cables
What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax ends cable? -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 monitor that uses those connectors. dustin Quoting R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax ends cable? -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 monitor that uses those connectors. dustin Quoting R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax ends cable? -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 monitor that uses those connectors. dustin Quoting R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax ends cable? -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
At 9:30 AM -0600 on 1/17/03, R.A. Cantrell wrote: What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax ends cable? -- Hi- I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi Diabond Pro 21 monitor. I've also used them in the past for the Barco Monitor which is a professional monitor that cost about $6,000 in '98. I would imagine that there are a number of hi-end monitors that use them or have the option of using them. dan_A -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
At 12:07 -0500 on 17/01/03, dan_A wrote: I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi Aye, that they are, or the thin coax connector is, at any rate. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped. I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res. between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency. Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it display at a standard Res? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
LOL...sorry guysthe IMP interface on campus was having a tough time, apparently. dustin On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 12:53 PM, the pickle wrote: At 09:59 -0600 on 17/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of the older Sony, Radius, and SuperMac monitors - specifically the big ones (19, etc..) - used the coaxial connections on the back. I have a Sony 19 monitor that uses those connectors. Yeah, we got that idea the first three times you posted it ;) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
Does your PC monitor work fine with any of the older Macs in general? I have a 19 Dell branded (Sony) monitor that simply won't work with any of my older Macs, while my 15 Sony monitor works just fine. The reason I ask is that my DigitalFilm card automatically stepped down to whatever monitor I was using. For example, if I had it plugged into my 15 Sony and ran it at 1024x768, then turned around and plugged my 13 Apple monitor into it - it'd automatically run at 640x480. I wouldn't need to reset anything... dustin On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 01:08 PM, Mark Benson wrote: Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped. I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res. between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency. Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it display at a standard Res? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
thanks for Vintage Macs digests
A big thank you to whoever sent me copies of all the digests I missed. :-) Dan the listmom -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Missing Vintage Macs digests
Ignore the previous message. The emails I received did *not* contain the digests, only the indexes from the missing digests. If anyone on the list can redirect (a feature some email programs have and others don't -- it's different from forwarding) copies of the following digests to me, I'd really appreciate it. Vintage Macs Digest #1566-1569 Vintage Macs Digest #1571-1573 Thanks! Dan the Listmom -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
On Friday, Jan 17, 2003, at 20:48 Europe/London, Dustin Rinebold wrote: Does your PC monitor work fine with any of the older Macs in general? I have a 19 Dell branded (Sony) monitor that simply won't work with any of my older Macs, while my 15 Sony monitor works just fine. I have run everything from a Mc IIci to a PowerMac G3 BW through it and never had a problem. Of course my Mac- VGA adapter is part of the issue but I tried practically every setting with no success and the adapter *does* suport sync on green and other wierdo Mac video styles. The reason I ask is that my DigitalFilm card automatically stepped down to whatever monitor I was using. For example, if I had it plugged into my 15 Sony and ran it at 1024x768, then turned around and plugged my 13 Apple monitor into it - it'd automatically run at 640x480. I wouldn't need to reset anything... Hmm... it obviously uses sense lines. I should maybe try my 12 RGB, although I don't think PowerMacs suppor 512x384. I think I will have to tool wit the monitor adapter a bit more maybe :\ -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
At 01:16 + on 18/01/03, Mark Benson wrote: I should maybe try my 12 RGB, although I don't think PowerMacs suppor 512x384. I think I will have to tool wit the monitor adapter a bit more A bit OT, but until OS X, I'm pretty sure everything does, with the possible exception of a couple of the very new nVidia cards. They also still support the Portrait :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
Reply follows quoted original sent on 1/17/03 1:54 PM, by the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 12:07 -0500 on 17/01/03, dan_A wrote: I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi Aye, that they are, or the thin coax connector is, at any rate. Some of these have three (RGB) and some have four (RBG+sync?) BNC connectors. I suppose the three are for sync-on-green monitors. We used to refer to these as analog cables and monitors, I suppose because it's an old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have different pin-outs. I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards. carlos -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
At 20:47 -0500 on 17/01/03, Carlos wrote: Some of these have three (RGB) and some have four (RBG+sync?) BNC connectors. I suppose the three are for sync-on-green monitors. We used to Sounds like a reasonable guess. I hadn't thought of that, but it sure makes sense now. Thx for the info :) old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have Got an o-scope? Or even a multimeter? An o-scope would tell you for sure, and a multimeter might. different pin-outs. I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards. What cards? I realise this is getting a bit OT... -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
Reply follows quoted original sent on 1/17/03 8:51 PM, by the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED]: old-style analog video. I've always wondered if the pin-outs on the Macintosh/DB-15 end are all the same or if different video cards have Got an o-scope? Or even a multimeter? An o-scope would tell you for sure, and a multimeter might. different pin-outs. I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards. What cards? I realise this is getting a bit OT... Tried my SuperMac 19 with an ATI Mach 64, Radius Precision 24, and IxMicro Ultimate Rez. Wouldn't sync with any of these using a three-BNC (RGB) card. It worked fine connected with the three-connector cable and a SuperMac NuBus video card. Perhaps I need the four-cable with separate sync? C -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables
At 8:47 PM -0500 on 1/17/03, Carlos wrote: I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards. carlos -- Hi Carlos- The Mitsubishi monitor using this cable (which has 5 leads) is attached to an ims twin turbo 8m pci card in a Umax S900, upgraded to a G4/450. I do all my color correction on this monitor and I'm able to print what I see. I think the better monitors use this type of connection-perhaps the BNC cable help make them capable of being color balanced more accurately. I don't know if this is true but one of the greatest monitors I've ever used or seen was the Barco. It had a very sophisticated tuning system for color balance and distortion control. I had six of them in the shop I ran and was able correct/manipulate and print color images that were as seen on the screen. This was in 96 and 97 when color management was in its infancy. I've upgraded the S900 from a 604e/250 using sys 7.5 to a G4/450 using 9.1 without losing the function of the monitor or card. dan_A -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com