Re: [Videolib] No DVD if its Streaming policy

2013-01-15 Thread Bergman, Barbara J
I'm having a What the...? reaction to this. I'm all for saving money, but if 
the only consideration is is it available online for free? this is incredibly 
shortsighted.
Sometimes you only need onetime access so these options might be just fine, but 
what about films that will be used for years?

Hulu changes content constantly and includes advertising. Netflix streaming and 
Amazon instant video offerings also change frequently nor are they free.
Many things get posted to YouTube that aren't supposed to be there. Sure you 
can watch that documentary on Snagfilms - if you don't mind a lot of 
advertising.
There is some good material on stable platforms (PBS, Annenberg, etc) but those 
can change too.

Looking at whether to purchase a streaming license rather than the DVD is 
important, but licensed streaming is very different than can we find it on 
YouTube?

Comparing to journal databases -- ERIC documents are (were) freely available 
from http://eric.ed.gov, but we pay for the added value of the indexing from 
EBSCO and ProQuest.

p.s. Since you're in Charleston, plan to attend the National Media Market when 
it's held there in November. http://www.nmm.net/

Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
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[Videolib] No DVD if its Streaming policy

2013-01-11 Thread Seay, Jared Alexander
Library Video Friends,

We are undergoing the effects of the VHS apocalypse in which our IT department 
will be removing all VHS players from all classrooms by the end of this spring. 
 Though (at least a present) our library is generally keeping our VHS titles 
and our small band of VHS/DVD combo players, they will no longer be supported 
by the campus.  So there is that.  Woe is me.

However, I have another question to the assembled library video elite.  There 
is a growing administrative movement or thought or feeling (I don't want to 
sound conspiratorial - because it is not an evil conspiracy) that if we have 
access to a video title as streaming source, then we should not purchase that 
title in DVD.  Seems to me like it is being thought as analogous to the print 
vs. online journal article thing, and for the same reasons.  Why should we have 
the title in two places and pay for both or even pay for none when one is 
free?

In a recent example, the decision was made to not purchase a title because it 
was available in several other streaming venues (YouTube, hula, etc.), even 
though it was NOT part of our library streaming video services.  I have mixed 
feelings about this, and I don't think it is black and white.

So, I just want to know, does anyone out there have such a policy or philosophy 
that says we don't buy DVD (generally) if the title is available as a 
streaming title?  How are you folks handling the encroaching streaming vs. DVD 
thing?

Thanks.

Jared


PS: This is NOT an official policy we have officially adopted.  However, it is 
a growing underground movement.


Jared Alexander Seay
Reference Librarian
Head, Media Collections
Addlestone Library
College of Charleston
Charleston SC 29424

Main Office:   843-953-1428   
blogs.cofc.edu/seayj/http://blogs.cofc.edu/seayj/
Media Collections: 843-953-8040   blogs.cofc.edu/media 
collectionshttp://blogs.cofc.edu/mediacollections/

Addlestone Report:
blogs.cofc.edu/addlestonereporthttp://blogs.cofc.edu/addlestonereport/
Reference Services:  blogs.cofc.edu/refbloghttp://blogs.cofc.edu/refblog/






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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] No DVD if its Streaming policy

2013-01-11 Thread Michael Phillips
Hello Jared,

With regard to YouTube, you need to keep in mind that a video posted there 
could be removed at any time, which could be inconvenient if a class needs to 
view the video.  We only refer our patrons to YouTube if we cannot locate a 
copy of a video for purchase, and then we make no promises about the legality 
or content of the video's posting.

When it comes to a video available online, I would recommend trying to stay 
with videos that may be available for years, such as videos made available by 
the publisher.  An example would be PBS's posting of its Frontline episodes 
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/).

Michael S. Phillips
Library Associate I
Monographic Acquisitions Division
Texas AM University
acqmo...@library.tamu.edumailto:acqmo...@library.tamu.edu
5000 TAMU | College Station, TX 77843-5000
Tel. 979.845.1343 ext. 151 | Fax. 979.845.5310
http://library.tamu.edu


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Subject: [Videolib] No DVD if its Streaming policy

Library Video Friends,

We are undergoing the effects of the VHS apocalypse in which our IT department 
will be removing all VHS players from all classrooms by the end of this spring. 
 Though (at least a present) our library is generally keeping our VHS titles 
and our small band of VHS/DVD combo players, they will no longer be supported 
by the campus.  So there is that.  Woe is me.

However, I have another question to the assembled library video elite.  There 
is a growing administrative movement or thought or feeling (I don't want to 
sound conspiratorial - because it is not an evil conspiracy) that if we have 
access to a video title as streaming source, then we should not purchase that 
title in DVD.  Seems to me like it is being thought as analogous to the print 
vs. online journal article thing, and for the same reasons.  Why should we have 
the title in two places and pay for both or even pay for none when one is 
free?

In a recent example, the decision was made to not purchase a title because it 
was available in several other streaming venues (YouTube, hula, etc.), even 
though it was NOT part of our library streaming video services.  I have mixed 
feelings about this, and I don't think it is black and white.

So, I just want to know, does anyone out there have such a policy or philosophy 
that says we don't buy DVD (generally) if the title is available as a 
streaming title?  How are you folks handling the encroaching streaming vs. DVD 
thing?

Thanks.

Jared


PS: This is NOT an official policy we have officially adopted.  However, it is 
a growing underground movement.


Jared Alexander Seay
Reference Librarian
Head, Media Collections
Addlestone Library
College of Charleston
Charleston SC 29424

Main Office:   843-953-1428   
blogs.cofc.edu/seayj/http://blogs.cofc.edu/seayj/
Media Collections: 843-953-8040   blogs.cofc.edu/media 
collectionshttp://blogs.cofc.edu/mediacollections/

Addlestone Report:
blogs.cofc.edu/addlestonereporthttp://blogs.cofc.edu/addlestonereport/
Reference Services:  blogs.cofc.edu/refbloghttp://blogs.cofc.edu/refblog/






VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.