Re: Mac IIci questions
I have a ci with 8 megs ram that seems to have a troubled floppy drive. I'd like to swap in a floppy drive pulled from a LC II, and I removed the Hard Drive which sits upon this plastic partition. The floppy drive seems entombed beneath this plastic partition, and I'm wondering what's the best way to extract it? Looks like just one screw holds it down. Can I just unscrew it, pull the partition up, and slide out the floppy? Also, the machine came with a '040 Turbo card loose in the case, and I'd like to know: 1. how to test it; 2. if it adds any more memory; and 3. exactly which is the preferred slot to install. On digest so feel free to reply directly. MK Howdee! By the '040 card do you mean Sonnet's 040 Presto card? If so, that substantially increases your processing speed (to 55 or 60mhz I think) and allows you to run up to OS 8.6 on your IIci. I have a IIci with 32MB of RAM and a Aante MacCon Ethernet card, and it runs nicely for a IIci, but not like it would with a Prsto '040 card. The '040 card will not give you any more memory (I have 4 *MB sticks you can buy from me, give you 32MB of RAM), what it does is bumps your '030 processor up to a '040 like in the Quadra series machines. I have one of those for sale too a 605. As for testing that '040 card, just plug it in (should fit into the NuBus slot on your IIci's MoBo) and try her out. You should see a difference right away, when you turn the machine on; the boot process should go a little faster, and apps will run faster. Take a look at your About This Macintosh from the Apple menu. You're going to want some more RAM with that new speed. As far as clocking it, I know there are tools out there like Apple's System Profiler that will tell you how fast your machine is running, buy until you load OS 8 you won't have that. I don't have any links off hand to give you for such a program, perhaps someone else will. I can sell you the 32MB of RAM for your IIci for $25 shipped. If you want a '040 to play with as well, I'll sell you my Quadra 605 with 16MB of RAM, and 512k of VRAM for $15. Might be kind of cool to have the two LocalTalked together since the IIci can compete. You might even find that your IIci is in some cases faster than the Quadra. Low End Mac has a section on the '040 machines, which were the last pre-Power PC line. As far as getting at that floppy, yes: just un screw the shelf and pull it out, plug the new floppy in and then put the shelf back in. Nothing to it!Just put the new floppy drive in exactly as the old one was, using the same segment of the cables so the SCSI ID doesn't get mixed up. You shouldn't have any trouble. If you need help, or have more questions fell free to write me direct! Good Luck...Many Happy Macs! Jason T -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A computer without Windows is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. Friends don't let friends use Windows. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci questions
--- Jason Trunzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdee! By the '040 card do you mean Sonnet's 040 Presto card? If so, that substantially increases your processing speed (to 55 or 60mhz I think) and allows you to run up to OS 8.6 on your IIci. It's an 040, best it will do is 8.1. If it's the DayStar Turbo 040 it's even better than the Sonnet. The 040 card plugs into the slot right next to the power supply. The 040 card should have some L2 cache RAM on it. As far as getting at that floppy, yes: just un screw the shelf and pull it out, plug the new floppy in and then put the shelf back in. Nothing to it!Just put the new floppy drive in exactly as the old one was, using the same segment of the cables so the SCSI ID doesn't get mixed up. You shouldn't have any trouble. To remove the floppy and hard drive bracket you first have to remove the power supply. There's a catch on the back of the bracket. Use a table knife to gently pry the catch forward then grab the side of the power supply (remove any card on the PDS next to it) and wiggle the power supply up and out. Now remove the screw holding the bracket down. Then gently pull the catch at the side of the bracket next to the case and push the bracket slightly to the rear and it will come out. The connectors on the SCSI cable have nothing to do with the SCSI ID numbers. Any device on the cable can have any ID# as long as no other devices have the same number. If you get thin enough drives, there is room to stack two in the IIci. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Okay, I gotta ask this, as I haven't found any information about this: exactly how do DOS cards in Macs work? I have two of them now, one with a 286 chip and one with a 386 chip. I can vaguely remember one of these back in college, that seemed to do emulation and was extremely slow. Do they dual boot and you choose which OS to use? Do you need a second monitor to see what's going on? It's not that I have a pressing need for these, but I am curious. Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] New and improved site: http://www.xws.com/terispage/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: relatively foolish question
I know this isn't *exactly* the answer you are looking for, but... I have a IIe card in a Mac LC475. The card only works when you double click onto the software. At this point, the Mac will transform into a 1mhz Apple IIe. When you press open apple-control-power on the Mac, a box will appear asking if you want to quit the IIe. After you select yes, then viola, your Mac turns into a Mac again. The whole desktop turns into a monochrome IIe. Pretty cool I assume the DOS card works the same. Steven Okay, I gotta ask this, as I haven't found any information about this: exactly how do DOS cards in Macs work? I have two of them now, one with a 286 chip and one with a 386 chip. I can vaguely remember one of these back in college, that seemed to do emulation and was extremely slow. Do they dual boot and you choose which OS to use? Do you need a second monitor to see what's going on? It's not that I have a pressing need for these, but I am curious. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: relatively foolish question
Yes, you will need all of the original software in order to make it work. There is a booter application which you launch from inside the Mac OS which switches you into PC mode, and the DOS card loads up DOS or Windows from your PC partition. Okay, I gotta ask this, as I haven't found any information about this: exactly how do DOS cards in Macs work? I have two of them now, one with a 286 chip and one with a 386 chip. I can vaguely remember one of these back in college, that seemed to do emulation and was extremely slow. It isn't emulation, like with VirtualPC, as you aren't emulating PC hardware, you are running actual PC hardware. The slowness is due to the 286/386 chips. They should number crunch DOS apps of the era fine, but don't expect to run Windows XP. Do they dual boot and you choose which OS to use? Do you need a second monitor to see what's going on? It's not that I have a pressing need for these, but I am curious. No, the Mac is still in control at all times. Even though the DOS card has its own processor, ROM, RAM, bus, serial connectivity, and so on, it still relies on the Mac's video and other on-board functions as well. Sam -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
