RE: Soldering Station - was: Are my 2 Powerbook 100 only for the trashcan?
Thanks to everyone for their input. After some digging around, I stumbled into a clone of the Hakko 936, the Yihua 936... Found a youtube comparison of the two, and while not quite as refined, I think it will do fine. I found it for $16 (plus $14 shipping) at http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=19240 Apparently it will use the Hakko tips, as well as those from Radio Shack. I'll report back once I've used it some, but sounds like it will suit my purposes just fine. Also, if anyone is going to order one, open up the page and let it sit there for a while. I had an extra browser tab open and after ordering, came back to that tab and it said something along the lines of we noticed you've been sitting here a while and offered a one-time shot at buying it for about $1 less. Grumble, grumble...oh well. Thanks again to all! Wesley _ From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-macs@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of theonetruestick...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:08 AM To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Soldering Station - was: Are my 2 Powerbook 100 only for the trashcan? If you're going to spend $70 on an iron anyway and plan to do a bit of soldering the triple-8, or a comparable iron, is the way to go. I think the Weller WES51 is pretty similar, though I've not read up on it, and it may have better tip selection.You might also be able to find a good deal on a used Hakko 936 if you hunt around, those were the precursor to the FX-888 and were also pretty good. Stickman -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.
The LEM Swap List or Ebay can be sources for good 800k blank disks. The Apple Old Software website offers System 6.0.8 boot and/or install floppies in 800k size. You have to have the right version of Disk Copy to turn the files into floppy-sized images. And, if it all just frustrates you too much, one of the listers here could send you disks if all you wanted to do was boot your SE to play with it. To move ahead with the hard drives, the SE likes it's hard drives formatted with a 2:1 interleave. 2 spins to one read. If the hard drives you're trying to use were in newer Macs, then that can cause an unseen hard drive. And yes, it's a little easier to solve the hard drive problems with a newer Mac as opposed to fighting the third-party utility file sizes in 800k of disk space. Many newer Macs have SCSI external connectors for external hard drive use. And these machines have 1.4MB floppy drives allowing you to use more new-ish drive erasing utilities like Lido 7.56. If you search, you'll find old removable drive utilities like Micronet that will format and mount a SCSI hard drive. There's HDT Toolkit for SCSI hard drives. Norton Utilities 1.x and 2.x forSCSI hard drives. All-in-all, I would plug in the Conner to AC power and listen for it to start spinning and stay spinning. If it won't do that, none of the above will matter. Jeff From: Triston Mccarthy moogleboogle...@gmail.com To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Non -apple hard disk drives. By the way it already has two internal 800k drives. which is why I cant use any third party software right now as I cannot make my own. Getting on the internet with my 26 year old mac is possible yet not probable. From: Triston Mccarthy moogleboogle...@gmail.com To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Non -apple hard disk drives. I have a non apple version of the quantum pro drive lps 270s. It still works and I have tested it but in an external enclosure the drive will not work with my Macintosh SE. I also have a Connor CP3040a I tried it in the enclosure it did work but only for about 5 minutes after that it just completely crapped out and wouldn't re initialize. I would assume I probably needs a non Apple Hard Disk Utility to actually connect the drive and be able to mount it. You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/vintage-macs/MCgf3kxFNE8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.
I will NOT recommend anyone do this. While tech-ing old Macs in the 90s I was the grounding point for the discharge of the voltage from a 9 inch black and white glass Cathode Ray Tube's flyback transformer. It was like holding the sparkplug wire from your lawnmower while your friend pulled the starter cord. No major damage. Just surprise. Different people handle high voltages differently. THIS IS N-O-T A CALL TO TRY THIS IN YOUR OWN HOME, LIST MEMBERS. Jeff From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Non -apple hard disk drives. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:49 PM, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: DO NOT GET NEAR THE PAPER/ELECTRIC PLUG ON THE BACK OF THE PICTURE TUBE. Oh, it only throws you across the room, blacks you out for a few seconds, and leaves your fingers oddly numb for a few hours . . . Not that I ever found myself slumped against the couch on the other side of the office with the staff suddenly there after reaching in, figuring that I'd disconnected the back of the tube, and it bizarrely slipping my mind that the HV is on the sides . . . No, not me. And I suppose it could really do bad things to a pacemaker . . . and might just plain be bad for a heart . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.
Hence as a rarity the warning labels were genuine. Richard Darner A D Land Minerals, Inc. 6001 W. Parmer Lane Suite 370-103 Austin, Texas 78727 (210) 837-2695 rhdar...@yahoo.com On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:12 PM, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: I will NOT recommend anyone do this. While tech-ing old Macs in the 90s I was the grounding point for the discharge of the voltage from a 9 inch black and white glass Cathode Ray Tube's flyback transformer. It was like holding the sparkplug wire from your lawnmower while your friend pulled the starter cord. No major damage. Just surprise. Different people handle high voltages differently. THIS IS N-O-T A CALL TO TRY THIS IN YOUR OWN HOME, LIST MEMBERS. Jeff From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Non -apple hard disk drives. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:49 PM, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: DO NOT GET NEAR THE PAPER/ELECTRIC PLUG ON THE BACK OF THE PICTURE TUBE. Oh, it only throws you across the room, blacks you out for a few seconds, and leaves your fingers oddly numb for a few hours . . . Not that I ever found myself slumped against the couch on the other side of the office with the staff suddenly there after reaching in, figuring that I'd disconnected the back of the tube, and it bizarrely slipping my mind that the HV is on the sides . . . No, not me. And I suppose it could really do bad things to a pacemaker . . . and might just plain be bad for a heart . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.
On Sat, 8/17/13, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: To move ahead with the hard drives, the SE likes it's hard drives formatted with a 2:1 interleave. 2 spins to one read. If the hard drives you're trying to use were in newer Macs, then that can cause an unseen hard drive. - That's only for old drives that don't have onboard cache RAM. Somewhere out there is an old formatting utility with selections for Mac Plus at 4:1, SE at 2:1 and 1:1 for all others. Formatting a drive with a cache at anything other than 2:1 interleave can make its read and write performance slower. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Non -apple hard disk drives.
I own that utility in my pile of floppies, I think. I fear the problem is with the Conner hard drive, which are nearly all not well enough made for use all these years away from their dates of manufature. But all possibilities have to be run through until the one that finds the true reason for the drive being invisible is uncovered. Jeff From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Non -apple hard disk drives. On Sat, 8/17/13, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: To move ahead with the hard drives, the SE likes it's hard drives formatted with a 2:1 interleave. 2 spins to one read. If the hard drives you're trying to use were in newer Macs, then that can cause an unseen hard drive. - That's only for old drives that don't have onboard cache RAM. Somewhere out there is an old formatting utility with selections for Mac Plus at 4:1, SE at 2:1 and 1:1 for all others. Formatting a drive with a cache at anything other than 2:1 interleave can make its read and write performance slower. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Yikes video problem that might be a known issue
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 4:05 AM, J.S. Garrison garriso...@yahoo.com wrote: Now, with the G4/G5 Apples being herded away from practical use by the Adobe Flash issue and no newer Web Browser makers, except, arguably, Classilla for those Macs that can run OS 9, it would seem right and logical to include G4/G5 Macs in the Vintage category. There's a G-List for the G3-G5 Macs... I wouldn't consider them vintage, because they can all run some flavor of OS X, which was a pretty big step for the Apple family. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- - You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to vintage-macs@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Vintage Macs group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintage-macs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
