Re: Paste as HTML
>>> What is the added value of marking >>> it as HTML on the clipboard? >>> >> The added value is that you are able to paste the text into a word >> processing program like AbiWord, MS Word or StarWriter in a way that >> the HTML-Tags are not shown, but are interpreted by the word >> processing program in order to format the text as it would be >> formatted in a HTML browser. >> >> To achieve this know, I only see one way: Convert your text to HTML, >> then save it as HTML, open it with a web browser, copy it from here >> into the clipboard and paste it into a word processing program. > > Why don't these programs offer the option "paste as HTML"? I mean, the > user must have a choice if he wants the HTML as text or the resulting > markup. > The windows clipboard can contain one and the same data item several time, each time in a different format. If I for instance copy from an HTML browser, the data is contained there in HTML as well as in plain text format. I assume word processing programs offer only the format option they can find within the clipboard and they can handle with. When Vim copies text into the clipboard, it declares this text as plain text, never as HTML. This is why word processing programs interpret this text as plain text and don't offer the same options as for HTML -- even if the text _is_ HTML. IMHO this is ok: In order to tell to a target application what it can do with the data contained in the clipboard, declare its format and don't assume that the user can do this. Of course I have no doubt that there are only intelligent Vim users. But the world of word processing program is another one ;-) With best regards Mathias Michaelis
Re: Paste as HTML
The end user copies colored formatted text, and when they paste the formatting is preserved. The end user is not aware that HTML was involved in the operation. A confusing point is clients of the HTML clipboard format (CF_HTML) consider this type to be text+formatting for display, not a transport for HTML. If you want to pass an HTML snippet between applications, you'd use CF_TEXT. As per peoples suggestion I'm looking at a a solution that does: ToHTML() w! !copy_to_clipboard_as_html % q Finally, Is the policy if you find functions in tree with mixed tab space usage to ignore it? On 10/21/06, Bram Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why don't these programs offer the option "paste as HTML"? I mean, the user must have a choice if he wants the HTML as text or the resulting markup.
Re: Paste as HTML
Hello Tony >> To achieve this know, I only see one way: Convert your text to HTML, >> then save it as HTML, open it with a web browser, copy it from here >> into the clipboard and paste it into a word processing program. >> > What about opening the HTML file directly as RTF in a word processor? > I guess the original poster wants to insert code snippets into an already existing documentation. Regards Mathias
Re: Paste as HTML
Mathias Michaelis wrote: > > What is the added value of marking > > it as HTML on the clipboard? > > > The added value is that you are able to paste the text into a word > processing program like AbiWord, MS Word or StarWriter in a way that > the HTML-Tags are not shown, but are interpreted by the word > processing program in order to format the text as it would be > formatted in a HTML browser. > > To achieve this know, I only see one way: Convert your text to HTML, > then save it as HTML, open it with a web browser, copy it from here > into the clipboard and paste it into a word processing program. Why don't these programs offer the option "paste as HTML"? I mean, the user must have a choice if he wants the HTML as text or the resulting markup. -- >From "know your smileys": :} You lie like Pinocchio /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A-P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///
Re: Paste as HTML
Mathias Michaelis wrote: Hello * What is the added value of marking it as HTML on the clipboard? The added value is that you are able to paste the text into a word processing program like AbiWord, MS Word or StarWriter in a way that the HTML-Tags are not shown, but are interpreted by the word processing program in order to format the text as it would be formatted in a HTML browser. To achieve this know, I only see one way: Convert your text to HTML, then save it as HTML, open it with a web browser, copy it from here into the clipboard and paste it into a word processing program. With best regards Mathias What about opening the HTML file directly as RTF in a word processor? Best regards, Tony.
