[Videolib] PEACE
After 2 years on the market, we are trying a new approach,, for we believe in PEACE, hoping to get the help of all those that subscribe to this list, The award winning documentary One Day After Peace is now available on VOD through SIMA, (Social Impact Media Awards) To date, over 80 film festivals have screened the film, (12 International Awards) over 100 academic libraries have purchased it, and it has had hundreds special screenings including one very special screening at United Nations headquarters in New York City . We hope to spread the message of peace, co-existence and reconciliation and more universities, colleges, schools, churches, mosques, synagogues, peace institutes, and community centers will join our efforts by screening the film to wide publics. Please hit this link to watch the film and If you will want to purchase the DVD after watching the film by the VOD to your institute, We will give you a 10% discount from the usual fee. http://ykr.be/t3x19rff4 Please Forward this email to a friend or colleague. Please look for our prices for Academic institutes and public screenings. http://docsforeducation.com/ Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php Sales Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 81, Issue 41
Jessica list members I always give academic libraries 2 prices one for institutional second for PPR. Also on our web-site both fees appear and additional fee for streaming. Our film has been purchased by 100 libraries all except 3 purchased PPR, as many of the customers are from libraries that take part in this list and are aware of the face to face regulations yet choose PPR. The few clients that wanted streaming paid PPR + streaming fee. Other films that we distribute mostly were sold only at institutional fee. I'm a small distributer . I don't make up the educational market rules, I just abide to them. Its time that ALA will make clear rulings on streaming, till then my opinion is that streaming to full university audience is a Public Performance. Streaming to small group say just to 30 persons a film about Bolivian baskets should be discussed separately between the library the distributer, Our message is Peace, Shalom, Salaam Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:59 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 81, Issue 41 Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:42:48 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR streaming To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m9zNGtiECEXJx55t-=-pe7p_9gvk8a27zftnwedvaj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Jane is correct. PPR and Streaming are different rights. Most streaming contracts allow any current student or faculty access to a particular title. I learned early on from librarians that trying to limit access to students in a particular class was insane. PPR is for a public showing of a film and frankly in 90% of cases it is sort of red herring. The vast majority of schools have no need for PPR on the vast majority of titles. There are certainly important exceptions of films that students or faculty might actually want to program ( and unlike Nahum I am not shilling titles but I represent a few that are regularly shown on campus) but mostly there is little interest in programming the documentary on basket weaving co-operative in Bolivia. PPR dates back to 16mm and Beta tape etc , it really was just thrown in because the prices are so high but again it is a separate from streaming and OF course streaming is not just for face to face situations that is the whole point of purchasing the right to stream a title. If it was used face to face they would not need streaming rights. Lastly Nahum is it possible to discuss an issue WITHOUT mentioning your film over an over? Videolib is for discussing general issues and other than someone asks for suggestions on titles for particular subject it is inappropriate to mention your film, your prices etc. Jessica Rosner On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.il wrote: Jane I want to disagree with you, institutional rights are for face to face use or private physical screening, Streaming licence allows from password protected site for our students and staff and is not shown publically maybe is correct . Yet as people not connected with the subject, so anyone of the faculity, students, including MOOC students to see the film, most cases the screening is not in a face to face situation, so the demand that the purchase will include PPR is legimate, it's a public showing to all the university The differrance between institution fee for our film (One Day After Peace) is ($250)PPR ($300) and we ask $100 for unlimited streaming rights, Other films it will be $350 The example Deg quoted is overpriced, and the vendor doesn't want to sell. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] PPR streaming
Jane I want to disagree with you, institutional rights are for face to face use or private physical screening, Streaming licence allows from password protected site for our students and staff and is not shown publically maybe is correct . Yet as people not connected with the subject, so anyone of the faculity, students, including MOOC students to see the film, most cases the screening is not in a face to face situation, so the demand that the purchase will include PPR is legimate, it's a public showing to all the university The differrance between institution fee for our film (One Day After Peace) is ($250)PPR ($300) and we ask $100 for unlimited streaming rights, Other films it will be $350 The example Deg quoted is overpriced, and the vendor doesn't want to sell. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:24:06 + From: Hutchison, Jane hutchis...@wpunj.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms? To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 13a6ca49fae7874e86664cc0f059cb071f2c4...@exchmbx1.unv.campus.wpunj.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii These terms are not acceptable and we would not agree to them. And to follow the previous posting, one doesn't need PPR for streaming. Streaming for us is from a password protected site for our students and staff and is not shown publically. We license for our institution only. Adding PPR is another way to obtain more money for the title when it is not needed. Jane B. Hutchison Associate Director Instruction Research Technology 300 Pompton Road Wayne, NJ 07470 (w)973-720-2980 (cell) 973-418-7727 -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 81, Issue 32 End of videolib Digest, Vol 81, Issue 33 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Re streaming rights
Hurray Deg I don't know who is the fool self distributer, but he is a fool. I'm a self distributer for Erez Laufer films for some other directors in which Erez was the editor. Before pricing our fees, I made a market survey so as to be attractive. Yet to get a small contribution to the costs of filming a good documentary Our fee for PPR is $250 or $300 (for One Day After Peace), (for institutional library without PPR $175 /$250) Our fee for streaming rights for University library to stream from its own streamer is $100 Films from Erez Laufer films have no time limit, films that I'm distributing for others 3 year license. I believe that streaming is the next frontier of libraries, so if any library has purchased a doco from me wants to stream I'll deduct the sum that they already paid from the streaming fee. For example paid $175 for library use (as streaming you need to have PPR) then it will be $350-175= $175, or if you have already PPR only $100 for streaming rights. I'm available of -line Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel lauf...@netvision.net.il Message: 3 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:36:38 + From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu Subject: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: dac3018aad33dc41b8dca4808569d8fb29e14...@exmbt06.asurite.ad.asu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know what I have already said (to our licensing agent to pass along to the filmmaker). But I am curious as to my professional colleagues' take on these terms to stream an independent self-distributed documentary film. I am not interested in launching a discussion on the cost of producing a documentary film, etc. I put this out only to address the licensing terms. The licensing agreement for the streaming rights are limited to in-class viewing of the film by the professor teaching the film and their students, or by faculty who are considering teaching the film in other courses. Technical Note: All uploads to the server must be performed in the 4x3 aspect ratio NOT wide-screen 16x9. Any ratio other than 4x3 will be considered alteration of the film. Rates: 2-year streaming = $259 for institutions that already have the DVD $518 for institutions that do not have the DVD, and therefore need a DVD to perform the secure upload. Permanent classroom streaming rights are available at a flat fee of 4x the institutional DVD rate, which is $1,036. For institutions that already have the DVD, that is discounted to 3x the institutional rate, which is $777.00. Use of the film for online and long-distance teaching requires an additional $100 fee for the 2-year rate; if permanent classroom streaming rights are purchased it is a one-time $100 fee. To show my hand, I have recommended that we walk away and not license the video. -deg deg farrelly ShareStream Administrator/Media Librarian Arizona State University Libraries Tempe, AZ 85287-1006 602.332.3103 -- * VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] re America Holocuast
Hi Debra I did not notice CABARET in the lists you received Lisa Minelli as Sally is an American, I saw the film lately in lecture serie on films on Holocaust/ I recommend the footage filmed by Alfred Hichcock's team the day Patton (American Army) liberated Bergen Belsen death camp, Our film The Darien Dilemma about illegal immigration to Palestine (Israel) one of our main characters is Shmarya Tzmeret, An American born Zionist Mossad Agent see http://dariendilemma.com for full info. While researching the Darien affair I hit on Colonel/Professor Ernest Witte he was the officer in charge of DPs at Eisenhower's headqauters, I wonder if any film was made about him , his archive is at Minneapolis University library. I have translated 2 pages from Ruth Klieger Aliav's (Mossad Agent) testimony about her meeting with Eisenhower Witte 1945 I can send of-line to any one that wants these pages Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:59:30 + From: Mandel, Debra d.man...@neu.edu Subject: [Videolib] Recommendations for videos on America and the Holocaust To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: d008f06b.4c55a%d.man...@neu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi- Northeastern will have a History/Jewish Studies course this fall on America and the Holocaust. Please send me your recommendations on this topic. Thanks! Debra Debra Mandel Acting Associate Dean, User Services Northeastern University Libraries 320 SL 360 Huntington Avenue. Boston, MA 02115 617.373.4902 *** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] cannons are roaring yet peace will come
Jessica You are right I'm a nudnick, yet I'm a nudnick for with a message for peace. I'm sure many of the subscribers haven't noticed my message/s Every one is aware of Jessica So as the rockets are flying, I pray for peace, I'll spam , be a Nudnick whatever so the message will roll along. Excuse me Jessica and all subscribers if I have overused the hospitality of this list See this half minute you-tube: http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/video/video/show?id=780588%3AVi deo%3A952348xgs=1xg_source=msg_share_video#.U8qMBI2KB4w Make love not war, Talk don't shoot Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 6:52 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 80, Issue 30 3. Re: Cannons are roaring yet Our Message is Peace, Shalom, Salaam (Jessica Rosner) -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 11:52:23 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Cannons are roaring yet Our Message is Peace, Shalom, Salaam To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: cacre6m83mbucwnfaqzu-6ewthckollaga8y6g5j8dhghcfw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Nahum I know you mean well and are eager to sell your films but please stop posting about them on VIDEOLIB which is not for pushing individual films. The inquiry here was extremely generic about building a media collection and a particular streaming service. If every distributor on this list posted about their films as a follow up it would flood the list and make it irrelevant. When librarians make specific inquiries on a subject matter and if you have a film that relates rather directly to that subject matter than it is an appropriate response. I am not trying to be mean but you have done this before and again if videolib becomes as crowded with multiple posts on the same films as videonews is now than no one will read it. As a side note re videonews, I wish companies would limit themselves to a very few postings per title as opposed to once a month on films that may be years old or posting every time a film gets a review anywhere. What used to be a good way to get info out on new releases or topical library titles seems to have been overrun with a lot of extraneous posts. Probably going to get a lot of flack for the above but if distributors want libraries to pay attention to their product and respect the product of other distributors ( and filmmakers) we need to cut down on posting over and over again on the same film. I am not saying you can't post more than once on something you think particularly important on videonews but please think about it carefully in terms of timing and number of times. I have a suspicion librarians are paying a lot less attention to videonews than they used to and it has a lot fewer subscribers than videolib. Jessica On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:57 AM, nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.il wrote: Never to late for peace -Original Message- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:07 PM To: 'mb...@paceacademy.org' Cc: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: I'm BK Hi Matt Have a peek at our web-site http://docsforeducation.com For K12 libraries we have a special fees for library and classroom use $100 per film See specially the Darien Dilemma' which has a web-site http://dariendilemma.com With historical background of the illegal immigration of Jewish refugees to Mandate Palestine during WWII All our films can fit for high school students, for specific subjects or general knowledge Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Today's Topics: 1. I'm bk... (Matt Ball) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:34:54 -0400 From: Matt Ball mb...@paceacademy.org Subject: [Videolib] I'm bk... To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: fc.000f76aa0129f2aa000f76aa0129f2aa.129f...@paceacademy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Friends, As some of you may know, I recently left the University of Virginia for a new gig as library director at Pace Academy in Atlanta. Although my focus is now on middle-schoolers and high-schoolers, I'm still committed to media and interested in bringing a new media emphasis to our school. As I'm getting settled in, if anyone has any resources they can direct me to, or tips for incorporating media into school libraries, please pass them along
[Videolib] Cannons are roaring yet Our Message is Peace, Shalom, Salaam
Never to late for peace -Original Message- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:07 PM To: 'mb...@paceacademy.org' Cc: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: I'm BK Hi Matt Have a peek at our web-site http://docsforeducation.com For K12 libraries we have a special fees for library and classroom use $100 per film See specially the Darien Dilemma' which has a web-site http://dariendilemma.com With historical background of the illegal immigration of Jewish refugees to Mandate Palestine during WWII All our films can fit for high school students, for specific subjects or general knowledge Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Today's Topics: 1. I'm bk... (Matt Ball) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:34:54 -0400 From: Matt Ball mb...@paceacademy.org Subject: [Videolib] I'm bk... To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: fc.000f76aa0129f2aa000f76aa0129f2aa.129f...@paceacademy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Friends, As some of you may know, I recently left the University of Virginia for a new gig as library director at Pace Academy in Atlanta. Although my focus is now on middle-schoolers and high-schoolers, I'm still committed to media and interested in bringing a new media emphasis to our school. As I'm getting settled in, if anyone has any resources they can direct me to, or tips for incorporating media into school libraries, please pass them along. To get the conversataion started, is anyone using Kanopy or some other hosting platform? Cheers, Matt ___ Matt Ball Director, Woodruff Library Pace Academy 966 W. Paces Ferry Rd. Atlanta, GA 30327 mb...@paceacademy.org VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] advice
