Re: tons o questions

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Peter Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pickle et al,
> 
> Re a certain thread in the compact macs list, but to
> keep on topic I'm
> posting here to vintage.
> 
> what exactly does a  GPIB General Purpose Interface
> Board, DO?.

http://www.microlink.co.uk/gpib.html

GPIB (Or IEEE-488) was originally developed by
Hewlett Packard as HP-IB then changed to GPIB when
the interface was accepted as an IEEE standard.
It's primary use has generally been in industrial,
medical and scientific equipment. 

If you can find one, you could most likely hook up
an HP ThinkJet GPIB printer to your Mac. ThinkJets
are tiny inkjet printers that print about as good
as a 9pin dot matrix, but without the noise. Since
nobody really wants the GPIB or serial ThinkJets,
they're usually available on a "Take it before
I throw it away." basis. ;) (The parallel version has
a tiny but loyal following so they usually sell
for a little money.) There are five types of ink
for the ThinkJet. Black for ThinkJet paper and
black, blue, red and green for plain paper. Since
you can't (AFAIK) get ThinkJet paper anymore,
that type of black ink is pretty well useless. ;)

I have a parallel ThinkJet and I've toyed with the
idea of attempting to do RGB seperations of an
image then print three passes through it on a
transparency. :) Dunno what else I'd do with those
colors of ink.

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Re: tons o questions

[the pickle]

At 22:45 -0400 on 01/05/02, Peter Stephenson wrote:

>It's a 12" nubus for IIFX size computer (or aircraft carrier) and am
>wondering what it does.it do? Actually, what can I do with it?  I downloaded

Lots of stuff, if you're handy with electronics ;)  Control various pieces
of equipment, run custom circuits, that sort of thing.  Not a lot for the
non-technical user, however.

>I also have a supermac thunder/8 video card. Anybody know what those 4 64
>pin simm slots are for? the IIfx memory fit in there but does it need

VRAM, but IIfx RAM doesn't work, and I've never seen the proper VRAM (or
specs for it).

>One other thing. I have a crappy CD burner which can br seen by toast 3.5.6
>but doesn't make anything but very slow coasters. Is there any way to clean
>it in case that is a possible problem? It is a crappy 2 x/4x which reads but

A commercial lens cleaning disc might help, but my guess is the RAM buffer
isn't large enough.  Try setting it higher, to the extent that you can with
only 20MB RAM.

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Re: My IIsi

[the pickle]

At 22:38 -0400 on 01/05/02, A.Tuazon wrote:

>This little machine of mine never ceases to amaze me.  In the specs for the
>IIsi, it listed it as having a maximum RAM capacity of 64(+1) megs. I
>decided to max out the RAM since I was getting tired of the old, paltry 8
>megs.  Then I saw a note in one tech discussion regarding this model saying
>that it was possible to reach 128 megs?!  Well, I dug out my old copy of Ram

Other than using RAM Doubler as you have, 128MB is impossible.  Why?
Because no SIMMs large enough were ever made ;)

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tons o questions

[Peter Stephenson]

pickle et al,

Re a certain thread in the compact macs list, but to keep on topic I'm
posting here to vintage.

what exactly does a  GPIB General Purpose Interface Board, DO?.  National
Instruments was (and is) the main manufacturer of those which I have
<>

It's a 12" nubus for IIFX size computer (or aircraft carrier) and am
wondering what it does.it do? Actually, what can I do with it?  I downloaded
drivers from
National instruments but I'm an artist not a engineer. I'm wondering  does
it have any use fror me , my garden, our three kids? It has  an internal
adapter like 50 pin scsi but on th outside it has some weird 34 (?) I think
pin centronics type adapter. What can I do with it? willl it pay my mortgage
or find me a job? Should I offer it up on the Swap list? if so how much?

I got three IIFX's a while back and this was in one. They had the drives
stripped but they seem to have come from a local newspaper All had 20 megs
ram and only two had video cards. The super mac and a radius (very nice,  it
does 1152X786 or something in32 bit!!   As well as 16 ,8, 4, and 2) I
can't
change the size resolution from that though. Any thoughts? Is it sensing
something from the monitor apple 17 inch.

I also have a supermac thunder/8 video card. Anybody know what those 4 64
pin simm slots are for? the IIfx memory fit in there but does it need
something else to access this memory? Do those simm slots actually do
anything? The card works otherwise

One other thing. I have a crappy CD burner which can br seen by toast 3.5.6
but doesn't make anything but very slow coasters. Is there any way to clean
it in case that is a possible problem? It is a crappy 2 x/4x which reads but
the writing is a little screwy. It is a JVC2010 which is reportedly a real
buggy model but I'd like to fix it if possible.

enough questions for you?

