Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-08-06 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
On 6:07:21 pm 08/06/04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 06 August 2004 04:46, Larry Nguyen wrote:
   mi`nh sau khi install, cha.y df no' ba'o 1,7 GB.
 
   To^'i qua cha'u co' ca`i la.i Yoper. DDu'ng la` installation nhanh
   tha^.t. To^?ng co^.ng KDE and core la` 1.4GB. Not too bad. Kho^ng
   co' office suite va` kho^ng co' Gnome. Mozilla va` firefox (ca`i
   tu+` apt-get) kho^ng hie^?n thi. ddu+o+.c utf-8. Ba'c co' bi.
 va^.y 0?
 Mi`nh chi? dde^? nguye^n con cu?a no' ma` xa`i la` OK ro^`i, kho^ng
 ca`i the^m Moz ne^n kho^ng bie^'t. DDe^? y nguye^n thi` sau khi ca`i
 xvnkb 0.2.7b, va`o cho^~ na`o cu~ng go~ ddu+o+.c Unicode. 

Hehehe cha'u ho?i ne^'u ba'c co' bi. va^'n dde^` vo+'i Mozilla hie^?n thi.
tie^'ng Vie^.t khi xem ca'c trang web, chu+' kho^ng co' ho?i bo^. go~
tie^'ng Vie^.t. 
Mozilla thi` co' sa(~n sau khi install nhu+ng xa`i firefox quen ru`i ne^n
ho+i kho' chi.u khi 0 tha^'y. Ca? hai browsers, kho^ng co' ca'i na`o cha'u
xem ddu+o+.c trang web tie^'ng Vie^.t vo+'i default install.

-Larry

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-08-05 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
On 4:50:19 pm 08/05/04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Cha'u co' xem qua Yoper site nhu+ng kho^ng tha^'y ca'i ba`i na`o
   co' info na`y. Kho^ng bie^'t khi ho. so sa'nh, so^' lu+o+.ng ca'c
   go'i ca`i dda(.t co' gio^'ng nhau kho^ng? Cha'u nghi~ la` kho^ng
   vi` Yoper kho^ng ca`i dda(.t tu+`ng go'i ma` la` copy nguye^n
   pre-installed Yoper partition le^n ma'y cu?a ba'c.
 Mi`nh dda^u bie^'t nhu+~ng chuye^.n ky~ thua^.t na`y! Tre^n ma'y
 mi`nh sau khi install, cha.y df no' ba'o 1,7 GB.

To^'i qua cha'u co' ca`i la.i Yoper. DDu'ng la` installation nhanh tha^.t.
To^?ng co^.ng KDE and core la` 1.4GB. Not too bad. Kho^ng co' office suite
va` kho^ng co' Gnome. Mozilla va` firefox (ca`i tu+` apt-get) kho^ng hie^?n
thi. ddu+o+.c utf-8. Ba'c co' bi. va^.y 0? 

 Chie^u ru't gan bo? ruo^.t cu?a ca^.u va` Nguyen Thanh Bien sao
 kho' hie^?u qua', mo` hoa`i kho^ng ra? La`m o+n chi? la.i ddi. 1,7 GB
 ru't xuo^'ng co`n bao nhie^u?
Hehe, cha'u tra? lo+`i ba'c hie^?u la^`m. Y' cha'u no'i la` ca'c distros
kha'c, cha(?ng ha.n nhu+ Mandrakelinux :), thi` no' ca`i tu+`ng go'i va`
check dependencies trong khi Yoper kho^ng co' la`m chuye^.n na`y ma` la.i
copy mo^.t ca'i Yoper ca`i sa(~n KDE va` core le^n ma'y cu?a ba'c. 2 ca'i
methods no' install kha'c nhau ne^n khi so sa'nh A nhanh ho+n B ma` install
2 kie^?u kha'c nhau thi` 0 chi'nh xa'c cho la('m. Nhu+ng cha'u pha?i co^ng
nha^.n Yoper is fast.

   DDie^?m thu+' nhi` ho. no'i su+? du.ng Con Kolivas kernel. Ba'c
   bie^'t chu' na`y la` ai 0? :) Hint: ba'c xem la.i ca'i mail cha'u
   post ve^` vie^.c kho^ng du`ng nice trong Xsession ne^'u ba'c va^~n
 co`n giu+~ message ddo'. Con Kolivac kernel la` gi`? Thuye^'t pha'p
 cho ba` con nghe ddi. DDe^? xem la.i mail cu~.

