Re: [Videolib] who needs the rights?
Non problema magna est gary handman Oops, make that /denarius/, but who's counting? Oh, God, I'm so embarrassed, Commander Yates (high school Latin teacher) is rolling in his grave. On 2/23/2011 10:23 PM, Randal Baier wrote: Well, in my very humble opinion, and mind you, I am spouting off without my usual thoughtful and ageless reflection. :) The VHS is simply a vessel. It holds the creation. It doesn't matter where you get it. If the student has negotiated some kind of copy permission and she can get a tape somewhere in order to get it to her new vessel, then that's just fine. It's not the library's problem. She is paying that $300 (or whatever price she is negotiating for) for her copy/rights/whatever. The library has paid their $300. She pay hers. The tape is just a transfer -- shared body. There is something strangely biblical in this. I'm not a biblical guy, but Jesus sends Peter to get money from the fish's mouth, then turns to the tax collector and gives him his gold drachma (or tribute penny, /denarii /or /tetradrchm /or whatever it was called). I say, render unto Caesar and don't worry so much. http://www.wga.hu/tours/brancacc/tribute.jpg Randal Baier On 2/23/2011 5:31 PM, jwoo wrote: Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] who needs the rights?
Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] who needs the rights?
Well, in my very humble opinion, and mind you, I am spouting off without my usual thoughtful and ageless reflection. :) The VHS is simply a vessel. It holds the creation. It doesn't matter where you get it. If the student has negotiated some kind of copy permission and she can get a tape somewhere in order to get it to her new vessel, then that's just fine. It's not the library's problem. She is paying that $300 (or whatever price she is negotiating for) for her copy/rights/whatever. The library has paid their $300. She pay hers. The tape is just a transfer -- shared body. There is something strangely biblical in this. I'm not a biblical guy, but Jesus sends Peter to get money from the fish's mouth, then turns to the tax collector and gives him his gold drachma (or tribute penny, /denarii /or /tetradrchm /or whatever it was called). I say, render unto Caesar and don't worry so much. http://www.wga.hu/tours/brancacc/tribute.jpg Randal Baier On 2/23/2011 5:31 PM, jwoo wrote: Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] who needs the rights?
Oops, make that /denarius/, but who's counting? Oh, God, I'm so embarrassed, Commander Yates (high school Latin teacher) is rolling in his grave. On 2/23/2011 10:23 PM, Randal Baier wrote: Well, in my very humble opinion, and mind you, I am spouting off without my usual thoughtful and ageless reflection. :) The VHS is simply a vessel. It holds the creation. It doesn't matter where you get it. If the student has negotiated some kind of copy permission and she can get a tape somewhere in order to get it to her new vessel, then that's just fine. It's not the library's problem. She is paying that $300 (or whatever price she is negotiating for) for her copy/rights/whatever. The library has paid their $300. She pay hers. The tape is just a transfer -- shared body. There is something strangely biblical in this. I'm not a biblical guy, but Jesus sends Peter to get money from the fish's mouth, then turns to the tax collector and gives him his gold drachma (or tribute penny, /denarii /or /tetradrchm /or whatever it was called). I say, render unto Caesar and don't worry so much. http://www.wga.hu/tours/brancacc/tribute.jpg Randal Baier On 2/23/2011 5:31 PM, jwoo wrote: Here's a scenario that I don't think we've run across before: The library purchased a VHS video art tape from Electronic Arts Intermix with the usual limited PPR. A student wants to exhibit the piece continuously as part of her MFA thesis show, and because an exhibition copy with rights costs $900, the student is negotiating with EAI for a lower price and permission to make a DVD copy of the library's VHS tape. Question: Who needs the permission to make a copy? The student or the library? Does it make a difference if the copy is made in-house or outsourced? The student is under the assumption that she can check out the $300 tape from the library and bring it to a video transfer shop. If permission to copy was not granted to the library, would the library be infringing for allowing the student to copy its copy? Thanks, Janice Woo, Director of Libraries California College of the Arts 5212 Broadway Oakland CA 94618 510.594.3660 || libraries.cca.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
