Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread ghandman
The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law
in defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk!

Gary Handman



 List members,

 I noted this today on a vendor website:

 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas,
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational
 context.

 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of
 a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place
 devoted to instruction).

 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

 Thanks,

 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax




 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
 as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Jessica Rosner
Actually I am not sure I see a big difference though the use of the phrase
educational public performance rights seems to be used instead of face to
face exemption . However in this case the rights seem to cover a wide
variety of regular outside the classroom PPR showings. The only thing I can
think of is that they are trying to make sure you don't illegally stream it.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote:

 List members,

 I noted this today on a vendor website:

 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas,
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.

 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a
 nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted
 to instruction).

 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

 Thanks,

 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax




 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.




-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Bergman, Barbara J
Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom 
instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law.
But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public 
performance rights.
Not one to worry about.

Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR

List members,

I noted this today on a vendor website:

Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A CLASSROOM 
SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit institution  - 
universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, community centers, 
or educational institutions, in an educational context.

This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states 
regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by 
instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a 
nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to 
instruction).

I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational 
public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

Thanks,

Karen G. Ketchaver
Acquisitions Unit Leader
Grasselli Library
John Carroll University
20700 North Park Blvd.
University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
U.S.A.
(216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax  




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
I don't know-- it lists a lot of institutions but it insists that this has to 
be a classroom setting for matriculated students in the institution. Not that 
many galleries or community centers matriculate students or show films in a 
classroom setting.

???

Judy

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:30 AM
To: kketcha...@jcu.edu; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law in 
defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk!

Gary Handman



 List members,

 I noted this today on a vendor website:

 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A 
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit 
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, 
 microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an 
 educational context.

 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states 
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work 
 by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching 
 activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or 
 similar place devoted to instruction).

 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but 
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

 Thanks,

 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax




 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of 
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, 
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current 
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It 
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for 
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between 
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Jessica Rosner
Darn. Missed the fine print I guess.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote:

 I don't know-- it lists a lot of institutions but it insists that this has
 to be a classroom setting for matriculated students in the institution. Not
 that many galleries or community centers matriculate students or show films
 in a classroom setting.

 ???

 Judy

 -Original Message-
 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:30 AM
 To: kketcha...@jcu.edu; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

 The vendor's statement is considerably more liberal than the copyright law
 in defining classroom...I wouldn't squawk!

 Gary Handman



  List members,
 
  I noted this today on a vendor website:
 
  Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
  CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
  institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries,
  microcinemas, community centers, or educational institutions, in an
  educational context.
 
  This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
  regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work
  by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching
  activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or
  similar place devoted to instruction).
 
  I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
  educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Karen G. Ketchaver
  Acquisitions Unit Leader
  Grasselli Library
  John Carroll University
  20700 North Park Blvd.
  University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
  U.S.A.
  (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax
 
 
 
 
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
  acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
  and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
  is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
  video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
  libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
 


 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.




-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Karen Ketchaver
It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR 
version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction. 
Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it 
not? 

Thanks again,

Karen

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 +
From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu  
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR  
To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu

Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for classroom 
instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law.
But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public 
performance rights.
Not one to worry about.

Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR

List members,

I noted this today on a vendor website:

Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A 
CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit 
institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, 
community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.

This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states 
regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by 
instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a 
nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to 
instruction).

I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational 
public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

Thanks,

Karen G. Ketchaver
Acquisitions Unit Leader
Grasselli Library
John Carroll University
20700 North Park Blvd.
University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
U.S.A.
(216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax  




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Jessica Rosner
It would be legally sufficient, but as we have discussed the seller can
pretty much set their own terms by contractIF they are the only source of
the film. I would say the vast majority of educational film distributors
whose films are not sold retail or through third parties require you to
purchase PPR rights even if you only plan to use the title in the classroom.
A lot depends on the exact wording in terms of if you can go around this,
but again a seller can set conditions of sale beyond what copyright permits.

I have no idea the nature of the title involved here, but realistically most
educational films have a very limited audience so companies could not
survive selling my infamous ( and non existent) documentary on a lesbian
basket weaving cooperative in Bolivia at $29.95 and hoping lots of folks
would buy it. However this kind of sale can only work if the rights holder
controls all the sales and the title does not go through 3rd parties.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote:

 It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR
 version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction.
 Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it
 not?

