Bad Tubes and Analog Boards
My ISP has been down and is now back up. I am celebrating by sending this. I have a bunch, and I do mean a bunch of Mac SE cases out on my porch. I thought they would make good cat houses. One time, one of our two cats spent the day sleeping in one. Of course, they do make good fish tanks, so I have heard. But, ... in the process of taking these apart, I figured out an easy way to install monitors on bad screened gems that I wanted to refurbish. It is easy and painless. If you have an SE/30 or FDHD or Superdrive that you need a new tube in, simply find an old SE and tear it apart. If the refurb computer is flashing and has an unstable analog board, simply find an SE that is stable as a rock. Switch them out. The tube, though, can be a headache if you replace it and have to adjust it. Don't adjust it. Simply leave the yoke on the good tube and replace the bad one with the tube and yoke together. Voila, no adjusting need. Those darn magnets can be a headache. By the way, I have yet to get zapped by any electricity either. Turning on a Mac SE for a couple of minutes to check out its video prowess, seems not to make any charge build up. Shoot, and I have taken them apart and checked them out, and unreplaced them without a problem right after each other. I have several good monitors that I am saving with yoke attached. Do I solder on mbs and analog boards? I have, but have not been very successful; certainly not successful enough to brag about so I try my best to skirt that issue by only replacing solid as a rock analogs for the jittery ones. Hope this helps some of the Baby Macers to take the jump into tearing them up and putting them back together. I am getting so good at this, that if you laid out the parts on a table, I can put them back together without a problem. Again, as I have related to others, I tore up a small torx screwdriver and use the shaft in combination with an electric screw drive and an extension to make it easier. I have serious arthritis problems, so the easier on me the better. Have fun with those old Babies. Dale -- Caddo County Harpman - ccharpman! http://home.tanet.net/dhill Do you think he might be compensating for something? Shreck (01) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
6800, was Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
Did 6800's exist btw? I do tech support for state schools, and some have referred to them often enough for me to wonder if some special educational version existed, however they've all been replaced and seem to only exist in memory now - been meaning to ask that, and thought you, pickle, may have an idea there if anyone would :D 6800, 6801, 6802 and 6809 DID exist. I built a kit computer (SWTP) in the late 70;s that used 6800 and later the 6809. It came out around the time the Apple I was released. When I sold it, it had over 700K of ram. The 6800 family was made by Motorola. We (Engineering Measurements Co.) sold thousands of traffic controllers using them. Clock speed was in the range of 1 to 2 Mhz. -- - Bob Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my garage sale http://www.ibrb.org/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: linux m68k on IIfx (fwd)
Hey, Scott In about two weeks I'm going to run the Debian potato on an 030. Is there a Debian list that you know of? William greetings, gotta tell everyone :) I finally got the debian potato on my IIfx. My first login as / (blush) this old mac... :) peace, scb = Renegade Infidel http://www.artaudsociety.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Free Sun monitor
I wrote earlier on the PCI list ( I'm posting it on the Swap list, the other lists that I brought the problem to) about the Sun 19 monitor (#365-1013) I found: Apparently it has an early type of VGA port, having only 9 pins (actually 6, but spaces for 9). Either that or it's a TTL monitor -- CGA (unlikely from Sun) or EGA, in which case I'm screwed. Presumably (considering its age, c. 1988) it was a companion to a 386I, Sun's less-than-spectacularly successful attempt to break into the Intel (not yet Wintel then) box market, so might 1 not expect it to handle at least some standard PC resolutions, like 1024x768 or 1280x1024? On further research -- I am screwed (tho' not of any money, fortunately -- always look on the Bright Side of Life) I am led to believe that it will not work with a Mac. The 386i's i/o architecture was different than a PC (in addition to their running Sun's version of Unix), even if I could find an adaptor or card that can do TTL, the monitor has a fixed resolution of 1152 x 900! It's also monochrome, (I guess in Sunspeak that means black white, 1-bit, 2-color...as opposed to Applespeak (as in the 12 Monochrome Monitor). Not to diss bw monitors, they're very sharp easy on the eyes -- I had an Apple 12 Mono, but the picture was getting twisted around somehow I didn't want to mess with adjusting the yoke, so I gave it away. I regret that now. I guess anybody who wants this baby for whatever purpose -- any Sun worshippers out there? -- can have it, too. PICKUP ONLY (believe me, you don't want to pay for shipping on this one!) No guarantees, since I can't tell if it will get a picture or not, but it does seem to power up: I can see the CRT neck light up when I turn it on. In northeastern Illinois area, U.S.A. Contact me offlist for directions. -- Over, Jutso -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6800, was Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
--- Robert Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did 6800's exist btw? I do tech support for state schools, and some have referred to them often enough for me to wonder if some special educational version existed, however they've all been replaced and seem to only exist in memory now - been meaning to ask that, and thought you, pickle, may have an idea there if anyone would :D 6800, 6801, 6802 and 6809 DID exist. I built a kit computer (SWTP) in the late 70;s that used 6800 and later the 6809. It came out around the time the Apple I was released. When I sold it, it had over 700K of ram. The 6800 family was made by Motorola. We (Engineering Measurements Co.) sold thousands of traffic controllers using them. Clock speed was in the range of 1 to 2 Mhz. Did they run software from Traf-O-Data? :) (Traf-O-Data 2000 Professional is a pretty good OS. ;-) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Thanks for the help, but...
