Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Jessica Rosner
No rights holder is looking for 16mm prints, they have been throwing them
out for years ( even if many did not make to the dumpster) I actually have
a number of friends who are "looking" and actively collect them but alas
rights are whole different issue. In this case you actually know who the
rights holder is which is better than many. For the record if you actually
end up dealing with Studio Canal or any major rights holder I would
actually LIE about the format. Tell them you want rights to show the DVD,
mentioning prints only upsets them and I am not kidding. It is barely
concealed secret among venues that program prints that if the rights holder
does not have a print  and you can find one , just ask for for the
exhibition rights for DVD. They are being paid for the rights to their film.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:

> Oh well. These things have been sitting unattended in basements since
> the late 80s / early 90s. No documentation at this point about leases
> or even where they came from (studio? distributor? private
> collector?). Nobody's looking for them (besides me), I can tell you
> that.
>
> On 6/8/12, elizabeth mcmahon  wrote:
> > Yes, Jessica, educational, documentary, animated, childrens and
> > independently produced features are typically life of print, as acquired
> for
> > public libraries. Studio feature length films, at least in my experience,
> > such as "Tales Of Hoffman" would qualify, are almost without exception
> > leased, usually 5 years. And you better hold on to that paper work (as
> well
> > as the paperwork for life of print titles), or else you risk dereliction
> of
> > duty. David, you never own something that you lease.
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> > From: Jessica Rosner 
> >>To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> >>Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 4:05 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal
> >>
> >>
> >>I am confused. Did your library itself buy a print with life of print
> >> lease? They have not been all that common for a long time. Most studio
> >> titles were sold for a limited number of years at which time they needed
> >> to be renewed. In general it is not likely
> >>that studio feature films had life of print leases, not sure about
> >> educational titles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no
> >> meaningful way to prove it.
> >>>On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching "
> you
> >>> are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show.
> >>>>I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be
> >>>> sending it to someone in France.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and
> >>>> try to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow
> and
> >>>> Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I
> >>>> suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they
> might
> >>>> be guilted into agreeing
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak <
> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we
> >>>> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone.
> >>>> Screen it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another
> >>>> library's collection and they had leases on them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner  >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of
> print
> >>>>> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
> >>>>>>"regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell
> >>>>>> film to track down and screen. However if
> >>>>>>Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put
> >>>>>> my feelers out but my frie

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Dvorchak
Oh well. These things have been sitting unattended in basements since
the late 80s / early 90s. No documentation at this point about leases
or even where they came from (studio? distributor? private
collector?). Nobody's looking for them (besides me), I can tell you
that.

On 6/8/12, elizabeth mcmahon  wrote:
> Yes, Jessica, educational, documentary, animated, childrens and
> independently produced features are typically life of print, as acquired for
> public libraries. Studio feature length films, at least in my experience,
> such as "Tales Of Hoffman" would qualify, are almost without exception
> leased, usually 5 years. And you better hold on to that paper work (as well
> as the paperwork for life of print titles), or else you risk dereliction of
> duty. David, you never own something that you lease.
>
>
> Elizabeth
>
> From: Jessica Rosner 
>>To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>>Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 4:05 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal
>>
>>
>>I am confused. Did your library itself buy a print with life of print
>> lease? They have not been all that common for a long time. Most studio
>> titles were sold for a limited number of years at which time they needed
>> to be renewed. In general it is not likely
>>that studio feature films had life of print leases, not sure about
>> educational titles.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no
>> meaningful way to prove it.
>>>On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>>>
>>>The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching " you
>>> are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show.
>>>>I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be
>>>> sending it to someone in France.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and
>>>> try to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and
>>>> Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I
>>>> suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might
>>>> be guilted into agreeing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we
>>>> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone.
>>>> Screen it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another
>>>> library's collection and they had leases on them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
>>>>> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
>>>>>>"regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell
>>>>>> film to track down and screen. However if
>>>>>>Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put
>>>>>> my feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out
>>>>>> of town at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening
>>>>>> in 2004, there must be some hope.
>>>>>>>My print crushes any DVD version out there!
>>>>>>>On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner" 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
>>>>>>> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
>>>>>>>>Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you
>>>>>>>> can't afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
>>>>>>>>to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of
>>>>>>>> my customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of
>>>>>>>> 16mm print being licensed. That said I wi

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
Yes, Jessica, educational, documentary, animated, childrens and independently 
produced features are typically life of print, as acquired for public 
libraries. Studio feature length films, at least in my experience, such as 
"Tales Of Hoffman" would qualify, are almost without exception leased, usually 
5 years. And you better hold on to that paper work (as well as the paperwork 
for life of print titles), or else you risk dereliction of duty. David, you 
never own something that you lease.


