Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 2/7/11, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB
 rewritable disk to a CD.
 
 After a Google search I found little info but suspect the
 disk falls into the magneto-optical category. What drive is required to
 do read this disk?
 
 Here is a description  from the requester:
 I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997]. They're
 almost exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes,
 with the write protect notch in the same position. There are two of them  
 labelled Komag 128 MB rewritable.
 
 Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen

You need a 3.5 Magneto Optical drive. Mostly they're SCSI so you need a 
Macintosh with SCSI to connect it to. Given that the disks are circa 1997 
you'll want OS 8.1 or 9.x.x on that Mac.

Forget eBay for getting a drive. Since Fujitsu quit the MO market, sellers have 
been starting MO drives on there at stupid high prices, but disks can still be 
picked up cheap. A 640 meg drive would be a good one to get, especially with 
LIMDOW (Light Intensity Modulation Direct OverWrite), so you can use it to read 
and write any 3.5 MO disk 640 meg or smaller. (LIMDOW makes writes 2x faster, 
but only on LIMDOW capable disks.)

I just searched eBay, looks like all the drives on there are the higher 
capacity 1+ gig types. I dunno about the compatibility of those with lower 
capacity disks, looks like most of the ones on there are 5.25

The disks can also be read with a PC running a Mac emulator like Basilisk II or 
Sheep Shaver, also with a SCSI card like an Adaptec 2940. Those cards are 
cheaper than dirt on eBay, even the ones with Mac compatible BIOS.

Most of the smaller capacity MO drives use narrow, Single Ended SCSI so you'd 
want a SCSI card with the 50 pin connector. Don't get a differential or LVD 
(Low Voltage Differential) SCSI card for this. Those are mainly for use with 
SCSI drives that have the SCA80 connector.

I have a couple of MO drives, a 320 meg and a 640 meg, but I'm not ready to 
part with them. Still got a bunch of old Mac stuff to get off some disks, same 
story with a stack of Zip 100 disks I keep not getting around to doing same 
with.

If my 128 meg MO drive hadn't up and died I'd give it to you for the shipping 
cost. (I got the 640 meg when the 128 meg quit.)


  

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Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-08 Thread glen




- Original Message 
 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com
 To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 6:32:58 AM
 Subject: Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?
 
 --- On Mon, 2/7/11, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB
   rewritable disk to a CD.
  
  After a Google search I found little  info but suspect the
  disk falls into the magneto-optical category. What  drive is required to
  do read this disk?
  
  Here is a  description  from the requester:
  I do know that they were used on a Mac  system [predates 1997]. They're
  almost exactly  the size of two stacked  3.5 floppy diskettes,
  with the write protect notch in the same position.  There are two of them  
labelled Komag 128 MB rewritable.
  
   Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen
 
 You need a 3.5 Magneto Optical  drive. Mostly they're SCSI so you need a 
Macintosh with SCSI to connect it to.  Given that the disks are circa 1997 
you'll want OS 8.1 or 9.x.x on that  Mac.
 
 Forget eBay for getting a drive. Since Fujitsu quit the MO market,  sellers 
have been starting MO drives on there at stupid high prices, but disks  can 
still be picked up cheap. A 640 meg drive would be a good one to get,  
especially with LIMDOW (Light Intensity Modulation Direct OverWrite), so you 
can  
use it to read and write any 3.5 MO disk 640 meg or smaller. (LIMDOW makes  
writes 2x faster, but only on LIMDOW capable disks.)
 
 I just searched  eBay, looks like all the drives on there are the higher 
capacity 1+ gig types. I  dunno about the compatibility of those with lower 
capacity disks, looks like  most of the ones on there are 5.25
 
 The disks can also be read with a PC  running a Mac emulator like Basilisk II 
or Sheep Shaver, also with a SCSI card  like an Adaptec 2940. Those cards are 
cheaper than dirt on eBay, even the ones  with Mac compatible BIOS.
 
 Most of the smaller capacity MO drives use  narrow, Single Ended SCSI so 
 you'd 
want a SCSI card with the 50 pin connector.  Don't get a differential or LVD 
(Low Voltage Differential) SCSI card for this.  Those are mainly for use with 
SCSI drives that have the SCA80  connector.
 
 I have a couple of MO drives, a 320 meg and a 640 meg, but I'm  not ready to 
part with them. Still got a bunch of old Mac stuff to get off some  disks, 
same 
story with a stack of Zip 100 disks I keep not getting around to  doing same 
with.
 
 If my 128 meg MO drive hadn't up and died I'd give it to  you for the 
 shipping 
cost. (I got  the 640 meg when the 128 meg  quit.)

Thanks for the information. I have plenty of old Macs either with native SCSI 
or 
a SCSI card installed. I just need to purchase a MO drive (provided the data on 
the disks is of value that warrants that hassle and expense). --glen


  

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Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-07 Thread Charles Lowndes
I thought they were zip media

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On 8 Feb 2011, at 00:15, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB rewritable 
 disk 
 to a CD.
 
 After a Google search I found little info but suspect the disk falls into the 
 magneto-optical category. What drive is required to do read this disk?
 
 Here is a description  from the requester:
 I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997]. They're 
 almost 
 exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes, with the write protect 
  
 notch in the same position. There are two of them labelled Komag 128 MB 
 rewritable.
 
 Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen
 
 
 
 
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Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-07 Thread Matt Patoray

Glen,

It sounds like that would be a 128 MB HFS formate Magneto Optical  
disc, they where a common high capacity rewritable media in the 90's.  
You can just search something like Fujitsu Magneto Optical on ebay  
and come up with a drive, I do believe there where even external USB  
ones made.


Matt

On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:15 PM, glen wrote:

I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB  
rewritable disk

to a CD.

After a Google search I found little info but suspect the disk falls  
into the

magneto-optical category. What drive is required to do read this disk?

Here is a description  from the requester:
I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997].  
They're almost
exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes, with the  
write protect
notch in the same position. There are two of them labelled Komag  
128 MB

rewritable.

Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen




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Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-07 Thread mak
Fujitsu Made a lovely 128 MB MO SCSI Drive KOMAG was a disc vendor

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From: Charles Lowndes charlie.lown...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

I thought they were zip media

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 Feb 2011, at 00:15, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB rewritable 
 disk 
 to a CD.
 
 After a Google search I found little info but suspect the disk falls into 
 the 
 magneto-optical category. What drive is required to do read this disk?
 
 Here is a description  from the requester:
 I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997]. They're 
 almost 
 exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes, with the write 
 protect  
 notch in the same position. There are two of them labelled Komag 128 MB 
 rewritable.
 
 Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen
 
 
 
 
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RE: What is a Mac formated Komag 128 Rewritable disk?

2011-02-07 Thread Wesley Furr
Sounds like it is a 128Mb MO indeed.  Does the disk look like this?

http://skinflint.co.uk/a270272.html 

I've got a few of them and a drive here that I had hooked up to my PC for a
while.  Looks like they aren't all that easy to come by on ebay...at least
not outside of the folks that $100-200+ for them.  I don't even recall where
I got mine now...

Wesley


-Original Message-

I have received a request to transfer data from a Komag 128 MB rewritable
disk to a CD.

After a Google search I found little info but suspect the disk falls into
the magneto-optical category. What drive is required to do read this disk?

Here is a description  from the requester:
I do know that they were used on a Mac system [predates 1997]. They're
almost exactly  the size of two stacked 3.5 floppy diskettes, with the write
protect notch in the same position. There are two of them labelled Komag
128 MB rewritable.

Any info appreciated, thanks -- glen

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