[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
Nice. I love this music. So very different from the bombast of mainstream European guitar at the time...which I also love...but it is different. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Stuart Walsh > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:03 PM > To: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G > > Wayne closed down the 'early guitar' discussion list. Reasonably enough: > there was no discussion and it wasn't really about the early guitar, but > the nineteenth century guitar. > > So I think this vihuela list has to be the place for little forays into > the 19th century. Anyway I've been looking at some music for an > instrument simply known as 'seven string guitar' but written like > this:семиструнная гитара and better known to non-Russians as the > 'Russian' guitar and tuned to a G major chord. > > There are quite a few videos for the instrument on youtube. Mostly they > are gypsy things: very fast and flashy or Russian variation-sets, also > very fast and flashy. Big, fast, loud, assertive, very technically > proficient performances. So I thought it would be interesting to put up > a couple of pieces that are not any of these! > > > Here are two little pieces (amateur performances) > > 1) (so the music says) a Romance, arranged by V.Sarenko > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtrsfN78dY > > 2) Not knowing Russian beyond the alpahbet I have no idea what this is > called. But it's a little tune with two variations. Sychra wrote > variation sets which are very challenging but this is an easy one. > Still, it's challenging enough for me. I think they had a lot of time on > their hands back in the day. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZor6IZJag > > (the Sarenko piece is an oddity. It doesn't sound like other 'Romances' > and it doesn't seem much like other pieces by Sarenko and it's not in > the (can't remember the spelling) Stellowsky (or however as it is > rendered in English) catalogue. It doesn't go higher than the fourth > fret. Sarenko wrote a 'romance without words' (if I've got that right) > but that Romance has a gliss up to the twelfth fret in the very first > bar and it has harmonics and it's not at all like this little 'Romance'. > On the other hand, this little 'Romance' although it's not flashy it's > so spare, it's really difficult to play.) > > > Stuart > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
The Romance is a very beautiful little piece. Thanks! -- R To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
ciao stuart - sounded good ... and - as i look out my window at a sudden fall of snow during the night - highly appropriate. i had an opportuniy to pick up a russian - 7 string - guitar on ebay once but passed - haven't seen one since. as for eliminating the vihuela list ... in a dark moment of despondency and despair, i cancelled my early music charango blog - seems no one (choke - sob) was interested! healing - bill http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=billkilpatrick -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
Sounds fine to me. I think you just wanted to be true to their markedly melancholic nature (the first piece in particular), didn't you, Stuart ;) Very nicely played, by the way, and with reminiscent scenery ... You should do some more. Alexander PS: You can send me the title of the second one and I'll translate it for you. Stuart Walsh wrote: Thanks for having a listen. I put up two pieces and they both sound OK to me - in the sense that the sound doesn't keep fading away. The first piece is quite odd in having clearly notated rests: it looks like you should really pause and not let the notes ring on. So maybe the sound wasn't fading but it was just the pauses! Some of this Russian stuff is extremely meticulously notated but maybe I was taking the notation too literally. And, perhaps we just need one lutelist. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
Monica Hall wrote: There is very little discussion now on the vihuela list either these days. Perhaps we only really need one lutelist after all. I listened to your Russian piece. Nice, but the sound kept fading away. Keep at it. Monica Thanks for having a listen. I put up two pieces and they both sound OK to me - in the sense that the sound doesn't keep fading away. The first piece is quite odd in having clearly notated rests: it looks like you should really pause and not let the notes ring on. So maybe the sound wasn't fading but it was just the pauses! Some of this Russian stuff is extremely meticulously notated but maybe I was taking the notation too literally. And, perhaps we just need one lutelist. Stuart - Original Message - From: "Stuart Walsh" To: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:02 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G Wayne closed down the 'early guitar' discussion list. Reasonably enough: there was no discussion and it wasn't really about the early guitar, but the nineteenth century guitar. So I think this vihuela list has to be the place for little forays into the 19th century. Anyway I've been looking at some music for an instrument simply known as 'seven string guitar' but written like this:семиструнная гитара and better known to non-Russians as the 'Russian' guitar and tuned to a G major chord. There are quite a few videos for the instrument on youtube. Mostly they are gypsy things: very fast and flashy or Russian variation-sets, also very fast and flashy. Big, fast, loud, assertive, very technically proficient performances. So I thought it would be interesting to put up a couple of pieces that are not any of these! Here are two little pieces (amateur performances) 1) (so the music says) a Romance, arranged by V.Sarenko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtrsfN78dY 2) Not knowing Russian beyond the alpahbet I have no idea what this is called. But it's a little tune with two variations. Sychra wrote variation sets which are very challenging but this is an easy one. Still, it's challenging enough for me. I think they had a lot of time on their hands back in the day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZor6IZJag (the Sarenko piece is an oddity. It doesn't sound like other 'Romances' and it doesn't seem much like other pieces by Sarenko and it's not in the (can't remember the spelling) Stellowsky (or however as it is rendered in English) catalogue. It doesn't go higher than the fourth fret. Sarenko wrote a 'romance without words' (if I've got that right) but that Romance has a gliss up to the twelfth fret in the very first bar and it has harmonics and it's not at all like this little 'Romance'. On the other hand, this little 'Romance' although it's not flashy it's so spare, it's really difficult to play.) Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[VIHUELA] Re: 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G
There is very little discussion now on the vihuela list either these days. Perhaps we only really need one lutelist after all. I listened to your Russian piece. Nice, but the sound kept fading away. Keep at it. Monica - Original Message - From: "Stuart Walsh" To: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:02 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] 2 short pieces for seven-string guitar in G Wayne closed down the 'early guitar' discussion list. Reasonably enough: there was no discussion and it wasn't really about the early guitar, but the nineteenth century guitar. So I think this vihuela list has to be the place for little forays into the 19th century. Anyway I've been looking at some music for an instrument simply known as 'seven string guitar' but written like this:семиструнная гитара and better known to non-Russians as the 'Russian' guitar and tuned to a G major chord. There are quite a few videos for the instrument on youtube. Mostly they are gypsy things: very fast and flashy or Russian variation-sets, also very fast and flashy. Big, fast, loud, assertive, very technically proficient performances. So I thought it would be interesting to put up a couple of pieces that are not any of these! Here are two little pieces (amateur performances) 1) (so the music says) a Romance, arranged by V.Sarenko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtrsfN78dY 2) Not knowing Russian beyond the alpahbet I have no idea what this is called. But it's a little tune with two variations. Sychra wrote variation sets which are very challenging but this is an easy one. Still, it's challenging enough for me. I think they had a lot of time on their hands back in the day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZor6IZJag (the Sarenko piece is an oddity. It doesn't sound like other 'Romances' and it doesn't seem much like other pieces by Sarenko and it's not in the (can't remember the spelling) Stellowsky (or however as it is rendered in English) catalogue. It doesn't go higher than the fourth fret. Sarenko wrote a 'romance without words' (if I've got that right) but that Romance has a gliss up to the twelfth fret in the very first bar and it has harmonics and it's not at all like this little 'Romance'. On the other hand, this little 'Romance' although it's not flashy it's so spare, it's really difficult to play.) Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