This exchange has been published on colib@ala Excuse for cross publishing Hi Fred Thanks for your advice, that is exactly what I have being doing, sending newsletters to librarians Professors, I copy relevant e-mail addresses , I collect them myself (don't buy them), I use lists like : MESA Middle-east Studies Association, ESJS European Scholars Jewish Studies, Peace Studies Holocaust studies and more. The advice I'm looking for is how to get attention from people not on my lists? how to get librarians to interest faculty in our films? I have utilized your university library, and all our films have favorable EMRO reviews. Yet I never got an order from Buffalo University. One or more off our films can be found in the Major University libraries, yet our film One Day After Peace which is in over 90 academic libraries among them many Colleges, some of the most prestigious universities don't have this important film though they have extensive programs , Peace, Reconciliation, Political, Middle-east etc.' Studies ( I'm not mentioning names I don't want to offend anyone) Each of the libraries and many faculty members received my newsletters. I entered your university library web-site, I believe you never received an newsletter from me as the subjects you are liaison librarian are not relevant to our films (though Ecology, Evolution, Wild life etc. interest me personally). I started to self-distribute in 2006 our film The Darien Dilemma (Which I was personally involved as researcher screen-writer) after Erez had made some films that didn't get a proper distribution. One of these films is The Cry of the Owl a film on the life of Himba tribe in Namibia which is now being distributed by Alexander press, If your library doesn't hold it I recommend that you will purchase it this film should interest you. cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: Stoss, Frederick [mailto:fst...@buffalo.edu] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:19 PM To: colli...@ala.org Cc: drgjel...@stthomas.edu Subject: [collib-l] RE: University of St. Thomas Libraries (St. Paul, MN) I would suggest promoting your works through the professional societies and associations of the faculty you feel would benefit most from your efforts--newsletter submissions may be the best venue. Fred Stoss University at Buffalo From: nahum laufer [lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:20 PM To: colli...@ala.org Cc: drgjel...@stthomas.edu Subject: [collib-l] University of St. Thomas Libraries (St. Paul, MN) Dear Dan Gjelten Library directors Librarians. I searching for advise, from Dan and all others on this list, Let me introduce myself, I'm a pensioner running a one-man project Docs For Education self-distributing quality documentaries by Erez Laufer films (my son) and other directors, I can boast that I have been successful among my customers all over the globe is ST Thomas hundreds of academic libraries. The success comes from direct approach to potentional customers usually by e-mail bringing to attention one film a time, and personal attention to clients requests. I am sure many off you have received mails from me, I send them to Librarians I believe are relevant to the subject/s of our films I have a problem, that the people that contact me usually are the acquisition librarian, they are very efficient, but I never know who is the patron that wanted the film, was it the liaison Librarian? Library director? Professor?, sometimes its even a student?. The problem is that an University library has 1-2 acquisition librarians, maybe 5-7 relevant liaison librarians but tens sometimes hundreds of relevant professors no chance that I'll be able find out who to contact, So the advice I need is how to get the Librarians to Forward my e-mails, to relevant patrons including film clubs at the university. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:57 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 79, Issue 33 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib
[Videolib] I'm BAAAAK
Hi Matt Have a peek at our web-site http://docsforeducation.com For K12 libraries we have a special fees for library and classroom use $100 per film See specially the Darien Dilemma' which has a web-site http://dariendilemma.com With historical background of the illegal immigration of Jewish refugees to Mandate Palestine during WWII All our films can fit for high school students, for specific subjects or general knowledge Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Today's Topics: 1. I'm bk... (Matt Ball) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:34:54 -0400 From: Matt Ball mb...@paceacademy.org Subject: [Videolib] I'm bk... To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: fc.000f76aa0129f2aa000f76aa0129f2aa.129f...@paceacademy.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Friends, As some of you may know, I recently left the University of Virginia for a new gig as library director at Pace Academy in Atlanta. Although my focus is now on middle-schoolers and high-schoolers, I'm still committed to media and interested in bringing a new media emphasis to our school. As I'm getting settled in, if anyone has any resources they can direct me to, or tips for incorporating media into school libraries, please pass them along. To get the conversataion started, is anyone using Kanopy or some other hosting platform? Cheers, Matt ___ Matt Ball Director, Woodruff Library Pace Academy 966 W. Paces Ferry Rd. Atlanta, GA 30327 mb...@paceacademy.org VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] streamong
Hi Jody Darby Sometime ago I have already commented on Streaming As a producer/distributer I want to keep things simple=simple without any legal bla-bla. Here is example of the wording I use in the invoice, we don't use any contract or special license The Film: One Day after Peace Public Performance Rights for audience not paying an entrance fee at Nevada University -Reno library use $300 Streaming rights to stream from campus server, limited to Nevada University @ Reno faculty, staff and students. $10 0' My understanding is, that a student or faculty on holiday can use the film anywhere on the Globe, Timbakto or Barcelona. There is no time limit the streaming license The problem is with online courses , I have come to an agreement with an institute ( not an academy) that has online courses to have a license for specific course for limited number of students. I would like the colective opinion on the following problems because we surely will meet them in the future 1) . the problem of a regular University that also has online courses 2) how to deal with Community College Library that serves also as Public library 3) Public libraries that want to stream One thing I learnt not to apply to online film Festivals Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Darby Orcutt dcorc...@ncsu.edumailto:dcorc...@ncsu.edu wrote: Jodi, For streaming, I developed and use this: A license for unlimited, protected by authentication, streaming in perpetuity to all registered staff, faculty, students, and patrons at North Carolina State University. There's some brief context for this in my piece from a few years ago, Mainstreaming Media: Innovating Media Collections at the NCSU Libraries, available at: http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1217context=charlest on I'd be happy to discuss further if you or anyone would like. Best, Darby Darby Orcutt Assistant Head Collection Management Department North Carolina State University Libraries Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919/ 513-0364tel:919%2F%20513-0364 dcorc...@ncsu.edumailto:dcorc...@ncsu.edu On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jodi Hoover hoov...@umbc.edumailto:hoov...@umbc.edu wrote: Hi Nellie- My current issue is with a DVD purchase but we will eventually purchase streaming content so I'm interested in both. Jodi Jodi Hoover Digital Media Librarian Albin O. Kuhn Library UMBC 1000 Hilltop Circle Baltimore, MD 21250 Phone: 410.455.2964 Fax: 410.455.1078tel:410.455.1078 Email: hoov...@umbc.edumailto:hoov...@umbc.edu -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 48 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 50
That is the problem A registered University /college student can watch the film, the problem is with Universities that have online courses for people that just take a one time course (MOOC) and in fact not registered students learning for a degree Message: 5 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] streamong To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m_JHUfKgrRGKyCOPKBeFksjkG+R+QacHOV+ZT1BRP=x...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Nahum, I am utterly confused. If you license for students, faculty and staff anywhere via online that INCLUDES online classes anywhere in the world so what exactly are you asking? On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM, nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.ilwrote: Hi Jody Darby Sometime ago I have already commented on Streaming As a producer/distributer I want to keep things simple=simple without any legal bla-bla. Here is example of the wording I use in the invoice, we don't use any contract or special license The Film: One Day after Peace Public Performance Rights for audience not paying an entrance fee at Nevada University -Reno library use $300 Streaming rights to stream from campus server, limited to Nevada University @ Reno faculty, staff and students. $10 0' My understanding is, that a student or faculty on holiday can use the film anywhere on the Globe, Timbakto or Barcelona. There is no time limit the streaming license The problem is with online courses , I have come to an agreement with an institute ( not an academy) that has online courses to have a license for specific course for limited number of students. I would like the colective opinion on the following problems because we surely will meet them in the future 1) . the problem of a regular University that also has online courses 2) how to deal with Community College Library that serves also as Public library 3) Public libraries that want to stream One thing I learnt not to apply to online film Festivals Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Darby Orcutt dcorc...@ncsu.edumailto:dcorc...@ncsu.edu wrote: Jodi, For streaming, I developed and use this: A license for unlimited, protected by authentication, streaming in perpetuity to all registered staff, faculty, students, and patrons at North Carolina State University. There's some brief context for this in my piece from a few years ago, Mainstreaming Media: Innovating Media Collections at the NCSU Libraries, available at: http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1217context=ch arlest on I'd be happy to discuss further if you or anyone would like. Best, Darby Darby Orcutt Assistant Head Collection Management Department North Carolina State University Libraries Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919/ 513-0364tel:919%2F%20513-0364 dcorc...@ncsu.edumailto:dcorc...@ncsu.edu On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jodi Hoover hoov...@umbc.edumailto:hoov...@umbc.edu wrote: Hi Nellie- My current issue is with a DVD purchase but we will eventually purchase streaming content so I'm interested in both. Jodi Jodi Hoover Digital Media Librarian Albin O. Kuhn Library UMBC 1000 Hilltop Circle Baltimore, MD 21250 Phone: 410.455.2964 Fax: 410.455.1078tel:410.455.1078 Email: hoov...@umbc.edumailto:hoov...@umbc.edu -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 48 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 50 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] PPR
I just want to add some statistics to the PPR question. We started to distribute 1 year ago DVD One Day After Peace for a fee : $250 for libraries $300 for PPR for universities $100 addition = $400 for streaming from the university server. 90 libraries have purchased the film , only one took the library option all the others purchased PPR, 4 universities purchased also streaming rights. I don't know how many off those that paid for PPR did have a public screening, or librarians have come to conclusion the difference is small so better pay for PPR, One thing I have learn't from this list experience librarians are our partners in guarding copyrights. I'm always ready to sell library rights and upgrade to PPR and/or streaming for the difference. cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:15 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 32 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings (Karsten, Eileen) 2. Re: Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings (Dennis Doros) 3. Re: Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings (Susan Weber) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:25:52 + From: Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: e520fc09190b4c38ae110af5a3b9b...@blupr05mb609.namprd05.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 If you are sure the professor is using the Library copy, you could send him a note. In the note, you could mention that you have heard that he is showing Movie X and has invited the community. You inform him, if he is using the Library?s DVD copy, the Library does not have PPR for it. If he needs any help finding PPR for the movie, the Library would be glad to help him. After that the ball is in the professor?s court to tell you he has PPR or ignore your note. I am assuming your university does not have a policy covering this situation. Eileen Karsten Head of Technical Services Donnelley Lee Library Lake Forest College 555 N. Sheridan Road Lake Forest, IL 60045 kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu 847-735-5066 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of benr...@usfca.edu Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 2:13 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings Hi I'm interested in what, if anything, other academic librarians do if they get wind of a screening of non-PPR dvds that they acquired at the request of a professor -- screenings which are for class curricular use but to which the campus community is also invited (though it's very unlikely that many from outside the class will show up). Do you play cop? Say nothing? Send the professor a note after the fact? Something else? Thanks for your thoughts. Debbie Benrubi University of San Francisco Gleeson Library -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:13:13 -0500 From: Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question for academic librarians re DVD screenings To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Cc: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 0ec096da-5644-4e36-9b8f-86c5f2889...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 As a distributor, I would appreciate Eileen's approach Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video milefi...@gmail.com 201-767-3117 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Karsten, Eileen kars...@mx.lakeforest.edu wrote: If you are sure the professor is using the Library copy, you could send him a note. In the note, you could mention that you have heard that he is showing Movie X and has invited the community. You inform him, if he
[Videolib] srtreaming rights
We are a production Company self distributing our films.(and some others) As I understand the rules you should have PPR to stream the film for students faculty so we have set the following fees for One Day after Peace Library use (means allowing face to face screening) =$250 PPR = $300 PPR streaming =$400 (from the university library server ) We're willing to give a life long streaming license for our films, Films from other directors for 3 years I only once got a request from Online teaching institute for streaming only for specific course, nothing came out of the request but we agreed on the fee restricting the course for 500 students, if I understood your query is that what your professor wants, only to stream a film? Without a copy in the library ? And then stream it in face to face (Library use) or in a seminar for guests (PPR) so in the case of a university/college the streaming fee has to include PPR PS: GMU has purchased a copy of One Day After Peace cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:47 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Multi-year lease for streaming films (Laura Jenemann) 2. Re: Multi-year lease for streaming films (Jessica Rosner) 3. Re: Multi-year lease for streaming films (Laura Jenemann) 4. PPR for Waking Life (Sharon A. Finnerty) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:49:26 + From: Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edu Subject: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 9deca6874c46451aa72288a900e8c...@bn1pr05mb472.namprd05.prod.outlook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Film Studies/Media Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:11:13 -0500 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: cacre6m-q+uhatjcubppowr1bfqxjgoi9q2xuzpjj-1pbljz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Have you contacted the rights holder/distributor to see if they can do a license for a semester or whatever length you need? I would think most would be flexible. Or do you mean that the film is only sold with PPR rights and NOT streaming rights? These are two very distinct rights and it is very possible that a company that sells only PPR rights does not own streaming rights. Again not clear on if you can only get PPR rights and need streaming but in general streaming rights are easier to obtain for short terms since most major rights holders limit streaming to a year in the case of studios. You also have the issue of nearly constant rights changes. I know this has been my personal crusade but I still caution when buying fiction feature films with lifetime rights from anyone other than the filmmaker or production company as I know of no company willing to license these for lifetime streaming. Regards Jessica On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Laura Jenemann ljene...@gmu.edu wrote: Dear videolibbers, and especially academic librarians with distance education programs, How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? Please feel free to contact me off list with your response or links to collection development policies. Thank you so much for your responses. Regards, Laura
[Videolib] streaming and common sense
-Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:29 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: srtreaming rights (Jessica Rosner) Hi Jessica I didn't get an answer for my query Its not a question what is legal or what are the rules in USA, but one of Common sense if I understood Laura's query is that what happens if your professor wants, only to stream a film? Without a copy in the library ? And then stream it in face to face (Library use) or in a seminar for guests (PPR) so in the case of a university/college the streaming fee should include PPR In case of a university library purchasing only streaming rights, who is going to use the film? Not the university public? During the Year 2013 I sold to 80 Academic libraries including 60 in North America the film One Day After Peace all except one purchased PPR, 3 asked and received streaming rights for an extra $100, any library that has the film and will want to get streaming rights I'll ask for only $100. I would like to hear the opinion of librarians other distributers if I'm right, has anyone ever purchased only streaming rights? cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:28:53 -0500 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] srtreaming rights To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m-BSgA5bT90FERjgL9mNEbpNueJt=7cwhn9gbp+jys...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Also to clarify you do not need PPR for a library to own/ circulate a copy. Now if you do not sell your films retail it is a moot point but librarians are understandably sensitive on this issue. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com wrote: Nahum in the US you do NOT need Public Performance Rights to use a film IN A CLASS. If the film is available at retail price you can use that in a class. The face to face exemption is very specific to use in a physical classroom as part of specific class and limited to students enrolled in that class You DO need PPR rights if you want to show a film to an open audience on campus, in a library etc. PPR rights are totally separate from Streaming Rights which allow an institution to either directly stream on their own system or access the streaming of distributor. Obviously different distributors, filmmakers, rights holders own and offer different rights for different prices and term lengths. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM, nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.ilwrote: We are a production Company self distributing our films.(and some others) As I understand the rules you should have PPR to stream the film for students faculty so we have set the following fees for One Day after Peace Library use (means allowing face to face screening) =$250 PPR = $300 PPR streaming =$400 (from the university library server ) We're willing to give a life long streaming license for our films, Films from other directors for 3 years I only once got a request from Online teaching institute for streaming only for specific course, nothing came out of the request but we agreed on the fee restricting the course for 500 students, if I understood your query is that what your professor wants, only to stream a film? Without a copy in the library ? And then stream it in face to face (Library use) or in a seminar for guests (PPR) so in the case of a university/college the streaming fee has to include PPR PS: GMU has purchased a copy of One Day After Peace cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:47 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib
