Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Marsha Loyer]

We used to do that too with VHS tapes where it seemed to be more of a
problem with ends of the film not being there or bad reproductions.  We
found that with less and less staff and more and more volume we just
couldn't keep it  up and stopped cold turkey.  I do have to say that
material is getting out on the shelf in 1/3 of the time that we had when we
previewed each item.  Most reputable vendors will replace items that have
problems that the first person who checks it out finds something wrong with
it.  Bottom line.we have had to 'eat' a couple of items but the vast
difference in time saved and personnel better used is worth the difference.

Marsha Loyer

Mishawaka-Penn-Harris Public Library

Mishawaka, IN

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:32 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] quality check?

 

Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We are
finding that this is becoming a burden.we used to use students to check, but
with less and less work study

Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not
watching videos.

 

Is it worth it?

Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu  

 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Chris Drake]

Hi Rhonda,

I quality check every DVD that comes in but I generally have the time to do
it, even if it has to run in the background while I finish up any number of
other projects.

Out of the 500+ DVDs that have come in since I started checking for quality
I have only encountered one problem, but we would not have otherwise known
about it!  I've found a few quirks but nothing worth sending the video back
over.

In addition to checking for quality I try to actually watch the videos so
that I can advise our professors and contract teachers of the content and
handle the inevitable "I remember this video with such and such in it  but
I don't remember the title" questions that even our search engines can't
handle.

If you can fit it in I would recommend keeping it up.  If it really has
become a burden you can check the first five minutes and then handle any
problems that might occur later on or just eat the cost of the replacement
if it's really bad, although having one bad DVD end up on your shelves
unchecked can tarnish your department's reputation if it's a faculty member
with a lot of clout who ends up discovering the problem!

If your student desk workers have the software on either their personal or
work computers you could have them do the quality checks while at the desk
(which runs the risk of seeming unprofessional but they really will be
working--unless they are busy with circulation duties from shift beginning
to end!)  Have them use headphones and maybe keep one ear free for patrons
(although you run the risk of not identifying those single channel DVDs to
warn patrons of ahead of time.)

It honestly depends on how worried you are about problems (and the
repercussions of problems) and the volume of DVDs that come in per given
period of time.   Again, I only ever found the one problem out of all the
DVDs we've had come in the past couple years so we would have been safe
except for that one!  I would honestly recommend keeping the practice up
but it can be tossed if it truly has become a burden and the personnel who
would do it are desperately needed for other things.

If you get large amounts of titles for particular departments you could
maybe work with those departments to provide extra credit for students
willing to preview DVDs in their area of study and set them up in your
usual preview space.  I have not tried that out myself so I don't know what
kind of response you would get or the possible problems involved but it
would be a source of otherwise free labor.  Otherwise just run the video
beginning to end in the background while everything else is going on and
watch from the corner of your eye...and I'll admit that with some videos I
will tune them out and only watch for technical problems!

Best of luck and I hope you can find what works best for you!

Chris

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote:

> Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We
> are finding that this is becoming a burden…we used to use students to
> check, but with less and less work study
>
> Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not
> watching videos…
>
> ** **
>
> Is it worth it?
>
> Rhonda
>
> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
> William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
> One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
> rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
> http://library.lmu.edu
>
>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
> employing wild animals as librarians."
> *--Monty Python*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Gail Fedak]

Rhonda,

We check everything that comes in and strive for a 48-hour turnaround between 
arrival and shelf-ready - don't always make it, especially at the end of the 
fiscal year when large orders arrive. Faculty are scarce at this time, and 
demand for instant turnaround is low. We rely primarily on our student workers 
at the circulation desk to check the materials, following Chris's advice that 
they use the headphone on one ear with the other one targeted to patrons. Spot 
checking also works well. We usually have to return at least 2-3 titles per 
year, so we feel the time spent checking is worth it. If we are ever short on 
student help, I'll give Chris' idea about soliciting students from specific 
departments a try.

Good luck,

Gail


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] 
on behalf of Rosen, Rhonda J. [rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:31 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] quality check?

Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We are 
finding that this is becoming a burden…we used to use students to check, but 
with less and less work study
Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not watching 
videos…

Is it worth it?
Rhonda
Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python





VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Meghann Matwichuk]

Hi Rhonda,

We do have our students scan most material (standard DVDs and Blurays, 
skipping through chapters, just to make sure there are no obvious 
problems with operability).  There aren't many problems, but this 
doesn't take much time.