Con Kolivas la` kernel developer va` la` Mandrakelinux die-hard fan nhu+
cha'u dda^y ;)

-Larry

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-08-04 Hội thoại maikhai04
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 21:27, Larry Nguyen wrote:

  Yoper V2(pre2) -Install time 12min. /Sysmem-93/Usermem-184 /Timing
  buffer cache reads -1528mb:sec/Timing buffer disk reads-18.47mb:sec
  /Loading time-Moz-6.3sec/Loading time-Konq.-1.1sec.

 snip

 Cha'u co' xem qua Yoper site nhu+ng kho^ng tha^'y ca'i ba`i na`o co' info
 na`y. Kho^ng bie^'t khi ho. so sa'nh, so^' lu+o+.ng ca'c go'i ca`i dda(.t
 co' gio^'ng nhau kho^ng? Cha'u nghi~ la` kho^ng vi` Yoper kho^ng ca`i
 dda(.t tu+`ng go'i ma` la` copy nguye^n pre-installed Yoper partition le^n
 ma'y cu?a ba'c.
Mi`nh dda^u bie^'t nhu+~ng chuye^.n ky~ thua^.t na`y! Tre^n ma'y mi`nh sau khi 
install, cha.y df no' ba'o 1,7 GB.
nhu+ va^.y qua? co' nhie^`u ho+n bi`nh thu+o+`ng so vo+'i ma^'y ca'i kha'c. 
Nhu+ng mie^~n sao no' ca`i vo^ nhanh, cha.y ddu+o+.c, cha.y nhanh, va` la`m 
ma^'y vie^.c kia ddu+o+.c la` OK ro^`i. Xa`i theo chi? tie^u niubi ma`. Khi 
na`o le^n chu+'c se~ ti'nh tie^'p dda^u co' kho' nu+~a.
 Ca'i na`y thi` cha('c cha('n se~ mau ho+n nhu+~ng distros 
 tha^.t su+. ca`i dda(.t tu+`ng go'i.
Chie^u ru't gan bo? ruo^.t cu?a ca^.u va` Nguyen Thanh Bien sao kho' hie^?u 
qua', mo` hoa`i kho^ng ra? La`m o+n chi? la.i ddi. 1,7 GB ru't xuo^'ng co`n 
bao nhie^u?
 DDie^?m thu+' nhi` ho. no'i su+? du.ng Con Kolivas kernel. Ba'c bie^'t chu'
 na`y la` ai 0? :) Hint: ba'c xem la.i ca'i mail cha'u post ve^` vie^.c
 kho^ng du`ng nice trong Xsession ne^'u ba'c va^~n co`n giu+~ message ddo'.
Con Kolivac kernel la` gi`? Thuye^'t pha'p cho ba` con nghe ddi. DDe^? xem 
la.i mail cu~.