Re: [Videolib] . DVD packaging question (Eileen Torpey)
I believe many of you received DVDs from us in unusual packing. When I started Docs for education I sent the DVDs in envelopes padded with bubble sheath, (made in China) bought from the post office. I got complaints that the casing arrived damaged and DVDs scratched so I started to pack in ordinary envelopes padding the DVDs with used carton cut to fit the DVD, never got a complaint again. My saving is $0.7 per packet and I can boast that I'm saving a tree Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Today's Topics: 1. DVD packaging question (Eileen Torpey) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:46:28 -0700 From: Eileen Torpey eileentor...@gmail.com Subject: [Videolib] DVD packaging question To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CANFvdRYwj7912Dc4KkQTGnRpbnqsKb3KN_O=ye_h-wsqvl6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi~ Does anyone know if it would be a problem for schools and libraries to buy a DVD that is packaged in eco-packing/sleeves (the size of a CD jacket) instead of the traditional plastic DVD cases? -- Eileen Olivieri Torpey Filmmaker/Artist (505) 501-3290 Pure Newt, L.L.C. http://www.driftartproject.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 74, Issue 10 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] remote access
Hi Franseca I allowed myself to put your query on videolib@lists See just a few of the responses that appeared on this list, I didn't see any on COLLIB@ala-org I believe Barbara summarized it well, if you have just a few emeritus professors then I don't see a problem, as a distributer/producer maybe even an advantage as most emeritus go and lecture in other Universities they will help spreading our film to other campuses that will purchase it. I believe the biggest problem arising from streaming is on-line international courses, here there should be some ruling. I had a request from an institute that does not have a campus runs International on-line courses, we came to an agreement that One Day After Peace will be available by password to students of a specific course and up-to 500 students, nothing has happened till now as the course is still not ready I propose that regular streaming license will be for Faculty, Staff, Students enrolled studying at the campus , not for on-line courses students, that of course can allow a student that went on Holiday to China to stream but not 5000 or million Chinese to stream. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel lauf...@netvision.net.il 1. Re: [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resourcesfor Emeritus Faculty (Bergman, Barbara J) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:54:56 + From: Bergman, Barbara J mailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for Emeritus Faculty To: mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Cc: mailto:laner...@plu.edu laner...@plu.edu mailto:laner...@plu.edu laner...@plu.edu, mailto:colli...@ala.org colli...@ala.org mailto:colli...@ala.org colli...@ala.org Message-ID: mailto:ab1ade6cd16d7a42871b21f41c39bf0ac1794...@db5.campus.mnsu.edu ab1ade6cd16d7a42871b21f41c39bf0ac1794...@db5.campus.mnsu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Whoa, hold your horses, folks. I'm seeing reactions to questions that weren't actually asked. The original question: do emeriti faculty retain library privileges? 1. Borrowing privileges and access to electronic resources are really 2 different questions. 2. Borrowing privileges = being issued a library card with barcode to use to check out books, DVDs, etc. a. Yes, if requested. Emeriti are considered as still being faculty employees since generally the only faculty who request emeriti status are the ones continuing their research. Emeriti status is only available to professors who have retired from the university after many years of service. b. Community users (alumni, former employees, retired staff, community members) can get borrowing privileges similar to undergraduates, but that does not include off-campus access to licensed electronic resources. 3. Electronic resources = Remote access to electronic resources is controlled by having a computer login ID and password. A campus login may or may not be included with emeriti status, but as already mentioned, we consider the handful of emeriti as still being employees. Now for the other concerns that came up: * Remote access to licensed electronic resources is authenticated through login. * All current students and employees have a valid login. If you don't have a login, you don't get access. * Paid distance learners are registered students and therefore have a campus login. * When one logs in from off-campus, you are actually logging into a proxy server on campus that gives you a campus IP address for the duration of that login. It does not matter where that student or employee is - whether it be at the local coffee shop or studying abroad. * These is the normal arrangement for licensing an electronic resource. We would refuse to purchase a resource that didn't allow us to provide authenticated remote access. * I'm not sure why you are bringing territorial copyright into this discussion. That relates to your terms of sales and distribution, not US copyright law. And licenses are separate from what is allowed by US copyright law and fair use. ~Barb Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | mailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu%3cmailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu barbara.berg...@mnsu.edumailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu From: mailto:videolib-boun
Re: [Videolib] [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for Emeritus Faculty
I saw only one answer to Francesca's query, but this is a key question on the streaming rights of an university library As streaming has become a regular standard at many libraries as a producer/distributer I would like to know the limits of the library to whom to stream. Are there any ALA rulings on this issue? I'm CC this mail to video-lib list Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ http://docsforeducation.com/index.php Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 7:44 AM To: 'colli...@ala.org' Subject: RE: [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for Emeritus Faculty Hello all Francesca is asking a very important point. When we sell a DVD with PPR then its understood that it is for screening at the university, of course anybody that has right to lend can take it home for private home use, but what happens when we also gave streaming rights to the university for use of Faculty students . If your university library also has registered patrons, Emeritus? Alumni? Just neighbors in the community? Moved away a 1000 miles? Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ http://docsforeducation.com/index.php Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: Francesca Lane Rasmus [mailto:laner...@plu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:09 AM To: colli...@ala.org Subject: [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for Emeritus Faculty All, I am in the process of researching emeritus off-campus access policies to subscription library resources and seek your input. Most licenses require libraries to restrict access to currently enrolled students and employed faculty and staff. If you offer access, is this something you arrange with the vendor by modifying licenses, or do you consider emeritus to be still employed by your institution? Do you have a policy online regarding emeritus privileges? If there is interest, I can summarize the results for the list. -Francesca ___ Francesca Lane Rasmus Director for Library Services Mortvedt Library Pacific Lutheran University Tacoma, WA 98447 253.535.7141 laner...@plu.edu https://sites.google.com/a/plu.edu/images/home/MortvedtBlue1inch.jpg?attredirects=0 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 45
Amazon does not check who is the seller or if a DVD is a bootleg. After finding out that they sold unauthorized copies I refuse to do business with them Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 4 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:17:21 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] California's Lost Tribes To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m971FZ_yM2K4BEV5so0KN7couuk-y8kpZW7kkL-v=q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Actually I have been getting more and more reports from librarians about this kind of thing on Amazon and at the risk of incurring a certain amount of wrath I see similar language on many distributor web sites for films that are easily available at a retail price. Sections one and two are simply wrong. If you buy a film from the distributor or an authorized agent ( which one can presume in this case Amazon is) it is a legally acquired copy and thus can be used in a class, circulated by the library and used by pretty much anyone the institution wants, provided it is not shown to an audience outside the classroom, copied or streamed. I am not unsympathetic to point three , that filmmakers rely on the revenue from institutions to survive but I think though well intentioned they can't have their cake and eat it too. I have posted many, many times the only way to enforce this kind of individual Vs Institution pricing is by A. controlling all sales 100% from a single source and B. setting sales up with a clearly visible CONTRACT which they buyer must read and click along the lines of I have read and agree to these terms. Then contract trumps/limits standard copyright terms. For the record many filmmakers sincerely believe there is some kind of law requiring institutions to pay more to use films in classes. I am not saying it is true but many of them do believe this. As a buyer you may well want to find the cheapest legal copy and there is no prohibition on an individual buying a copy on behalf of an institution (unless it has written contract you must read and sign per above). I also think the flip side of this incorrect claim that institutions need special rights for classroom use, is the claim by some institutions that they need no rights to digitize and stream a film because it is for educational use I am actually hoping that since institutions will increasingly want to stream and since streaming is a right exclusive to the owner both sides can come to a deal where filmmakers get more money than a retail sale but give up more rights. Jessica On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Rosen, Rhonda rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu wrote: Yep, I know, but I 've never seen that written out that way in Amazon! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] query for librarians
Dear Librarian I'm running a small distribution project, Docs For Education distributing films mainly to the Educational Market, my advertising is mainly by e-mails to relevant people/libraries. I started out by targeting relevant Laison librarians, now I also send to Professors, my problem is that the orders come from the acquisition librarian and I don't know who Is the person that wanted the film , if I ask the acquisitions usually won't disclose that info so I don't ask. So I want to do a short question form for librarians !) who decides what film to purchase, Professor or Media Librarian is it important for you: 2) that film was at Film Festivals 3) won awards 4) Other libraries have purchased it 5) EMRO review 6) to get a preview/trailer 7) Relvance for studie programs Maybe a librarian has made a survey on how film orders are made? My short survey can help not only me and other distributers but also librarians on limited budgets what to purchase. For example our film One Day After Peace, has been at 70 film festivals, won first awards at many, can be found in 60 college/ university libraries, has a very favorable EMRO other reviews , is relevant to Peace , Conflict Resolution. South Africa, Israel-Palestine Studies, and who-ever asks can get a preview. Full info on web-site http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php Cheers Nahum Laufer lauf...@netvision.net.il http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ http://docsforeducation.com/index.php Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] being green
Hi librarians Following Green Planet efforts, to help the Planet I'm also trying to save the trees, very small saving . I suppose some of you received a DVD from me and wondered why I use such cheap packing. When I started to send DVDs I sent them in casing in envelopes lined inside with plastic bubbles coating (Made in China), I got complaints that the casing arrived cracked and DVD was scratched, Now a days I send in brown paper envelopes (Recycled paper) and put a piece of carton on both sides of the DVD casing (I use used carton boxes from the supermarket) for additional protection I put the DVD in the small DVD size casing into the regular casing, since I had not got any complaints. I don't save money on the packing but I'm proud to my small effort in recycling . cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:00 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 37 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Seeking gently used DVD cases (never been on shelves yet) (Suzanne Harle) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:37:14 -0500 From: Suzanne Harle suza...@greenplanetfilms.org Subject: [Videolib] Seeking gently used DVD cases (never been on shelves yet) To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 20131017103714.206732xpley3i...@www.greenplanetfilms.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Hi Folks Green Planet Films believes in reuse before recycling, and we are reaching out to media folks who might have a an ongoing supply of gently used DVD cases. We are looking for - clean stickerless cases with no imprints (eg Made in Mexico..I have seen this) - black, white or clear - holds 1 DVD only can be standard size OR slimcase. (this would work well for both parties if you receive NEW DVDs in standard packaging, then have to disassemble them to put into security cases etc) HOW IT WORKS - You save up 50-100 in a box, and weight it. - Email suza...@greenplanetfilms.org give the weight and address and we will mail you a postage paid label for the box. We are especially excited to send our new acquisition TRASHED WITH JEREMY IRONS in your used cases! Thank you for considering this REUSE project. See you at the NMM Sincerely Suzanne Harle Suzanne Harle Founder/Executive Director GREEN PLANET FILMS PO Box 247 Corte Madera, CA 94976 415.377.5471 mobile www.greenplanetfilms.org www.greenplanetstream.org a nonprofit organization End of videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 37 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] answer for jessica
-Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:34 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 9 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Help on licensing contract for streaming rights Hello everyone If Jessica asks for help then I also will throw in a few words. I believe one should keep things simple, If someone wants to cheat, bootleg etc' no wording will help so this is what I do , here is an example of an invoice with streaming rights for our film One Day After Peace. Public Performance Rights for audience not paying an entrance fee at Georgetown University library use $300 Streaming rights to stream from campus server, limited to Georgetown University faculty, staff and students.$100 Shipping $6 Total $ 406 I had one Institute that runs international online courses, (Has no face to face facilities) that wanted our film, we agreed (By an exchange of e-mails) that the film will be streamed to a limited number of students (500) of a specific course, the course has been delayed so nothing happened as yet. As streaming is becoming a trend I suppose more and more universities will want to stream, we at Docs for Education will allow streaming for those that have PPR for an addition of $100, that means if you already have a copy you don't have to pay $400 but only $100 to up-grade. Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] NTSC or PAL
I just want to add my experience with this problem I'm distributing a French film Murder of a Hatmaker I received from the director DVDs with notice that they are Multi-zone, I sold some in USA to university libraries, I got complaints that the NTSC players can't read the DVD, I got our studio to transform to NTSC and I resent those copies to the university libraries. I know there was no problem to play the DVD on a computer, as the EMRO reviewer wrote the review after viewing the original multi-zone DVD on the comp, cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:20:30 + From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] PAL and SECAM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: dac3018aad33dc41b8dca4808569d8fb243ff...@exmbt06.asurite.ad.asu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanx, Judy I guess I missed the part of the conversation about the video being in VHS. Completely off my radar now. Even if a computer DVD drive will play a PAL DVD, I have heard that after X number of uses the drive will lock onto the non-NTSC standard and will thereafter play ONLY that standard. Of so I have heard. -deg VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!!
