Re: [Videolib] performance rights - television episode
apparently - further confirmation: http://www.rodserling.com/FAQ.htm -Original Message- From: Montri, Tracy tracy.mon...@toledolibrary.org To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 6:21 pm Subject: [Videolib] performance rights - television episode Hello all – How might one secure the rights to screen the Twilight Zone episode “Time Enough at Last” (CBS, 1959)? My usual resources have proven unsuccessful. Thanks for any info! Tracy Montri Manager, Audiovisual Department Toledo-Lucas County Public Library 325 Michigan Toledo, Ohio 43604 419-259-5285 tracy.mon...@toledolibrary.org VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Studios with embargos
And then there's this news that kind of ties all the aforementioned together: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398480,00.asp An organized front against (primarily) Netflix (but also Redbox, etc.), may screw libraries in the process, that is, if an exemption isn't made - but, if money is money, and the movie ecosystem must fight to find a way to feed itself (so as to produce), libraries might be seen as a necessary casualty a speck of a fleck on a larger animal they hope to restrain. Interesting (socio-culturally, etc.) that studios are taking a very aggresive stance now with technology (embodied in this case by Netflix, streaming, and different access and release methods, etc.), and are attempting to shape or direct its course rather than sitting back and reacting to it. Showing them who's boss. Or attempting to at least. I wonder it they will cut it even further to the root and reactionarily devolve somewhat in the process by not releasing some films (such as the upcoming The Dark Knight Rises - which Cristopher Nolan has spoken of as designed to be an optimal Theatrical experience and a reminder of what makes the movie-going experience so unique) on DVD until later than usual. That would be, admittedly, reactionary and perhaps seen as more a punishment to fans than providers such as Netflix, but it might not be so farfetched to seem them try to truly take more control of their product, and at the points where they have a more firm hold. ben malczewski Adult Reference Librarian Ypsilanti District Library Ann Arbor, MI 48105 bmal...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Brown, Roger rbr...@oid.ucla.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [Videolib] Studios with embargos Fox and Universal also started this with Redbox and Netflix in April, and I believe it's still in force. New releases aren't available for 28 days for rent. http://gigaom.com/video/redbox-agrees-to-28-day-windows-for-fox-universal-titles/ If Warners manages to get the rental players (Netflix, Redbox, Dish/Blockbuster) to increase it to 58 days as reported (http://consumerist.com/2012/01/report-warner-bros-will-stretch-new-release-rental-window-from-28-to-56-days.html) others may fall in line. I can't imagine restricting the ability to rent films for 2 months will increase sales of DVDs as much as force customers to get other content or pirate what they want day-and-date rather than wait. We'll see. Roger Brown Manager UCLA Instructional Media Collections Services 46 Powell Library Los Angeles, CA 90095-1517 office: 310-206-1248 fax: 310-206-5392 rbr...@oid.ucla.edu From: Jaeschke, Myles mjae...@tulsalibrary.org Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:22:29 -0800 To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Studios with embargos The only one that is currently using this practice is Warner Bros. Fox attempted it a few years back and then abandoned it. Myles From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Ball, James (jmb4aw) Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:20 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Studios with embargos Hi All, I’m sure I have this somewhere but I can’t seem to dig it up. Does someone have a list of the studios that have a 30-day embargo (or longer) on video sales to rental operations and libraries? I want to say it’s Warner and Sony. Cheers, Matt __ Matt Ball Media Services Librarian University of Virginia mattb...@virginia.edu 434-924-3812 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Looking for The Glass Menagerie on dvd
Apparently, Universal holds the rights to the Paul Newman directed (1987) film but never has given it a proper DVD release. Just VHS (and i think laserdisc). ben -Original Message- From: Jean Reese jre...@mtsu.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 5:41 am Subject: [Videolib] Looking for The Glass Menagerie on dvd Good Morning, Does anyone know if the Joanne Woodward version of The Glass Menagerie s available for purchase on dvd? Our VHS tape has bitten the dust. So ar, I can only find it on Region 2. I found one web site Forgotten inema that is selling a copy for $14.95, but I've never heard of them. Thanks in advance for your help with this. Jean - ean Reese oordinator, Collection Development edia Library iddle Tennessee State University 301 E. Main St., P.O. Box 33 urfreesboro, TN 37132 hone 615-898-2725 ax 615-898-2530 Email: jre...@mtsu.edu MR website: http://www.mtsu.edu/~imr Follow us on Facebook TSU Media Library VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12
Thank you Bob - likewise for the doc. good stuff. I've been doing this annual article for LJ (and similar efforts with other channels) and it is largely a labor of love for me (as i'm sure, it is for you) - I've been breathing this stuff in well before a professional outlet became available. It is my hope that we can use platforms like this to take things from an at-large awareness level to something practical, effective, and consolidated. Public, academic, and school libraries are a huge economic engine (and thus influential - affecting the market, distribution and access methods, how contracts are arranged and purchasing takes place, etc.) - when working together. To sound oversimplified, I think collectively (and working with groups such as yours) we need to start defining the parameters rather than choosing from a prix fixe menu. I've been looking into the differing price models, distribution, and access methods of bigs and littles, and the ergonomics of media access in general, and our changing conceptualization of content in specific (I'm working on a piece tentatively titled When did my stuff become content? that deals with the shift from physical to virtual, and how it affects the design and make-up of both worlds) - so any ideas or thoughts you may have on the topic (however futuristic or ideal) would be appreciated. As an anecdotal aside, Wayne Gretzky said A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be. I don't think it's naive to think that we can have a say in directing where media access technology is going to be. best, ben -Original Message- From: Bob Norris b...