 -Larry

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  After many long nights, here are accurate conclusions of testing, compared to YOPER Linux V2 (Prefinal).Test Platform: IBM T-40 2373-72u / Pentium M Class x86 / 768 MB DDR memoryTest Environment: Full use of disk, 1 GB of swapTest Basis: Base install as each developer group has chosen. With Debian and Slackware, bare minimum install with KDE.Purpose: To determine which Linux distribution is the fastest and most efficient in the world.Categories:01. MI - Menu Intelligence = Intuitive / Functional / Unreasonable02. ID - Install Difficulty = Advanced / Normal / Simple03. FR - Font Rendering = Excellent / Good / Fair04. TBCR - Timing Buffer Cache Reads05. TBDR - Timing Buffer Disk Reads06. Ms - Total Memory cached07. Mu - Total User memory08. IT- Install Time09. BT - Boot Time10. GQ - Graphical Quality = Superb / Good / Fair==YOPER Linux V2 (Prefinal): MI=I; ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=1279.23; TBDR=19.49; Ms=219; Mu=66; IT=8; BT=0.56; GQ=G01. Linspire: MI=I: ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=821.31; TBDR=12.74; Ms=258; Mu=102; IT=42; BT=1.48; GQ=S02. SuSE 9.0: MI=F: ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=784.67; TBDR=14.83; Ms=312; Mu=168; IT=48; BT=2.15; GQ=S03. SuSE 9.1: MI=F: ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=818; TBDR=14.21; Ms=326; Mu=181; IT=58; BT=1.4; GQ=S04. DEB_3r2: MI=F: ID=A; FR=F; TBCR=623; TBDR=6.71; Ms=292; Mu=171; IT=25; BT=1.21; GQ=F05. Fedora Core 2: MI=F; ID=N; FR=F; TBCR=581; TBDR=11.37; Ms=283; Mu=151; IT=57; BT=2.18; GQ=G06. Xandros: MI=I; ID=s; FR=G; TBCR=823; TBDR=17.46; Ms=327; Mu=182; IT=31; BT=1.46; GQ=S07. Slackware 10: MI=F; ID=A; FR=G; TBCR=756; TBDR=17.43; Ms=241; Mu=82; IT=46; BT=1.07; GQ=G08. Aurox 9.4: MI=I; ID=N; FR=G; TBCR=684; TBDR=12.68; Ms=252; Mu=146; IT=33; BT=1.46; GQ=F09. Connectiva 10: MI=I; ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=715; TBDR=19.01; Ms=346; Mu=181; IT=26; BT=1.10; GQ=S10. BLAG: MI=I; ID=s; FR=G; TBCR=493; TBDR=19.75; Ms=224; Mu=111; IT=37; BT=1.56; GQ=G11. Overclockix: MI=F; ID=N; FR=G; TBCR=635; TBDR=6.21; Ms=305; Mu=193; IT=16; BT=2.1; GQ=G12. Munjoy: MI=F; ID=s; FR=G; TBCR=688.58; TBDR=19.41; Ms=192; Mu=82; IT=28; BT=2.13; GQ=G13. LBA: MI=I; ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=697; TBDR=19.47; Ms=230; Mu=96; IT=32; BT=1.32; GQ=S14. Lorma 5: MI=F; ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=692; TBDR=19.46; Ms=274; Mu=108; IT=28; BT=1.40; GQ=G15. Onebase 1.4: MI=F; ID=N; FR=G; TBCR=738; TBDR=17.76; Ms=251; Mu=93; IT=14; BT=2.04; GQ=S16. PeanutPro: MI=U; ID=s; FR=F; TBCR=423; TBDR=19.80; Ms=311; Mu=138; IT=17; BT=1.37; GQ=F17. Mandrake 10: MI=U; ID=N; FR=E; TBCR=891; TBDR=19.42; Ms=235; Mu=83; IT=22; BT=1.41; GQ=F18. Knoppix 3.4: MI=F; ID=N; FR=F; TBCR=702; TBDR=2.73; Ms=263; Mu=176; IT=41; BT=1.53; GQ=S19. PCLinux 2K4: MI=F; ID=s; FR=E; TBCR=736; TBDR=19.42; Ms=270; Mu=144; IT=21; BT=1.43; GQ=S20. Mepis: MI=I; ID=s; FR=F; TBCR=804; TBDR=19.48; Ms=270; Mu=189; IT=34; BT=1.31; GQ=F21. Asp.: MI=F; ID=s; FR=F; TBCR=612; TBDR=12.42; Ms=235; Mu=168; IT=54; BT=1.31; GQ=G22. ArkH2o: MI=F; ID=s; FR=G; TBCR=817; TBDR=17.63; Ms=254; Mu=167; IT=39; BT=1.43; GQ=GFinal Notes:YOPER Linux V2 (Prefinal) has proven itself to be the fastest and most nimble Linux distribution in the 

Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-08-03 Hội thoại maikhai04
On Saturday 31 July 2004 08:25, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
 On Friday 30 July 2004 20:06, Larry Nguyen wrote:
  On 2:04:23 am 07/30/04 Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Chao cac bac !
   Em vu+`a ca`i dda(.t YOper (http://www.yoper.com/) va`o ca'i laptop
   Acer TravelMate 530 (CPU Pentium IV 2Ghz, RAM 512MB..) va` tha^'y no'
   cha.y nhanh tha^.t dda^'y, kho^ng ho^? danh no' go.i la` ddi't tra^u
   nhanh nha^'t hie^.n nay:


Tha^'y tre^n YOPER website:

Yoper V2(pre2) -Install time 12min. /Sysmem-93/Usermem-184 /Timing buffer 
cache reads -1528mb:sec/Timing buffer disk reads-18.47mb:sec /Loading 
time-Moz-6.3sec/Loading time-Konq.-1.1sec.
  
Yoper Pre3 -install time 13min. /Sysmem-81/Usermem-265 /Timing buffer cache 
reads-1528mb:sec /Timing buffer disk reads-18.47mb:sec /Loading 
time-Moz-2.8sec /Loading time-Konq-.4sec.
  
Knoppix 3.4 (Installed to HD) - install time 
41min. /Sysmem-84/Usermem-176 /Timing buffer cache reads-702mb:sec/Timing 
buffer disk reads-2.73mb:sec/Loading time-Moz-8.4sec /Loading 
time-Konq-4.1sec
  
PCLinuxos-2K4 - install time 21min./Sysmem-97/Usermem-144/Timing buffer cache 
reads-736mb:sec/Timing buffer disk reads-19.42mb:sec /Loading 
time-Moz-10.2sec./Loading time-Konq-2.8sec.
  
Mepis-5/09/2004Edition -install time 34min./Sysmem-81/Usermem-189/Timing 
buffer cache reads-804mb:sec /Timing buffer disk reads-19.48mb:sec/Loading 
time-Moz-8.5sec/Loading time-Konq-3.0sec.
  