Hi all The discussion on copyright and fair use never ends, why don't you all just buy the films with PPR in first place than there will be no discussion at all, no cases no judges lawyers, just simply buy the rights that is what Anthony at UCLA does. If you buy with PPR then classroom use is covered but also just a Friday evening film club could screen the film, as a distributer of the film One Day After Peace by producers order is distributed only as PPR. Other films the difference between University library use to PPR is $50 ($200-$250) I'm not keen on selling to individuals for personal home use, but sometimes people are keen on a film they heard about or have a personal tie to the story so I provide the film The following exchange of mails with a professor emeritus can explain the problem of selling a private copy (I have rubbed out the identity of the Prof) -- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 4:59 PM Dear . Thanks for asking the ..University library to order the film, and your advice. Yet putting the film on sale at retail outlet is shooting mine own leg. The following is not complaint but an explanation! According to rules in USA 1) Any professor or teacher can buy it for $30 and then screen it in classroom in Face to Face situation. 2) According to the rules of First Sale anybody can resale a legally purchased copy, even to university library! 3) A library can buy a DVD even if it is stated that the copy is only for home use, I already had 2 cases that DVDs of the Darien Dilemma were sold by Amazon to university libraries both were sold by people that received a Preview, one of the libraries (a very prestigious University) paid us again when they understood how the copy landed at Amazon. I let go the second one for it was a copy from a distributer that received a preview. As many librarians know that there are films that will not be put on the home video market as One day.they pay the fee asked for institutions with PPR (Public Performance Rights). For One Day After Peace it is $300 +$6 =$306 I do sell to private people for $50 + $6 (shipping)=$56 after I get a promise that it is for private home use. As I'm sure I can trust you please give me a sure Post address I'll send you a DVD of One Day.. And an invoice . Our Message is Peace, Salaam, Shalom Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:29 AM To: nahum laufer Subject: Re: One Day After Peace I will strongly recommend this purchase to the library. I hope that the library will place an order, but whether it will do so is beyond my control. I *do* strongly urge you to sell DVDs to the public, for example via the National Center for Jewish Film (http://jewishfilm.org/). Best wishes, .. - Dear ... Thanks for your interest in our film One day After Peace. The fee for DVD for library use PPR (Public Performance Rights is $300 + $6 (SH)= $306 Let your university library give me an OK (order no) and sure post address I'll send the DVD and Invoice Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:02 AM To: lauf...@netvision.net.il Subject: One Day After Peace Dear Nahum Laufer, Having seen the outstanding One Day After Peace at last year's San Francisco Jewish Film Festival, I've been hoping that it would be distributed commercially in the U. S. and would eventually come out on DVD (in which case I would be the first in line to buy it, to show to friends and loved ones). I understand that currently you are distributing it to educational institutions. I just retired as a university professor, and I'm wondering what the price would be for a U. S. DVD for an educational institution, if I could arrange for our university library to buy a copy. Thanks for your reply, and best wishes ... Today's Topics: 1. Re: The Good News about Library Fair Use (infographic) (Simpkins, Terry W.) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:59:50 + From: Simpkins, Terry W. tsimp...@middlebury.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Good News about Library Fair Use (infographic) To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: c5a00423efac4246a7590e06910c563d5acca...@mountainlion.middlebury.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 69, Issue 61
Hi Jessica We seem to agree, yet there are too many grey areas for example, a film is screened at the university hall a professor gives a 2 minute introduction it is face to face, I again say as a distributer I don't have the time or aptitude to find out who is violating trust , I believe most librarians don't want to bother with breaking the rules what I am suggesting a way out buy with PPR no headaches after, bargain with the supplier to pay for library use and get PPR for the same fee. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:15 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 69, Issue 61 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! (nahum laufer) 2. Re: The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! (Jessica Rosner) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:05:41 +0300 From: nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.il Subject: [Videolib] The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 004d01ce9ea1$6e800510$4b800f30$@netvision.net.il Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi all The discussion on copyright and fair use never ends, why don't you all just buy the films with PPR in first place than there will be no discussion at all, no cases no judges lawyers, just simply buy the rights that is what Anthony at UCLA does. If you buy with PPR then classroom use is covered but also just a Friday evening film club could screen the film, as a distributer of the film One Day After Peace by producers order is distributed only as PPR. Other films the difference between University library use to PPR is $50 ($200-$250) I'm not keen on selling to individuals for personal home use, but sometimes people are keen on a film they heard about or have a personal tie to the story so I provide the film The following exchange of mails with a professor emeritus can explain the problem of selling a private copy (I have rubbed out the identity of the Prof) -- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 4:59 PM Dear . Thanks for asking the ..University library to order the film, and your advice. Yet putting the film on sale at retail outlet is shooting mine own leg. The following is not complaint but an explanation! According to rules in USA 1) Any professor or teacher can buy it for $30 and then screen it in classroom in Face to Face situation. 2) According to the rules of First Sale anybody can resale a legally purchased copy, even to university library! 3) A library can buy a DVD even if it is stated that the copy is only for home use, I already had 2 cases that DVDs of the Darien Dilemma were sold by Amazon to university libraries both were sold by people that received a Preview, one of the libraries (a very prestigious University) paid us again when they understood how the copy landed at Amazon. I let go the second one for it was a copy from a distributer that received a preview. As many librarians know that there are films that will not be put on the home video market as One day.they pay the fee asked for institutions with PPR (Public Performance Rights). For One Day After Peace it is $300 +$6 =$306 I do sell to private people for $50 + $6 (shipping)=$56 after I get a promise that it is for private home use. As I'm sure I can trust you please give me a sure Post address I'll send you a DVD of One Day.. And an invoice . Our Message is Peace, Salaam, Shalom Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 12:29 AM To: nahum laufer Subject: Re: One Day After Peace I will strongly recommend this purchase to the library. I hope that the library will place an order, but whether it will do so is beyond my control. I *do* strongly urge you
[Videolib] PPR
Jessica freinds Am I right to say you cannot stream without having PPR??? We are selling our film One Day After Peace only as PPR, for we believe the message of the film about Peace, Shalom, Salaam' should be screened for everyone on the campus not just in the classrooms, As for other films we are distributing you can buy only library use!!! And when you decide to stream you have to upgrade to PPR and add a streaming license we will ask only for the difference for example University Library use is $200, PPR is $250 +$100 for streaming=$350 so you have to add $150 if you want to stream it I hope that is fair. I took Jessica's advice not to sell to individuals, but I can't tell a guy that finds in his late father's papers a release from being a sailor on the Darien II and wants the The Darien Dilemma that I'm not selling so I ask get $50+$6 (sh)=$56, (I ask for $50 to get rid of the nudniks) Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:55 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 69, Issue 68 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! (Jessica Rosner) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:54:41 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m-gV2oy7Q=w2f2mhmx9nnj0gtoccznnzo+3vu5vkkx...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I assume you mean companies or filmmakers who claim you need PPR for classroom use. You have NO idea how hard I sometimes have to explain to filmmakers that once a film is for sale in the retail market or through third parties, they have NO control over the otherwise legal uses. My current three filmmakers all understand so none will sell copies to individuals. Basically PPR on really educational material is a concept that dates back to early days of video when they really never considered individual or retail sales. PPR rights were basically a throw in for expensive non fiction films and would very rarely be used. Also I know this is going to get me in a lot of trouble with colleagues but I find the standard restriction on PPR rights to 50 people silly and unenforceable. Either you are selling a film with rights to exhibit or not. I get the restrictions that it is for on campus shows, no admission and not advertised off campus but not the limitation on the number of folks who can view it. Unlike PPR rights I think streaming rights are highly desirable to institutions and should make it easier to justify high costs. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote: Yes, this has happened with us on various occasions. It takes a lot of effort to get some of these folks turned around no their ideas of PPR. Randal Baier On Aug 21, 2013, at 22:01, Michael Phillips mphil...@library.tamu.edu wrote: Hello Jessica, ** ** PPR is becoming a larger issue with us, as we are encountering more vendors who are using their own definition of PPR. We have come across vendor websites that essentially state that PPR is needed for educational screenings and if their videos are purchased without PPR, those videos may be used only for private home use. ** ** Has anyone else come across this problem? ** ** Michael S. Phillips Library Associate I Monographic Acquisitions Division Texas AM University acqmo...@library.tamu.edu 5000 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-5000 Tel. 979.845.1343 ext. 151 | Fax. 979.845.5310 http://library.tamu.edu ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [ mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.eduvideolib-boun...@lists.berk eley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:15 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] The Good News about Library Fair Use maybe not so good!!! ** ** Nahum (wearing my
[Videolib] Film as memoir
Hi Jeff friends I'm adding a few titles to the long list of films that appeared today's mail. Murder of a Hatmaker Catherine Bernstein memorizes her great aunt she never met. See if I'm Smiling Seeds of Summer memoirs of girl soldiers. The House on August Street memoirs of orphans from Berlin. Rafting to Bombay my own story told by 3 generations, my mother, myself my son. See: http://docsforeducation.com cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:58 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 68, Issue 14 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: Film as memoir (Jeffrey Pearson) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:57:22 -0400 From: Jeffrey Pearson jwpea...@umich.edu Subject: [Videolib] Fwd: Film as memoir To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CAA5sMR2_3ha_XHkE2Wsudh-0Z5-=azcwg1+qao9nxwyjscb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I received this request from a prof and thought it would be fun for the list. I thought of these documentaries, but I'm sure she is also interested in feature films: Capturing the Friedmans 51 Birch Street Tarnation Thanks, Jeff UMich .. I'm creating a new course on writing memoir, and I want to include a couple of films. One that I haven't seen yet but that I think will fit well is Stories We Tell, a documentary by Sarah Polley about her deceased mother that incorporates the memories of a range of family and friends and in the process reveals a great deal about those being interviewed. Another possibility is Persepolis, based on the graphic novel/memoir by Marjane Satrapi. Do you have other films you could suggest that would fit this genre? Films that raise interesting questions about storytelling, memory, truth, conflicting versions of events, etc. would be particularly interesting. End of videolib Digest, Vol 68, Issue 14 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] world cat Previews
Dear Dorcas other friends It's not for me to change the rules laws, I have to continue to work distributing I accept the First sale rulings but my position is what about no sale copies, Previews even Presents, when there was no first sale. The advice to make the festivals sign an agreement is not practical, I subscribe online to forms, pay on-line submission fee and then get an address where to send the preview, no way to get an agreement most festivals will just disregard me, I prefer to trust them and be a part of their festival. From your mail (also Anthony's) your library and most others respect the rules, I'm letting the issue go I don't have the energy or will to quarrel over one copy. One Day After Peace was last week at 3 festivals, New-Jersey, Italy North Ireland, next month another one in Italy also in Poland 40 university libraries have the film For me our message of Peace , Salaam, Shalom is more important than one not polite librarian. Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 21:30:32 + From: Haller, Dorcas W. dhal...@ccri.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] more on World Cat To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 5422b4f40bd6d74fa6a68212df338be93c3d2...@kwmbox02.campus.ccri.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Nahum, Rhode Island may be a little state but we do have more than one institution of higher education. Granted, they all have similar names. I work at the Community College of Rhode Island (CCRI). The University of Rhode Island (URI) was the library that received the large donation of films from RIIFF (Rhode Island International Film Festival). While URI may have received your two films in that donation, I can tell you they do not appear in the library's catalog, and are probably not available for borrowing or showing publicly. You say your slogan is I trust you, trust me, but apparently you don't really mean it, if you spend time checking up on who has a copy of your films via WorldCat. Perhaps, like Reagan, your motto is really Trust but verify? You ask a good question about the transfer of the PPR. If one library has bought a film from you, with PPR, and then withdraws that film from its collection and transfers it to another library -- this could happen in a library consortium, for example -- do the performance rights transfer, too? They have been paid for, haven't they? I don't know the answer to this, I'm just speculating. Perhaps it would be necessary to state in the sales agreement that the PPR are not transferable? Furthermore, you say, ... on every private sale invoice is stated for private personal Home Use. So selling or donating to a library is a break of trust Here at CCRI (and, no doubt, other libraries), we have a few thousand films on DVD and VHS, both feature films and documentaries. We lend them, including the ones that have been donated, for private personal Home Use. We do not lend them to movie theatres, or to student groups for parties. If someone wants to borrow one of our films to show to publicly, we advise them about securing performance rights. I'm not sure I understand your belief that libraries are lending out their films for public performance. Surely, if you want to make sure your preview films aren't donated to libraries (or private persons) after a film festival, all you have to do is request that the films in question be returned to you after the festival? Dusty Haller Dorcas Haller Librarian/Professor/Department Chair Community College of Rhode Island Library One Hilton Street, Providence, RI 02905 dhal...@ccri.edu Phone: 401-455-6085 Fax: 401-455-6087 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] more on World Cat
Thanks Anthony, Jessica and others that answered my mail It doesn't help much so: Dear Dorcas Haller Rhode Island Community College My slogan is I trust you, trust me. Is it your library that received 500 DVDs from RIFF including 2 titles from us 'The Darien Dilemma Rafting to Bombay? I don't see the logic in your answer. Yes I sell mainly to libraries, I don't want to sell for private use for it is not worthwhile yet I make exceptions.* Why I don't see the logic is. If you can resell the DVD (or donate) Why not donate PPR, why not sell the DVD to your next door cinema hall screening to a fee paying public ? or maybe to your favorite channel TV? In my logic there is no difference, on every private sale invoice is stated for private personal Home Use. So selling or donating to a library is a break of trust, and we loose $200-$250 the difference from first sale to library sale. The issue of Previews is even less understood by me, we have to send previews otherwise who will know us. I don't send unsolicited DVD previews, when I send I always state I'm sending you a preview. Our film One Day After Peace has already been screened at 60 film festivals (more coming up) and a very special screening at United Nations Headquarters in New-York, to reach such number of festivals I have sent submissions to over 150 festivals, each received 1-3 previews, it seems I trust people to much, I can find a lawyer that will write a long statement yet I'm sure that Rhode Island International Film Festival will find a loophole and give away the DVDs, Today I received a request to submit to this festival it went straight into the dustbin. Festivals are important for us, No Library will buy a Doco-film that hasn't been accepted by no Festival and didn't get any prizes. In my Logic DVDs are not books, Libraries and private people buy books at the same price but for Films there is a tier system of prices, for we are selling is not 1 dollar empty DVD but a film, not a piece of metal but screening rights .that justifies the tier system. * With The Darien Dilemma I make exceptions, this week a man from Hungary told me his Grandparents mother were passengers on the Darien, A person from England his father was in the Kindertransport, but his grandparents perished in Kladovo, another person's father was a sailor on the Darien all wanted to know the saga so I sold them a private copy, or Yehuda Arazi from California grandson of the original Yehuda Arazi depicted in the film I sent him a present DVD. I did not get requests from private people not connected with the Darien Saga. www.thedariendilemma.com/ So you see I'm not complaining I just don't understand the logic , I will continue to sell to libraries even to private people for I believe 99.9% are trustworthy and respect copyrights as we do. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Did you sell it? (Do you *only* sell to libraries?) Once you've sold it, the owner (buyer) can do what s/he wants with it -- keep it, give it away, or discard it. If I buy a book, it is *my* property. I can keep it, I can donate it to a library, I can give it to a friend, I can throw it away. Even if you only sell your films to libraries, a library may decide at a later date to withdraw the film from its collection. It is conceivable that the library may ask if another library is interested in having it before getting rid of it completely. I don't see how you can expect to control your product once you have sold it. The only way you can do that is not to sell it. Dorcas Haller Librarian/Professor/Department Chair Community College of Rhode Island Library One Hilton Street, Providence, RI 02905 dhal...@ccri.edu Phone: 401-455-6085 Fax: 401-455-6087 -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:57:59 -0700 From: Anthony Anderson antho...@usc.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] World Cat To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 519d2347.3010...@usc.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Nahum! Assuming that the gift DVD is legitimate (and not a bootleg copy) then--yes, I very much believe that a library can accept it. The gift DVD can be allowed to circulate as part of the collection and can be shown in the context of a formal classroom presentation. However, if--say--a campus group wished to show the DVD at one of their meetings it would be very much incumbent upon that group to secure (and pay for) public performance rights. This scenario has yet to happen here at USC, but were our library to receive a pricey documentary as a gift, I would immediately contact the DVD's distributor and try to negoiate life-time public rights for the DVD. Other university and college libraries may have different policies, I don't know. What I do know is that many libraries accept books all the time