At 21:47 -0400 on 15/08/01, Kevin Haryett wrote: I have managed to get my PC running MacDrive 2000 so I can transfer files to the old IIsi. I have also downloaded from apple the OS 7.5 in its entire 19 parts. Now, if i transfer this to the mac, can I just run the installer from the HD, or is there something else I should do first?? Currently have 7.0 That should do it. Contact me offlist about that other thing I sent. And does anyone no a source for cheap ADB mice in Canada? The local Mac Find a seller on eBay or the Low End Mac Swap list who'll ship to Canada. US$5-10 should cover the mouse and shipping, most likely. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6800, was Re: OT: Famous PC parts company does a funny. :)
I had heard of 6800's as in processors (but only vaguely, and in passing) but was more curious about the Powermac 6800/180's You're not thinking of the 6400/180? I've never heard of a PowerMac 6800. Non-US model maybe? Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Enhanced LC PDS expansion cards
At 10:02 +0800 on 16/08/01, Andrew W. Hill wrote: I think it was mostly for accelerators and video cards. ...and I don't know of a single accelerator that used 'em. All the accelerators I know of for the LC-class Macs were compatible with all of 'em, so they couldn't have used the extra pins. I haven't seen a video card that did either, but info on LC video cards is a bit sparse. What about those MediaVision PAS-16 sound cards for the LC slot? National Instruments boards for the LC slot? It's the obscure stuff that might have needed it.. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
Or donate to a not for profit organization and take a tax write off. However, if you can get the RAM really cheaply then go for it and make it into a server (FTP perhaps) or a print spooler or a firewall. Of course were a friend to offer me one I'd take it to add to my collection. Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. Horrid, horrid machines. We have several sitting in the bunker here (the old computer graveyard) and no one liked them when they were new, much less now. They do break down nicely, though, like in trash compactors and steam presses. Good stress relievers. Steve Conrad 1818 Franklin Lexington, MO 64067 660-259-7176 http://sasha91.0pi.com It is no secret (nor should it come as any surprise) that humankind's most noble impulses often surface during the most trying of times, that human spirit rises to the challenge when faced with adversity, that human strength is born from human failings...Is it any wonder, then, that the SDF-1 crew became a tighter family after the fortress had been exiled than it had before? From the log of Captain (later Admiral) Henry Gloval -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Thanks for the help, but...