We have any DVD-Rs or very expensive films watched from start to 
finish.  We do turn up problems in some DVD-Rs, especially from a few 
key vendors, so we feel this is very important even though it takes some 
time.  We don't want a problem discovered after the film has been added 
to the collection and is being used in a class.


Best,

*
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Film and Video Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo

On 7/2/2012 7:31 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote:


Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? 
We are finding that this is becoming a burden...we used to use 
students to check, but with less and less work study


Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not 
watching videos...


Is it worth it?

Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu 

 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where 
people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy 
of employing wild animals as librarians."

*--Monty Python*


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.
   
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Bergman, Barbara J]

We check every DVD when it arrives, before it is cataloged.  The policy started 
when it used to take a long time to get AV cataloged - not a problem now, but 
still good to find problems immediately.

We don't find a huge number of problems, but it's bad PR if prof checks out a 
new DVD and discovers that it doesn't work in the classroom.  Yes, malfunctions 
happen regardless, but awkward when they know it's a new purchase...

Although I feel that we find enough problems to justify the process, I know 
that more time is spent on it than really necessary by a longtime staff member.
In the future, I anticipate making it a student task where it's a quick check 
of a chapter or two.
If in a pinch, we would probably only check the expensive titles. It's sadly 
possible that they might not get checked out for awhile, making it hard to 
determine if there was defect or if damage occurred later, and therefore a 
large loss if a problem is found later.

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State 
University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:32 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] quality check?

Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We are 
finding that this is becoming a burden...we used to use students to check, but 
with less and less work study
Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not watching 
videos...

Is it worth it?
Rhonda
Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu
 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python





VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check?

[Music Hunter]

That's a good policy!

 

Although we have NEVER had a DVD defective claim, the labels will not take
back any product once it has been cataloged.

 

Your search for sound & video ends here!

Jay Sonin, General Manager
Music Hunter Distributing Company
4880 North Citation Drive, Suite # 101
Delray Beach, Florida 33445-6552
musichunter...@gmail.com <mailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.com> 
561-450-7152 

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:12 PM
To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'
Subject: Re: [Videolib] quality check?

 

We check every DVD when it arrives, before it is cataloged.  The policy
started when it used to take a long time to get AV cataloged - not a problem
now, but still good to find problems immediately.

 

We don't find a huge number of problems, but it's bad PR if prof checks out
a new DVD and discovers that it doesn't work in the classroom.  Yes,
malfunctions happen regardless, but awkward when they know it's a new
purchase.

 

Although I feel that we find enough problems to justify the process, I know
that more time is spent on it than really necessary by a longtime staff
member.

In the future, I anticipate making it a student task where it's a quick
check of a chapter or two.

If in a pinch, we would probably only check the expensive titles. It's sadly
possible that they might not get checked out for awhile, making it hard to
determine if there was defect or if damage occurred later, and therefore a
large loss if a problem is found later.  

 

Barb Bergman | Media Services & Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota
State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:32 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] quality check?

 

Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? We are
finding that this is becoming a burden.we used to use students to check, but
with less and less work study

Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not
watching videos.

 

Is it worth it?

Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu <http://library.lmu.edu/> 

 "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing
wild animals as librarians."
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] quality check? (Meghann Matwichuk-Rhonda Rosen

[nahum laufer]

Hi Rhonda, Meghann and other Media librarians
I want to give some of my experience with DVDs,
1) DVDs are tricky pieces of metal, they work on one device and behave badly
on another, the following tale will explain :
In a public screening in JCC Utopia in Brooklyn towards the end (50 min) of
a 70 minute screening of "Rafting to Bombay" the DVD stopped and the
operator  could not run it to the end, he had a another DVD it had the same
problem , he checked both on his own home DVD they had this problem, he sent
them back to me, we checked them, both worked perfectly.
As a client is always correct we compensated the JCC .
My conclusion and experience is that the same DVD works on one device and
not on another, but usually computers "read" them without a problem .
2) another problem is scratches on the DVD that occur en-route by post, as
the postal services squeeze the packets, the plastic casing (book size 19
X13 c"ms) tend to crack , the bubble sheeted envelopes don't give enough
protection so now I use ordinary recycled paper envelopes and pad the DVD
with carton cut out of discarded cartons, and put the DVD into a plastic
sleeve that goes into the bigger book size casing, giving double protection,
I believe I have solved this problem.
3) I'm distributing a French film "Murder of a Hatmaker" I received from the
producer Multi-zone DVDs but they didn't work on NTSC players in USA , I had
to make NTSC copies and replace the ones I already distributed in America.