[Videolib] World Cat
Dear Collective Librarian knowledge of what is permitted or not, The following is an exchange of mails, I have rubbed out the name of the University library, My query is: can a library accept a DVD without knowing if they have permission to use it? Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Dear Monica, Thanks for your mail, no one has the right to give our films as a donation to a library. It must be misunderstanding It must be a copy that I sent to someone to preview only. The Darien Dilemma contains Archive Stills and Footage for which we paid so as we respect other peoples copyrights we expect that our copyrights will be respected. Let us know If you want to purchase it for your library, please give our catalogue a peek, I recommend our new film One Day after Peace http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Cheers Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland set 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: Monica sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:32 PM To: nahum laufer Subject: RE: The Darien Dilemma DVD on Worldcat This DVD was a donation to the library. If it is of any comfort, Bowie State University is a part of the Educational Market. Monica ... --- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:29 AM To: Monica Subject: The Darien Dilemma DVD on Worldcat Dear Monica Acquisitions University Library In Worldcat search I found out that your library has a copy DVD of The Darien Dilemma. Media | D810.J4 D25 2008 There must be some kind of misunderstanding We are self distributing the film, to the educational market. I have no record of sending it to your library or of an invoice. I'm curious to know how this DVD reached your Library. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Hollywood's stereotypes of Arab women
I can understand a research on how Hollywood depicts Arab woman, But can I suggest a more important research how Arab woman depict themselves. As a person living in Israel I see the diferance of appearance of Arab woman, 20-30 years ago you could not know by appearance who is an Arab girl or woman they were dressed in Jeans, even Mini-skirts, bare arms, hair and neck not hidden, now most (not all) wear Over-coats that sweep the floor, sort of scarf that hides the neck hair etc Even more extreme then the dress code of orthodox Jewish woman. I'm not researcher I'm not suggesting a reason or critism of any sort just what I notice around me, For those that interested in Arab woman I can suggest 2 films by Ibtisaam Maaraana an Israeli-Arab woman director Lady Kul el-Arab Badal both have excellent EMRO reviews cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel 1. Re: Hollywood's stereotypes of Arab women (Nellie J Chenault) 2. Re: Hollywood's stereotypes of Arab women (Elizabeth Stanley) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 17:30:07 -0400 From: Nellie J Chenault njche...@vcu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Hollywood's stereotypes of Arab women To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CAOG_sSx17Kb=gfzonvsg_skr-53bujg6h0fyzhdda0u8sjv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Thanks for the suggestion of docs. Please suggest features! Have a great weekend! Nell On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Anthony Anderson antho...@usc.edu wrote: ** I would also suggest the excellent documentary *Reel Bad Arabs*, which shows how Hollywood has treated both Arab men and women. Cheers! Anthony *** Anthony E. Anderson Assistant Director, Doheny Memorial Library University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182(213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu Wind, regen, zon, of kou, Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou. [image: e] On 5/10/2013 1:01 PM, Rosen, Rhonda wrote: Hi Nell, Have you looked at Valentino?s Ghost? Valentino's Ghost takes viewers on a chronological journey through more than a century of images of Muslims, Arabs and Islam in the U.S. media, from the early 20th-century fantasies of romantic sheiks to today's damaging stereotypes as evil fanatics. Through interviews with Robert Fisk, Niall Ferguson, and John Mearsheimer amongst others, the film shows the way in which the changing image of Arabs and Muslims has mirrored America's political agenda in the Middle East. Valentino's Ghost aims to sharpen viewers' media literacy and increase their skills in questioning media representations, especially those of minority groups and people with whom our government is in conflict. The film ends with a report of a few Hollywood films that have provided complex images and avoided ethnic stereotyping?Container ** ** Rhonda ** ** *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [ mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.eduvideolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.e du] *On Behalf Of *Nellie J Chenault *Sent:* Friday, May 10, 2013 12:22 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] Hollywood's stereotypes of Arab women ** ** Oh film collective, please help identify some films with either negative stereotypes or positive portrayals of Arab women in U.S. or Hollywood films. A faculty member is hoping to do research this Summer on this topic. Note that this is limited to Arab countrieshttp://www.adc.org/index.php?id=248, not Persian or Muslim / Islamic characterizations. She also welcomes portrayals of Arab-Americans. ** ** Some ideas: ** ** Arabian Nights (19420 Cleopatra (1917, 1934, 1963) Hildago (2004) House of Sand and Fog (2003) Indiana Jones Jewel of the Nile (1985) Kismet (1944, 1955) Sex in the City 2 (2010) The Kingdom (2007) The Mummy (1932, 1999) The Sheik (1921) The Sheltering Sky (1990) The Siege (1998) Sinbad films The Thief of Bagdad (1924) The Wind and the Lion (1975) Three Kings (1999) Towelhead (2007) ** ** Happy Friday! Enjoy your weekend! ** ** Nell Chenault Research Librarian for Film and Performing Arts VCU Libraries (804) 828-2070 ** ** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers
[Videolib] tier system of pricing
The Last weeks on this list there was a discussion on Pricing, As a self-distributer I did not invent the Tier Pricing system, but without this system of fees it is not worthwhile to distribute documentaries, if I would have to sell a DVD for $10 or even $50 it is not worthwhile, the number of sales won't grow. Yet I want the advice of the collective wisdom, here are 2 examples of problems a distributer 1) A lady that holds symposiums on Peace-building all over the globe usually in Universities, asked for a copy of One Day After Peace, and wants to use the film in her lectures, people that come to these symposiums don't pay for the specific screening but pay a nice fee for the symposium, my question is what should I ask for the DVD? A screening fee of $700 for the first screening $100 for each further screening, Or just the usual $300 for a PPR I asked that each institute should buy a copy for its library, but that didn't work. 2) A society screened Rafting to Bombay in an university and asked me to send the DVD to the university. I gave them the PPR fee of $250 for University library now the library doesn't want the film, if I had known that this was the situation I would have asked a higher screening fee , the tier system works both ways Universities get screenings cheap. Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Shooting one's own leg
Message: 4 I want to compliment on Anthony's attitude, the best is to be on safe side, See the practical side of a documentary film maker, most docs are not fit for the retail market, there is no chance that s/he will be able to mass sell retail on $30 per DVD, a producer that wants to sell to the educational market shoots his own leg if he puts it on the retail. So if you see our web-site we are only offering Library use or PPR for our films . That doesn't mean I won't sell a copy for private home use but I find out who is the person and for what reason he wants the film, Professors get an answer to apply to their library to purchase the film. A few weeks ago a guy found in his late father's papers that he had served aboard the Darien during WW II , I sold him The Darien Dilemma for $56 knowing that I'm not shooting my leg. I want to remind all readers of this Blog that we are not selling DVDs but films, and films are sold according to use and audience, Big TV station will pay more then a small cable station, theatre with a paying audience pays more then a PPR for a university and so on, It is completely justified that an university with a possible audience of thousands should pay more the private home use. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:57:19 -0800 From: Anthony Anderson antho...@usc.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Emails like this To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 511eaf3f.4060...@usc.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Here at USC we purchase between 100 and 150 documentary films a year, and it is very much our firm policy that such films *always *be purchased at the full institutional price. A few years back one particular documentary film was inadvertently purchased through Amazon and we ended up receiving am email from the distributor, very much similar to the message that Mary received in regards to*My Perestroika.* As soon as I read the email, I immediately got in touch with the distributor and apologized for the error. We sent back the offending DVD to Amazon and ordered the bonafide DVD from the company handing the academic distribution of the film. Were this to happen again, I would do exactly the same. It is not for me to say that other academic institutions should do likewise, but personally I believe you have the ethical responsibility to so do so. Also, too: understand that USC owing to its size and its close proximity to the entertainment industry,is subject to a lot more scrutiny than a lot more other academic institutions. Thus, we have to be relentlessly squeaky clean in everything we do when it comes to media. Cheers! Anthony *** Anthony E. Anderson Assistant Director, Doheny Memorial Library University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182 (213) 740-1190 antho...@usc.edu Wind, regen, zon, of kou, Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou. mhan...@tcc.edu Dear Ms. X, We recently noticed that you have a copy of My Perestroika in your library's collection. We are thrilled! This critically acclaimed documentary enables students to better understand Soviet and Post-Soviet life by following the lives of 5 Russians who were part of the last generation to live under the Iron Curtain. My Perestroika, which recently received a 2012 Peabody Award, is useful in a wide-variety of disciplines, including History, Anthropology, Political Science, and Sociology. At the bottom of this email, I have included just a few examples of what professors have said about the film (for more examples, please visit our website). According to our records, it seems that your library may have inadvertently purchased the copy of My Perestroika distributed by New Video/Docurama. Unfortunately, this version is for home use only. The only version of My Perestroika that is legally licensed for educational use is distributed by New Day Films. In order, for independent films such as My Perestroika to exist for use in teaching, and so they can continue to be made in the future by non-profit filmmakers such as Ms. Hessman, it is critical that institutions purchase the appropriate version. We realize that the cost of the educationally licensed dvd may not fit within your college's budget. The price was determined by the cost of making the film which, unfortunately, was very high (over 800k) particularly since Soviet archival and music rights were very expensive. We have discussed the price issue with our distributor and we are willing to offer you a one-time discount to purchase the educationally licensed dvd at the extremely reduced price of $150. You can purchase the film for at this special price by clicking here (http://www.newday.com/films/myperestroika.html). On the online ordering form, just select the button for the K-12 schools ($150 option). As you continue
[Videolib] preview for One Day After Peace
I need the collective advice of Video-Lib users The Film One Day After Peace was first screened at Hot-Docs Toronto Doc-Aviv -Tel-Aviv in April 2012, since it has been screened in over 30 film festivals also in over 100 screenings including United Nations Headquarters -New-York Carnegie Institute for Peace -Washington-DC. http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php As The Issue of Peace is important, Last month we decided to start distributing to libraries while the film is still on it's festival circuit. Already 15 Universities have purchased one day..' To get libraries to purchase the film we offer the possibility to get an online preview by Vimeo, I offer it only to professors or librarians that ask for a preview. I use the following wording: Thanks for your interest Here is the password Htpp://vimeo.com/XX Password: XX This is a preview for personal use only. Nahum I want advice on: 1) Is it clear that the recipient can use it only as a preview and for example not enter a class and screen the film? 2) Do any other distributers offer the same possibility? Thanks Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] undocumented workers
Hi Matthew I have a film for you I'm not a Filipino Krizel is a sweet 7 year-old girl. 1) there is no record of her birth. 2) she was left on the doorsteps of Janet who adopted her. 3) there is no official adoption. 4) Janet's 5 year work visa has long ago expired. 5)Krizel is Blind from birth The only place that Krizel and mother can get a reasonable life is Israel and she crys out I'm not a Filipino. see http://docsforeducation.com/Im_not_a_Filipina.php get a tissue ready Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: matthew.wri...@unlv.edu matthew.wri...@unlv.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 3:43 PM Subject: [Videolib] films on undocumented workers I have been asked to come up with a list of films on the lives of undocumented workers. ?The films need to focus on workers and their labor issues, as opposed to films on other parts of the undocumented experience (i.e. wonderful films like Inocente). ? I have several in our collection and don't need to know about those: Maid in America No Sweat El Contrato Los Trabajadores / The Workers but any others in the same ball park would be good to know about, especially if they highlight Latino workers. ?Thanks, Matthew VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:39:56 -0500 From: Elizabeth Stanley elizab...@bullfrogfilms.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] films on undocumented workers To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 0d60cf5d39dfde49ab3837411a72fbb2314096f...@bfsbs08.bf.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, Matt, Thanks for your inquiry. Bullfrog Films offers a DVD Brother Towns / Pueblos Hermanos for your consideration. Brother Towns / Pueblos Hermanos (DVD, 2010, 58 minutes, SDH Captioned) http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/brt.html An uplifting story about Jupiter, Florida's humane response to an influx of day laborers from Jacaltenango, Guatemala. Another film is Cash Flow Fever, part of the Life 5 Series. http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/l5cash.html One in ten people on the planet either send or receive money from abroad. Let me know if you have any questions. Elizabeth Stanley Bullfrog Films From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of matthew.wri...@unlv.edu Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:43 PM To: videolib@ Subject: [Videolib] films on undocumented workers I have been asked to come up with a list of films on the lives of undocumented workers. The films need to focus on workers and their labor issues, as opposed to films on other parts of the undocumented experience (i.e. wonderful films like Inocente). I have several in our collection and don't need to know about those: Maid in America No Sweat El Contrato Los Trabajadores / The Workers but any others in the same ball park would be good to know about, especially if they highlight Latino workers. Thanks, Matthew Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax) -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:07:29 -0500 From: TWN Distribution distribut...@twn.org Subject: [Videolib] films on undocumented workers To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CALGPJSv68==kP=y8CrmQcKrCLn_9Gx-hhQ3SHg=ykvupodz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Matthew, Third World Newsreel distributes WORK AND RESPECT by the Domestic Workers United. *WORK AND RESPECT* Over 200,000 women work in the homes of New Yorkers as housekeepers and nannies. Mostly women of color and often undocumented, their work is not covered by labor laws, and for many, the pay and conditions of work are beyond belief. The women are beginning to organize, though, to fight for a bill of rights. As one worker says: imagine if all 200,000 went on strike one day? Wall Street would have to shut down
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 67
You are just right -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:58 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 67 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 66 (Foster, Jennifer) 2. 3D projectors? (Peterson, Erika Day - petersed) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:15:32 + From: Foster, Jennifer fost...@uhv.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 66 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 2b268f6908f1e84f81ac902c322b0fb107c79...@mail04.uhv.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is it possible to move some of the automatic stuff that comes in these messages to the bottom of the message? Unless I actually open the message, I simply can't get my reviewing pane big enough to read the subjects contained in the emails without scrolling. And I'd like to know what's in each message before I read them. Does anyone else find this challenging? These are the lines I think should go to the bottom: Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu Thanks...jen Jennifer Foster Media Librarian Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library 361.570.4195 http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:00 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 66 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cleaning projection screen - response (Walt Lessun) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:54:42 + From: Walt Lessun wa...@gogebic.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Cleaning projection screen - response To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 3eb9a297c16b3b45b1c521247994f5d20babe...@mailgcc.common.gogebic.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Same procedure can be used on whiteboards when enthusiastic professors use permanent markers on whiteboards. Walt From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:14 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Cleaning projection screen - response From Henry Bravo, IMC Manager at Riverside City College, Riverside, CA We have had success using believe it or not WD-40...the key is to use clean rags like white cotton lint rags or the blue shop towels. NEVER SCRUB 1) Spray the WD-40 on the rag...enough that it is wet not dripping 2) Then you dab the screen that has the ink on it 3) Let the WD-40 breakdown the ink a bit 4) Then dab off with a clean rag 5) Then repeat steps 1 - 4 until the ink is removed 6) WD-40 is oily so it will leave a shiny area on the screen 7) While the screen is wet with WD-40 use regular rubbing alcohol in the same manner as you used the WD-40 in Steps 1-4 until the screen texture comes back to normal. Your screen should like good as new...but be patient it takes time for the liquids to breakdown the ink. When you're done you will notice where you just cleaned the area will be a little brighter than the rest of the screen...how noticeable this
