Re: default.vim getting sourced even when vimrc is present

2016-11-08 Thread Karthick Gururaj 
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Ken Takata  wrote:
>
> Hi Karthick,
>
> 2016/11/7 Mon 22:24:03 UTC+9 Karthick wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> > I just installed the 80-069 version of the MS-Windows Vim installer. I see 
> > the scrolloff option is being set to "5" due to defaults.vim getting 
> > sourced.
>
> (snip)
>
> > In my case, $VIM/_vimrc file *is* present, still defaults.vim is getting 
> > sourced.
> >
> >
> > Maybe even more strangely, defaults.vim is getting sourced even if I do a,
> >
> > :let skip_defaults_vim=1
> > In the last line of my $VIM/_vimrc file
>
> Don't you source vimrc_example.vim from your _vimrc file?
> If so it might happen, because vimrc_example.vim sources defaults.vim.
> In that case, setting skip_defaults_vim in the last line has no meaning,
> because it is already sourced.

Thanks - that was the problem. I ran scriptnames as Bram suggested and
it showed _vimrc followed by vimrc_example.vim and then defaults.vim.

I moved from Vim 7.4 to Vim 8.0 and then soon to the 80-069 version. I
see now from documentation that defaults.vim was introduced in Vim
8.0, which explains why I didn't face this problem earlier.

Just to clarify, most of the defaults work fine for me, except the
value of scrolloff. I have reverted it back to zero in my vimrc now.

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Re: default.vim getting sourced even when vimrc is present

2016-11-07 Thread Ken Takata 
Hi Karthick,

2016/11/7 Mon 22:24:03 UTC+9 Karthick wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I just installed the 80-069 version of the MS-Windows Vim installer. I see 
> the scrolloff option is being set to "5" due to defaults.vim getting sourced.

(snip)

> In my case, $VIM/_vimrc file *is* present, still defaults.vim is getting 
> sourced.
> 
> 
> Maybe even more strangely, defaults.vim is getting sourced even if I do a,
> 
> :let skip_defaults_vim=1
> In the last line of my $VIM/_vimrc file

Don't you source vimrc_example.vim from your _vimrc file?
If so it might happen, because vimrc_example.vim sources defaults.vim.
In that case, setting skip_defaults_vim in the last line has no meaning,
because it is already sourced.

Regards,
Ken Takata

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Re: default.vim getting sourced even when vimrc is present

2016-11-07 Thread Bram Moolenaar 

Karthick Gururaj wrote:

> I just installed the 80-069 version of the MS-Windows Vim installer. I see
> the scrolloff option is being set to "5" due to defaults.vim getting
> sourced.
> 
> :verbose set scrolloff?
> Shows,
>scrolloff=5
>   Last set from C:\Program Files (x86)\Vim\vim80\defaults.vim

[...]

> In my case, $VIM/_vimrc file *is* present, still defaults.vim is getting
> sourced.
> 
> Maybe even more strangely, defaults.vim is getting sourced even if I do a,
> :let skip_defaults_vim=1
> In the last line of my $VIM/_vimrc file

Can you check the output of ":scriptnames" and see what comes before
defaults.vim?

Looking at the code, if that $VIM/_vimrc file is found it should not
load defaults.vim.

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default.vim getting sourced even when vimrc is present

2016-11-07 Thread Karthick Gururaj 
Hello all,

I just installed the 80-069 version of the MS-Windows Vim installer. I see
the scrolloff option is being set to "5" due to defaults.vim getting
sourced.

:verbose set scrolloff?
Shows,
   scrolloff=5
  Last set from C:\Program Files (x86)\Vim\vim80\defaults.vim