Elizabeth

From: Jessica Rosner 
>To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
>Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 4:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal
>
>
>I am confused. Did your library itself buy a print with life of print lease? 
>They have not been all that common for a long time. Most studio titles were 
>sold for a limited number of years at which time they needed to be renewed. In 
>general it is not likely 
>that studio feature films had life of print leases, not sure about educational 
>titles.
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dave Dvorchak  wrote:
>
>How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no 
>meaningful way to prove it.
>>On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>>
>>The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching " you 
>>are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show. 
>>>I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be sending 
>>>it to someone in France.
>>>
>>>
>>>One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and try 
>>>to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and 
>>>Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I 
>>>suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might be 
>>>guilted into agreeing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we bought 
>>>these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. Screen it and 
>>>hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another library's 
>>>collection and they had leases on them? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner  
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print 
>>>>lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
>>>>>"regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell film 
>>>>>to track down and screen. However if
>>>>>Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put my 
>>>>>feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of town 
>>>>>at the moment. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak  
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening in 
>>>>>2004, there must be some hope.
>>>>>>My print crushes any DVD version out there!
>>>>>>On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to 
>>>>>>burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
>>>>>>>Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you can't 
>>>>>>>afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
>>>>>>>to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my 
>>>>>>>customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm 
>>>>>>>print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print of 
>>>>>>>this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are 
>>>>>>>>with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the 
>>>>>>>>US. They thou

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Jessica Rosner
I am confused. Did your library itself buy a print with life of print
lease? They have not been all that common for a long time. Most studio
titles were sold for a limited number of years at which time they needed to
be renewed. In general it is not likely
that studio feature films had life of print leases, not sure about
educational titles.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:

> How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no
> meaningful way to prove it.
> On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>
>> The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching "
>> you are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show.
>> I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be
>> sending it to someone in France.
>>
>> One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and
>> try to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and
>> Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I
>> suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might be
>> guilted into agreeing
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we
>>> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. Screen
>>> it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another library's
>>> collection and they had leases on them?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
>>>
 I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
 lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
 "regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell
 film to track down and screen. However if
 Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put
 my feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of
 town at the moment.


 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak <
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote:

> I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm
> screening in 2004, there must be some hope.
>
> My print crushes any DVD version out there!
> On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner" 
> wrote:
>
>> They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate
>> to burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
>> Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you
>> can't afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
>> to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of
>> my customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
>> print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak <
>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm
>>> print of this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>>>
>>> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights
>>> are with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in 
>>> the
>>> US. They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in
>>> their catalog.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Dvorchak
>>> Office Manager
>>> Providence Community Library
>>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
>>> (401) 467-2700 x2
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will 
>>> serve as
>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>> producers and distributors.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
>> as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
> as
> 

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Dvorchak
How about the ones we did buy / do own that had leases though? I have no
meaningful way to prove it.
On Jun 8, 2012 3:25 PM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:

> The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching " you
> are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show.
> I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be sending
> it to someone in France.
>
> One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and try
> to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and
> Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I
> suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might be
> guilted into agreeing
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:
>
>> How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we
>> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. Screen
>> it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another library's
>> collection and they had leases on them?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
>>
>>> I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
>>> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
>>> "regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell
>>> film to track down and screen. However if
>>> Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put my
>>> feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of town
>>> at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak >> > wrote:
>>>
 I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening
 in 2004, there must be some hope.

 My print crushes any DVD version out there!
 On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:

> They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
> Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you
> can't afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
> to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of
> my customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
> print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak <
> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote:
>
>> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print
>> of this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>>
>> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights
>> are with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in 
>> the
>> US. They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in
>> their catalog.
>>
>> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>>
>> --
>> David Dvorchak
>> Office Manager
>> Providence Community Library
>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
>> (401) 467-2700 x2
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
>> as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
> as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>>> an effective working tool for video librarian

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Jessica Rosner
The leases were not transferable. The odds of Studio Canal "catching " you
are pretty much nil but it would be an illegal show.
I am making some progress in getting you an email but you would be sending
it to someone in France.