Mandrake 10 Official -install time 22min,/Sysmem-68/Usermem-183/Timing buffer 
cache reads-891mb:sec/Timing buffer disk reads-18.44mb:sec/Loading 
time-Moz-5.7sec/Loading time-Konq-2.0sec
 
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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-31 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 12:08 pm, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:

 YOS no' ca`i ta^'t va`o / (dde^? de^~ vie^'t chu+o+ng tri`nh ca`i dda(.t
 a^'y ma`)
 Ne^'u kho^ng muo^'n the^? thi`:
 fdisk, mkfs.. dde^? ta.o the^m partition va` fs mo+'i,
 sau ddo' mount ta.m nhu+~ng ca'i ddo' va`o dda^u
 ddo' (/mnt/tmpusr, /mnt/tmpvar...)

 Ro^`i nha('m ma('t:
  cp -rp /usr /mnt/tmpusr
  cp -rp /var /mnt/tmpvar
 

 edit la.i fstab cho ho+.p vo+'i hoa`n ca?nh (the^m ma^'y tha(`ng vu+`a
 ta.o, va`o ca'c mount point thu+.c te^' /usr, /var...)

 reboot mo^.t ca'i dde^? kie^?m tra dda~ ngon chu+a ?? ne^'u ngon thi` ddu't
 mo^.t ca'i ddi~a LiveCD na`o ddo' (Knoppix, SystemRescue...), boot tu+`
 cdrom, chui va`o ca'i partition / ma` vu+`a cai` YOS ro^`i xoa' be'ng
 ruo^.t gan (chi? ruo^.t gan tho^i ba'c nhe') cu?a /usr, /var.. dde^? tie^'t
 kie^.m diskspace. co`n thi'ch nu+~a thi` resize cho be' la.i (ba(`ng
 parted)..

 Ro^`i boot la.i bi`nh thu+o+`ng (ba(`ng YOS)

Va^~n chu+a thu+.c hie^?u.

Ca`i le^n HDD, df ba'o :
1667284 (cu~ng co' va`i file mo+'i download)
the^' la` qua' nhie^`u pha?i kho^ng? Do ca'i gi` thu+`a?

Gia? su+? dda~ la`m xong dde^'n giai ddoa.n ...dde^? tie^'t kie^.m 
diskspace..., khi du`ng parted resize cho be' la.i vu+`a KHI'T co' ddu+o+.c 
kho^ng? Sau ddo' # ln -s ... vo+'i ca'i gi` ddo' thi` an toa`n xa lo^. chu+'?

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-31 Hội thoại Nguyen Thanh Bien
On Saturday 31 July 2004 14:30, maikhai wrote:
 Ca`i le^n HDD, df ba'o :
 1667284 (cu~ng co' va`i file mo+'i download)
 the^' la` qua' nhie^`u pha?i kho^ng? Do ca'i gi` thu+`a?
Cha'u kho^ng ro~ y' ba'c, va` cu~ng kho^ng ro~ con so^' kia la` gi`, ba'c 
pha?i cho ra dda^`y ddu? ca'i output cu?a df thi` cha'u mo+'i co' the^? 
ddoa'n ddu+o+.c


 Gia? su+? dda~ la`m xong dde^'n giai ddoa.n ...dde^? tie^'t kie^.m
 diskspace..., khi du`ng parted resize cho be' la.i vu+`a KHI'T co'
 ddu+o+.c kho^ng?

DDu+o+.c a. !
nhu+ng xong thi` ba'c nho+' run lilo ngay (mount, chroot, ro^`i run lilo)
dde^? no' update vi. tri' mo+'i cu?a kernel (physical address on harddisk)
 Sau ddo' # ln -s ... vo+'i ca'i gi` ddo' thi` an toa`n xa 
 lo^. chu+'?
Cha'u kho^ng hie^?u, theo cha'u thi` kho^ng ca^`n ca'i na`y, vi` fstab dda~ 
tro? tha(?ng va`o filesystem co' /usr, /var...ro^`i ma`

Cha'u Bie^n
 


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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-31 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 3:57 pm, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
 On Saturday 31 July 2004 14:30, maikhai wrote:
  Ca`i le^n HDD, df ba'o :
  1667284 (cu~ng co' va`i file mo+'i download)
Xin lo^~i.
La` 1667MB
  the^' la` qua' nhie^`u pha?i kho^ng? Do ca'i gi` thu+`a?

La`m o+n gia?ng cho tha^'p to^'i dda thi` mi`nh mo+'i hie^?u ddu+o+.c.

 Cha'u kho^ng ro~ y' ba'c, va` cu~ng kho^ng ro~ con so^' kia la` gi`, ba'c
 pha?i cho ra dda^`y ddu? ca'i output cu?a df thi` cha'u mo+'i co' the^?
 ddoa'n ddu+o+.c

  Gia? su+? dda~ la`m xong dde^'n giai ddoa.n ...dde^? tie^'t kie^.m
  diskspace..., khi du`ng parted resize cho be' la.i vu+`a KHI'T co'
  ddu+o+.c kho^ng?