I hope my experience helps in deciding if to check or not DVDs
Cheers

Nahum Laufer
http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php
http://docsforeducation.com/ 
Sales
Docs for Education
Erez Laufer Films
Holland st 10 
Afulla 18371
Israel






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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 11:36:06 -0400
From: Meghann Matwichuk 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] quality check?
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Hi Rhonda,

We do have our students scan most material (standard DVDs and Blurays,
skipping through chapters, just to make sure there are no obvious problems
with operability).  There aren't many problems, but this doesn't take much
time.

We have any DVD-Rs or very expensive films watched from start to finish.  We
do turn up problems in some DVD-Rs, especially from a few key vendors, so we
feel this is very important even though it takes some time.  We don't want a
problem discovered after the film has been added to the collection and is
being used in a class.

Best,

*
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Film and Video Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo

On 7/2/2012 7:31 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote:
>
> Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? 
> We are finding that this is becoming a burden...we used to use 
> students to check, but with less and less work study
>
> Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not 
> watching videos...
>
> Is it worth it?
>
> Rhonda
>
> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services William H. Hannon Library 
> | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 
> 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.edu 
> <http://library.lmu.edu/>
>
>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where 
> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy 
> of employing wild animals as librarians."
> *--Monty Python*
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats

Re: [Videolib] quality check? (Meghann Matwichuk-Rhonda Rosen

[Rosen, Rhonda J.]

Thanks to all!
Rhonda

-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of nahum laufer
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:02 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] quality check? (Meghann Matwichuk-Rhonda Rosen

Hi Rhonda, Meghann and other Media librarians
I want to give some of my experience with DVDs,
1) DVDs are tricky pieces of metal, they work on one device and behave badly
on another, the following tale will explain :
In a public screening in JCC Utopia in Brooklyn towards the end (50 min) of
a 70 minute screening of "Rafting to Bombay" the DVD stopped and the
operator  could not run it to the end, he had a another DVD it had the same
problem , he checked both on his own home DVD they had this problem, he sent
them back to me, we checked them, both worked perfectly.
As a client is always correct we compensated the JCC .
My conclusion and experience is that the same DVD works on one device and
not on another, but usually computers "read" them without a problem .
2) another problem is scratches on the DVD that occur en-route by post, as
the postal services squeeze the packets, the plastic casing (book size 19
X13 c"ms) tend to crack , the bubble sheeted envelopes don't give enough
protection so now I use ordinary recycled paper envelopes and pad the DVD
with carton cut out of discarded cartons, and put the DVD into a plastic
sleeve that goes into the bigger book size casing, giving double protection,
I believe I have solved this problem.
3) I'm distributing a French film "Murder of a Hatmaker" I received from the
producer Multi-zone DVDs but they didn't work on NTSC players in USA , I had
to make NTSC copies and replace the ones I already distributed in America.

I hope my experience helps in deciding if to check or not DVDs
Cheers

Nahum Laufer
http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php
http://docsforeducation.com/ 
Sales
Docs for Education
Erez Laufer Films
Holland st 10 
Afulla 18371
Israel






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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 11:36:06 -0400
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Hi Rhonda,

We do have our students scan most material (standard DVDs and Blurays,
skipping through chapters, just to make sure there are no obvious problems
with operability).  There aren't many problems, but this doesn't take much
time.

We have any DVD-Rs or very expensive films watched from start to finish.  We
do turn up problems in some DVD-Rs, especially from a few key vendors, so we
feel this is very important even though it takes some time.  We don't want a
problem discovered after the film has been added to the collection and is
being used in a class.

Best,

*
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Film and Video Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo

On 7/2/2012 7:31 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote:
>
> Do you guys quality check every dvd that comes into your collection? 
> We are finding that this is becoming a burden...we used to use 
> students to check, but with less and less work study
>
> Hours being available, we are needing students at the counter and not 
> watching videos...
>
> Is it worth it?
>
> Rhonda
>
> Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media & Access Services William H. Hannon Library 
> | Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 
> 90045-2659 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| http://library.lmu.edu 
> <http://library.lmu.edu/>
>
>  "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where 
> people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our po