One long shot would be to contact the Scorsese office or um DENNIS and try
to get in touch with Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Powell's widow and
Scorsese's long time editor. She has no legal rights to the film but I
suspect if she asked Studio Canal to let you show an IB 16mm they might be
guilted into agreeing


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:

> How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we
> bought these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. Screen
> it and hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another library's
> collection and they had leases on them?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
>
>> I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
>> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
>> "regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell
>> film to track down and screen. However if
>> Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put my
>> feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of town
>> at the moment.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening
>>> in 2004, there must be some hope.
>>>
>>> My print crushes any DVD version out there!
>>> On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>>>
 They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
 burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
 Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you
 can't afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
 to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my
 customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
 print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak <
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org> wrote:

> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print
> of this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>
> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are
> with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the US.
> They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in their
> catalog.
>
> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>
> --
> David Dvorchak
> Office Manager
> Providence Community Library
> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
> (401) 467-2700 x2
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
> as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>> producers and distributors.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> David Dvorchak
> Office Manager
> Providence Community Library
> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
> (401) 467-2700 x2
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intend

Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Dvorchak
How do you prove anything with these old life of print leases? If we bought
these prints in the 60s and 70s, that paperwork is long gone. Screen it and
hope nobody comes after you? What if you inherit another library's
collection and they had leases on them?

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jessica Rosner wrote:

> I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
> lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
> "regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell film
> to track down and screen. However if
> Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put my
> feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of town
> at the moment.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak 
> wrote:
>
>> I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening
>> in 2004, there must be some hope.
>>
>> My print crushes any DVD version out there!
>> On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>>
>>> They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
>>> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
>>> Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you can't
>>> afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
>>> to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my
>>> customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
>>> print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak >> > wrote:
>>>
 I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print
 of this film, too good not to screen for the public.

 Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are
 with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the US.
 They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in their
 catalog.

 Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?

 --
 David Dvorchak
 Office Manager
 Providence Community Library
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
 (401) 467-2700 x2


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>> producers and distributors.
>>>
>>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>


-- 
David Dvorchak
Office Manager
Providence Community Library
ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
(401) 467-2700 x2
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Jessica Rosner
I would strongly suspect they screened it from a very old life of print
lease. I can tell you that the film has never had
"regular"  US film distribution and has been about the hardest Powell film
to track down and screen. However if
Studio Canal is the owner you will at least get an answer. I have put my
feelers out but my friend who has dealt with them the most is out of town
at the moment.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:

> I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening in
> 2004, there must be some hope.
>
> My print crushes any DVD version out there!
> On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:
>
>> They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
>> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
>> Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you can't
>> afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
>> to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my
>> customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
>> print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print of
>>> this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>>>
>>> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are
>>> with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the US.
>>> They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in their
>>> catalog.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Dvorchak
>>> Office Manager
>>> Providence Community Library
>>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
>>> (401) 467-2700 x2
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>> producers and distributors.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Dvorchak
I can see on Google that the Boston Public Library did a 16mm screening in
2004, there must be some hope.

My print crushes any DVD version out there!
On Jun 8, 2012 11:24 AM, "Jessica Rosner"  wrote:

> They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
> burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
> Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you can't
> afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
> to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my
> customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
> print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak 
> wrote:
>
>> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print of
>> this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>>
>> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are
>> with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the US.
>> They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in their
>> catalog.
>>
>> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>>
>> --
>> David Dvorchak
>> Office Manager
>> Providence Community Library
>> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
>> (401) 467-2700 x2
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] The Tales of Hoffman / Studio Canal

2012-06-08 Thread Jessica Rosner
They used to have a US rep named Stuart Lessel (?) in LA and I hate to
burst your bubble or jump to conclusions but
Studio Canal is almost surely one of those  if you have to ask you can't
afford it places. Their standard fee for venues
to show a current film is 500 Euros per show according to several of my
customers. They are also not likely to be friendly to the idea of 16mm
print being licensed. That said I will try to get you a contact.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Dave Dvorchak wrote:

> I have acquired a stupendous (!!!) original IB Technicolor 16mm print of
> this film, too good not to screen for the public.
>
> Criterion did a DVD which is now out of print, they say the rights are
> with Studio Canal but don't know who, or if anyone, distributes in the US.
> They thought maybe Rialto Pictures but it doesn't look like it's in their
> catalog.
>
> Anyone have a Studio Canal contact? Do they have a US operation?
>
> --
> David Dvorchak
> Office Manager
> Providence Community Library
> ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
> (401) 467-2700 x2
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.