8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
On Nov 20, 2003, at 08:08 am, Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk I should just add that I can mount the ~/Public folders on both machines so it's not a protocol issue, it's something to do with Authentication. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: E-Machines ColorLink Video/E-net Card
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0800 From: J.S. Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/18/03 9:49 PM, Jeff Walther at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using a Colorlink card by Emachines? Is the ethernet portion compatible with Open Transport? I ask, because I have a Futura IISX with the ethernet daughterboard and the card freezes my IIci when the OT extensions load. It works fine with Classic Networking. So I'm wondering if the ColorLink has the same problem. Jeff Walther There are three versions of the ColorLink. COLORLINK DC/T COLORLINK SX/2 COLORLINK SX/T None of which has any info I can find about an ethernet daughtercard. If you can list the exact model, maybe more info can be found. Yes, the info in the video section on Lowendmac.com is pretty sketchy on these cards. For one thing, I have the XL2, which isn't even mentioned. For another, all of the above cards have 10baseT built in (not on a daughter card) but that isn't mentioned. The XL2 has a 10base2 connector, the BNC you mention in your next posting, I suspect. The daughter card ethernet is on the Futura IISX. The Colorlink had it built in to the main card. I guess that was the Colorlink's claim to fame. Anyway, googling turned up about six links. There's somewhat more in dejanews (google groups) but nothing about Open Transport compatibility. Most of the posts probably predate wide spread use of Open Transport. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Try setting up a Guest account on the OSX box and assign a password then use that from the other Macs. = You never have to repair or replace what you leave out of the design. William Bill Powell Lear, inventor of the 8-Track tape and the Learjet. __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Except for the original Mac II and the LC (both 68020 Macs) all the Macs supported by this list can connect to a file server via tcp/ip and are compatible with a version of the appleshare client software that puts the 'ip adress' button in the chooser. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? They did not kill the classic os, it is still a part of their new OS and probably will remain so for years to come because there is nothing to gain from dropping the support, on the contrary. BTW It is one paid OS update each year. Still quite a lot.. .Must be the reason why Apple is the only pc manufacturer, apart from Dell, which isn't bleeding money. With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. It is not, but connecting vintage macs to OS X macs is pretty much on topic, just like connecting vintage macs to linux boxes, windows 2000 fileservers etc. And I am pretty sure this list has more unix savvy people than all other lem lists combined. I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
On the death of a IIfx
For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. Greetings, Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Marten van de Kraats wrote: Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Except for the original Mac II and the LC (both 68020 Macs) all the Macs supported by this list can connect to a file server via tcp/ip and are compatible with a version of the appleshare client software that puts the 'ip adress' button in the chooser. What version is required to get the ip address button, I have no need for it and would like to point out that that Mark shouldn't either. Original where possible on my on topic macs. 3.8.x? Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? They did not kill the classic os, it is still a part of their new OS and probably will remain so for years to come because there is nothing to gain from dropping the support, on the contrary. BTW It is one paid OS update each year. Still quite a lot.. .Must be the reason why Apple is the only pc manufacturer, apart from Dell, which isn't bleeding money. My mistake, what was it 18 months between Jaguar and Panther? Close for pay to play but fair enough for pray for speed as the case may be. I believe Apple delivered this time round. No one would cry over the loss of dell, mac heads would have to find another company to bash while the pc community rejoice, I guess that wont happen soon. Meanwhile, Apple really shouldn't turn a loss now, all things considered. With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. It is not, but connecting vintage macs to OS X macs is pretty much on topic, just like connecting vintage macs to linux boxes, windows 2000 fileservers etc. And I am pretty sure this list has more unix savvy people than all other lem lists combined. Are all mac folk now counted as Unix savvy? LOL I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. 7100 rather than 7200, lets get the all important form factor right. Can't imagine why not, other upgrade paths are classed as on topic on other lists while bearing little in common with the list subject. The 7100 is vx factor and as such fits in a backwards god NO sorta way. My netatalk setup did have a small problem with the server being listed in the macs chooser, this was corrected with the firewall settings or one of the server configs. In this case the ip address button on a ppc would still work as you described. Sorry I can't be more helpful Mark. Its so nice to have the old and new nanny in the same thread again, now where's the traffic? All in fun folks. :) Cheers. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
7100cx
Mark, Do you have any pictures or other info on your 7100cx that you could share? I am collecting parts to do the same. Thanks. Bob -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: On the death of a IIfx
Marten van de Kraats wrote: For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. PSU Marten? couldn't you just replace it or does that just bring you back to the fan noise again? I've often wondered why upgraded aio mac users insist on running a internal psu, limiting space and adding heat when compared to a external psu which would require the fitting of a plug. Maybe its a mac thing or is it some psu wierdness, anyone looked at the option as there are many fanless external psu's available? stupid question would be an acceptable answer. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: On Nov 20, 2003, at 08:08 am, Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. I should just add that I can mount the ~/Public folders on both machines so it's not a protocol issue, it's something to do with Authentication. In this case the target folder or parent folder permissions may be set wrong. A problem with uid, gid somewhere? I hope that has some use under osX. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
What version is required to get the ip address button, I have no need for it and would like to point out that that Mark shouldn't either. Original where possible on my on topic macs. 3.8.x? I am not sure about the version. Someting like 3.7.x or 3.8.x... No one would cry over the loss of dell, mac heads would have to find another company to bash while the pc community rejoice, I guess that wont happen soon. It won't. Dell is one big sucess story, commercially anyway. Meanwhile, Apple really shouldn't turn a loss now, all things considered. Who said they were? They are doing pretty well. As I said, they are the only other (next to Dell) pc manufacturer actually earning money. I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. 7100 rather than 7200, lets get the all important form factor right. Can't imagine why not, other upgrade paths are classed as on topic on other lists while bearing little in common with the list subject. The 7100 is vx factor and as such fits in a backwards god NO sorta way. Well it is a nubus mac and totally obsolete... That kind of fits the list requirement. Just wondered... There is a g3 upgrade for the 7100cx... What about running os x on that... Been done? Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Why should one want to use appletalk when running mac os 8.1 on the client machine? Appletalk is an inferior protocol that should be avoided when you have the alternative of IP. The only reason I am using it is because of my laserwriters being appletalk only and my personal server (fanless LC running AppleShare 3) also not being able to share via IP. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: On the death of a IIfx
Marten van de Kraats wrote: For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. PSU Marten? couldn't you just replace it or does that just bring you back to the fan noise again? Of course I can replace it. The IIfx is not really dead. They are very very hard to kill. -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: On the death of a IIfx
on 11/20/03 3:05 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. Greetings, Marten AAAck!!! Aww, MArten, didja REALLY kill the beast?! Sure it can't be resuscitated? Jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