@filmideas.com To: bmalcze bmal...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 9:37 am Subject: Fwd: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Hi Ben, Nice article. Deg and I had a discussion off line about it. Glad you are broaching the issues. I just wanted to put Film Ideas on your radar. We have been producing educational programming for television and K-16 markets for over 30 years. We have a streaming system and offer streaming rights. The attached document from the National Media Market may help for future reference. Best regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax: (847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web: www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. Begin forwarded message: From: videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Date: December 6, 2011 4:56:34 PM CST To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (bmal...@aol.com) 2. and how could I have forgotten . . . (Maureen Tripp) 3. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (Jessica Rosner) 4. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (bmal...@aol.com) From: bmal...@aol.com Date: December 6, 2011 3:43:28 PM CST To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Hi Deg, As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most of the article (we have that in common), and for also addressing educational aspects as part of the WHOLE media discussion - it is certainly an integral part of the picture, was considered as such, and will hopefully result in future coverage. Frankly, in this format, there was way too much to talk about. My research took many more factors into consideration and along those lines I easily could've added 5k more words of coverage, this, plus the fact that the topic is/was so much in active development due to constantly changing this just in information it often felt as though i was reporting on where a clock's second hand has been 5 minutes ago. So you go with what you can and attempt to put it and its context into perspective as best you can - even though there is always the fear that such live information might leap directly from your monitor into a bin of irrelevancy. The intent of this piece was more for, as you mentioned, entertainment purposes with a mind towards establishing base level education of how things work so that we might encourage and nurture elaboration on many different levels. This wasn't
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12
Sorry, wasn't referring to mass market. On this alternative level, even our smaller-midlevel libary annual budget for dvd/media is around 50k - and we'll pay into a 30 library plus consortium over 10k for access to ebooks. Compounded nationally, these numbers and contracts mean something. -Original Message- From: ghandman ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 11:23 am Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Public, academic, and school libraries are a huge economic engine ...you're kidding, of course? This market isn't even a fly-speck on the radar compared to general onsumer sales. And therein lies the problem for libraries in this arena. The shaping of the market and content delivery are always going to onform and play up to the latter. Content availability and modes of elivery basically seek the route of least resistance to the consumer's ocketbook. Cultural significance or the needs of education have nothing o do with nothing in this mass market. ary Handman Thank you Bob - likewise for the doc. good stuff. I've been doing this annual article for LJ (and similar efforts with other channels) and it is largely a labor of love for me (as i'm sure, it is for you) - I've been breathing this stuff in well before a professional outlet became available. It is my hope that we can use platforms like this to take things from an at-large awareness level to something practical, effective, and consolidated. Public, academic, and school libraries are a huge economic engine (and thus influential - affecting the market, distribution and access methods, how contracts are arranged and purchasing takes place, etc.) - when working together. To sound oversimplified, I think collectively (and working with groups such as yours) we need to start defining the parameters rather than choosing from a prix fixe menu. I've been looking into the differing price models, distribution, and access methods of bigs and littles, and the ergonomics of media access in general, and our changing conceptualization of content in specific (I'm working on a piece tentatively titled When did my stuff become content? that deals with the shift from physical to virtual, and how it affects the design and make-up of both worlds) - so any ideas or thoughts you may have on the topic (however futuristic or ideal) would be appreciated. As an anecdotal aside, Wayne Gretzky said A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be. I don't think it's naive to think that we can have a say in directing where media access technology is going to be. best, ben -Original Message- From: Bob Norris b...@filmideas.com To: bmalcze bmal...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 9:37 am Subject: Fwd: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Hi Ben, Nice article. Deg and I had a discussion off line about it. Glad you are broaching the issues. I just wanted to put Film Ideas on your radar. We have been producing educational programming for television and K-16 markets for over 30 years. We have a streaming system and offer streaming rights. The attached document from the National Media Market may help for future reference. Best regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax: (847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web: www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. Begin forwarded message: From: videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Date: December 6, 2011 4:56:34 PM CST To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (bmal...@aol.com) 2. and how could I have forgotten . . . (Maureen Tripp) 3. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (Jessica Rosner) 4. Re: Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online (bmal...@aol.com) From: bmal...@aol.com Date: December 6, 2011 3:43:28 PM CST To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Hi Deg, As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12