:version
VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 (2016 Sep 12, compiled Nov  6 2016 17:20:44)
MS-Windows 32-bit GUI version with OLE support
Included patches: 1-69
Compiled by mool@tororo
Huge version with GUI.  Features included (+) or not (-):
+acl+eval   +mouse  +syntax
+arabic +ex_extra   +mouseshape +tag_binary
+autocmd+extra_search   +multi_byte_ime/dyn +tag_old_static
+balloon_eval   +farsi  +multi_lang -tag_any_white
+browse +file_in_path   -mzscheme   +tcl/dyn
++builtin_terms +find_in_path   +netbeans_intg  -termguicolors
+byte_offset+float  +num64  -tgetent
+channel+folding+ole-termresponse
+cindent-footer +packages   +textobjects
+clientserver   +gettext/dyn+path_extra +timers
+clipboard  -hangul_input   +perl/dyn   +title
+cmdline_compl  +iconv/dyn  +persistent_undo+toolbar
+cmdline_hist   +insert_expand  -postscript +user_commands
+cmdline_info   +job+printer+vertsplit
+comments   +jumplist   +profile+virtualedit
+conceal+keymap +python/dyn +visual
+cryptv +lambda +python3/dyn+visualextra
+cscope +langmap+quickfix   +viminfo
+cursorbind +libcall+reltime+vreplace
+cursorshape+linebreak  +rightleft  +wildignore
+dialog_con_gui +lispindent +ruby/dyn   +wildmenu
+diff   +listcmds   +scrollbind +windows
+digraphs   +localmap   +signs  +writebackup
+directx-lua+smartindent-xfontset
-dnd+menu   +startuptime-xim
-ebcdic +mksession  +statusline +xpm_w32
+emacs_tags +modify_fname   -sun_workshop   -xterm_save
   system vimrc file: "$VIM\vimrc"
 user vimrc file: "$HOME\_vimrc"
 2nd user vimrc file: "$HOME\vimfiles\vimrc"
 3rd user vimrc file: "$VIM\_vimrc"
  user exrc file: "$HOME\_exrc"
  2nd user exrc file: "$VIM\_exrc"
  system gvimrc file: "$VIM\gvimrc"
user gvimrc file: "$HOME\_gvimrc"
2nd user gvimrc file: "$HOME\vimfiles\gvimrc"
3rd user gvimrc file: "$VIM\_gvimrc"
   defaults file: "$VIMRUNTIME\defaults.vim"
system menu file: "$VIMRUNTIME\menu.vim"
Compilation: cl -c /W3 /nologo  -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_PATHDEF -DWIN32
 -DFEAT_CSCOPE -DFEAT_NETBEANS_INTG -DFEAT_JOB_CHANNEL   -DFEAT_XPM_W32
-DWINVER=0x0501 -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x0501  /Fo.\ObjGXOLYHTRi386/ /Ox /GL
-DNDEBUG  /Zl /MT -DFEAT_OLE -DFEAT_MBYTE_IME -DDYNAMIC_IME -DFEAT_GUI_W32
-DFEAT_DIRECTX -DDYNAMIC_DIRECTX -DDYNAMIC_ICONV -DDYNAMIC_GETTEXT
-DFEAT_TCL -DDYNAMIC_TCL -DDYNAMIC_TCL_DLL=\"tcl86.dll\"
-DDYNAMIC_TCL_VER=\"8.6\" -DFEAT_PYTHON -DDYNAMIC_PYTHON
-DDYNAMIC_PYTHON_DLL=\"python27.dll\" -DFEAT_PYTHON3 -DDYNAMIC_PYTHON3
-DDYNAMIC_PYTHON3_DLL=\"python35.dll\" -DFEAT_PERL -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
-DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DDYNAMIC_PERL -DDYNAMIC_PERL_DLL=\"perl524.dll\"
-DFEAT_RUBY -DDYNAMIC_RUBY -DDYNAMIC_RUBY_VER=22
-DDYNAMIC_RUBY_DLL=\"msvcrt-ruby220.dll\" -DFEAT_HUGE /Fd.\ObjGXOLYHTRi386/
/Zi
Linking: link /RELEASE /nologo /subsystem:windows /LTCG:STATUS oldnames.lib
kernel32.lib advapi32.lib shell32.lib gdi32.lib  comdlg32.lib ole32.lib
uuid.lib /machine:i386 gdi32.lib version.lib   winspool.lib comctl32.lib
advapi32.lib shell32.lib  /machine:i386 /nodefaultlib libcmt.lib
oleaut32.lib user32.lib /nodefaultlib:python27.lib
/nodefaultlib:python35.lib   "E:\tcl\lib\tclstub86.lib" WSock32.lib
xpm\x86\lib\libXpm.lib /PDB:gvim.pdb -debug

In my case, $VIM/_vimrc file *is* present, still defaults.vim is getting
sourced.

Maybe even more strangely, defaults.vim is getting sourced even if I do a,
:let skip_defaults_vim=1
In the last line of my $VIM/_vimrc file

- Karthick

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