Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Hi Kim, I'd contact the producers of the program and ask they'd be willing to provide you with a copy of the program. It's also entirely possible that their programs are archived on their website. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Kim, To save yourself unnecessary stress, contact the producers of the national morning show to request a copy of the segment that features your institution. One of three things should result: a) they completely ignore you; b) they ask you to buy the copy; or c) they gladly send you a complimentary copy and may ask you to pay shipping. First try using the station's online contact us form. Then search for a name and/or phone number you can call to follow up in case the contact form does not prompt someone to contact you. I would go ahead and record the show following the Kastenmeier guidelines, onerous as they are, and let your administrator know that regardless whether the producers of the show do or don't sell/give you a copy, that you cannot keep the off-air recording longer than the specified time. To maintain control of the off-air version, record the program on a blank library disc, not one provided by the requestor. S/he may not like your answer, but I've found it serves me better to empathize with a requestor's frustration than to apologize for doing my job. Good luck, Gail Gail B. Fedak Director, Media Resources Middle Tennessee State University Murfreesboro, TN 37132 Phone 615-898-2899 Fax 615-898-2530 email gfe...@mtsu.edu Original message Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:03:33 -0500 From: Stanton, Kim kim.stan...@unt.edu Subject: [Videolib] Off air record question To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Hi all, I’ve had a request from an administrator to record a short portion of a two hour national morning talk show. Our university participated in a study that is going to be reported on during a 10 minute segment of the show. The administrator doesn’t have a specific use in mind for it, she just thinks it would be beneficial to have as a record. So, does this fall under Kastenmeier? I always had the impression this guideline covered more in class teaching related uses, plus the 10day/45 day rules don’t help me out much here. Is there a legally acceptable way for the library to record a segment of this program and keep it indefinitely? Possibly even restricted to in-house use? Thanks, Kim Kim Stanton Head, Media Library University of North Texas kim.stan...@unt.edu P: (940) 565-4832 F: (940) 369-7396 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Hi Kim, I'll be the outlier and suggest that it wouldn't be death defying to record 10 minutes out of a 2 hour long news program and put a copy in your collection, especially if it was treated as an archival, in-library-use item. Vanderbilt (http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/) has been recording TV news since 1968 and they still exist, despite a failed lawsuit by CBS. In the Library of Congress' A Report on the Current State of American Television and Video Preservation (http://www.loc.gov/film/tvstudy.html), there's the following: in view of the unconscionable practice of recycling news tapes, local archives should be encouraged to set up off-air taping programs of news programs as permitted under the Copyright Act of 1976. Since late 2010 we have been recording evening news programming from Seattle's major network affiliates and making the recordings--commercials, warts and all--available to researchers within our library only. I know that some may suggest that nightly news programming is hard news, and that the news show you are interested in may be soft news, but after watching some of our local news I'm wondering if there's much of distinction anymore. On the topic of recording copyrighted material, I would be interested to hear feedback from videolibers on this site: http://criticalcommons.org John _ John Vallier Head, Distributed Media UW Libraries Media Center vall...@uw.edu 206-616-1210 http://lib.washington.edu/media http://faculty.washington.edu/vallier VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Off air record question
Hi all, I've had a request from an administrator to record a short portion of a two hour national morning talk show. Our university participated in a study that is going to be reported on during a 10 minute segment of the show. The administrator doesn't have a specific use in mind for it, she just thinks it would be beneficial to have as a record. So, does this fall under Kastenmeier? I always had the impression this guideline covered more in class teaching related uses, plus the 10day/45 day rules don't help me out much here. Is there a legally acceptable way for the library to record a segment of this program and keep it indefinitely? Possibly even restricted to in-house use? Thanks, Kim Kim Stanton Head, Media Library University of North Texas kim.stan...@unt.edu P: (940) 565-4832 F: (940) 369-7396 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Nope The instructor can off-air tape and use in class (Kastenmeier is stupidly restrictive...45 days, I think, but remember, these are guidelines, not law)...but keeping the thing around for the long-haul (in a library collection, say) is probably skating on thin ice. gary handman Hi all, I've had a request from an administrator to record a short portion of a two hour national morning talk show. Our university participated in a study that is going to be reported on during a 10 minute segment of the show. The administrator doesn't have a specific use in mind for it, she just thinks it would be beneficial to have as a record. So, does this fall under Kastenmeier? I always had the impression this guideline covered more in class teaching related uses, plus the 10day/45 day rules don't help me out much here. Is there a legally acceptable way for the library to record a segment of this program and keep it indefinitely? Possibly even restricted to in-house use? Thanks, Kim Kim Stanton Head, Media Library University of North Texas kim.stan...@unt.edu P: (940) 565-4832 F: (940) 369-7396 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Hi- You cannot off-air record and retain indefinitely. Contact the talk show and purchase it if they are selling it. That way it can be added to the collection legitimately or retained in archives. Perhaps they would even sell you a digital copy. Hopefully they will sell it cheaply. Or tell them how much you love their show and they may even give you just the clip you want. Debra Mandel Head, Digital Media Deign Studio Northeastern University Libraries Boston, MA 02115 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Stanton, Kim [kim.stan...@unt.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:03 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Off air record question Hi all, I’ve had a request from an administrator to record a short portion of a two hour national morning talk show. Our university participated in a study that is going to be reported on during a 10 minute segment of the show. The administrator doesn’t have a specific use in mind for it, she just thinks it would be beneficial to have as a record. So, does this fall under Kastenmeier? I always had the impression this guideline covered more in class teaching related uses, plus the 10day/45 day rules don’t help me out much here. Is there a legally acceptable way for the library to record a segment of this program and keep it indefinitely? Possibly even restricted to in-house use? Thanks, Kim Kim Stanton Head, Media Library University of North Texas kim.stan...@unt.edu P: (940) 565-4832 F: (940) 369-7396 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
