upgrading vim on linux
I seem to have a problem where I want to upgrade my version of gvim for linux but am somewhat confused by the site there seems to be a vim-7.1.tar.bz2 but I have no idea what a bz2 file is and the site doesn't explain it (that I can find...). so I tried to use vim-6.4-src1.tar.gz and vim-6.4-src2.tar.gz and untar'ed them. according to the site you need to type "make install" and everything will work (assuming a c compiler and such...) but unfortunately, I couldn't find a "makefile" Not sure why this couldn't be setup to be as easy as installing gvim for my windows box... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading vim on linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I seem to have a problem where I want to upgrade my version of gvim > for linux but am somewhat confused by the site > > there seems to be a vim-7.1.tar.bz2 but I have no idea what a bz2 > file is and the site doesn't explain it (that I can find...). > > so I tried to use vim-6.4-src1.tar.gz and vim-6.4-src2.tar.gz and > untar'ed them. > according to the site you need to type "make install" and everything > will work (assuming a c compiler and such...) but unfortunately, I > couldn't find a "makefile" > > Not sure why this couldn't be setup to be as easy as installing gvim > for my windows box... > bunzip2 vim-7.1.tar.bz2 tar -xf vim-7.1.tar cd vim71 configure make make install Regards, Chip Campbell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading vim on linux
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Charles E Campbell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I seem to have a problem where I want to upgrade my version of gvim > > for linux but am somewhat confused by the site > > > > there seems to be a vim-7.1.tar.bz2 but I have no idea what a bz2 > > file is and the site doesn't explain it (that I can find...). > > > > so I tried to use vim-6.4-src1.tar.gz and vim-6.4-src2.tar.gz and > > untar'ed them. > > according to the site you need to type "make install" and everything > > will work (assuming a c compiler and such...) but unfortunately, I > > couldn't find a "makefile" > > > > Not sure why this couldn't be setup to be as easy as installing gvim > > for my windows box... > > > bunzip2 vim-7.1.tar.bz2 > tar -xf vim-7.1.tar > cd vim71 > configure > make > make install I find the method using aap much simpler: http://www.a-a-p.org/ports.html It downloads all patches automatically. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading vim on linux
Charles E Campbell Jr wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I seem to have a problem where I want to upgrade my version of gvim >> for linux but am somewhat confused by the site >> >> there seems to be a vim-7.1.tar.bz2 but I have no idea what a bz2 >> file is and the site doesn't explain it (that I can find...). >> >> so I tried to use vim-6.4-src1.tar.gz and vim-6.4-src2.tar.gz and >> untar'ed them. >> according to the site you need to type "make install" and everything >> will work (assuming a c compiler and such...) but unfortunately, I >> couldn't find a "makefile" >> >> Not sure why this couldn't be setup to be as easy as installing gvim >> for my windows box... >> > bunzip2 vim-7.1.tar.bz2 > tar -xf vim-7.1.tar > cd vim71 > configure > make > make install > > Regards, > Chip Campbell For more details (and a full step-by-step procedure the way I use it to keep Vim up-to-date on Linux) see http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compunix.htm One reason it's more complex on Linux is that there are a lot different Linux (and Unix) distributions, with nonuniform conventions as to where the runtime libraries are placed; also users have much more freedom about which software packages they want to install -- or not. You could say that the number of "possible" Unix/Linux systems is unbounded. Windows, OTOH, is distributed only by Microsoft, or at least, in a form strictly controlled by Microsoft. Compare the one CD or DVD for a given version of Windows with the plethora of CDs, DVDs, or online downloads released at approximately the same time by Red-Hat-Fedora, Novell-SuSE, Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Mandriva, what-have-you. So, before we actually compile, we run a configure "program" to find out what software is sitting on the machine, where it is located, combine that with your configure options (such as --with-features=huge --enable-perlinterp etc.), and create a configure.mk which will be included by the src/Makefile invoked by the top-level Vim Makefile (Makefile, not makefile: case is significant in Unix/Linux filenames). This configure step also has advantages: you could say that it has the qualities of its defaults: it allows (almost) common treatment for not only various Linux distributions but also Unix and Unix-like systems which have nothing to do with Linux, such as BeOS, FreeBSD, even Mac-OS-X and VAX/VMS. The differences between all these only approximately similar systems are resolved at configure time with only very limited manual intervention. OTOH, when compiling for Windows, different Makefiles are needed to cater for something as elementary as different C compilers, hence the various Make_cyg.mak, Make_bc5.mak, Make_bc3.mak, Make_ming.mac, Make_mvc.mak, Make_w16.mak... Best regards, Tony. -- Overflow on /dev/null, please empty the bit bucket. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading vim on linux
Tony Mechelynck wrote: > > This configure step also has advantages: you could say that it has the > qualities of its defaults: it allows (almost) common treatment for not > only various Linux distributions but also Unix and Unix-like systems > which have nothing to do with Linux, such as BeOS, FreeBSD, even > Mac-OS-X and VAX/VMS. The differences between all these only > approximately similar systems... Hello, Tony! Good explanation -- but (you knew that was coming!) vax/vms is pretty unlike unix. It falls into the totally dissimilar category (ie. not unix-like). For example, paths: [this.is.a.path]filename.ext ~ /this/is/a/path/filename.ext . The Amiga is another dissimilar o/s, but I'd say its more similar to unix that vax/vms is. Anyway, to continue with Tony's point: the build & compile process is sufficiently flexible to handle totally dissimilar-to-unix operating systems such as AmigaDos and Vax/Vms. Regards, Chip Campbell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading vim on linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tuesday, 4. March 2008: > > Not sure why this couldn't be setup to be as easy as installing gvim > for my windows box... What Linux distribution do you use? Isn't there an up-to-date version of Vim available within your package manager? That's the normal way for end-users to install software and this is by far easier and more comfortable than installing software on Windows. Markus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