 DDu+o+.c a. !
 nhu+ng xong thi` ba'c nho+' run lilo ngay (mount, chroot, ro^`i run lilo)
 dde^? no' update vi. tri' mo+'i cu?a kernel (physical address on harddisk)

  Sau ddo' # ln -s ... vo+'i ca'i gi` ddo' thi` an toa`n xa
  lo^. chu+'?

 Cha'u kho^ng hie^?u, theo cha'u thi` kho^ng ca^`n ca'i na`y, vi` fstab dda~
 tro? tha(?ng va`o filesystem co' /usr, /var...ro^`i ma`

Vi` mi`nh ta.o 1 partition rie^ng co+~ 5GB, chi? du`ng dde^? chu+'a mails. 
Ba^'t cu+' ca`i distro na`o cu~ng chi? ca^`n 
# ln -s /mnt/hda10/Mail  /home/abc
la` xa`i ngay ddu+o+.c. Kho^ng bie^'t nhu+ the^' thi` dda~ la` ca'ch to^'i u+u 
chu+a, chi? bie^'t la` no' tie^.n cho vie^.c . . . nghi.ch vo.c la('m.

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-31 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 12:08, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
 Ne^'u kho^ng muo^'n the^? thi`:
 fdisk, mkfs.. dde^? ta.o the^m partition va` fs mo+'i,
 sau ddo' mount ta.m nhu+~ng ca'i ddo' va`o dda^u
 ddo' (/mnt/tmpusr, /mnt/tmpvar...)

 Ro^`i nha('m ma('t:
 cp -rp /usr /mnt/tmpusr
 cp -rp /var /mnt/tmpvar
 

Co' le~ pha?i go~ :

cp -rp /var/*   (/mnt/hda10/)/mnt/tmpvar 
cp -rp /usr/*  (/mnt/hda10/)/mnt/tmpusr

chu+' nhi??

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-31 Hội thoại maikhai
Hi Nguyen Thanh Bien!

  To'm la.i, make sure la` ba'c co' ca'i file /etc/apt/source.list nhu+
  sau: rpm ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper version2 os
  rpm ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper contrib os
  rpm-src ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper version2 os
  rpm-src ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper contrib os

Cha.y ca'c le^.nh ca^`n thie^'t ro^`i thu+? :
# apt-get install k3b
# apt-get install cdrtools
# apt-get install cdrdao
. . .

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Get:1 ftp://us2.yoper.com version2/os k3b 0.11.12-1 [9023kB]
Fetched 9023kB in 29m40s (5069B/s)
. . .

Cu+.c ky` !
(nhu+ng no' la^'y 9MB ma^'t nu+?a gio+`. Ma' o+i)
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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại maikhai04
On Friday 30 July 2004 03:04 am, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
 Chao cac bac !
 Em vu+`a ca`i dda(.t YOper (http://www.yoper.com/) va`o ca'i laptop Acer
 TravelMate 530 (CPU Pentium IV 2Ghz, RAM 512MB..) va` tha^'y no' cha.y
 nhanh tha^.t dda^'y, kho^ng ho^? danh no' go.i la` ddi't tra^u nhanh nha^'t
 hie^.n nay:
 - em ca`i desktop la` KDE, OpenOffice 1.1.2
 - ca`i xvnkb kho^ng co' va^'n dde^` gi`, sau khi dda~ export
 LANG=en.US.UTF-8 va`o /etc/profile
  Kho+?i ddo^.ng OpenOffice (Writer, Math) nhanh khu?ng khie^'p, de^'m

O^'i gio+`i! Sao ti`m ma~i cha(?ng tha^'y OOorg dda^u the^'? hehe

 dde^'n ddu'ng gia^y thu+' 5 ke^? tu+` khi click chuo^.t thi` no' load xong
 hoa`n toa`n (blank document)
 - Cha.y ca'c u+'ng du.ng tho^ng thu+o+`ng cu?a KDE cu~ng nhanh la('m

 Chi? co' ddie^`u:

Cha? tha^'y  mc dda^u ca? tu+'c bo? bu.

 Pha?i chi?nh su+?a la.i font size mo^.t chu't, the^m font tie^'ng Vie^.t
 va` nhu+~ng thu+' linh tinh ...

 Nhanh ho+n ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng tha(`ng kha'c  ma` em dda~ thu+?, nhanh ho+n
 ca? gentoo vo+'i cu`ng ca'c u+'ng du.ng...

Nhu+ng du` sao cu~ng . . . pha^'n kho+?i!

 No' dda~ la`m nhu+~ng gi~ dde^? nhanh the^' nhi? ?
 -
 Xem the^m:
 http://www.yoper.com/comparison/desktopcomparison.html
 http://www.yoper.com/about.html

Ho?i nho? :
La`m sao ca`i tha(`ng vim va`o? Ca'i origine cu?a no' khi nha^'n [i] (insert) 
no' co'c cho la`m, cu+' nu~ng ni.u hoa`i!

