg's Day Off), I've continued to stew about the whole issue of collection development/selection vis a vis streaming: the question of why/when to stream, or, more precisely, when to commit increasingly precious collection dollars to a serial payment obligation. I know I've blathered endlessly about this just in case vs just in time conundrum in the past, but I think it's worth continuing to ponder it seriously in order to avoid the knee-jerk streaming is cool and convenient, user's want it, let's leap scenario. Thus said, I did a bit of due diligence recently by taking a look at what has been requested for classroom screening over the past month (approx Jan. 22 thru Feb 22). The findings are eye-opening, to say the least. (List of titles is attached, with departmental users indicated. In many cases, a number of courses in the same department used the same film during this period). Of the 212 features/TV shows and the 194 documentaries, a TINY number of titles are currently available for licensing to stream. And of the titles available for licensing, only one or two were used in classes with more than 30 or 40 students enrolled (Race: Power of an Illusion and the MEF stuff) Now, I'm not saying that Berkeley is typical (I would NEVER say that Berkeley is typical), but these figures tell me something about cost-benefit when it comes to licensing access to streamed content for my particular institution. The current match between online availability and actual classroom needs is not all that great--at least at UCB. In the old order, taking a risk on a just in case acquisition was not all that big a deal: you bought a tape or DVD (once), publicized it, and hoped for the best. If it lay unused over the short-haul...well, chalk it up--SOMEONE might eventually find it useful. In the world of term-licensed content, the rules of the game have changed--the stakes are higher. In this fiscal environment, paying serially for under-utilized content (or for casual recreational viewing) simply isn't an option. gary handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used.
Dear Gary, Thanks for your eye-opening post. I'd love to see your list but didn't get the attachment. The issue you raise is one that faces distributors as well. The primary reason titles are not available digitally is embedded copyrighted material which has not been cleared for digital delivery.. Depending on the amount and nature of this footage, the costs can run up to $50,000 for a standard historical documentary. That expense would be almost equaled by the highly specialized labor necessary to locate and negotiate rights digital deals. In the case of many older titles, the necessary video logs and music cue sheets are simply not available. There is no way that an older film could recoup these additional costs in the present unstable (and un-lucrative) digital market. The expedient many distributors (including some content aggregators) are using is to release a film digitally with the proviso that they may take it down (implicitly, when an infringement is noticed.) So, the purchaser of a subscription is really only getting the right to stream the content until some copyright holder gets wind of it. Of course, in 95% of the cases no one will, so the risk may not be appreciable especially spread over 5000 titles. (By the way, I believe FMG requires that the copyright holder of a film warrant that he or she has cleared the digital rights.) Newsreel itself is in denial on this issue. The upper limit for damages is $115,000 per infringement but most cases are settled simply for the cost of the clearance. In our film, Strange Fruit, however, the cost of clearing the title song and signature performance would be $35,000. I hope this sheds some more light on this troubling situation. Larry. Lawrence Daressa California Newsreel 500 Third Street, #505 San Francisco, CA 94107 phone: 415.284.7800 x302 fax: 415.284.7801 l...@newsreel.org www.newsreel.org -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:51 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 39, Issue 90 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkele y.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Repost: Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets (Meghann Matwichuk) 2. What gets streamed...what gets used (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:03:53 -0500 From: Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu Subject: [Videolib] Repost: Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 4d653df9.8040...@udel.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Some of you may remember that I posted the following query to the listserv at the beginning of the year. I did get a number of great responses (thank you!), but the question got buried a bit in a list mishap where duplicate messages spawned between videolib and videonews. I thought I'd toss it out one more time to see if those of you who did not respond in January might be able to give their $.02 this time around. Thanks, Meghann Original Message Subject:Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:16 -0500 From: Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu I am curious to know what your general approach is to cataloging movies which are packaged in sets, such as the Criterion Eclipse Series; for example, The First Films of Samuel Fuller, which contains three individual films. Would you catalog this as: A) One record with three parts, e.g. The First Films of Samuel Fuller (set, parts 1-3) or B) Three individual records, e.g. The Steel Helmet, The Baron of Arizona, and I Shot Jesse James? If you have an extra second and could let me know what kind of library you represent (academic / public / etc.), I'd appreciate it. Cheers, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:51:16 -0800 From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Subject:
