Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
Den 2015-10-19 kl. 18:52, skrev Paul: > For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not > recognized as spelling error. That's because it "is a word" (an expression which I find rather silly) according to major dictionaries, although labeled archaic by most of them.[1] For example: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fictious> > It doesn't exist in my en.utf-8.add, and I double-checked by > mkspell!'ing it. I know that I have the right spell file due to other > changes I made (and whose effect I see in the main text file that I'm > spellchecking). I did a "zw" on the word, but it still isn't > recognized as an error. Here it is flagged as wrong without any custom spellfile loaded, and I have certainly not done `zw` or `Zw` on it. From your other messages it seems something is amiss with the spell check feature for you. > Thanks to anyone who can point out how I can troubleshoot this > further. `zw` if you get it working, or `:SubstituteCase#\cfictious#fictitious#g` (www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=6) [1] (This long footnote is mostly on the linguistic issue, so the topicality-fastidious should not read it!) Of course you decide which words _you_ want or don't want to use, but please don't assume that your preferences are universal without checking (googling, but don't trust any dictionary blindly!). What is a spelling error to some may be an archaism to others, and a distinction in meaning to still others. That's why vim has and must have `zg`, `zw` and friends. There is no silver bullet, least of all where English is concerned. Countries, universities, newspapers publishers, dictionaries, wordlists and individuals all have more or less different 'standards'/preferences. The vim spellfiles for English contain American, British etc. spellings _at the same time_, marking any spelling as correct which was in some wordlist used as input. That means that many spellings and words which are 'wrong', 'bad' or 'nonexisting' to _some_ English speakers/users are recognised as 'good' by them. If it were up to me there would be different en_us, en_gb, en_ox etc. spellfiles only. For professional reasons I have had to build those myself (based on SCOWL: <http://wordlist.aspell.net/>) for reliable results. I am not a native speaker but I have translated to and from English for a living and read almost exclusively English literature in the original for almost twenty years, so I daresay I am a proficient user and I have my privately preferred spellings (and wordlists to go with them), but professionally I'm usually required to use _either_ general British, Oxford or American 'standard' spellings in each project. On the wordness of the specific word: to me at least "fictious" and "fictitious" differ in the degree to which they imply that someone wishes to deceive or someone is deluded respectively. That may be my idiosyncratic notion, but it is real to me. For the record "fictional" and "fictive" mean two yet other, different things. By the way "recognized" is if not an "error" then a bad spelling in _my_ book. That does not mean that I want to impose my preference on you or anybody. I understand how those who invented that spelling thought, but I vehemently disagree because it is unetymological. Vim's bundled word list is no help: it accepts _both_ "recognise" and "recognize", which most certainly is wrong by anybody's standard. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:46 PM, BPJ <b...@melroch.se> wrote: > Den 2015-10-19 kl. 18:52, skrev Paul: > >> For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not >> recognized as spelling error. > > That's because it "is a word" (an expression which I find rather silly) > according to major dictionaries, although labeled archaic by most of > them.[1] For example: > > <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fictious> [...] This site is accessible only by subscription, however anyone could read definitions for two meanings of the word (both flagged as "obsolete") at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fictious Best regards, Tony. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 4:47:31 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:
>I wrote:
>> Oddly enough, I'm now getting into a mode wherein *no* words are
>> flagged as spelling errors. Except for solitary "s". That is,
>> unless I turn off syntax highlighting using ":syntax off". But
>> then, all LaTeX commands, arguments, tags, labels, and equations
>> get flagged as error. I slightly mitigated some of this using Dr.
>> Chip's tex.vim
>> (http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#SYNTAX_TEX), but
>> not by much.
>>
>> How do LaTeX/vim useres deal with this? Right now, it seems that
>> saving the resulting PDF as docx and using Word is the only way to
>> go, but that's really not right.
>
> Here is a solution that worked for me:
>
>:syn sync fromstart
>
> See
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23353009/vim-spellcheck-not-always-working-in-tex-file-check-region-in-vim.
>
> I also found LaTeX add-in suites for vim, but getting to know a
> whole new environment is not a practical solution for me at this
> point, especially considering that the problem is very specific.
Actually, it isn't quite a complete solution, either. As a test, I
issued a "zw" on the valid word "fictitious", and it is became marked
as a spelling error as desired, but only outside of the optional
argument to \caption[optional argument]{Mandatory argument}.
I can, of course, do ":syntax off", which causes "fictitious" to be
marked as an error (as desired), but then I get all the false
positives from the LaTeX keywords, commands, labels, etc.
I never suspected that spell-checking a LaTeX file could be such a
mine field.