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Nguyen Thanh Bien
On Saturday 31 July 2004 04:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 O^'i gio+`i! Sao ti`m ma~i cha(?ng tha^'y OOorg dda^u the^'? hehe
apt-get install openoffice-en

 Cha? tha^'y  mc dda^u ca? tu+'c bo? bu.
apt-get install mc

 Ho?i nho? :
 La`m sao ca`i tha(`ng vim va`o? Ca'i origine cu?a no' khi nha^'n [i]
 (insert) no' co'c cho la`m, cu+' nu~ng ni.u hoa`i!
no' kho^ng hie^.n chu+~ Insert o+? cuo^'i ma`n hi`nh dda^u ba'c a., nhu+ng 
va^~n cha.y ngo.n (nhie^`u tha(`ng unix: *bsd,SunOS, HP-UX cu~ng dde^`u 
kho^ng hie^.n ma`)

Cha'u ddang install the^m mo^.t ddo^'ng nu+~a coi the^' na`o, nhu+ng dde^'n 
acroread (Acrobat Reader) thi` kho^ng cha.y, conflig lung tung, --force cu~ng 
kho^ng ddu+o+.c (kho^ng pha?i do dependancy)



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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
On 2:04:23 am 07/30/04 Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chao cac bac !
 Em vu+`a ca`i dda(.t YOper (http://www.yoper.com/) va`o ca'i laptop
 Acer TravelMate 530 (CPU Pentium IV 2Ghz, RAM 512MB..) va` tha^'y no'
 cha.y nhanh tha^.t dda^'y, kho^ng ho^? danh no' go.i la` ddi't tra^u
 nhanh nha^'t hie^.n nay:
 - em ca`i desktop la` KDE, OpenOffice 1.1.2
 - ca`i xvnkb kho^ng co' va^'n dde^` gi`, sau khi dda~ export
 LANG=en.US.UTF-8 va`o /etc/profile
  Kho+?i ddo^.ng OpenOffice (Writer, Math) nhanh khu?ng khie^'p, de^'m
 dde^'n ddu'ng gia^y thu+' 5 ke^? tu+` khi click chuo^.t thi` no' load
 xong hoa`n toa`n (blank document)

Xem ca'i pha^`n setting memory cu?a OO.org no' set bao nhie^u va^.y? Under
Options...


 - Cha.y ca'c u+'ng du.ng tho^ng thu+o+`ng cu?a KDE cu~ng nhanh la('m

 Chi? co' ddie^`u:
 Pha?i chi?nh su+?a la.i font size mo^.t chu't, the^m font tie^'ng
 Vie^.t va` nhu+~ng thu+' linh tinh ...

 Nhanh ho+n ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng tha(`ng kha'c  ma` em dda~ thu+?, nhanh
 ho+n ca? gentoo vo+'i cu`ng ca'c u+'ng du.ng...

Chi? no'i xa`i Gentoo nhanh la('m la` mo^.t sai la^`m. Tu`y va`o nhie^`u
thu+' la('m ba'c. I could have a Mandrakelinux box that will run faster
than Gentoo and vice-versa.


 No' dda~ la`m nhu+~ng gi~ dde^? nhanh the^' nhi? ?

Ne^'u mi`nh nho+'i 0 la^`m, no' compile everything cho i686, patch kernel
ddu? kie^?u.

Co' ca'i la` Yoper installer ho+i vui vui. Basically the installer copy the
whole pre-installed partition onto your partition /me thinks. 

-Larry

http://www.nhmlinux.net




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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Larry Nguyen
On 5:51:12 am 07/30/04 Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Cha'u ddang install the^m mo^.t ddo^'ng nu+~a coi the^' na`o, nhu+ng
 dde^'n acroread (Acrobat Reader) thi` kho^ng cha.y, conflig lung
 tung, --force cu~ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c (kho^ng pha?i do dependancy)


Bi. ca'i gi` Bie^n? Chu+a bao gio+` mi`nh bi. problem ca`i dda(.t go'i rpm
ca?. What's the error?

-Larry

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại maikhai
On Friday 30 July 2004 5:51 pm, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:

 apt-get install mc

Mi`nh thi` download ca'i mc-4.6.0 ro^`i i.n va`o. Co' va`i ca'i distro kha'c 
cu~ng ca^`n nhu+ va^.y.

 no' kho^ng hie^.n chu+~ Insert o+? cuo^'i ma`n hi`nh dda^u ba'c a., nhu+ng
 va^~n cha.y ngo.n (nhie^`u tha(`ng unix: *bsd,SunOS, HP-UX cu~ng dde^`u
 kho^ng hie^.n ma`)

Nhu+ng va^~n tha^'y kho' xa`i, vi` sau khi nha^'n insert, du`ng phi'm mu~i 
te^n hay hjkl no' va^~n chue^.ch choa.c kho' chi.u. 
Trong YOS mi`nh xa`i mcedit hay nano qua'ch cho ddu+o+.c vie^.c.