And does anyone no a source for cheap ADB mice in Canada? The local Mac In Holland I've found new adb type mouses for 5 guilders, that is little over 2 usdollars a piece. Brandname: Primax. I have used one on my SE for maybe a year now... No problems as of yet. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
At 21:24 -0600 on 15/08/01, Steve Conrad wrote: Or donate to a not for profit organization and take a tax write off. Of what, $5? That's about what they're worth these days. p _ the pickle The FAQ http://macfaq.binhost.com/ The Archive http://www.jmug.org/software/thepickle/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
$5 is better than $0.00, trust me on this one. At 21:24 -0600 on 15/08/01, Steve Conrad wrote: Or donate to a not for profit organization and take a tax write off. Of what, $5? That's about what they're worth these days. p Steve Conrad 1818 Franklin Lexington, MO 64067 660-259-7176 http://sasha91.0pi.com It is no secret (nor should it come as any surprise) that humankind's most noble impulses often surface during the most trying of times, that human spirit rises to the challenge when faced with adversity, that human strength is born from human failings...Is it any wonder, then, that the SDF-1 crew became a tighter family after the fortress had been exiled than it had before? From the log of Captain (later Admiral) Henry Gloval -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 21:24 -0600 on 15/08/01, Steve Conrad wrote: Or donate to a not for profit organization and take a tax write off. Of what, $5? That's about what they're worth these days. As someone who gives a lot of Mac gear and numerous desktops to non-profits I can tell you two things: 1) You can quote a fair-market price for the item. So you can use a quote from say Shreves Systems or other vendor that sets its prices based on arcane, obscure and unreasonable economic variables; and, 2) Unless you are already itemizing every conceivable expense, the US tax code makes it ridiculous to take penny-ante deductions. You end up losing money unless you're giving away $5,000+ in donations. Trust me on this one.I give away a lot of stuff and I got a friend who's a tax specialist for HR Block and I'm not taking any deductions for the stuff. But do it anyway if they can use it. William = Renegade Infidel http://www.artaudsociety.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
Cameron Kaiser wrote: Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. Horrid, horrid machines. We have several sitting in the bunker here (the old computer graveyard) and no one liked them when they were new, much less now. They do break down nicely, though, like in trash compactors and steam presses. Good stress relievers. As much as I hate to make a statement derogatory to the mac...I concur. Kill it. Destroy it. Throw it off of a building. I'll send you a 7100 (cheap) if you need another Mac. -- Kyle H. Hansen Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? --George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. ala Trojan Horse? Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Thanks for the help, but...
And does anyone no a source for cheap ADB mice in Canada? The local Mac shops wants $55 Cdn for an aftermarket. Mine is still skipping after countless cleanings. I'll ship to Canada if you pay in US$. US$10 should do it, then add about $5 for shipping. It'll be more like $3 ground or $6 air. Thats what, CDN$30? Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Enhanced LC PDS expansion cards
At 10:02 +0800 on 16/08/01, Andrew W. Hill wrote: I think it was mostly for accelerators and video cards. ...and I don't know of a single accelerator that used 'em. All the accelerators I know of for the LC-class Macs were compatible with all of 'em, so they couldn't have used the extra pins. I haven't seen a video card that did either, but info on LC video cards is a bit sparse. What about those MediaVision PAS-16 sound cards for the LC slot? National Instruments boards for the LC slot? It's the obscure stuff that might have needed it.. Sorry, should have specified that I was guessing. The extra pins widen the expansion bus to 32bits. I've never actually seen an LCIII card, even though I've seen some LC cards on boards that had solder points for an LCIII connector. Probably went the same way as the Commodore128 and the //gs Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
2) Unless you are already itemizing every conceivable expense, the US tax code makes it ridiculous to take penny-ante deductions. You end up losing money unless you're giving away $5,000+ in donations. My Mom steals her boyfriends clothes that he won't fit into anymore (but swears he will someday) and donates them to ex-hookers to get a tax break. Fairly sizeable break too. He's never thrown away clothes before... still doesn't know he's doing it... Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Thanks for the help, but...
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vintage Macs) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:09:42 +0800 From: Andrew W. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks for the help, but... And does anyone no a source for cheap ADB mice in Canada? The local Mac shops wants $55 Cdn for an aftermarket. Mine is still skipping after countless cleanings. I'll ship to Canada if you pay in US$. US$10 should do it, then add about $5 for shipping. It'll be more like $3 ground or $6 air. Thats what, CDN$30? Bzzt...I bought 16 US dollars for 24.xx CDN *today*. Thought shipping is inclusive packaging, used packagings in good condition and shipping cost? And this is payment for shipping guts of LC475 logic board, PSU, floppy etc for price of shipping. I was lucky to find someone who is giving away for cost of shipping or pickup. Wasn't on the swaplist it was on classiccomp list. Cheers, Jason Peace Aqua -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing...