Re: Paste as HTML
Hello * > What is the added value of marking > it as HTML on the clipboard? > The added value is that you are able to paste the text into a word processing program like AbiWord, MS Word or StarWriter in a way that the HTML-Tags are not shown, but are interpreted by the word processing program in order to format the text as it would be formatted in a HTML browser. To achieve this know, I only see one way: Convert your text to HTML, then save it as HTML, open it with a web browser, copy it from here into the clipboard and paste it into a word processing program. With best regards Mathias
Re: Paste as HTML
Igor Dvorkin wrote: > Many windows apps support a clipboard pasting format of HTML. This is > how you can copy code in Visual Studio 2005 and paste it into outlook > and see syntax highlighting. > > I recommend something similar be done for VIM. Today, we have toHTML, > that's reasonable, but ideally we'd able to yank as HTML. I've created > a patch that can yank HTML to the clipboard as type HTML. I don't > think this patch should be submitted, instead used by the person > considering this feature request. > > > Ideally this patch will be extended to allow the user to decide to : > > a) yank text , convert it to HTML, and have show up as type HTML. > b) yank HTML, and have it have it show up as type HTML > c) yank text, and have it show up as HTML > > My patch only implements 'b' > > Thoughts? Your patch appears to mostly change indent... With a simple script you can invoke 2html.vim on highlighted text and yank the result into the clipboard. What is the added value of marking it as HTML on the clipboard? -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 86. E-mail Deficiency Depression (EDD) forces you to e-mail yourself. /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A-P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///
Re: Paste as HTML
On 10/21/06, Ilya Bobir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Edward L. Fox wrote: > In my opinion, this kind of work shouldn't be done by hacking the > source code of VIM. You can use a vim script to call the synax > highlighting engine to convert the text into HTML code, and copy the > converted code into the clipboard with a DLL add-on (as we know, GVim > supports 'libcall' well). Maybe copying into the clipboard can be done without a DLL add-on? By using "+ register. I don't think so. "+ register cannot set the clipboard data type, so the text in the clipboard won't be recognized as HTML but pure text.
Re: Paste as HTML
Edward L. Fox wrote: In my opinion, this kind of work shouldn't be done by hacking the source code of VIM. You can use a vim script to call the synax highlighting engine to convert the text into HTML code, and copy the converted code into the clipboard with a DLL add-on (as we know, GVim supports 'libcall' well). Maybe copying into the clipboard can be done without a DLL add-on? By using "+ register.
Re: Paste as HTML
On 10/21/06, Igor Dvorkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Many windows apps support a clipboard pasting format of HTML. This is how you can copy code in Visual Studio 2005 and paste it into outlook and see syntax highlighting. I recommend something similar be done for VIM. Today, we have toHTML, that's reasonable, but ideally we'd able to yank as HTML. I've created a patch that can yank HTML to the clipboard as type HTML. I don't think this patch should be submitted, instead used by the person considering this feature request. In my opinion, this kind of work shouldn't be done by hacking the source code of VIM. You can use a vim script to call the synax highlighting engine to convert the text into HTML code, and copy the converted code into the clipboard with a DLL add-on (as we know, GVim supports 'libcall' well). Ideally this patch will be extended to allow the user to decide to : a) yank text , convert it to HTML, and have show up as type HTML. b) yank HTML, and have it have it show up as type HTML c) yank text, and have it show up as HTML My patch only implements 'b' Thoughts? Regards, Edward L. Fox
Re: Paste as HTML
Igor Dvorkin wrote: Many windows apps support a clipboard pasting format of HTML. This is how you can copy code in Visual Studio 2005 and paste it into outlook and see syntax highlighting. I recommend something similar be done for VIM. Today, we have toHTML, that's reasonable, but ideally we'd able to yank as HTML. I've created a patch that can yank HTML to the clipboard as type HTML. I don't think this patch should be submitted, instead used by the person considering this feature request. Ideally this patch will be extended to allow the user to decide to : a) yank text , convert it to HTML, and have show up as type HTML. b) yank HTML, and have it have it show up as type HTML c) yank text, and have it show up as HTML My patch only implements 'b' Thoughts? My thoughts: - Vim is a text editor, not a WYSIWYG word processor - Vim is multi-platform - ":TOhtml" already works on ranges. IMHO it can be use with no source hacking to do all three of your alternatives, by yanking its output. - Your patch has mixed CR+LF and LF-only ends-of-lines. - I don't see why you converted so many tabs to spaces; it just makes the patch bulkier. Best regards, Tony.
Paste as HTML
Many windows apps support a clipboard pasting format of HTML. This is how you can copy code in Visual Studio 2005 and paste it into outlook and see syntax highlighting. I recommend something similar be done for VIM. Today, we have toHTML, that's reasonable, but ideally we'd able to yank as HTML. I've created a patch that can yank HTML to the clipboard as type HTML. I don't think this patch should be submitted, instead used by the person considering this feature request. Ideally this patch will be extended to allow the user to decide to : a) yank text , convert it to HTML, and have show up as type HTML. b) yank HTML, and have it have it show up as type HTML c) yank text, and have it show up as HTML My patch only implements 'b' Thoughts? paste_html_to_clipboard_win32.diff Description: Binary data