Pete



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My IIsi

[A.Tuazon]

This little machine of mine never ceases to amaze me.  In the specs for the
IIsi, it listed it as having a maximum RAM capacity of 64(+1) megs. I
decided to max out the RAM since I was getting tired of the old, paltry 8
megs.  Then I saw a note in one tech discussion regarding this model saying
that it was possible to reach 128 megs?!  Well, I dug out my old copy of Ram
Doubler v.2 and to my surprise it worked!  My IIsi lists it's memory as
having 128 megs and it seems faster than before.  However, I noticed that
when I start it up and the extensions are loading, I hear a chime type noise
coming from it.  Does anyone know what the heck this means?  All the
extensions seem to load up fine and the computer boots up without a hitch.
All the programs seem to work.


Thanks in advance.
 


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Re: SE/30 RAM (was System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3)

[Eagle]

On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 08:33 , the pickle wrote:
> At 18:12 -0400 on 01/05/02, Eagle wrote:
>> OK, so I ripped open the SE/30 to pull the 4MB SIMMs and I saw the 8
>> SIMM slots I was expecting, and what looks to be a 72-pin SIMM slot.
>> According to this site:
>>
>>  http://www.biwa.ne.jp/%7Eshamada/fullmac/repairEng.html#MemoryConfigurations
>> that slot is indeed a ROM slot.
>>
>> Is that really true?  It sure looks like RAM to me -- but, then, I'm no
>
> Yes.  ROM SIMM.  Required for the SE/30 to boot since it doesn't have
> onboard ROM.

I've just never seen surface mount ROM chips on a board like that...I've 
only seen socketed ROM on a motherboard.  Coolness.

Eagle


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Re: Macintosh II Batteries

[the pickle]

At 09:33 +1000 on 02/05/02, Vaughan Bromfield wrote:

>I've got one to experiment on). I've done some soldering before but am a
>bit worried I'm going to damage the Mac II motherboard if I do the wrong
>thing. Any hints or tips? I dearly love these things -- the Mac II was

Use a hot enough soldering iron that you can melt the solder almost
immediately, but not so hot that it risks burning the board with brief
application.

>working again. Is there a way of getting "normal" 3.6 volt batteries to

You could solder in some sockets - I've seen that done before.

>loose disks. What's the appropriate process for passing this on? I don't

Make disk images and send them to me via e-mail :)

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Re: SE/30 RAM (was System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3)

[the pickle]

At 18:12 -0400 on 01/05/02, Eagle wrote:

>OK, so I ripped open the SE/30 to pull the 4MB SIMMs and I saw the 8
>SIMM slots I was expecting, and what looks to be a 72-pin SIMM slot.
>According to this site:
>
>   http://www.biwa.ne.jp/%7Eshamada/fullmac/repairEng.html#MemoryConfigurations
>that slot is indeed a ROM slot.
>
>Is that really true?  It sure looks like RAM to me -- but, then, I'm no

Yes.  ROM SIMM.  Required for the SE/30 to boot since it doesn't have
onboard ROM.


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Re: Macintosh II Batteries

[KADaggett]

My Reply follows quote. On 01/05/2002 16:34 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vaughan Bromfield)
>Hello
>
>This is my first post, having been a lurker for a week or three on the
>digest. I'm from Sydney Australia. Lots of questions...
>
>I have a three Macintosh II computers, two won't boot at all which
>suggests the PRAM batteries are flat (one is sans HD and DD disks so
>I've got one to experiment on). I've done some soldering before but am a
>bit worried I'm going to damage the Mac II motherboard if I do the wrong
>thing. Any hints or tips? I dearly love these things -- the Mac II was
>the first Macintosh I ever worked with -- and I'd love to see them
>working again. Is there a way of getting "normal" 3.6 volt batteries to
>work in a elegant fashion?
--
Well, don't know about "elegant" but I have a ROM01 Apple ][gs that had a 
dead PRAM battery. It had one of the 3.6v batteries like most older Macs 
but with wire leads (sort of like the old paper wound capacitors). Since 
I was a bit leery of soldering directly on the mother board, I clipped 
the battery leads close to the battery. Next I clipped the wire leads 
from an old capacitor and "tack soldered" them to each end of a 3.6v PRAM 
battery, using low temp solder. I then soldered these new leads to the 
wire protruding from the mother board, using alligator clips as heat 
sinks between the new battery and the mother board. Back in business.