From my side i wouldn't say squat - i often purchase non-amazon titles (and even if available through amazon i rarely exercise that channel - along these lines i don't do apple or kindle or anything that smacks of monopoly). I realize that we are in the minority though. point taken. but this more to my point. impossible? i don't know. most developers i speak with wish their was another way. many will say well, good luck to this, but i don't think it's insurmountable. -Original Message- From: ghandman ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 11:55 am Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 What portion of the PL budgets cited are spent for non-amazon titles? squat. Gary Sorry, wasn't referring to mass market. On this alternative level, even our smaller-midlevel libary annual budget for dvd/media is around 50k - and we'll pay into a 30 library plus consortium over 10k for access to ebooks. Compounded nationally, these numbers and contracts mean something. -Original Message- From: ghandman ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 11:23 am Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Public, academic, and school libraries are a huge economic engine ...you're kidding, of course? This market isn't even a fly-speck on the radar compared to general onsumer sales. And therein lies the problem for libraries in this arena. The shaping of the market and content delivery are always going to onform and play up to the latter. Content availability and modes of elivery basically seek the route of least resistance to the consumer's ocketbook. Cultural significance or the needs of education have nothing o do with nothing in this mass market. ary Handman Thank you Bob - likewise for the doc. good stuff. I've been doing this annual article for LJ (and similar efforts with other channels) and it is largely a labor of love for me (as i'm sure, it is for you) - I've been breathing this stuff in well before a professional outlet became available. It is my hope that we can use platforms like this to take things from an at-large awareness level to something practical, effective, and consolidated. Public, academic, and school libraries are a huge economic engine (and thus influential - affecting the market, distribution and access methods, how contracts are arranged and purchasing takes place, etc.) - when working together. To sound oversimplified, I think collectively (and working with groups such as yours) we need to start defining the parameters rather than choosing from a prix fixe menu. I've been looking into the differing price models, distribution, and access methods of bigs and littles, and the ergonomics of media access in general, and our changing conceptualization of content in specific (I'm working on a piece tentatively titled When did my stuff become content? that deals with the shift from physical to virtual, and how it affects the design and make-up of both worlds) - so any ideas or thoughts you may have on the topic (however futuristic or ideal) would be appreciated. As an anecdotal aside, Wayne Gretzky said A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be. I don't think it's naive to think that we can have a say in directing where media access technology is going to be. best, ben -Original Message- From: Bob Norris b...@filmideas.com To: bmalcze bmal...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 9:37 am Subject: Fwd: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Hi Ben, Nice article. Deg and I had a discussion off line about it. Glad you are broaching the issues. I just wanted to put Film Ideas on your radar. We have been producing educational programming for television and K-16 markets for over 30 years. We have a streaming system and offer streaming rights. The attached document from the National Media Market may help for future reference. Best regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax: (847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web: www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. Begin forwarded message: From: videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Date: December 6, 2011 4:56:34 PM CST To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12
I agree whole-heartedly with Gary - i echo his point in my article in fact. These are the truths that are present. No doubt. I've been fielding a few different questions and replying somewhat at-large (with some asking about mass market, others academic, etc. and then some speaking to small venders in specific), and included a bit of my own ranting 2 penny's worth along the way. Didn't mean to too closely commingle the two, or confuse the later for market analysis. my bi-line was in the article. the colloquial wasn't meant as anything but that. best, Ben Malczewski Ypsilanti District Library -Original Message- From: Mike Tribby mike.tri...@quality-books.com To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 49, Issue 12 Ben; It's hard for those of us who don't know you to fully evaluate this: On this alternative level, even our smaller-midlevel libary annual budget iven the non-existent sig line on your posting as it manifest in my email ystem. I, as is plainly evident, work for a filthy vendor, so my thoughts are probably uspect when it comes to marketing and market share, but Gary's cautionary note bout the relative size of the library segment of the media market is a definite actor in most availability and pricing issues. Mike Tribby enior Cataloger uality Books Inc. he Best of America's Independent Presses mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online