[Videolib] streaming rights
For your collective knowledge Docs for Education is proposing the following terms for 3 year license for streaming, 3 years because who knows what will be the law in 3 years no need to buy longer term today, you can notice that if you already have PPR license then we are asking only $100 for the streaming I believe that is fair. Any body asking more is trying to make unfair money $175 for library classroom use. $250 for public screenings when no admission fee is charged. $500 for screenings with paying audiences. Shipping and handling fee is $6. $350 DVD and streaming rights with 3 year license from institution's own internal server. $100 Streaming rights for institutions with 3 year license from institution's own internal server that already purchased the DVD with Public Screening rights. $175 Streaming rights for institutions with 3 year license from institution's own internal server that already purchased the DVD with only Library use. These prices are for all titles at http://docsforeducation.com/ except One Day After Peace see http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php which is sold only as PPR for $300 Lets have a peaceful 2013 Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:35 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 62, Issue 25 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. RAW FAITH Video Librarian Best Doc Announcement! (Serena Koch) 2. Re: Streaming licensing for DVD?s already owned (Jessica Rosner) --- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:34:53 -0500 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming licensing for DVD?s already owned To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CACRe6m8b=nxryoo12nphd69qa2ftre6s_2cm-knbbpi6gmp...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Well from the point of view of the rights holder it is not about enhanced services but about enhanced rights. It is obviously different to own a physical copy that can be used in the classroom which is basically covered by the face to face exemption and circulated by the library to streaming it online for students to watch from anywhere over a long period. There have been two major legal cases on it but the results are not that helpful. In the UCLA Case where UCLA streamed thousands of titles and one the US distributors sued them, the case was tossed on issues that had nothing to do the right to stream ( mostly the standing of plaintiff who owned the US rights but was not the overall rights holder who was not a party). The Georgia State case is a little closer but involved the streaming of articles or book chapters rather than films. When the case was first brought by a group of small presses GSU was streaming entire works but changed it's policy immediately after the suite was filed. In the end while the judge ruled mostly in favor of Georgia State, she had also said that no more than 10% of a written work could ever be covered as fair use in online streaming. The case had a lot of other issues including the issue of if universities could stream a work if the rights holder did not have a streaming option. The publishers are appealing many of the issues and as it directly contradicts previous rulings like Kinkos and Michigan books it is likely to be taken up by the Appeals court. For the record the California Newsreel rates are actually pretty low since they offering what appears to be a lifetime license. Keep in mind that many distributors literally don't even own the rights to license many of their titles as it was generally not included in older contracts so it is tricky for them. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Rasmussen, Anne rasmu...@uwp.edu wrote: Dear Collective Wisdom, ** ** I am brand-new in my role as Copyright Librarian in our library. I am seeking clarification and any recent developments regarding ?streaming licenses? for DVDs already owned by an institution. ** ** As our institution begins to offer more distance education courses, I am beginning to receive requests to stream DVDs (already
[Videolib] indian fiilms
Hi Wochna Try Mrs Aroon she runs the Indian-American Film Festival ar...@iaac.us Aroon Shivdasani Indo-American FFNew-York See our film Rafting to Bombay Happy Christmas Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:39:01 -0500 From: Wochna, Lorraine woc...@ohio.edu Subject: [Videolib] FW: Indian films distributors To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 7a015ce5ac3b434cbdb0a258a3cbd01c4a3048d...@exmail2.ohio.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, I am looking for recommendations on distributors of Indian Films. I'm not seeing much on the videolib archives, I tried Worldcat (to check for distributors); but there seems to be a lot of illegal and/or unusual behavior whenever I visit some website that is recommended. Even the National Film Development Corporation of India is not helpful. Any suggestions would be welcome. lorraine wochna Ohio U, Alden Library Mani Kaul is the director and the films are Uski Roti (A day's bread) 1969, Ashad Ka Ek Din (A Monsoon Day)-1971-Hindi, Duvidha (Two Roads) - 1973 - Hindi, Siddheswari - 1989 - Hindi, Nazar (The gaze) 1990 - Hindi, Naukar Ki Kameez(The Servant's Shirt) - 1999 - Hindi. Another Filmmaker is Kumar Shahani and his films are, Maya Darpan (Mirror of Illusion) - 1972 - Hindi, Tarang (The Wave) - 1984 - Hindi, Kasba - 1990 - Hindi, Char Adhyay - 1997 - Hindi The last one is Ritwik Ghatak and his films are, Nagarik(The Citizen) - 1952 - Bengali, Ajantrik(Pathetic Fallacy) - 1958 - Bengali, Bari Theke Paliye(Runaway) -1959 - Bengali, Megh Dhaka Tara(The Cloud Capped Star) - 1960 - Bengali, Komal Gandhar (E-Flat) - 1961 - Bengali, Subarnarekha (The Golden Line) - 1962 - Bengali, Titas Ekti Nadir Naam(A River Named Titas) - 1973 - Bengali, Jukti Takko Aar Gappo (Arguments and a Story) - 1974 - Bengali -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. End of videolib Digest, Vol 61, Issue 24 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] . Re: Perennial topic: intercultural communication
Docs for Education has 3 titles that fit into intercultural communication 1) Lady Kul El-Arab a Arab Druze girl wants to be Miss Israel her tribe threatens murder. 2) Blood Relation First cousins One an Muslim Arab from Palestine the other a Jew from Israel. 3) I'm not a Filipina 7 year old blind orphan born growing up in Israel is adopted by foreign worker that has to return to the Philippines. Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Your Aticle on copyrights
Hello Eriq I read your article: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/hot-topic-consumers-rights-re-sell- movies-songs-books-377046 I'm wondering if there has been a court-case about pre-view DVDs been sold or given away by the receiver. From discussion on videolib I learnt that Rhode Island International Film Festival gave away 500 previews to Rhode Island University library, including 2 films I sent them, also I caught 2 other previews that were sold on Amazon, (but in those 2 cases I received our fee) These I know about I suppose many more reached libraries that did not pay for them You can publish this fact on Hollywood Reporter about RIIFF maybe all the producers will make strike and not send previews to RIIFF that is better then going to court, and it will teach people that a preview is a preview, only a preview and not something else. If you don't want the film that is OK, but to sell it or give it away that is HUTZPA even if it is legal. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant (Jessica Rosner)
Jessica A wonderful explanation. As a distributer Docs For Education I want to add I don't want the retail Market at $25 a DVD, the work to correspond , invoice post etc. is the same for a Library use at $175 or a private home use at $25, as the so called fair use allows a legally bought DVD to screen a film in a classroom, I and other distributers have no reason to shot my own leg and sell for home use Sometimes an individual person contacts me for specific title that he has a personal interest in. This week a guy found a document that his father served 1943 on the SS. Darien and asked me for the Film the Darien Dilemma, I asked and got $56 yet specified it is only for his Home use If a university professor asks for a copy (very rare) I prefer to send him a Preview stating it is for personal use,( I hope that as s/he has not paid for it they can't use it in classroom), asking them that the library will contact me for a purchase. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Today's Topics: 1. Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant (Richard Graham) 2. Re: Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant (Jessica Rosner) 3. Re: Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant (Norman Howden) 4. Re: Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant (Dennis Doros) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:26:54 + From: Richard Graham rgrah...@unl.edu Subject: [Videolib] Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant To: cams...@lists.carleton.edu cams...@lists.carleton.edu Cc: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: ddaa91b1d53bc14dba679e49ea74af11195a4...@by2prd0811mb441.namprd08.prod.outl ook.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Fellow camslib/videolib folks, A faculty member recently requested we acquire a film titled White Scripts and Black Supermen: Black Masculinities in Comic Books. At the site to purchase it, the dreaded tiered pricing plan appears (http://newsreel.org/video/WHITE-SCRIPTS-BLACK-SUPERMEN), with public and school libraries allowed to buy it for $25, while colleges have to spend nearly $200. They claim if you purchase the home video version, you are not granted rights to show the film in classrooms. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but these sort of statements don't sound right to me. A colleague mentioned that some publishers do this because they need funds to cover future productions and it's a way for large institutions to subsidize independent documentaries, but I can't help feel offended that they use these scare tactics and assume colleges can easily absorb these large costs. I'm probably late to the party on this topic, but I wonder what your thoughts are. Does anyone try to work with publishers/producers to make these sort of materials more affordable? How do you all handle these sort of acquisition situations? Cheers from Nebraska, Richard -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:41:56 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Institutional Pricing for DVDs rant To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: cacre6m8by1ggmwy39htzjm4o4+23godoqcgrjksm2a4kegn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have probably posted on this dozens of times. You do NOT need any extra rights to show a legally acquired film in classroom BUT if it is only sold from a single source ( Filmmaker or their rep) as opposed to retail ( Amazon etc) than they can pretty much set any restrictions/pricing they want by CONTRACT though it should be made clear that it is contract and not copyright and the system should include one of those I have read and agreed to these conditions type of sign off at point of sale. A lot of distributors are between a rock and hard place. They have films which have very limited retail value but they also want as many people as possible to see the film so many offer copies to individuals. In the old days they rarely did. This comes with the obvious pitfall that you are going to piss off libraries who have to pay more. Sadly the vast majority of these films simply could not be made and distributed if all copies were sold at $25. I am justifying just explaining the reality. Personally I just think it better not to offer copies to individuals even if that limits the markets. I worked for several years on an excellent series of films on post genocide Rwanda and there was never an option for individuals to purchase the films at a retail price BUT when a special request was received, we would often agree to it explaining that we would make the exception but the film could not be used in a class or given to a library. Some of you may remember many months ago when the groupon experiment was tried. One company ( sorry guys I can't remember which one) offered to sell some of their most
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 57, Issue 29
Jessica I send previews on request, or after filling a submission form on web-site. My experience is such that 99.5% or more understand what a Preview is, I'm interested in distributing and not worrying about legalities, working with trustworthy people. But these days of the global village, you cannot cheat so here is a true tale. I found out that there is a copy of The Darien Dilemma for sale on Amazon, as I'm the only one selling this film I asked them to take it off from the sales, as the vendor was some phony without a web-site. I let it go as it disappeared from their catalogue. Some months later I noticed a very prestigious university library has the film (WorldCat) so I asked how they got it, Amazon was the answer, so I told them it is a bootleg copy the university paid our catalogue price after paying once before to Amazon. Today I received a negative answer from a festival, I asked them to destroy the DVD the answer was I will That is what I will do from now on. Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:52 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 57, Issue 29 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: previews (Jessica Rosner) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:30:39 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] previews To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: cacre6m_k5j_irzim-pkejkcta8aoq6t23xspunxmmtpxn_p...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Nahum, Two things you really need to do (if you are not already doing so) DO NOT SEND an unsolicited preview. Send only to people who request them or who respond directly that they want to see the preview ( like a critic). If you send one out without some understanding than you are not protected. You should also always request the screener be returned. Does not mean it will be and I would not obsess on it but you need to make it clear that you have asked for it back or if you prefer you could ask them to confirm they will destroy it. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM, nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.ilwrote: Two weeks ago Angel asked for advice if she can use 500 Preview DVDs that Rhode Island IFF passed on to her library, I wrote my advice privately by e-mail I did not get a response neither did I notice a response from her to all the advice that appeared on this blog. So I wrote a second e-mail asking Angel to send $ 500 to Erez Laufer films as 2 of the DVDS were Preview DVDS I sent to RIIFF The Darien Dilemma Rafting to Bombay, ($250 is the catalogue price for Library use with Public Performance Rights) of course she can tell me that she destroyed those DVDs, my advice was destroy all. I must remark, that these days the business of distributing films is done by e-mails, it is a business of trust, I trust my clients and I'm sure they trust me, I use short, mostly impersonal mails without too many explanations, who wants to get a preview with a 22 page contract? So all I say in the e-mail is I'm sending you a Preview DVD. With an understanding what a preview is, that it is a preview. Only a preview, just so the Festival will know if they want the film or not. It is not a present, a free copy, or a legal first sale any use other than as a preview is a break of trust, and what RIIFF has done is unforgivable . Maybe it is legal (I don't think so) but it stinks I believe if this news goes around nobody will ever send a preview to RIIFF, I will not they have shot their own leg. I'm sending Previews not only to Film Festivals, also film Series, TV Stations, Cinemas. Community Centers, newspapers (for reviews) and occasionally a professor will ask for a preview so to see if s/he wants it for the library to buy. I will continue to send Previews for I trust People specially librarians, Angel RIIFF you don't have to worry that I will go to court, I want to distribute films and don't have the time or energy for legal fights. Listen to my advice destroy the DVDs. Cheers everybody Nahum Laufer http
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 56, Issue 10 bootleg copies
Hi Tyra I once caught Amazon selling a bootleg copy of The Darien Dilemma to a very prestigious university library, the library didn't think twice bought a legal copy. From Amazon not even an apology, just a long legal bla-bla that they are not responsible for what is on sale on their site. We don't sell films on Amazon and I don't think I ever will Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:12 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 56, Issue 10 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: John Baldessari: 4 Short Films 1972-1973 (Michael Phillips) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:11:21 + From: Michael Phillips mphil...@library.tamu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] John Baldessari: 4 Short Films 1972-1973 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: a356161b9023e1489eefc4d4d42f7ed61b7ea...@exch-mailbox3.library.tamu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Tyra, You still have to be careful when dealing with used copies, and marketplace sellers will charge what they think they can get. We recently returned a pricey DVD box set to a marketplace seller who was unaware that she was selling a bootleg edition. When you are unsure of a DVD, do some Internet searching: 1. Read the reviews, if there are any, for the DVD on Amazon.com. Sometimes a reviewer will say if a DVD is a bootleg. For example, see the one-star reviews for the DVD set Sailor Moon Limited Edition Box Set II (http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Moon-Limited-Box-Set/dp/B000RJSR2C/ref=sr_1_2? s=movies-tvie=UTF8qid=1341512922sr=1-2keywords=sailor+moon+dvd). 2. Try to match a listed DVD against records in OCLC (WorldCat). See if the listed DVD is suspiciously different from anything already published. Contact the libraries that own a copy of the DVD to see how they came by their copy and what they can tell you about it. 3. Perform an Internet search for the studio listed in the DVD's description on Amazom.com and see if anyone has accused them of making/selling bootleg DVDs. If the studio and/or marketplace seller has their own website, go there and look for information about the origin of their DVDs. 4. Sometimes an Internet search for the DVD and the word 'bootleg' may turn up results (such as this guide to Sailor Moon bootleg editions on eBay: http://reviews.ebay.com/Sailor-Moon-The-eBay-Bootleg-DVD-List?ugid=1 01727858). 5. Contact the sellers in the Amazon.com marketplace and ask for more information about the product. For example, the Amazon.com marketplace sellers for the DVD you are looking for do not describe a DVD in their product descriptions; they either describe a book or an audio set. If we were looking to purchase this DVD, we would contact them and ask for them to verify what they are selling. 6. If you purchase one of the marketplace DVDs, carefully inspect the container and disc label after the DVD arrives and see what companies are listed as the publishers/distributors. Do an Internet search for the companies as described above. Michael Phillips From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:35 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] John Baldessari: 4 Short Films 1972-1973 Tyra You are right to be cautious re Amazon Marketplace and similar places to find rare materials. Basically it is a matter of common sense. All copies are being sold used and at a pretty high price so I think in this case they are all legit. A key here is that you know the film WAS released on DVD and the details match. Red flags are raised when internet sellers have titles for which there is no record of them having been legally released ( So no legit DVD (or VHS) copies of Preminger's Porgy Bess or the infamous Song of the South) let alone new ones for $20 which you can find around. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Grant, Tyra tgr...@ku.edumailto:tgr...@ku.edu wrote: Gary, Brigid Michael---thanks all. Gary---Yes, we've checked EAI
Re: [Videolib] quality check? (Meghann Matwichuk-Rhonda Rosen