Ken

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Macintosh II Batteries

[Vaughan Bromfield]

Hello

This is my first post, having been a lurker for a week or three on the
digest. I'm from Sydney Australia. Lots of questions...

I have a three Macintosh II computers, two won't boot at all which
suggests the PRAM batteries are flat (one is sans HD and DD disks so
I've got one to experiment on). I've done some soldering before but am a
bit worried I'm going to damage the Mac II motherboard if I do the wrong
thing. Any hints or tips? I dearly love these things -- the Mac II was
the first Macintosh I ever worked with -- and I'd love to see them
working again. Is there a way of getting "normal" 3.6 volt batteries to
work in a elegant fashion?

The one working Mac II has the PMMU chip (I'd been chasing that for
years) so of course I'm after some PAL 4 or 16 MB sims to make good use
of it. Does anybody know where these can be acquired?

Lastly, my organisation has just had a *huge* cleanout of software and
stuff all suitable for older 68K Macs, and I managed to salvage boxes of
800K disks (like ClarisWorks v1, Suitcase II, Canvas and SuperPaint,
even the first version of SoftPC complete!) and most of the Inside
Macintosh books (all except V) a few in original boxes but most just
loose disks. What's the appropriate process for passing this on? I don't
want to make a huge profit on this; I just want to cover postage plus a
couple of bucks to go towards old Mac RAM etc. (I also have a IIfx which
could do with some memory and a Q700 that needs a power supply.)

I wecome contact with any other Aussies on the list too. ;)

Thanks.



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SE/30 RAM (was System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3)

[Eagle]

OK, so I ripped open the SE/30 to pull the 4MB SIMMs and I saw the 8 
SIMM slots I was expecting, and what looks to be a 72-pin SIMM slot.  
According to this site:
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/%7Eshamada/fullmac/repairEng.html#MemoryConfigurations
that slot is indeed a ROM slot.

Is that really true?  It sure looks like RAM to me -- but, then, I'm no 
expert on the SE/30.

Also, since I don't KNOW that I have Mode32 installed, I've likely been 
running on only 8MB anyway. :)  Point is, I shouldn't miss the RAM when 
it's gone, and it should go a long way to helping my NeXTcube. :o

Eagle

On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, at 04:15 , George Derringer wrote:
> Eagle: It should be a very minimal effect, assuming you aren't running
> RAM-hungry applications on the machine.
>
>> From: Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
>> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:08:29 -0400
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
>> Subject: System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3
>>
>> Greetings, all.
>>
>> I've got an SE/30 running 7.5.3 and currently it has 20 MB RAM.  I want
>> to trade out the 4MB SIMMs to use them in another computer.  How much 
>> of
>> a performance hit should I expect when I go down to 8MB total?
>>
>> I don't really do much with the machine -- just use it as a LocalTalk
>> bridge for an SE, and that's really about it.
>>
>> Eagle


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Re: System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3

[George Derringer]

Eagle: It should be a very minimal effect, assuming you aren't running
RAM-hungry applications on the machine.

> From: Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:08:29 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs)
> Subject: System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3
> 
> Greetings, all.
> 
> I've got an SE/30 running 7.5.3 and currently it has 20 MB RAM.  I want
> to trade out the 4MB SIMMs to use them in another computer.  How much of
> a performance hit should I expect when I go down to 8MB total?
> 
> I don't really do much with the machine -- just use it as a LocalTalk
> bridge for an SE, and that's really about it.
> 
> Eagle
> 
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Re: System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3

[Scott Holder]

If the currently running setup never uses 8 megs and you don't really run 
many programs, it shouldn't make any difference at all really.

Scott Holder

At 04:08 PM 5/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Greetings, all.
>
>I've got an SE/30 running 7.5.3 and currently it has 20 MB RAM.  I want
>to trade out the 4MB SIMMs to use them in another computer.  How much of
>a performance hit should I expect when I go down to 8MB total?
>
>I don't really do much with the machine -- just use it as a LocalTalk
>bridge for an SE, and that's really about it.
>
>Eagle


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System requirements for 7.1 or 7.5.3

[Eagle]

Greetings, all.

I've got an SE/30 running 7.5.3 and currently it has 20 MB RAM.  I want 
to trade out the 4MB SIMMs to use them in another computer.  How much of 
a performance hit should I expect when I go down to 8MB total?

I don't really do much with the machine -- just use it as a LocalTalk 
bridge for an SE, and that's really about it.

Eagle


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