Mac Plus Plethora of Problems

[Wesley Furr]

I recently acquired a Mac Plus from an old friend...it was her parent's and
I gather was used for many years. Unfortunately, looks like it got stored in
the basement or something and has acquired a bit of mildew...but just
sitting around problem is half of its problems...where shall I begin...

The external Lacie hard drive (with a Quantum Prodrive ELS) is dead. I
whacked on it (and may have killed it) trying to get it going...ultimately
pulled the cover and tried the head move trick...it will seek back and forth
a few times, then spin down anyway. I've written that part off...

I used an LCII to create a System 6.0.8 boot disk and it booted up just
fine. Once. Now it spins, heads seek, then it stops spinning. Pauses, spins,
seeks, then stops again...disk icon on the screen goes to an X when it
stops, then normal looking as it tries again, wash, rinse, repeat. Could
this be as simple as needing a head cleaning? The disk still works fine in
the LCII. I also plugged in an external Apple 3.5 disk drive and it boots
fine on that as well. Any other maintenance that might need to be done on
the drive? I don't yet have the special screwdriver to get the case open
either... I'm guessing the heads are clean since it did boot once ok...?

Anyone ever heard of a Phaser 800 floppy drive, made by Warp Nine
Technology? Gotta love the name regardless.
 It
came with the Mac...seek sounds very noisy and it won't boot from that drive
either. Struggling to figure out how to get the thing to come apart...I
think I may have slide it forward, pull the drive bezel off, then slide it
out the back?

And lastly...I can't get it to recognize an external hard drive...one that
works fine on the LCII. First tried an ADTX drive, which uses an IDE to SCSI
adapter with a 2.5" IDE drive...system 7.5, nothing. Tried a generic Seagate
Cheetah (I think - maybe Barracuda) in an external case with 7.5...nothing.
I have a SCSI to IDE adapter which then goes to Compactflash, again,
nothing...all of these boot fine on the LCII. Finally put in a fresh 256mb
CF card and loaded 6.0.8 onto it via the LCII, no dice. Booted the Plus and
tried to get it to see the drive with a patched HD SC Setup and it does not
see the drive. Do I just need a really old SCSI drive to work with this
thing or something? Any other ideas or common problems I should be looking
out for?

Thanks,

Wesley 

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Re: Mac Plus Plethora of Problems

[Mark Kronquist]

Okay. I am old.  Almost 50.  Phasers were sold by macfriends in PDX at the time 
largest unauthorized apple dealer on earth.  Pc 720k drive with fake iwm or was 
it swim. Sounded like shit.  Worked fine 199 vs 329 corporate 499 retail for 
apple 800k. We bot hundreds. 

What is ram state on plus?

If resistor clipped 2 2.5 4 mb ram is it shorting out? Ie shifted back and 
touching

If scanty ram Mac try 5,1.  X thru Mac is no readable os. 6.0.8 May not load 
into 1mb ram. Thus x

Assume you have proper finder

Not loading too many fonts or da s with font da mover

Didn't ResEdit 

Have 50k space of fd to write to

Assume pram batt bad 

Also try 400k os disk incase second read write head bad

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> On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Wesley Furr  wrote:
> 
> I recently acquired a Mac Plus from an old friend...it was her parent's and I 
> gather was used for many years. Unfortunately, looks like it got stored in 
> the basement or something and has acquired a bit of mildew...but just sitting 
> around problem is half of its problems...where shall I begin...
> 
> The external Lacie hard drive (with a Quantum Prodrive ELS) is dead. I 
> whacked on it (and may have killed it) trying to get it going...ultimately 
> pulled the cover and tried the head move trick...it will seek back and forth 
> a few times, then spin down anyway. I've written that part off...
> 
> I used an LCII to create a System 6.0.8 boot disk and it booted up just fine. 
> Once. Now it spins, heads seek, then it stops spinning. Pauses, spins, seeks, 
> then stops again...disk icon on the screen goes to an X when it stops, then 
> normal looking as it tries again, wash, rinse, repeat. Could this be as 
> simple as needing a head cleaning? The disk still works fine in the LCII. I 
> also plugged in an external Apple 3.5 disk drive and it boots fine on that as 
> well. Any other maintenance that might need to be done on the drive? I don't 
> yet have the special screwdriver to get the case open either... I'm guessing 
> the heads are clean since it did boot once ok...?
> 
> Anyone ever heard of a Phaser 800 floppy drive, made by Warp Nine Technology? 
> Gotta love the name regardless.  It came with the Mac...seek sounds very 
> noisy and it won't boot from that drive either. Struggling to figure out how 
> to get the thing to come apart...I think I may have slide it forward, pull 
> the drive bezel off, then slide it out the back?
> 
> And lastly...I can't get it to recognize an external hard drive...one that 
> works fine on the LCII. First tried an ADTX drive, which uses an IDE to SCSI 
> adapter with a 2.5" IDE drive...system 7.5, nothing. Tried a generic Seagate 
> Cheetah (I think - maybe Barracuda) in an external case with 7.5...nothing. I 
> have a SCSI to IDE adapter which then goes to Compactflash, again, 
> nothing...all of these boot fine on the LCII. Finally put in a fresh 256mb CF 
> card and loaded 6.0.8 onto it via the LCII, no dice. Booted the Plus and 
> tried to get it to see the drive with a patched HD SC Setup and it does not 
> see the drive. Do I just need a really old SCSI drive to work with this thing 
> or something? Any other ideas or common problems I should be looking out for?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wesley
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