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2003-01-17 Thread R.A. Cantrell
What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax
ends cable?
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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread dustinr

A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big 
ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 
monitor that uses those connectors.

dustin

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread dustinr
A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big 
ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 
monitor that uses those connectors.

dustin

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread dustinr

A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big 
ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 
monitor that uses those connectors.

dustin

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread dan_A
At 9:30 AM -0600 on 1/17/03, R.A. Cantrell wrote:

What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax
ends cable?

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I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi 
Diabond Pro 21 monitor. I've also used them in the past for the 
Barco Monitor which is a professional monitor that cost about $6,000 
in '98. I would imagine that there are a number of hi-end monitors 
that use them or have the option of using them.

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread the pickle
At 12:07 -0500 on 17/01/03, dan_A wrote:

I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi

Aye, that they are, or the thin coax connector is, at any rate.
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DigitalFilm card problems/solutions

2003-01-17 Thread Mark Benson
Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists 
to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped.

I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on 
the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a 
very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res. 
between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the 
signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency.

Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it 
display at a standard Res?

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread Dustin Rinebold
LOL...sorry guysthe IMP interface on campus was having a tough 
time, apparently.

dustin

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 12:53 PM, the pickle wrote:

 At 09:59 -0600 on 17/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically 
 the big
 ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have 
 a Sony 19
 monitor that uses those connectors.

 Yeah, we got that idea the first three times you posted it ;)
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Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions

2003-01-17 Thread Dustin Rinebold
Does your PC monitor work fine with any of the older Macs in general? I 
have a 19 Dell branded (Sony) monitor that simply won't work with any 
of my older Macs, while my 15 Sony monitor works just fine.

The reason I ask is that my DigitalFilm card automatically stepped down 
to whatever monitor I was using. For example, if I had it plugged into 
my 15 Sony and ran it at 1024x768, then turned around and plugged my 
13 Apple monitor into it - it'd automatically run at 640x480. I 
wouldn't need to reset anything...

dustin

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 01:08 PM, Mark Benson wrote:

 Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists
 to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped.

 I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on
 the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a
 very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res.
 between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the
 signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency.

 Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it
 display at a standard Res?

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2003-01-17 Thread Dan Knight
A big thank you to whoever sent me copies of all the digests I missed. :-)

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Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions

2003-01-17 Thread Mark Benson

On Friday, Jan 17, 2003, at 20:48 Europe/London, Dustin Rinebold wrote:

 Does your PC monitor work fine with any of the older Macs in general? I
 have a 19 Dell branded (Sony) monitor that simply won't work with any
 of my older Macs, while my 15 Sony monitor works just fine.

I have run everything from a Mc IIci to a PowerMac G3 BW through it 
and never had a problem. Of course my Mac- VGA adapter is part of the 
issue but I tried practically every setting with no success and the 
adapter *does* suport sync on green and other wierdo Mac video styles.

 The reason I ask is that my DigitalFilm card automatically stepped down
 to whatever monitor I was using. For example, if I had it plugged into
 my 15 Sony and ran it at 1024x768, then turned around and plugged my
 13 Apple monitor into it - it'd automatically run at 640x480. I
 wouldn't need to reset anything...

Hmm... it obviously uses sense lines.

I should maybe try my 12 RGB, although I don't think PowerMacs suppor 
512x384. I think I will have to tool wit the monitor adapter a bit more 
maybe :\

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Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions

2003-01-17 Thread the pickle
At 01:16 + on 18/01/03, Mark Benson wrote:

I should maybe try my 12 RGB, although I don't think PowerMacs suppor
512x384. I think I will have to tool wit the monitor adapter a bit more

A bit OT, but until OS X, I'm pretty sure everything does, with the possible
exception of a couple of the very new nVidia cards.  They also still support
the Portrait :)
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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread Carlos
Reply follows quoted original sent on 1/17/03 1:54 PM, by the pickle at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 At 12:07 -0500 on 17/01/03, dan_A wrote:
 
 I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi
 
 Aye, that they are, or the thin coax connector is, at any rate.

Some of these have three (RGB) and some have four (RBG+sync?) BNC
connectors.  I suppose the three are for sync-on-green monitors. We used to
refer to these as analog cables and monitors, I suppose because it's an
old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the
Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have
different pin-outs.  I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC
inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards.

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread the pickle
At 20:47 -0500 on 17/01/03, Carlos wrote:

Some of these have three (RGB) and some have four (RBG+sync?) BNC
connectors.  I suppose the three are for sync-on-green monitors. We used to

Sounds like a reasonable guess.  I hadn't thought of that, but it sure makes
sense now.  Thx for the info :)

old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the
Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have

Got an o-scope?  Or even a multimeter?  An o-scope would tell you for sure, and
a multimeter might.

different pin-outs.  I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC
inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards.

What cards?  I realise this is getting a bit OT...
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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread Carlos
Reply follows quoted original sent on 1/17/03 8:51 PM, by the pickle at
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 old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the
 Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have
 
 Got an o-scope?  Or even a multimeter?  An o-scope would tell you for sure,
 and
 a multimeter might.

 
 different pin-outs.  I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC
 inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards.
 
 What cards?  I realise this is getting a bit OT...

Tried my SuperMac 19 with an ATI Mach 64, Radius Precision 24, and IxMicro
Ultimate Rez.  Wouldn't sync with any of these using a three-BNC (RGB) card.
It worked fine connected with the three-connector cable and a SuperMac NuBus
video card.  Perhaps I need the four-cable with separate sync?

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Re: cables

2003-01-17 Thread dan_A
At 8:47 PM -0500 on 1/17/03, Carlos wrote:
  I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC
inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards.

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Hi Carlos-

The Mitsubishi monitor using this cable (which has 5 leads) is 
attached to an ims twin turbo 8m pci card in a Umax S900, upgraded to 
a G4/450. I do all my color correction on this monitor and I'm able 
to print what I see. I think the better monitors use this type of 
connection-perhaps the BNC cable help make them capable of being 
color balanced more accurately. I don't know if this is true but one 
of the greatest monitors I've ever used or seen was the Barco. It had 
a very sophisticated tuning system for color balance and distortion 
control. I had six of them in the shop I ran and was able 
correct/manipulate and print color images that were as seen on the 
screen. This was in 96 and 97 when color management was in its 
infancy. I've upgraded the S900 from a 604e/250 using sys 7.5 to a 
G4/450 using 9.1 without losing the function of the monitor or card.

dan_A

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