Hi Deg, As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most of the article (we have that in common), and for also addressing educational aspects as part of the WHOLE media discussion - it is certainly an integral part of the picture, was considered as such, and will hopefully result in future coverage. Frankly, in this format, there was way too much to talk about. My research took many more factors into consideration and along those lines I easily could've added 5k more words of coverage, this, plus the fact that the topic is/was so much in active development due to constantly changing this just in information it often felt as though i was reporting on where a clock's second hand has been 5 minutes ago. So you go with what you can and attempt to put it and its context into perspective as best you can - even though there is always the fear that such live information might leap directly from your monitor into a bin of irrelevancy. The intent of this piece was more for, as you mentioned, entertainment purposes with a mind towards establishing base level education of how things work so that we might encourage and nurture elaboration on many different levels. This wasn't to slight. I'm pushing to get more of, well, EVERYTHING going on the topic (discussion, dialogue, camaraderie, support, interest, understanding, representation, conference presentations [physical and virtual], etc.) and i hope attention given to and stemming from works like this will help to do so. Let's keep it going. Thanks - Ben -Original Message- From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 3:47 pm Subject: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Here: http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/newsletters/newsletterbucketljxpress/892497-441/still_loading__av_spotlight.html.csp I don't disagree with much of the article, but the focus is almost entirely on ntertainment. I wrote a long, rambling comment, but so far I am the only one…. Join the fray! -deg - eg farrelly rizona State University .O. Box 871006 empe, AZ 85287 hone: 480.965.1403 mail: deg.farre...@asu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online
Hi Jessica - If tonality came off as harsh for not offering, then I apologize. The intent was to cover things objectively as a state of the union. I agree with you 100% - and many of these smaller distributers/producers/providers, etc. are favs of mine. On some accounts, their mention was something of a name drop to build awareness so that catalogs might be checked out and awareness to them brought - as much as my article last year discussed New Yorker Films who at that time was out of business (i wanted to draw some attention to them, their catalog, and that). To this extent, the ability to offer streaming isn't meant to be a negative either - perhaps even viewed as a comment in its own right - and meant to for information purposes. I too am a huge proponent of coming up with an approach that sidesteps a big dog distributor (as content provider) and would like to see libraries work with small companies in an effort to develop a model that, quite efficiently, might eliminate such middle men - and remove them of some power. Whether that be through catalog access or a la cart style (title by title) purchasing. ben -Original Message- From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Ben, I think you are a bit hard on companies that don't offer streaming. Most of the small companies you site don't likely have enough of market to set up their own streaming system. In most cases they do offer streaming rights for libraries that want to do it on their own system ( FYI I don't think Kino Lorber offer direct streaming only rights but someone can correct me on that). Rights issues can be particularly vexing for small companies specializing in educational/ independent and especially foreign films. Old contracts need to be redone in many cases and rights generally have a fixed period for which the company can stream the film ( or do anything else). Contracts expire and thus rights expire unlike the vast majority of studio titles. For obvious reasons a small company that might have anywhere from 50 to 500 titles in its collection has to have a different model than studios or netflix with have tens or hundreds of thousands. Small companies are committed to working with libraries both public and academic so their films can be seen used at a reasonable price but tech and rights issues are a problem. Regards Jessica On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, bmal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Deg, As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most of the article (we have that in common), and for also addressing educational aspects as part of the WHOLE media discussion - it is certainly an integral part of the picture, was considered as such, and will hopefully result in future coverage. Frankly, in this format, there was way too much to talk about. My research took many more factors into consideration and along those lines I easily could've added 5k more words of coverage, this, plus the fact that the topic is/was so much in active development due to constantly changing this just in information it often felt as though i was reporting on where a clock's second hand has been 5 minutes ago. So you go with what you can and attempt to put it and its context into perspective as best you can - even though there is always the fear that such live information might leap directly from your monitor into a bin of irrelevancy. The intent of this piece was more for, as you mentioned, entertainment purposes with a mind towards establishing base level education of how things work so that we might encourage and nurture elaboration on many different levels. This wasn't to slight. I'm pushing to get more of, well, EVERYTHING going on the topic (discussion, dialogue, camaraderie, support, interest, understanding, representation, conference presentations [physical and virtual], etc.) and i hope attention given to and stemming from works like this will help to do so. Let's keep it going. Thanks - Ben -Original Message- From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 3:47 pm Subject: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Here: http://www.libraryjournal.com/lj/newsletters/newsletterbucketljxpress/892497-441/still_loading__av_spotlight.html.csp I don't disagree with much of the article, but the focus is almost entirely on ntertainment. I wrote a long, rambling comment, but so far I am the only one…. Join the fray! -deg - eg farrelly rizona State University .O. Box 871006 empe, AZ 85287 hone: 480.965.1403 mail: deg.farre...@asu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and