Hi Rhonda, Meghann and other Media librarians I want to give some of my experience with DVDs, 1) DVDs are tricky pieces of metal, they work on one device and behave badly on another, the following tale will explain : In a public screening in JCC Utopia in Brooklyn towards the end (50 min) of a 70 minute screening of Rafting to Bombay the DVD stopped and the operator could not run it to the end, he had a another DVD it had the same problem , he checked both on his own home DVD they had this problem, he sent them back to me, we checked them, both worked perfectly. As a client is always correct we compensated the JCC . My conclusion and experience is that the same DVD works on one device and not on another, but usually computers read them without a problem . 2) another problem is scratches on the DVD that occur en-route by post, as the postal services squeeze the packets, the plastic casing (book size 19 X13 cms) tend to crack , the bubble sheeted envelopes don't give enough protection so now I use ordinary recycled paper envelopes and pad the DVD with carton cut out of discarded cartons, and put the DVD into a plastic sleeve that goes into the bigger book size casing, giving double protection, I believe I have solved this problem. 3) I'm distributing a French film Murder of a Hatmaker I received from the producer Multi-zone DVDs but they didn't work on NTSC players in USA , I had to make NTSC copies and replace the ones I already distributed in America. I hope my experience helps in deciding if to check or not DVDs Cheers Nahum Laufer http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php http://docsforeducation.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel videolib@lists.berkeley.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:52 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: quality check? (Meghann Matwichuk) 2 -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 11:36:06 -0400 From: Meghann Matwichuk mtw...@udel.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] quality check? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 4ff31166.6020...@udel.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Rhonda, We do have our students scan most material (standard DVDs and Blurays, skipping through chapters, just to make sure there are no obvious problems with operability). There aren't many problems, but this doesn't take much time. We have any DVD-Rs or very expensive films watched from start to finish. We do turn up problems in some DVD-Rs, especially from a few key vendors, so we feel this is very important even though it takes some time. We don't want a problem discovered after the film has been added to the collection and is being used in a class. Best, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Film and Video Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo On 7/2/2012 7:31 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote: Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We are finding that this is becoming a burden...we used to use students to check, but with less and less work study Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not watching videos... Is it worth it? Rhonda Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media Access Services William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.edu http://library.lmu.edu/ You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians. *--Monty Python* VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers
Re: [Videolib] Community Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries
I didn't see this posted on Videolib My problem is a practical one not theoretic legal query on fair use -Original Message- From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:24 PM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Cc: 'bgri...@ci.glendale.ca.us' Subject: RE:Community Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries 3. Re: Community Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries Hi All I have a problem as a distributer of documentaries. A DVD is just a piece of metal, a big TV station pays more then a small cable TV, Libraries pay us $500 for a screening for entrance paying audiences, Only $250 for PPR for non paying audiences, $175 for University library use, from this we all can deduct and agree on that what we are selling is Screening rights not DVDs. I'm not interested in selling Home Video, so if somebody asks for a film I ask for $50 + $6 (Shipping) so as to deter the nudniks, most don't care to return, but if he is a grandchild of a passenger on the Darien he will buy The Darien Dilemma . This week I received a request from a University Professor for one of our films to purchase as Home Video, I know he learnt about the film from a forward from the University library my problem is should I sell it and then he can use it in class in face to face screening or should I prefer to send him a free preview hoping the University library will then purchase it, or maybe as he received the preview legally he can still use it in a classroom in face to face situation? Nahum Laufer http://docsforeducation.com/ http://onedayafterpeace.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 3 Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:39:05 -0700 From: cc Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: F3DA2580E5D27F4EAE89E3C197FF2496038D8B1C@exserv1.cogexch.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all! Does anyone know if any *public* librarians were contacted/consulted for this? Our concerns and usages are quite different, after all . . . Bryan Griest Glendale Public Library VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Community Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries
3. Re: Community Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries Hi All I have a problem as a distributer of documentaries. A DVD is just a piece of metal, a big TV station pays more then a small cable TV, Libraries pay us $500 for a screening for entrance paying audiences, Only $250 for PPR for non paying audiences, $175 for University library use, from this we all can deduct and agree on that what we are selling is Screening rights not DVDs. I'm not interested in selling Home Video, so if somebody asks for a film I ask for $50 + $6 (Shipping) so as to deter the nudniks, most don't care to return, but if he is a grandchild of a passenger on the Darien he will buy The Darien Dilemma . This week I received a request from a University Professor for one of our films to purchase as Home Video, I know he learnt about the film from a forward from the University library my problem is should I sell it and then he can use it in class in face to face screening or should I prefer to send him a free preview hoping the University library will then purchase it, or maybe as he received the preview legally he can still use it in a classroom in face to face situation? Nahum Laufer http://docsforeducation.com/ http://onedayafterpeace.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 3 Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 09:39:05 -0700 From: cc Practices in the Fair Use of Video in Libraries To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: F3DA2580E5D27F4EAE89E3C197FF2496038D8B1C@exserv1.cogexch.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all! Does anyone know if any *public* librarians were contacted/consulted for this? Our concerns and usages are quite different, after all . . . Bryan Griest Glendale Public Library VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, best international formats player, region free zone
My experience As I distribute films to all regions I check DVDs on my laptop comp, Dell Vostra with Windows 7, both PAL NTSC work fine, so if you have a computer try a Pal copy on it always can use it and send to a screener in a classroom/hall. Lately I received from France for distribution Murder of a Hatmaker (Assassinat d'une Modiste) on the DVD was written Multi Zone , I checked the DVD both on my comp and my Home DVD player (Wilson made in France) and it worked, But when I sent the multi-zone DVD to USA I received complaints that it did not work on DVD players, so I made NTSC copies and replaced 25 copies that I had already distributed What is the problem with US DVD players? Nahum Laufer http://docsforeducation.com/ http://onedayafterpeace.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:31:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu Subject: [Videolib] best international formats player, region free zone To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: 1642516673.5118227.1335364300862.JavaMail.root@emu-sfpop-mailstore08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My apologies for asking the group directly for immediate advice, even though this has been discussed and I could data mine the archives. I need a fast turn around. I have the go ahead to get one or two international region-free players for multiformats, and would like to get some recommendations for something that could encompass various faculty requests for foreign language media, (Europe, Mideast, Africa, China, Japan) that would enhance world languages currcilulum and also allow us to get works that might just not be coming out in USA. I see price ranges for these units running from $80-600 !! In video cassette days we had a Panasonic machine [insert extensive part number] that seemed to be in every instructional media dept. across the country. Is there such a beasty today that is vetted? ~ reb ~ Randal Baier Eastern Michigan University Ypsilanti, Michigan 48197 (734) 487-0020 x2401 rba...@emich.edu tweets @rbaier ? skypes @ randalbaier -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:14:05 -0400 From: Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] best international formats player, region free zone To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: CAPiNLPKyraEGgpJb_x=xwxqj0rantewmdfxwaejgkfejsa1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 OPPO BDP-93 Universal Network 3D Blu-ray Disc Playerhttp://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/plays all bluray and DVD formats, but make sure that it's adapted for all-region play. Despite it's name, previous models had to be adapted by outside companies for that. However, it's the best machine on the market for all-region use. If you're only looking for a DVD player, there are cheaper models. Dennis Milestone Film Video * -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:23 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 68 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 45 Family violence
Have a peek at our web-site; http://www.docsforeducation.com/Lady_Kul_El-Arab.php I think that Lady Kul El-Arab can fit into a program on domestic violence, in Angelina's case threats were Violence. We started Docs for Education a few months ago the first film we recommended was Lady Kul El-Arab many University libraries have purchased this film, among them Yale, Tennessee, Florida, Texas, McGill, Pennsylvania, Pacific Lutheran, Midllebury Alaska more. The Muslim Society is a mystery to most westerners, we offer a window by Ibtisam Salh Mara'ana, a very talented Arab-Israeli women director whose films deal with the difficult life of women in Traditional Muslim society. Her films have received world-wide recognition by leading film festivals. It is a wonderful film exposing a world mostly unknown to the public, that of the Lady Kul El-Arab beauty pageant for Arab women in Israel. The film focuses on Angelina-Duah Fares, a young Druze woman who aspired to be Miss Israel and Miss Universe, but who was forced to leave the contest after she and her family received death threats. This film has received many prizes in film festivals all around the world, and I highly recommend it. P.S. ... A tragic event happened a some months ago. Mona Fares, Angelina's sister, was murdered because she didn't want to dress or behave in the traditional manner. Now, no Model agency wants to hire Angelina because they have also received threats. Nahum Laufer http://docsforeducation.com/ http://onedayafterpeace.com/ Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: matthew.wri...@unlv.edu Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:35 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] domestic violence documentaries I am looking for documentary films on domestic violence, particularly any with a legal or criminal justice angle (not psychology, diagnosis or healing or social work or training videos). Crime After Crime recently released by Roco Ed is a geat example which we intend to use. I am wondering about other films in a similar vein. We already have: Domestic Violence (2 part title from Zipporah) Breaking the Cycle of Domestic Violence The Healing Years Battered Hearts Battered Women (films for humanities) Behind Closed Doors Defending Our Lives A Love that Kills Terror at Home These will be viewed in class as part of a seminar on the topic. I am trying to find more titles to purchase for the prof to view over the summer before settling on the chosen titles for the syllabus in the fall. No movies or fiction films are wanted. Thanks, Matthew -- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:37 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 45 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/video...@lists.berkeley.ed u or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Paris is Burning - PPR (Brigid Duffy) 2. Re: Paris is Burning - PPR (Jo Ann Reynolds) 3. Domestic Violence Documentaries (Andrea Janes) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:58:55 -0700 From: Brigid Duffy bdu...@sfsu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Paris is Burning - PPR To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: d5899eb6-319d-40b9-ba8f-fe4eba872...@sfsu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Just answered my own question. Swank. Brigid Duffy bdu...@sfsu.edu On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Brigid Duffy wrote: Hi Videolib, Who should be contacted about public performance rights for Paris is Burning? It's a Miramax film, distributed by Buena Vista. A campus group wants to show it. Thanks, Brigid Duffy Academic Technology San Francisco State University San
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 53, Issue 15
Dear Gary I just arrived at your Video lib this week, and you won't be around. Thanks for all your help My advice as one pensioner to another, don't sit around doing nothing find something interesting something differant, I myself was an expert on drip irrigation joined my son to make and distribute films. Nahum Laufer At 11:17 AM 02/04/2012, you wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls It is with a mix of melancholy, ebullience, slight trepidation, and vast relief that I announce my forthcoming retirement from the University of California Berkeley and the Media Resources Center on June 28, 2012. Today marks my 33rd anniversary with the University, and this year my 36th as a librarian (a fact which seems more than a little surreal to me). I???ve been director of the Media Center for about 28 of those years, and there hasn???t been week, good or bad, that has gone by without my murmuring a little thanks for the cosmic hiccups that allowed me to stumble into such a cool and personally rewarding gig. I simply cannot think of anywhere that I would have been happier professionally, or another position in which I would have grown and learned and contributed as much. In some sense, I feel a bit like Mark Twain, who was born during the fiery appearance of Halley???s Comet, and who went out with its reappearance, 74 years later. I began my career in media in the early 80s, at the dawn of the home video age (or the ???Video Revolution??? as it was often hyperbolically called in the library literature at the time). I???m bowing out of the business at a time when the technologies and economics of video production and distribution, and the video content universe itself are again in a state of radical flux. Along with these changes, video collections and service in libraries are also bound to experience major tremors and evolutionary shifts. I???m not sure whether I???m leaving the scene feeling sanguine or pessimistic about this future, but in any case it???s definitely going to be an interesting and challenging next decade. I am going to miss all my long-time professional pals profoundly, both those on the library side and the distributor side of the fence. I grew up with a number of you in this field, and along the way you???ve become a kind of extended workaday family, complete with the obstreperous get-togethers, occasional bickering, and comforting sympathy. I???m also heartened by the number of young, creative, and energetic colleagues who have hopped on board in more recent times. Definitely makes me less gloomy about prospects for the future. Not sure exactly what I???m going to do next: I???d like to continue teaching film somewhere on campus or off; I???m up for grabs as a consultant; want to write a bit; gotta catch up on all the national cinemas I???ve given short-shrift to over the years; want to log in more gym time; would like to hone my banjo and ukulele-playing chops; want to get back to freelance cartooning and illustration. At very least, I???m aiming at becoming an accomplished and well-known Berkeley fl??neur and caf?? personality. As for the fate of the UC Berkeley Media Resources Center? In light of the dire econommic straits into which UC has been shoved, it is almost completely unlikely that my position will be filled any time soon. The future of the redoubtable MRC collection and website remains murky, at best. I can???t really think about all of this too much; it???s just too damn depressing to ponder, and I???ve got other things on my mind. In other words, apr??s moi, le deluge, and there???s not a damn thing I can do about it. For the time being, Gisele Tanasse (MLIS), crack MRC Operations Czarina, will look after the shop. She has also graciously agreed to keep an administrative eye on videolib and videonews. (Note, however, that she???s going out on maternity leave from May until around the end of September, so you???re pretty much on your own during that hiatus. Play nice!). Gisele???s email is gtana...@library.berkeley.edu. I???ll be around and wrapping things up for the next few months. My civilian email address after June is going to be garyhand...@gmail.com and I???m also on Facebook. I???d love to stay in touch (but please don???t contact me about anything having to do with copyright or fair use). Best of luck for the future, comrades! Continue fighting the good fight. It really has been an honor and a delight working with you all. Salud! Gary Handman Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats
Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies