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Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
Oddly enough, I'm now getting into a mode wherein *no* words are flagged as spelling errors. Except for solitary "s". That is, unless I turn off syntax highlighting using ":syntax off". But then, all LaTeX commands, arguments, tags, labels, and equations get flagged as error. I slightly mitigated some of this using Dr. Chip's tex.vim (http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#SYNTAX_TEX), but not by much. How do LaTeX/vim useres deal with this? Right now, it seems that saving the resulting PDF as docx and using Word is the only way to go, but that's really not right. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
I wrote: > Oddly enough, I'm now getting into a mode wherein *no* words are > flagged as spelling errors. Except for solitary "s". That is, > unless I turn off syntax highlighting using ":syntax off". But > then, all LaTeX commands, arguments, tags, labels, and equations get > flagged as error. I slightly mitigated some of this using Dr. Chip's > tex.vim (http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#SYNTAX_TEX), > but not by much. > > How do LaTeX/vim useres deal with this? Right now, it seems that > saving the resulting PDF as docx and using Word is the only way to > go, but that's really not right. Here is a solution that worked for me: :syn sync fromstart See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23353009/vim-spellcheck-not-always-working-in-tex-file-check-region-in-vim. I also found LaTeX add-in suites for vim, but getting to know a whole new environment is not a practical solution for me at this point, especially considering that the problem is very specific. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 3:29:53 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote: > I don't have the above named directory. My gvim is the one from > cygwin: > >VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled May 20 2015 22:20:54) >Included patches: 1-729 >Compiled by >Huge version with GTK2 GUI. Features included (+) or not (-): >+acl -ebcdic +localmap+printer +title >+arabic +emacs_tags +lua/dyn +profile > +toolbar >+autocmd +eval+menu+python/dyn > +user_commands >+balloon_eval+ex_extra+mksession +python3/dyn > +vertsplit >+browse +extra_search+modify_fname+quickfix > +virtualedit >++builtin_terms +farsi +mouse +reltime +visual >+byte_offset +file_in_path+mouseshape +rightleft > +visualextra >+cindent +find_in_path+mouse_dec +ruby/dyn > +viminfo >+clientserver+float -mouse_gpm +scrollbind > +vreplace >+clipboard +folding -mouse_jsbterm +signs > +wildignore >+cmdline_compl -footer +mouse_netterm +smartindent > +wildmenu >+cmdline_hist+fork() +mouse_sgr -sniff > +windows >+cmdline_info+gettext -mouse_sysmouse +startuptime > +writebackup >+comments-hangul_input+mouse_urxvt +statusline +X11 >+conceal +iconv +mouse_xterm -sun_workshop > -xfontset >+cryptv +insert_expand +multi_byte +syntax +xim >+cscope +jumplist+multi_lang +tag_binary > +xsmp_interact >+cursorbind +keymap -mzscheme+tag_old_static > +xterm_clipboard >+cursorshape +langmap +netbeans_intg -tag_any_white > -xterm_save >+dialog_con_gui +libcall +path_extra -tcl +xpm >+diff+linebreak +perl/dyn+terminfo >+digraphs+lispindent +persistent_undo +termresponse >+dnd +listcmds+postscript +textobjects >system vimrc file: "$VIM/vimrc" > user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc" >2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc" > user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc" >system gvimrc file: "$VIM/gvimrc" > user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc" >2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc" > system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim" >fall-back for $VIM: "/etc" >f-b for $VIMRUNTIME: "/usr/share/vim/vim74" <...snip...> > I used cygwin's bash to find something like a dict directory, but > the only ones that turn up are LaTeX related: > >find / \( -path /c -o -path /cygdrive -prune \) -o -name dict \ >2>&1 | tee ~/tmp/find.out > >/cygdrive >/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/glossaries/dict >/c > > I'm not sure how the files in that directory are used, but I strongly > suspect that it isn't used by vim. > > As for "zw" creating an entry in the spellfile designated as a wrong > wordit doesn't show up as wrong even after "mkspell! > en.utf-8.add". And as I said, I confirmed that changes to > en.utf-8.add take effect by adding words to it and seeing them being > no longer flagged as wrong in the main LaTeX file being edited. It doesn't matter whether I copy the resulting en.utf-8.add.spl ~/.vim/spell (which is where vim creates en.utf-8.add.spl by default. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
