[VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus

2010-09-01 Thread Monica Hall
Many thanks to all of you who replied.   I couldn't quite see how the 
grasshopper could produce a string!   But the noise that it makes might 
enhance many a performance!


Monica

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From: "Peter Kooiman" 

To: "Monica Hall" 
Cc: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus


I found an English translation of Strabo's, 6.1.9:


The Halex River, which marks the boundary between the Rhegian and the 
Locrian territories, passes out through a deep ravine; and a peculiar thing 
happens there in connection with the grasshoppers, that although those on 
the Locrian bank sing, the others remain mute. As for the cause of this, it 
is conjectured that on the latter side the region is so densely shaded that 
the grasshoppers, being wet with dew, cannot expand their membranes, whereas 
those on the sunny side have dry and horn-like membranes and therefore can 
easily produce their song. And people used to show in Locri a statue of 
Eunomus, the cithara-bard, with a locust seated on the cithara. Timaeus says 
that Eunomus and Ariston of Rhegium were once contesting with each other at 
the Pythian games and fell to quarrelling about the casting of the lots;so 
Ariston begged the Delphians to cooperate with him, for the reason that his 
ancestors belonged to the god and that the colony had been sent forth from 
there;and although Eunomus said that the Rhegini had absolutely no right 
even to participate in the vocal contests, since in their country even the 
grasshoppers, the sweetest-voiced of all creatures, were mute, Ariston was 
none the less held in favour and hoped for the victory; and yet Eunomus 
gained the victory and set up the aforesaid image in his native land, 
because during the contest, when one of the chords broke, a grasshopper lit 
on his cithara and supplied the missing sound. The interior above these 
cities is held by the Brettii; here is the city Mamertium, and also the 
forest that produces the best pitch, the Brettian. This forest is called 
Sila, is both well wooded and well watered, and is seven hundred stadia in 
length.


Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Kooiman" 
To: "Monica Hall" 
Cc: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 11:43:07 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus

It's from Strabo's Geographika, Strabo in turn attributes the story to 
Timaeos. I only have a German translation, a websearch for "Eunomos" will 
probably yield what you are looking for.


Regards
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Monica Hall" 
To: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 10:57:45 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Euonimo and Aristonus

  Is there anyone familiar with Classical litereature who know of the
  story of Euonimo.   Apparently he was competing with Ariston playing
  the cithara and broke a string (it happens to the best of us).  The
  Gods (all of them?) sent a Cicada (presumably a sort of silkworm) which
  produced such a wonderful string that he won the competition and a
  statue was erected to him.



  Does anyone know where the story comes from?



  Regards



  Monica

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[VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Kooiman
I found an English translation of Strabo's, 6.1.9:


The Halex River, which marks the boundary between the Rhegian and the Locrian 
territories, passes out through a deep ravine; and a peculiar thing happens 
there in connection with the grasshoppers, that although those on the Locrian 
bank sing, the others remain mute. As for the cause of this, it is conjectured 
that on the latter side the region is so densely shaded that the grasshoppers, 
being wet with dew, cannot expand their membranes, whereas those on the sunny 
side have dry and horn-like membranes and therefore can easily produce their 
song. And people used to show in Locri a statue of Eunomus, the cithara-bard, 
with a locust seated on the cithara. Timaeus says that Eunomus and Ariston of 
Rhegium were once contesting with each other at the Pythian games and fell to 
quarrelling about the casting of the lots;so Ariston begged the Delphians to 
cooperate with him, for the reason that his ancestors belonged to the god and 
that the colony had been sent forth from there;and alth!
 ough Eunomus said that the Rhegini had absolutely no right even to participate 
in the vocal contests, since in their country even the grasshoppers, the 
sweetest-voiced of all creatures, were mute, Ariston was none the less held in 
favour and hoped for the victory; and yet Eunomus gained the victory and set up 
the aforesaid image in his native land, because during the contest, when one of 
the chords broke, a grasshopper lit on his cithara and supplied the missing 
sound. The interior above these cities is held by the Brettii; here is the city 
Mamertium, and also the forest that produces the best pitch, the Brettian. This 
forest is called Sila, is both well wooded and well watered, and is seven 
hundred stadia in length.

Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Kooiman" 
To: "Monica Hall" 
Cc: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 11:43:07 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus

It's from Strabo's Geographika, Strabo in turn attributes the story to Timaeos. 
I only have a German translation, a websearch for "Eunomos" will probably yield 
what you are looking for.

Regards 
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Monica Hall" 
To: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 10:57:45 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Euonimo and Aristonus

   Is there anyone familiar with Classical litereature who know of the
   story of Euonimo.   Apparently he was competing with Ariston playing
   the cithara and broke a string (it happens to the best of us).  The
   Gods (all of them?) sent a Cicada (presumably a sort of silkworm) which
   produced such a wonderful string that he won the competition and a
   statue was erected to him.



   Does anyone know where the story comes from?



   Regards



   Monica

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[VIHUELA] Re: Euonimo and Aristonus

2010-08-31 Thread Peter Kooiman
It's from Strabo's Geographika, Strabo in turn attributes the story to Timaeos. 
I only have a German translation, a websearch for "Eunomos" will probably yield 
what you are looking for.

Regards 
Peter

- Original Message -
From: "Monica Hall" 
To: "Vihuelalist" 
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010 10:57:45 PM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Euonimo and Aristonus

   Is there anyone familiar with Classical litereature who know of the
   story of Euonimo.   Apparently he was competing with Ariston playing
   the cithara and broke a string (it happens to the best of us).  The
   Gods (all of them?) sent a Cicada (presumably a sort of silkworm) which
   produced such a wonderful string that he won the competition and a
   statue was erected to him.



   Does anyone know where the story comes from?



   Regards



   Monica

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