Gary , Vicki Elizabeth Thanks for your remarks Selling by e-marketing is first of all trusting people, as Gary bought out the issue of our price policies wording, I would like his opinion on the following: Public Libraries , lending for Home use only. Does that mean a school teacher can borrow a film screen it in a face to face situation? Second I have no problem with a library system with a number of branches buying one copy and sending to a branch according to demands, but it is a serious breach of copyright if you make copies or stream it to the branches. As to the price, we at Docs for Education are offering award winning, quality documentary films, after a round of Film Festivals, The way to expose them to wide publics is through Libraries, especially those that have film series. Many distributers don't put a selling price at their web-site, and will quote only after you ask them, My experience that quoting a price shows reliability, I don't know what would be a fair price for : Public Libraries , lending for Home use only. So I'll act as a vendor at Colba Market - Mumbai Memsahib give me your good price. Have a happy Easter or Pesach www.docsforeducation.com Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of elizabeth mcmahon Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 1:00 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies Thanks, Vicki, for seeing my perspective. I'd like to take this opportunity to make a crucial amendment to what I said, now bolded and underlined: Potentially, you could be looking at one copy each for a system of say, 10 federated libraries, or a really large system of 90 branches. And hopefully, the subject matter is compelling enough that it circs more than once or twice. That's where collection development and knowledge of the community and its library collections' usage is paramount. We want statistics, afterall, everyone's bread and butter! Elizabeth From: Vicki Nesting vnes...@bellsouth.net To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies I want to second what Elizabeth is saying. Not all public libraries do public screenings and if they do, it may be a one time thing, in which case they will request public performance rights. At least 99% of the dvd use in our medium-sized public library is home use. And, as Elizabeth points out, we cannot plunk down $100+ for a dvd that's for home use only and may only check out once or twice. It's just not a reasonable cost for us. Vicki Nesting St. Charles Parish Library Louisiana elizabeth mcmahon wrote: Nahum, That may very well be true; I cannot speak for all public libraries/systems. That's also not to say just because there is a public meeting room or even an auditorium that it is used for screenings also. Many libraries do not bother with film programming, regrettably. But there is a big difference between a public library doing public programming (for which titles would necessarily need PPR) and patrons browsing open stacks (and still in this day and age, browsing cards that represent titles kept in closed stacks for security reasons) and picking up a few things to take home to watch. That is what is termed home use only and strictly copyright protected. Public libraries cannot plunk down $100+ for a dvd that's home use only. Won't/cannot happen. Thus the price adjustment downwards by an increasing amount of distributors. Potentially, you could be looking at one copy for a system of say, 10 federated libraries, or a really large system of 90 branches. Obviously there's a profit margin in there, if you are open to it. Of course libraries that plan on public screenings either need one time only permission depending on what the film/dvd is or more often merely will purchase a copy with PPR for the permanent collection. My question was aimed at what you are doing to get your titles exposed to a greater audience. Elizabeth McMahon From: nahum laufer lauf...@netvision.net.il To: 'elizabeth mcmahon' elizmcma...@yahoo.com; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies Hi Elizabeth Thanks for your remarks. Of course I distribute to Public libraries, but to best of my knowledge most libraries today have a screening room, nearly all also have film series/clubs, so no point in licensing only for lending only, yet when a small community library applied to me I gave a discount. Also a big county library with 20 branches wants say 10 copies one for each branch also will receive a discount. Please let me know in which library you serve. Best Nahum Laufer Sales Docs
[Videolib] DVD approval plans
Hello Anthony I'm a distributor of documentary quality films. Your university has already purchased one of our films The Darien Dilemma. I see no point in a somebody else distributing our films , that will raise the price and the filmmaker will not get more. Yet I have sold a few copies through suppliers that take a commission from the university, I got our asking price. See our catalogue www.docsforeducation.com Cheers Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] FW: pricing
From: nahum laufer [mailto:lauf...@netvision.net.il] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:11 PM To: 'f1b8e9be1c318848bec07a8bd721d6169...@ex2010mailstore.wabash.main' Cc: 'albbre...@wabash.edu' Subject: pricing Susan Thanks for your remarks. See our web-site www.docsfofeducation.com You can see we give different price for PPR and library classroom use, as a distributer I can't offer a lending only option to Colleges Universities for according to the legal info I got a face to face situation screening is allowed because it will be a legal copy, but possible to public library, but I still don't have enough info as how to price it and my primer mission is getting the filmmaker a good return. But I have a query for all, as some universities have started to stream films is it legal to state PPR without streaming rights PPR with streaming rights with $100 extra for streaming rights Cheers Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel And not just publics. I purchase films for an academic library, and the vast majority of our checkouts are for personal home (or dorm or frat...) use or for faculty showing a film in a face-to-face teaching situation. For any public screening, we make sure we've purchased PPR. So I disagree with the idea that there's no reason to license for lending only. That's most of what we do! Yes, for documentaries, I do often pay a higher price because PPR is that's all that's offered -- and since it's a fine work, I'm willing to pay it, hoping someone WILL come along and use it in a film series or special event screening... but unfortunately, the vast majority of the ones for which I've paid PPR never do get screened publicly. Thus I have been appreciative of Kino Lorber's offering 3 options: home use, institutional, and institutional with PPR. That way, if I suspect something will be likely to be screened, I can go ahead pay more for the with PPR option; but if I doubt it, I can get it for ~$100 less and have it ready for those lending only situations. This frees up more budget to buy more films. That's a long way of saying I agree with the notion of institutional without PPR and institutional with PPR options, priced appropriately. I believe it would help your sales. Susan Albrecht at Wabash College VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] price policy
Hi Gary We decided to use your suggestions on the wording of our pricing policy. See our web-Site: http://docsforeducation.com/index.php Pricing $175 for library classroom use. $250 for public screenings when no admission fee is charged. $500 for screenings with paying audiences. Shipping and handling fee is $6 - I believe that the main point in E-marketing is Trust, I trust my clients, the growing list of University College libraries that purchase our films more than one time means they trust me. I want to point out that any library that purchased Library use and later on wants to do public screening I will invoice them for $75 only. Hoping that solving the wording of our policy Berkeley other Universities will join our list of libraries Thanks for your help Shalom (Peace) Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:29 PM To: nahum laufer Subject: Re: price policy Thanks Nahum There may still be a problem with $250 library use and public performance rights when no admission fee is charged. I think what you want to say is simply public performance rights when no admission fee is charged (not library use)... If you do that, I think you'll be on the right track. Shalom! (and thanks for your openness to change!) gary Shalom Gary Thanks for your advice and information it is very helpful and I will change the wording of the price policy accordingly Six Years ago I was involved in making 2 films with my film-maker son Erez Laufer The Darien Dilemma Rafting to Bombay . I decided to self distribute these films, and I believe I was successful, other film-makers asked me if I could distribute their films. So at the ripe age of 76, I innovated Docs for Education to market quality award winning films with educational value especially for the university college library market. I'm the sole distributer of the films in our catalogue and none of them were chosen by a big firm for mass distribution. Docs for Education is not selling to the retail market. The wording for the prices I copied from another distributer and the price we set after a market survey. Our web-master will change the wording in the web site to: $175 for library use classroom screenings. $250 library use and public performance rights when no admission fee is charged. $500 Film Festivals/Series screening with paying audiences Invoice will be stated for library use and classroom screening rights $175 I hope that solves the university legal problem, And allows you to order our films Again a big thank you Best Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of elizabeth mcmahon Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:27 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies From a public library standpoint, would not library lending rights be analogous to the accepted term home use only? Or does you company not sell, or seek to sell, to public libraries? $175 is prohibitive at best, and is more in line for a title with the cost for PPR. Are you not interested in selling freely circulating copies that can be borrowed by the public to enjoy in the confines of their own home? More and more top drawer distributors recognize they are missing out on considerable sales by not doing so, and therefore, changing their pricing models. Elizabeth McMahon From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies Thanks There's still a problem, I'm afraid. Screening films/videos in a classroom in the service of regular curricula does not require separate rights in this country. The copyright laws of the US have a specific provision for allowing such use in face-to-face teaching. It would be more accurate (and honest) to simply charge two prices: One for use in classrooms and libraries, and one for public performance. As to your question: An opening screening (i.e. an extra-curricular screening) generally requires performance rights, even if a professor gives a spiel before the show, and even if no admittance fees are charged. Berkeley would be interested in joining your growing customer base, but not with the terms currently stated on your web site. Shalom, Gary Dear Gary Thanks for your answer and remarks. We knew about the rules of face to face screening in classrooms regardless of size We will remove the words (up to 50 students) from our pricing invoices. Anyway I am not around to count. I hope
Re: [Videolib] Midwest tape to enter digital market
Thanks Deg Arizona State University library has two of our films Badal The Darien Dilemma See our web-site http://docsforeducation.com/index.php for info on our films Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:09 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Midwest tape to enter digital market Will be curious to see the selection, especially indie foreign stuff from small distributors. Nice to see a library specialty company get in on this. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu wrote: FYI http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2012/03/media/midwest-tape-poised-to-en ter-digital-market-with-new-platform-called-hoopla/ deg farrelly ASU Libraries Arizona State University P.O. Box 871006 Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 480.965.1403 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] posting PPR info
Thanks Sarah Andrews For your information. I would like to get your and other librarians opinion on streaming As streaming Films is a new way to distribute films, and I would like to have our films also streamed and in the future also start streaming, as a distributer I would like to understand some points: 1) What do you mean by a password protected server, 2) Who gets the password and can use the server? Only Students faculty, or also Alumni, or anybody that asked your library for a password 3) Did the distributer that sold you public screening rights ask extra for a license with streaming rights? Best from http://docsforeducation.com/index.php Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Andrews, Sarah E Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:26 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] posting PPR info Our libraries put the public performance rights, streaming rights etc. in the 540 field. It is searchable in our catalog. Here is an example from Boyhood Shadows: Includes public performance rights, including video streaming rights on University of Iowa password protected server. IaU We also include a paper copy of the license agreement in the box whenever possible-helps the end users see what we have agreed to. At least some of our librarians promote this use to student groups-especially underfunded ones that need programming ideas. Sarah Andrews VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies
Hi Elizabeth Thanks for your remarks. Of course I distribute to Public libraries, but to best of my knowledge most libraries today have a screening room, nearly all also have film series/clubs, so no point in licensing only for lending only, yet when a small community library applied to me I gave a discount. Also a big county library with 20 branches wants say 10 copies one for each branch also will receive a discount. Please let me know in which library you serve. Best Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of elizabeth mcmahon Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:27 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies From a public library standpoint, would not library lending rights be analogous to the accepted term home use only? Or does you company not sell, or seek to sell, to public libraries? $175 is prohibitive at best, and is more in line for a title with the cost for PPR. Are you not interested in selling freely circulating copies that can be borrowed by the public to enjoy in the confines of their own home? More and more top drawer distributors recognize they are missing out on considerable sales by not doing so, and therefore, changing their pricing models. Elizabeth McMahon From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies Thanks There's still a problem, I'm afraid. Screening films/videos in a classroom in the service of regular curricula does not require separate rights in this country. The copyright laws of the US have a specific provision for allowing such use in face-to-face teaching. It would be more accurate (and honest) to simply charge two prices: One for use in classrooms and libraries, and one for public performance. As to your question: An opening screening (i.e. an extra-curricular screening) generally requires performance rights, even if a professor gives a spiel before the show, and even if no admittance fees are charged. Berkeley would be interested in joining your growing customer base, but not with the terms currently stated on your web site. Shalom, Gary Dear Gary Thanks for your answer and remarks. We knew about the rules of face to face screening in classrooms regardless of size We will remove the words (up to 50 students) from our pricing invoices. Anyway I am not around to count. I hope that will solve the legal problem Most university libraries purchased classroom screening rights, yet some preferred to buy also Public screening rights. Yet I have a question many universities have a film series open to all students faculty and if a professor gives a short explanation before the screening is that a face to face screening? I hope Berkeley will join our growing list of customers Shalom (Peace) Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel - Original Message- From: m...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:m...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 6:05 PM To: lauf...@netvision.net.il Cc: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Your pricing policies Hello Thanks for this link; your catalog has some interesting-sounding stuff in it. I have some fairly serious concerns about the wording of your pricing policy, however. US copyright law allows the screening of whole films/videos in face-to-face classroom teaching, REGARDLESS of the size of the class. Your pricing schedule wording ignores this fact. I understand the differential pricing for public performance rights, but your wording for the $175 library lending rights is misleading and not legally supportable, unless you consider this a contract stipulation, in which case I'd strongly urge my library colleagues not to do business with your firm. Let me know if you have questions, or if there are clarifications I should know about. Gary Handman $175 for library lending rights. Includes screenings rights in classrooms (up to 50 students). $250 library lending rights and public performance rights for screening when no admission fee is charged. (subject) Comments and Suggestion Form (from-name) Library Web user (from-email) someb...@library.berkeley.edu (urlRef) http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/vrtlists.html (comments) -- - Dear Gary I have written before to you about our project Docs for Education I am waiting that Berekeley Library will join other prestigius universities and purchase our films See www.docsforeducation.com http://www.docsforeducation.com/ http://www.docsforeducation.com/ I want to have our film list on your video listing. thanks Nahum Laufer
[Videolib] price policy
Shalom Gary Thanks for your advice and information it is very helpful and I will change the wording of the price policy accordingly Six Years ago I was involved in making 2 films with my film-maker son Erez Laufer The Darien Dilemma Rafting to Bombay . I decided to self distribute these films, and I believe I was successful, other film-makers asked me if I could distribute their films. So at the ripe age of 76, I innovated Docs for Education to market quality award winning films with educational value especially for the university college library market. I'm the sole distributer of the films in our catalogue and none of them were chosen by a big firm for mass distribution. Docs for Education is not selling to the retail market. The wording for the prices I copied from another distributer and the price we set after a market survey. Our web-master will change the wording in the web site to: $175 for library use classroom screenings. $250 library use and public performance rights when no admission fee is charged. $500 Film Festivals/Series screening with paying audiences Invoice will be stated for library use and classroom screening rights $175 I hope that solves the university legal problem, And allows you to order our films Again a big thank you Best Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of elizabeth mcmahon Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:27 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies From a public library standpoint, would not library lending rights be analogous to the accepted term home use only? Or does you company not sell, or seek to sell, to public libraries? $175 is prohibitive at best, and is more in line for a title with the cost for PPR. Are you not interested in selling freely circulating copies that can be borrowed by the public to enjoy in the confines of their own home? More and more top drawer distributors recognize they are missing out on considerable sales by not doing so, and therefore, changing their pricing models. Elizabeth McMahon From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] re Your pricing policies Thanks There's still a problem, I'm afraid. Screening films/videos in a classroom in the service of regular curricula does not require separate rights in this country. The copyright laws of the US have a specific provision for allowing such use in face-to-face teaching. It would be more accurate (and honest) to simply charge two prices: One for use in classrooms and libraries, and one for public performance. As to your question: An opening screening (i.e. an extra-curricular screening) generally requires performance rights, even if a professor gives a spiel before the show, and even if no admittance fees are charged. Berkeley would be interested in joining your growing customer base, but not with the terms currently stated on your web site. Shalom, Gary Dear Gary Thanks for your answer and remarks. We knew about the rules of face to face screening in classrooms regardless of size We will remove the words (up to 50 students) from our pricing invoices. Anyway I am not around to count. I hope that will solve the legal problem Most university libraries purchased classroom screening rights, yet some preferred to buy also Public screening rights. Yet I have a question many universities have a film series open to all students faculty and if a professor gives a short explanation before the screening is that a face to face screening? I hope Berkeley will join our growing list of customers Shalom (Peace) Nahum Laufer Sales Docs for Education Erez Laufer Films Holland st 10 Afulla 18371 Israel - Original Message- From: m...@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:m...@library.berkeley.edu] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 6:05 PM To: lauf...@netvision.net.il Cc: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Your pricing policies Hello Thanks for this link; your catalog has some interesting-sounding stuff in it. I have some fairly serious concerns about the wording of your pricing policy, however. US copyright law allows the screening of whole films/videos in face-to-face classroom teaching, REGARDLESS of the size of the class. Your pricing schedule wording ignores this fact. I understand the differential pricing for public performance rights, but your wording for the $175 library lending rights is misleading and not legally supportable, unless you consider this a contract stipulation, in which case I'd strongly urge my library colleagues not to do business with your firm. Let me know if you have questions, or if there are clarifications I should know about. Gary Handman