Tim Chase <v...@tim.thechases.com> writes: > On 2015-10-19 09:52, Paul wrote: >> For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not >> recognized as spelling error. > > Not sure what OS you're on or what system dictionary you're using, > but that word/spelling is present in my > > /usr/share/dict/american-english-insane > > which may be your system dictionary (at least on Debian, each > dictionary is dropped in with a reasonable name, > then /usr/share/dict/words is a symlink to the administrator's chosen > dictionary). Vim's normal behavior is that you can press zw to add an entry to your personal dictionary which will appear in the file as e.g. "fictious/!" to mean that it is a bad word no matter what the global dictionary says. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 2:19:12 PM UTC-4, Random832 wrote: >Tim Chase writes: >> On 2015-10-19 09:52, Paul wrote: >>> For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not >>> recognized as spelling error. >> >> Not sure what OS you're on or what system dictionary you're using, >> but that word/spelling is present in my >> >> /usr/share/dict/american-english-insane >> >> which may be your system dictionary (at least on Debian, each >> dictionary is dropped in with a reasonable name, then >> /usr/share/dict/words is a symlink to the administrator's chosen >> dictionary). > > Vim's normal behavior is that you can press zw to add an entry to > your personal dictionary which will appear in the file as e.g. > "fictious/!" to mean that it is a bad word no matter what the global > dictionary says. I don't have the above named directory. My gvim is the one from cygwin: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled May 20 2015 22:20:54) Included patches: 1-729 Compiled by Huge version with GTK2 GUI. Features included (+) or not (-): +acl -ebcdic +localmap+printer +title +arabic +emacs_tags +lua/dyn +profile +toolbar +autocmd +eval+menu+python/dyn +user_commands +balloon_eval+ex_extra+mksession +python3/dyn +vertsplit +browse +extra_search+modify_fname+quickfix +virtualedit ++builtin_terms +farsi +mouse +reltime +visual +byte_offset +file_in_path+mouseshape +rightleft +visualextra +cindent +find_in_path+mouse_dec +ruby/dyn+viminfo +clientserver+float -mouse_gpm +scrollbind +vreplace +clipboard +folding -mouse_jsbterm +signs +wildignore +cmdline_compl -footer +mouse_netterm +smartindent +wildmenu +cmdline_hist+fork() +mouse_sgr -sniff +windows +cmdline_info+gettext -mouse_sysmouse +startuptime +writebackup +comments-hangul_input+mouse_urxvt +statusline +X11 +conceal +iconv +mouse_xterm -sun_workshop-xfontset +cryptv +insert_expand +multi_byte +syntax +xim +cscope +jumplist+multi_lang +tag_binary +xsmp_interact +cursorbind +keymap -mzscheme+tag_old_static +xterm_clipboard +cursorshape +langmap +netbeans_intg -tag_any_white -xterm_save +dialog_con_gui +libcall +path_extra -tcl +xpm +diff+linebreak +perl/dyn+terminfo +digraphs+lispindent +persistent_undo +termresponse +dnd +listcmds+postscript +textobjects system vimrc file: "$VIM/vimrc" user vimrc file: "$HOME/.vimrc" 2nd user vimrc file: "~/.vim/vimrc" user exrc file: "$HOME/.exrc" system gvimrc file: "$VIM/gvimrc" user gvimrc file: "$HOME/.gvimrc" 2nd user gvimrc file: "~/.vim/gvimrc" system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME/menu.vim" fall-back for $VIM: "/etc" f-b for $VIMRUNTIME: "/usr/share/vim/vim74" Compilation: gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFEAT_GUI_GTK -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng16-ggdb -O2 -pipe -Wimplicit-function-declaration -fdebug-prefix-map=/usr/src/ports/vim/vim-7.4.729-2.x86_64/build=/usr/src/debug/vim-7.4.729-2 -fdebug-prefix-map=/usr/src/ports/vim/vim-7.4.729-2.x86_64/src/vim74=/usr/src/debug/vim-7.4.729-2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1 Linking: gcc -L. -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,--as-needed -o vim.exe -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -latk-1.0 -lcairo -lz -lGL -lpixman-1 -lEGL -lm -lpthread -lGL -lm -lpthread -lXdamage -lXfixes -lX11-xcb -lxcb-glx -lxcb-shm -lxcb-render -lXrender -lXext -lX11 -lxcb -lXau -lXdmcp -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpng16 -lm -lz -lgio-2.0 -lz -lpangoft2-1.0 -lharfbuzz -lpango-1.0 -lm -lgmodule-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lffi -lglib-2.0 -lintl -lpcre -lintl -liconv -lpcre -lfontconfig -lexpat -lfreetype -lbz2 -lz -lpng16 -l
Re: "fictious" not recognized as spelling error
On 2015-10-19 09:52, Paul wrote: > For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not > recognized as spelling error. Not sure what OS you're on or what system dictionary you're using, but that word/spelling is present in my /usr/share/dict/american-english-insane which may be your system dictionary (at least on Debian, each dictionary is dropped in with a reasonable name, then /usr/share/dict/words is a symlink to the administrator's chosen dictionary). -tim -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
"fictious" not recognized as spelling error
For a reason that I haven't been able to suss out, "fictious" not recognized as spelling error. It doesn't exist in my en.utf-8.add, and I double-checked by mkspell!'ing it. I know that I have the right spell file due to other changes I made (and whose effect I see in the main text file that I'm spellchecking). I did a "zw" on the word, but it still isn't recognized as an error. Thanks to anyone who can point out how I can troubleshoot this further. -- -- You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_use" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_use+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
