RE: VIM Books

2006-12-04 Thread Steve Hall
From: Taylor, Kevin, Mon, December 04, 2006 5:16 pm
 
 I have been using VIM for years to do my development and feel I am a
 competent user. I have done some minor tweaks in my .vimrc but I
 have never written a plugin and very rarely do any scripting in the
 editor. But, I want to take it to the next level. I esp want to
 start scripting functionality (preferrably in VIM 7 via Ruby). 
 
 I also do most of my programming and writing in VIM (other than when
 I am doing Eclipse RCP development).
 
 I remember there being a couple of VIM books out there. Are any
 worth reading for someone like me? Recommendations?

I've found the online help much better than any third-party manual. If
you read:

  :help usr_41
  :help eval
  :help options

you are 90% the way there.


-- 
Steve Hall  [ digitect dancingpaper com ]



Re: VIM Books

2006-12-04 Thread Tim Chase

I have been using VIM for years to do my development and feel
I am a competent user. I have done some minor tweaks in my
.vimrc but I have never written a plugin and very rarely do
any scripting in the editor. But, I want to take it to the
next level. I esp want to start scripting functionality
(preferrably in VIM 7 via Ruby).


It's hard to beat simply diving in with the vim help-files and 
trying your hand at some scripting.  The included help files are 
volumnous in their coverage, even if it can be a bit of a task to 
find the material.  I'd much rather have that problem than not 
have the answer in there at all.


There's also a treasure-trove of example scripts at www.vim.org 
where you can find a handful of ones that sound interesting and 
rip into their guts to see what makes them tick.  You can try 
your hand at tweaking them and see what you can do.


Additionally, when/if you have questions, this list is a very 
welcoming place to try and help you along.



I remember there being a couple of VIM books out there. Are
any worth reading for someone like me? Recommendations?


O'Reilly has _Learning the vi Editor_ and the _vi Pocket 
Reference_ both of which sound like you're past them a bit. 
Perhaps more to your interest would be _Vi IMproved--Vim_ put out 
by New Riders, which focuses specifically on Vim.  I've thumbed 
through all three, reading the parts I found interesting, but 
find that between the help-files and the list, dead-tree (paper) 
books can't keep up with the pace.


Having used Vim for nearly 7 years (and vi before that), there 
are still dark corners of Vim I've never explored.  I don't know 
whether that should encourage or terrify you. :)  But basic 
scripting is easy enough to pick up for anybody who has used 
other programming languages.  Particularly, Vim7 has the nicities 
of list/dictionary data-types that make some previously painful 
operations much less so.


HTH,

-tim





Re: VIM Books

2006-12-04 Thread Jianrong Yu

2006/12/5, Taylor, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I have been using VIM for years to do my development and feel I am a
competent user. I have done some minor tweaks in my .vimrc but I have
never written a plugin and very rarely do any scripting in the editor.
But, I want to take it to the next level. I esp want to start scripting
functionality (preferrably in VIM 7 via Ruby).

I also do most of my programming and writing in VIM (other than when I
am doing Eclipse RCP development).

I remember there being a couple of VIM books out there. Are any worth
reading for someone like me? Recommendations?

TIA.

Kevin Taylor



I have a friend who had started use vim just 2 months ago, but he had written a
set of very nice plugins for id-utilities and tag jump. What he had
learn from is
only the two old plugins: Project and TagList. He said read the
Taglist plugin is
enough to write your own.


Regards.
Yu Jianrong


Re: VIM Books

2006-12-04 Thread C.G.Senthilkumar.

:help usr_41.txt
should get you started.

Hope this helps.
Senthil.

On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Jianrong Yu wrote:


2006/12/5, Taylor, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I have been using VIM for years to do my development and feel I am a
competent user. I have done some minor tweaks in my .vimrc but I have
never written a plugin and very rarely do any scripting in the editor.
But, I want to take it to the next level. I esp want to start scripting
functionality (preferrably in VIM 7 via Ruby).

I also do most of my programming and writing in VIM (other than when I
am doing Eclipse RCP development).

I remember there being a couple of VIM books out there. Are any worth
reading for someone like me? Recommendations?

TIA.

Kevin Taylor