 Cha'u ddang install the^m mo^.t ddo^'ng nu+~a coi the^' na`o, nhu+ng dde^'n
 acroread (Acrobat Reader) thi` kho^ng cha.y, conflig lung tung, --force
 cu~ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c (kho^ng pha?i do dependancy)

Co' pha?i muo^'n apt-get install openoffice-en thi` ca^`n connect tru+o+'c hay 
kho^ng? The^' thi` kho^ng da'm dda^u!


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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Nguyen Thanh Bien
On Friday 30 July 2004 20:06, Larry Nguyen wrote:
 On 2:04:23 am 07/30/04 Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chao cac bac !
  Em vu+`a ca`i dda(.t YOper (http://www.yoper.com/) va`o ca'i laptop
  Acer TravelMate 530 (CPU Pentium IV 2Ghz, RAM 512MB..) va` tha^'y no'
  cha.y nhanh tha^.t dda^'y, kho^ng ho^? danh no' go.i la` ddi't tra^u
  nhanh nha^'t hie^.n nay:
  - em ca`i desktop la` KDE, OpenOffice 1.1.2
  - ca`i xvnkb kho^ng co' va^'n dde^` gi`, sau khi dda~ export
  LANG=en.US.UTF-8 va`o /etc/profile
   Kho+?i ddo^.ng OpenOffice (Writer, Math) nhanh khu?ng khie^'p, de^'m
  dde^'n ddu'ng gia^y thu+' 5 ke^? tu+` khi click chuo^.t thi` no' load
  xong hoa`n toa`n (blank document)

 Xem ca'i pha^`n setting memory cu?a OO.org no' set bao nhie^u va^.y? Under
 Options...

Em lu+o+`i go~ la.i ne^n attact va`o dda^y cho ba'c coi !

 Chi? no'i xa`i Gentoo nhanh la('m la` mo^.t sai la^`m. Tu`y va`o nhie^`u
 thu+' la('m ba'c. I could have a Mandrakelinux box that will run faster
 than Gentoo and vice-versa.
Ba'c no'i ddu'ng, va` gentoo cho mi`nh co+ ho^.i dde^? la`m no' cha.y nhanh 
ho+n default settings (co' ddie^`u chu+a ddu? kie^'n thu+'c va` kie^n nha^~n 
dde^? la`m tho^i)


  No' dda~ la`m nhu+~ng gi~ dde^? nhanh the^' nhi? ?

 Ne^'u mi`nh nho+'i 0 la^`m, no' compile everything cho i686, patch kernel
 ddu? kie^?u.

 Co' ca'i la` Yoper installer ho+i vui vui. Basically the installer copy the
 whole pre-installed partition onto your partition /me thinks.

DDu'ng va^.y, sau ddo' la.i pha?i customize la.i ca'c partitions, copy, ro^`i 
edit fstab thi` mo+'i ddu+o+.c nhu+ y'..

em Bie^n
attachment: OOmemsetting.jpg

Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Nguyen Thanh Bien
On Friday 30 July 2004 20:24, Larry Nguyen wrote:
 On 5:51:12 am 07/30/04 Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cha'u ddang install the^m mo^.t ddo^'ng nu+~a coi the^' na`o, nhu+ng
  dde^'n acroread (Acrobat Reader) thi` kho^ng cha.y, conflig lung
  tung, --force cu~ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c (kho^ng pha?i do dependancy)

 Bi. ca'i gi` Bie^n? Chu+a bao gio+` mi`nh bi. problem ca`i dda(.t go'i rpm
 ca?. What's the error?

 -Larry
Cu. the^? la` the^' na`y:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bien # apt-get install acroread
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  acroread
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 removed and 10 not upgraded.
Need to get 9205kB of archives.
After unpacking 25.5MB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 ftp://us2.yoper.com version2/os acroread 0:5.0.8-1 [9205kB]
Fetched 9205kB in 9m35s (16.0kB/s)
Committing changes...
Preparing...### [100%]
file /usr/lib/mozilla from install of acroread-5.0.8-1 conflicts with 
file from package mozilla-1.7-2
file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults from install of acroread-5.0.8-1 
conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.4.0-7
E: Error while running transaction
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bien #

Quay ra 
rpm -ivh --nodeps 
--force /var/cache/apt/archives/acroread_0%3a5.0.8-1_i686.rpm
Nhu+ng khi cha.y acroread thi` va^~n ba'o lo^~i lung tung.
Em kho^ng the^? reproduce ca'i lo^~i ddo' ddu+o+.c vi` dda~ download acroread 
tu+` adobe.com, ca`i va` cha.y ngon la`nh ro^`i, que^n luo^n vu. ddo' luo^n

em Bie^n


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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 8:25 am, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
  Co' ca'i la` Yoper installer ho+i vui vui. Basically the installer copy
  the whole pre-installed partition onto your partition /me thinks.

