Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law in defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk! Gary Handman List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
Actually I am not sure I see a big difference though the use of the phrase educational public performance rights seems to be used instead of face to face exemption . However in this case the rights seem to cover a wide variety of regular outside the classroom PPR showings. The only thing I can think of is that they are trying to make sure you don't illegally stream it. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote: List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law. But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public performance rights. Not one to worry about. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
I don't know-- it lists a lot of institutions but it insists that this has to be a classroom setting for matriculated students in the institution. Not that many galleries or community centers matriculate students or show films in a classroom setting. ??? Judy -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:30 AM To: kketcha...@jcu.edu; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law in defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk! Gary Handman List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
Darn. Missed the fine print I guess. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote: I don't know-- it lists a lot of institutions but it insists that this has to be a classroom setting for matriculated students in the institution. Not that many galleries or community centers matriculate students or show films in a classroom setting. ??? Judy -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:30 AM To: kketcha...@jcu.edu; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law in defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk! Gary Handman List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction. Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it not? Thanks again, Karen Original message Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 + From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law. But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public performance rights. Not one to worry about. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
It would be legally sufficient, but as we have discussed the seller can pretty much set their own terms by contractIF they are the only source of the film. I would say the vast majority of educational film distributors whose films are not sold retail or through third parties require you to purchase PPR rights even if you only plan to use the title in the classroom. A lot depends on the exact wording in terms of if you can go around this, but again a seller can set conditions of sale beyond what copyright permits. I have no idea the nature of the title involved here, but realistically most educational films have a very limited audience so companies could not survive selling my infamous ( and non existent) documentary on a lesbian basket weaving cooperative in Bolivia at $29.95 and hoping lots of folks would buy it. However this kind of sale can only work if the rights holder controls all the sales and the title does not go through 3rd parties. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote: It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction. Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it not? Thanks again, Karen Original message Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 + From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law. But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public performance rights. Not one to worry about. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
Actually this terminology is great for those of us working under Canadian copyright law. We do use, educational public performance wording when we request that permission from U.S. vendors. Perhaps that's where this vendor is coming from... They are sick and tired of having us ask for the permission that US Copyright already allows. Susan Karen Ketchaver wrote: List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Susan Weber, Librarian Langara College, 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2Z6 Tel. 604-323-5533 email: swe...@langara.bc.ca VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
I doubt that. The question on a Canadian PPR rights would really be one of if Canada itself is covered, since the PPR rights are already included in the listing. Canadian PPR is actually more limiting than US. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Susan Weber swe...@langara.bc.ca wrote: Actually this terminology is great for those of us working under Canadian copyright law. We do use, educational public performance wording when we request that permission from U.S. vendors. Perhaps that's where this vendor is coming from... They are sick and tired of having us ask for the permission that US Copyright already allows. Susan Karen Ketchaver wrote: List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Susan Weber, Librarian Langara College, 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2Z6 Tel. 604-323-5533 email: swe...@langara.bc.ca VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
Dear Karen, Actually it would not be sufficient. To use in a classroom setting you would need to purchase PPR rights. Otherwise it is not legal, and is unfair to the writers directors and all of those who work hard to create content. Not unlike downloading movies or for that matter music. It's just wrong especially for an educational institution. Just my two cents, Anthony On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote: It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction. Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it not? Thanks again, Karen Original message Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 + From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law. But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public performance rights. Not one to worry about. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR List members, I noted this today on a vendor website: Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context. This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction). I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me. Thanks, Karen G. Ketchaver Acquisitions Unit Leader Grasselli Library John Carroll University 20700 North Park Blvd. University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581 U.S.A. (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.