-Original Message- From: Sean McGroty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: Re: IIcx's, floods, mouse houses and dishwashing... I have been wondering how it or its sister product, the citrus-based OrangeClean would work on yellowed case parts. OxyClean works well when cleaning cases. Not sure about the yellowing though. Although, it seemed to work on my SE case. I am STILL very committed to Clorox CleanUp Gel. After several applications with a foam paint brush, I get near new-looking clean with no damage to the case. It stays in the direct desert sun for a day , while applications are added,then rinsed. I've seen nothing work better. Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where can I find a FTP program for the Mac II and a power PC I need both?
--- astrobuoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also ftp from your browser by entering ftp://; instead of http://;. but Fetch is great. Also, Cyberdog is dirt free and it ftps just fine... all the best Unfortunately, IE and Netscape for Mac don't handle FTP _uploading_ well. :( To login to an FTP with a username and password enter ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The windows versions do OK, just drag files into the browser window after logging in and they ask if you want to upload or copy. IE even lets you delete/rename/move files and folders. Netscape only uploads/downloads. I tried that with IE5 Mac today and instead of uploading the image file it just displayed it. :P I'd have to check to make sure but I don't think Netscape Mac will do that either. One caution with IE Win, it remembers the whole FTP URL with the username and password in plaintext. Netscape on both and IE on Mac remove the password from their autocomplete history. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 64MB SIMMs
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the max RAM for a Performa 6214CD (such a well-known model, I know...) 64MB, orcan it take 128MB? Thought with the cost of 64MB 70-pin SIMMs, I suppose it would hardly be worth it... It is not worth it. Throw into street now, or give it to your worst enemy as a truce present. Horrid, horrid machines. We have several sitting in the bunker here (the old computer graveyard) and no one liked them when they were new, much less now. They do break down nicely, though, like in trash compactors and steam presses. Good stress relievers. Apple took all the worst bits from their design bin to make the 62xx series, with the exception of the 6360. Just read the Road Apple page on them. I think they deserve a dishonorable mention un-award. ;) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Where can I find a FTP program for the Mac II and a power PCI need both?
--- astrobuoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also ftp from your browser by entering ftp://; instead of http://;. but Fetch is great. Also, Cyberdog is dirt free and it ftps just fine... all the best Unfortunately, IE and Netscape for Mac don't handle FTP _uploading_ well. :( To login to an FTP with And can mess up slower FTP servers when browsing. Uses higher resources or some crap like that. Peace Aqua -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Enhanced LC PDS expansion cards
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:02 +0800 on 16/08/01, Andrew W. Hill wrote: I think it was mostly for accelerators and video cards. ...and I don't know of a single accelerator that used 'em. All the accelerators I know of for the LC-class Macs were compatible with all of 'em, so they couldn't have used the extra pins. I haven't seen a video card that did either, but info on LC video cards is a bit sparse. What about those MediaVision PAS-16 sound cards for the LC slot? National Instruments boards for the LC slot? It's the obscure stuff that might have needed it.. The MacCon LC NIC in the Performa 550 I don't have anymore had _holes_ for the extended PDS connector and some other missing bits. Dunno what kind of extra features it would've had if those parts were installed. = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External Speakers * A few notes
There is no sound out from the TV tuner card or AV card. That's why Apple has the 1/8 minijack on the motherboard. Right. Oops. Those are definitely under two watts. You'll need an amp. Most definitely! Typical loudspeakers come in 4, 8 or 16 ohm varieties. Typical unbalanced line level, ie, the audio out on your computer, the playback jacks on your cassette deck are in the 47,000 to 100,000 ohm range. An 8 watt amplifier will deliver 8 volts at 1 amp into an 8 ohm speaker. A line level output typically peaks at 100 millivolts. (1/10 volt) The current available, since it's designed to feed a 50,000 ohm load is almost nill. The long and the short of it... You could hook loudspeakers directly to the audio out jack on your computer *probably* (no guarantees) won't hurt anything. But! you'd have to turn off your fan motors, hard drives, etc. put your ear up to the speaker to hear anything at all. And, it would sound very tinny. (bass notes require significant amounts of current) Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