Re: [Videolib] Repost: Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets
Hi Meghann, Folks in the cataloging department and myself got together to discuss this a few years back and we decided that we would break sets up in to different containers and print our own pseudo covers, it's a fairly loose policy, logical easy of circulation to the user and uniformity are the key considerations. So we keep a stock of black DVD containers, in some cases there is a need package 2,3,4 disk in one container, but there are containers that accommodate this need when needed. In the end we have a uniform collection and the user doesn't have to checkout 15 DVDs .. . . when all they wanted is one. Oh yea one more thing, we keep important information from the original cover and scissor cut or scan and paste to the new pseudo cover. It has worked out nicely. Best, Chuck McCann Research/Media Librarian Florida State University Libraries (850) 644-5924 http://guides.lib.fsu.edu/multimedia On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu wrote: Some of you may remember that I posted the following query to the listserv at the beginning of the year. I did get a number of great responses (thank you!), but the question got buried a bit in a list mishap where duplicate messages spawned between videolib and videonews. I thought I'd toss it out one more time to see if those of you who did not respond in January might be able to give their $.02 this time around. Thanks, Meghann Original Message Subject: Quick Question re: Cataloging Media Sets Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:36:16 -0500 From: Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu mtw...@udel.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu I am curious to know what your general approach is to cataloging movies which are packaged in sets, such as the Criterion Eclipse Series; for example, The First Films of Samuel Fuller, which contains three individual films. Would you catalog this as: A) One record with three parts, e.g. The First Films of Samuel Fuller (set, parts 1-3) or B) Three individual records, e.g. The Steel Helmet, The Baron of Arizona, and I Shot Jesse James? If you have an extra second and could let me know what kind of library you represent (academic / public / etc.), I'd appreciate it. Cheers, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Chuck McCann Research/Media Librarian Florida State University Libraries (850) 644-5924 http://guides.lib.fsu.edu/multimedia VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used
I am not sure whether I should butt in because I'm not a real librarian. But as a library user I think there is something to be said for having movies related to movies used in the classroom available. Not everything in higher education involves a one-on-one correspondence between required or even required + recommended materials and the actual stuff people read (or watch) which becomes part of the course or a follow-up to the course. So many times I have had the experience of being the first person to take out a particular book--or the first one since 1926. I don't know how the package pricing works but surely it is better to get a subscription to a group of related works instead of paying perhaps nearly as much to stream only the most popular ones. ...? Judy -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:51 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used Hi all In light of deg's Big Statistics (not to be confused with the teenpic deg's Day Off), I've continued to stew about the whole issue of collection development/selection vis a vis streaming: the question of why/when to stream, or, more precisely, when to commit increasingly precious collection dollars to a serial payment obligation. I know I've blathered endlessly about this just in case vs just in time conundrum in the past, but I think it's worth continuing to ponder it seriously in order to avoid the knee-jerk streaming is cool and convenient, user's want it, let's leap scenario. Thus said, I did a bit of due diligence recently by taking a look at what has been requested for classroom screening over the past month (approx Jan. 22 thru Feb 22). The findings are eye-opening, to say the least. (List of titles is attached, with departmental users indicated. In many cases, a number of courses in the same department used the same film during this period). Of the 212 features/TV shows and the 194 documentaries, a TINY number of titles are currently available for licensing to stream. And of the titles available for licensing, only one or two were used in classes with more than 30 or 40 students enrolled (Race: Power of an Illusion and the MEF stuff) Now, I'm not saying that Berkeley is typical (I would NEVER say that Berkeley is typical), but these figures tell me something about cost-benefit when it comes to licensing access to streamed content for my particular institution. The current match between online availability and actual classroom needs is not all that great--at least at UCB. In the old order, taking a risk on a just in case acquisition was not all that big a deal: you bought a tape or DVD (once), publicized it, and hoped for the best. If it lay unused over the short-haul...well, chalk it up--SOMEONE might eventually find it useful. In the world of term-licensed content, the rules of the game have changed--the stakes are higher. In this fiscal environment, paying serially for under-utilized content (or for casual recreational viewing) simply isn't an option. gary handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What gets streamed...what gets used