Re: [Videolib] LJ Article
Much obliged sir. Let's keep the dialogue rolling. ben -Original Message- From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 6:11 pm Subject: [Videolib] LJ Article Ben I salute you for getting such a long piece into Library Journal, where it can each a broad audience. Media is far too often ignored in the library field. I hope the article engenders much interest and discussion! Thanx. -deg Original Message- As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most of the rticle (we have that in common), and for also ddressing educational aspects as part of the WHOLE media discussion - IDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues elating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, reservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and elated institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective orking tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between ibraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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I hear you, and i hate seeing them have to unfairly overcompensate - as if their product was something of compromising value - in order to compete or even, seemingly, have a seat at the table. I believe there has been imposed upon us an unnatural (and irrational) sense of urgency - that we must act and align (with somebody BIG) right now as if our very relevancy and effectiveness relied upon it. This is just a marketing ploy, and given that the medium itself lends a sexiness to it, it is easy to succumb to - nobody wants to miss out on the fun and excitement. But it's this impetuousness that will cost us qualitycontent/titles (and the further development/production of future titles) if we aren't careful. Not to be trite when speaking of continuing this dialogue etc., but i do believe that there is power in our numbers and that we have to organize a front. Even by starting small and setting up ergonomic access and purchasing models on a mini-scale - just to get our hands dirty is of value. I feel there is too much conjecture and not enough trial (and, yes, the inevitable error). I think we need to start getting our hands dirty - it's not as though any of us don't have ideas for what works, doesn't, or maybe could. (Strong, vague words I know.) While there is an argument that there will always be big guys and little guys and that they each have a role in the media's ecosystem, I fear that the unique rub with this current frenzied rush to find/establish a monotheistic content-provider universe is that this more tech-centric delivery method (and the tentative economic climate) might leave many smaller guys in the dust. ben -Original Message- From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 8:20 pm Subject: Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online I did not mean to give you a hard time and I appreciate your mentioning the little guys. I have just been frustrating explaining why a lot of the little guys I work with can't directly stream their works ( but hopefully they can make up for it by offering lifetime rights) and the extra run of rights issues. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:56 PM, bmal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Jessica - If tonality came off as harsh for not offering, then I apologize. The intent was to cover things objectively as a state of the union. I agree with you 100% - and many of these smaller distributers/producers/providers, etc. are favs of mine. On some accounts, their mention was something of a name drop to build awareness so that catalogs might be checked out and awareness to them brought - as much as my article last year discussed New Yorker Films who at that time was out of business (i wanted to draw some attention to them, their catalog, and that). To this extent, the ability to offer streaming isn't meant to be a negative either - perhaps even viewed as a comment in its own right - and meant to for information purposes. I too am a huge proponent of coming up with an approach that sidesteps a big dog distributor (as content provider) and would like to see libraries work with small companies in an effort to develop a model that, quite efficiently, might eliminate such middle men - and remove them of some power. Whether that be through catalog access or a la cart style (title by title) purchasing. ben -Original Message- From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [Videolib] Long article on streaming video on Library Journal online Ben, I think you are a bit hard on companies that don't offer streaming. Most of the small companies you site don't likely have enough of market to set up their own streaming system. In most cases they do offer streaming rights for libraries that want to do it on their own system ( FYI I don't think Kino Lorber offer direct streaming only rights but someone can correct me on that). Rights issues can be particularly vexing for small companies specializing in educational/ independent and especially foreign films. Old contracts need to be redone in many cases and rights generally have a fixed period for which the company can stream the film ( or do anything else). Contracts expire and thus rights expire unlike the vast majority of studio titles. For obvious reasons a small company that might have anywhere from 50 to 500 titles in its collection has to have a different model than studios or netflix with have tens or hundreds of thousands. Small companies are committed to working with libraries both public and academic so their films can be seen used at a reasonable price but tech and rights issues are a problem. Regards Jessica On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM, bmal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Deg, As the author of that piece I wanted to thank you for agreeing with most of the article (we have that in