 DDu'ng va^.y, sau ddo' la.i pha?i customize la.i ca'c partitions, copy,
 ro^`i edit fstab thi` mo+'i ddu+o+.c nhu+ y'..

Vu. na`y nghi~a la` sao? Gentoo hay Yos? Ne^'u la` Yos thi` customize the^' 
na`o, co`n cho+` gi` nu+~a ma` kho^ng xua^'t chie^u ra nhi?!

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 8:17 am, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
 Lo^~i na`y do ba'c kho^ng co' Internet connection (chi'nh xa'c la` dns
 setting chu+a ddu'ng)

  Ti`m no' o+? dda^u?

 To'm la.i, make sure la` ba'c co' ca'i file /etc/apt/source.list nhu+ sau:
 rpm ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper version2 os
 rpm ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper contrib os
 rpm-src ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper version2 os
 rpm-src ftp://us2.yoper.com/pub/linux/yoper/yoper contrib os

 Sau ddo' cha.y apt-get update tru+o+'c khi ca`i ca'c packages kha'c

DDo+n gia?n la` co'p ma^'y do`ng tre^n kia va`o source.list ro^`i connect 
ro^`i cha.y apt-get? La^'y OOorg ma^'t chu+`ng ma^'y tie^'ng ne^'u du`ng 
dialup 56k?

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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại maikhai
On Saturday 31 July 2004 8:53 am, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:

 Kho^ng da'm thi` chi.u tho^i ba'c a. ha^`u he^'t ca'c package ddo' dde^?
 tre^n Internet ma`(tre^n ddi~a cd chi? co' mo^.t te.o tho^i)


Ta^'t nhie^n ro^`i. No' co`n kho^ng co' ca? cdrecord hay k3b, kho^ng co' app 
coi phim vv . . . ne^n Larry che^ no' cu? dda^.u cu~ng dda'ng.
Nhu+ng no' nhanh thie^.t. Gu+?i meo ra^'t su+o+'ng.
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Re: [Vietlug] YOper an tuong that day cac bac a !

2004-07-30 Hội thoại Nguyen Thanh Bien
On Saturday 31 July 2004 11:36, maikhai wrote:
 On Saturday 31 July 2004 8:25 am, Nguyen Thanh Bien wrote:
   Co' ca'i la` Yoper installer ho+i vui vui. Basically the installer copy
   the whole pre-installed partition onto your partition /me thinks.
 
  DDu'ng va^.y, sau ddo' la.i pha?i customize la.i ca'c partitions, copy,
  ro^`i edit fstab thi` mo+'i ddu+o+.c nhu+ y'..

 Vu. na`y nghi~a la` sao? Gentoo hay Yos? Ne^'u la` Yos thi` customize the^'
 na`o, co`n cho+` gi` nu+~a ma` kho^ng xua^'t chie^u ra nhi?!

Co' gi` dda^u ba'c !! tro` tre? con a^'y ma`:

YOS no' ca`i ta^'t va`o / (dde^? de^~ vie^'t chu+o+ng tri`nh ca`i dda(.t a^'y 
ma`)
Ne^'u kho^ng muo^'n the^? thi`:
fdisk, mkfs.. dde^? ta.o the^m partition va` fs mo+'i,
sau ddo' mount ta.m nhu+~ng ca'i ddo' va`o dda^u 
ddo' (/mnt/tmpusr, /mnt/tmpvar...)

Ro^`i nha('m ma('t:
 cp -rp /usr /mnt/tmpusr
 cp -rp /var /mnt/tmpvar


edit la.i fstab cho ho+.p vo+'i hoa`n ca?nh (the^m ma^'y tha(`ng vu+`a ta.o, 
va`o ca'c mount point thu+.c te^' /usr, /var...)

reboot mo^.t ca'i dde^? kie^?m tra dda~ ngon chu+a ?? ne^'u ngon thi` ddu't 
mo^.t ca'i ddi~a LiveCD na`o ddo' (Knoppix, SystemRescue...), boot tu+` 
cdrom, chui va`o ca'i partition / ma` vu+`a cai` YOS ro^`i xoa' be'ng ruo^.t 
gan (chi? ruo^.t gan tho^i ba'c nhe') cu?a /usr, /var.. dde^? tie^'t kie^.m 
diskspace. co`n thi'ch nu+~a thi` resize cho be' la.i (ba(`ng parted)..

Ro^`i boot la.i bi`nh thu+o+`ng (ba(`ng YOS)

-- DDu'ng la` tre? con ba'c nhi? ?
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