Does anyone have one of those annual licenses from them? If so how do you like it? Does it get used? On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:43 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi We don't use Swank. Swank may be a good (albeit over-the-top expensive)source for individual, short-term course reserve viewings, but they really don't offer the type of license that's appropriate for longer-term collection building. gary Do you use a Swank license for most of the studio stuff? (Non Fox) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all In light of deg's Big Statistics (not to be confused with the teenpic deg's Day Off), I've continued to stew about the whole issue of collection development/selection vis a vis streaming: the question of why/when to stream, or, more precisely, when to commit increasingly precious collection dollars to a serial payment obligation. I know I've blathered endlessly about this just in case vs just in time conundrum in the past, but I think it's worth continuing to ponder it seriously in order to avoid the knee-jerk streaming is cool and convenient, user's want it, let's leap scenario. Thus said, I did a bit of due diligence recently by taking a look at what has been requested for classroom screening over the past month (approx Jan. 22 thru Feb 22). The findings are eye-opening, to say the least. (List of titles is attached, with departmental users indicated. In many cases, a number of courses in the same department used the same film during this period). Of the 212 features/TV shows and the 194 documentaries, a TINY number of titles are currently available for licensing to stream. And of the titles available for licensing, only one or two were used in classes with more than 30 or 40 students enrolled (Race: Power of an Illusion and the MEF stuff) Now, I'm not saying that Berkeley is typical (I would NEVER say that Berkeley is typical), but these figures tell me something about cost-benefit when it comes to licensing access to streamed content for my particular institution. The current match between online availability and actual classroom needs is not all that great--at least at UCB. In the old order, taking a risk on a just in case acquisition was not all that big a deal: you bought a tape or DVD (once), publicized it, and hoped for the best. If it lay unused over the short-haul...well, chalk it up--SOMEONE might eventually find it useful. In the world of term-licensed content, the rules of the game have changed--the stakes are higher. In this fiscal environment, paying serially for under-utilized content (or for casual recreational viewing) simply isn't an option. gary handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended
[Videolib] who needs the rights?
Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] who needs the rights?
Well, in my very humble opinion, and mind you, I am spouting off without my usual thoughtful and ageless reflection. :) The VHS is simply a vessel. It holds the creation. It doesn't matter where you get it. If the student has negotiated some kind of copy permission and she can get a tape somewhere in order to get it to her new vessel, then that's just fine. It's not the library's problem. She is paying that $300 (or whatever price she is negotiating for) for her copy/rights/whatever. The library has paid their $300. She pay hers. The tape is just a transfer -- shared body. There is something strangely biblical in this. I'm not a biblical guy, but Jesus sends Peter to get money from the fish's mouth, then turns to the tax collector and gives him his gold drachma (or tribute penny, /denarii /or /tetradrchm /or whatever it was called). I say, render unto Caesar and don't worry so much. http://www.wga.hu/tours/brancacc/tribute.jpg Randal Baier On 2/23/2011 5:31 PM, jwoo wrote: Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] who needs the rights?
Oops, make that /denarius/, but who's counting? Oh, God, I'm so embarrassed, Commander Yates (high school Latin teacher) is rolling in his grave. On 2/23/2011 10:23 PM, Randal Baier wrote: Well, in my very humble opinion, and mind you, I am spouting off without my usual thoughtful and ageless reflection. :) The VHS is simply a vessel. It holds the creation. It doesn't matter where you get it. If the student has negotiated some kind of copy permission and she can get a tape somewhere in order to get it to her new vessel, then that's just fine. It's not the library's problem. She is paying that $300 (or whatever price she is negotiating for) for her copy/rights/whatever. The library has paid their $300. She pay hers. The tape is just a transfer -- shared body. There is something strangely biblical in this. I'm not a biblical guy, but Jesus sends Peter to get money from the fish's mouth, then turns to the tax collector and gives him his gold drachma (or tribute penny, /denarii /or /tetradrchm /or whatever it was called). I say, render unto Caesar and don't worry so much. http://www.wga.hu/tours/brancacc/tribute.jpg Randal Baier On 2/23/2011 5:31 PM, jwoo wrote: Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