 Thanks again,

 Karen

  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 +
 From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
 To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 
 Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for
 classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law.
 But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public
 performance rights.
 Not one to worry about.
 
 Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota
 State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR
 
 List members,
 
 I noted this today on a vendor website:
 
 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas,
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.
 
 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a
 nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted
 to instruction).
 
 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax
 
 
 
 
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.
 
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.




-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve

Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Susan Weber
Actually this terminology is great for those of us working under 
Canadian copyright law.
We do use, educational public performance wording when we request that 
permission from
U.S. vendors. Perhaps that's where this vendor is coming from...
They are sick and tired of having us ask for the permission that US 
Copyright already allows.

Susan

Karen Ketchaver wrote:
 List members,

 I noted this today on a vendor website:

 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A 
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit 
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas, 
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.

 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states 
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by 
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a 
 nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to 
 instruction).

 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but educational 
 public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.

 Thanks,

 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax  




 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
 distributors.
   

-- 
Susan Weber, Librarian
Langara College, 
100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C.  V5Y 2Z6
Tel. 604-323-5533  email: swe...@langara.bc.ca



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread Jessica Rosner
I doubt that. The question on a Canadian PPR rights would really be one of
if Canada itself is covered, since the PPR rights are already included in
the listing. Canadian PPR is actually more limiting than US.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Susan Weber swe...@langara.bc.ca wrote:

 Actually this terminology is great for those of us working under
 Canadian copyright law.
 We do use, educational public performance wording when we request that
 permission from
 U.S. vendors. Perhaps that's where this vendor is coming from...
 They are sick and tired of having us ask for the permission that US
 Copyright already allows.

 Susan

 Karen Ketchaver wrote:
  List members,
 
  I noted this today on a vendor website:
 
  Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas,
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.
 
  This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a
 nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted
 to instruction).
 
  I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Karen G. Ketchaver
  Acquisitions Unit Leader
  Grasselli Library
  John Carroll University
  20700 North Park Blvd.
  University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
  U.S.A.
  (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax
 
 
 
 
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.
 

 --
 Susan Weber, Librarian
 Langara College,
 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, B.C.  V5Y 2Z6
 Tel. 604-323-5533  email: swe...@langara.bc.ca



 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.




-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR

2011-02-03 Thread tony alosi
Dear Karen,

Actually it would not be sufficient. To use in a classroom setting you would
need to purchase PPR rights. Otherwise it is not legal, and is unfair to the
writers directors and all of those who work hard to create content.
Not unlike downloading movies or for that matter music. It's just wrong
especially for an educational institution.
Just my two cents,
Anthony

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Karen Ketchaver kketcha...@jcu.edu wrote:

 It seems to me that the vendor is directing me to buy the educational PPR
 version even if the film is only to be used for classroom instruction.
 Purchasing the regular retail version would be sufficient for that, would it
 not?

 Thanks again,

 Karen

  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:48:36 +
 From: Bergman, Barbara J barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Educational PPR
 To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 
 Interesting. They're granting you rights that we already have for
 classroom instruction under section 110 of the Copyright Law.
 But by adding in other venues, it's practically giving you full public
 performance rights.
 Not one to worry about.
 
 Barb Bergman | Media Services  Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota
 State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Ketchaver
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:41 AM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: [Videolib] Educational PPR
 
 List members,
 
 I noted this today on a vendor website:
 
 Educational Public Performance Rights (PPR) allow for screening IN A
 CLASSROOM SETTING ONLY for matriculated students in any not-for-profit
 institution  - universities, museums, galleries, libraries, microcinemas,
 community centers, or educational institutions, in an educational context.
 
 This assertion seems to contradict what U.S. Copyright Title 17 states
 regarding library and classroom use (performance or display of work by
 instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a
 nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted
 to instruction).
 
 I know that this topic has been well discussed on the list, but
 educational public performance rights was a new wrinkle for me.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Karen G. Ketchaver
 Acquisitions Unit Leader
 Grasselli Library
 John Carroll University
 20700 North Park Blvd.
 University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
 U.S.A.
 (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax
 
 
 
 
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 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.