Quickdraw & Color/IWII; Was: Re: ScuzzyGraph Anyone?

[Jeff Walther]

Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:30:20 -0400
From: "Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:51:20PM -0500, Derek R. Morton wrote:
 A mint condition ScuzzyGraph!  Amazingly rare...  which the BuyItNow
 prices attests to.  Not my personal cup of tea as I am more into the
 Quadra series, but still!  I believe (my memory does get foggy as the
 years pass) the graphics are somewhat primitive in that there is only
 one bit per color (8 total colors including black, white, primary and
 secondary), but you do get color out of your Plus.
On a slight tangent: while the 8 colours may also be a limitation
of the adapter, it is also a limitation of QuickDraw.  I seem to
recall reading that the non-Colour QuickDraw could support 8 colours,
a feature which was supposed to be used for colour printers.
Correct.  This becomes apparent if one connects an IWII (Imagewriter 
II) to a Mac Plus and installs the four color ribbon.   In general, 
you can't print color.  But use an application like Excel in which 
one can assign colors to cells and then print to the IWII and voila, 
color.  I think.  It's been years since I tried this experiment, so I 
may be off a bit.   IIRC, the Apple driver (extension) for the IWII 
only supports regular Quickdraw so it's limited to 8 colors as well, 
even if you connect it to a more capable computer.

If you want real color printing from the IWII then you need 
Microspot's MacPalette II software.  This is an extension (print 
driver) for the IWII which will use the four color ribbon to print up 
to 24 bit color graphics, all done with various dithering algorithms 
to mix the color dots on the page.   The images printed that way are 
not great (what is it? 144 dpi  or 72 dpi?) but they are amazingly 
good compared to what I expected from a dot matrix printer doing 
color.

MacPalette II comes in a serial version and an Appletalk version. 
I've used it with all the OS 7's through OS 9.1 and it works great.

My only complaint is that it prints everything in tall adjusted, so 
if you use it to print text it looks like crap.Perhaps, I'm 
missing some detail about printing text which I have forgotten over 
the years.  I don't remember having this problem when I first got it, 
but I may not have tried text then.

Anyway, the regular IWII driver works fine for text, but it would be 
nice to use the MacPalette II driver for text documents as well, as 
MP II includes a print spooler, so that printing to the IWII doesn't 
tie up one's computer during the printing.

Jeff Walther

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Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- "Robert J. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a
> Apple Color
> Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to
> find the Install
> floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. 

Download the 7.5.3 19 part Self Mounting Image and
the 7.5.5 update floppy Disk Copy images from Apple.
To use the 7.5.3, put all the parts in one folder then
doubleclick the first part to mount the image.
If you have the room or something like a Zip drive
you can copy the files from the image. The 7.5.5
update
can be copied to floppies.

Drivers for all the printers you mentioned are part
of the 7.5.3 install.

> I have several PC's [XT's thru Pentium I's] and
> 22Disk can I transfer from PC to Mac Floppies???

Try TransMac for Windows. The demo is limited to
transferring files small enough to fit on a 1.44M
floppy. Download on your PC in .bin or .hqx
encoding and TransMac can decode as it copies to
the Mac floppy.

The only way available to read/write 400 or 800K
Mac floppies on a PC is with the "catweasel" disk
controller. Used to be made as an ISA card and now
is made in a PCI version. It also enables direct
reading of Amiga floppies and other odd formats.
If anyone cared to do it, I bet there's a way to
"rip" low density Mac disks to image files by
connecting a Mac drive to a PC parallel or serial
port. I ran across a way to do same with Amiga
disks by interfacing an Amiga drive to a PC parallel
port. Read only and only copies the entire disk,
but works to get software for the Amiga Emulator.

There used to be a device called the Central Point
Option Board which plugged inline between your PC's
floppy controller and the floppy drive. It hasn't
been made in several years and I doubt it works in
anything but DOS.

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Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 20/04/2004 10:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a Apple Color
>Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to find the Install
>floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. 

Under the Apple Menu, drop down to "Chooser." See if icons for
the Imagewriter or stylewriter appear. If so, the drivers are
installed. Just click on the onw you want to use, then click on
the port they are connected to and close the Chooser.

You should have "Extensions Manager" under the Apple Menu,
Control Panels. You may have the drivers installed, but
unchecked. If present, check them and restart the computer.
See if the printers show up in the Chooser.

If no luck, the drivers can be downloaded from the Apple Website.
If no luck there, ask again and I or someone else can email them to you.

>It curently has a Laserwriter Plus on the Desktop. Can that be
>uninstalled??

It is probably an "alias" (shortcut). Drag it to the trash.

>I also have a USR Sportster 28.8 external with cables. Got to find a
>Power Pack can't determine voltage. 

Thought I had a USR modem around here, but if so, can't lay my hands
on it just now, sorrry.

>The 700 is set up with Power Talk but don't have the Key Chain Code to
>unlock with.

It's been a LONG time since I played, briefly, with PowerTalk. I suspect
you can just "uncheck" all PowerTalk named items in the Extensions
Manager and reboot. Save memory.
 
>I have several PC's [XT's thru Pentium I's] and 22Disk can I transfer
>from PC to Mac Floppies???

Well, you should be able to read PC floppies on the Mac, but it is MUCH
more of a problem the other way around. Do the downloads to the PC, stick
the floppy in the Mac and save to the Mac Hard Drive.

>Hoping
>TIA
>Bob in Wisconsin

Have fun.

Ken, in Oregon

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Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

[Robert J. Stevens]

I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a Apple Color
Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to find the Install
floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. 
It curently has a Laserwriter Plus on the Desktop. Can that be
uninstalled??
I also have a USR Sportster 28.8 external with cables. Got to find a
Power Pack can't determine voltage. 
The 700 is set up with Power Talk but don't have the Key Chain Code to
unlock with. 
I have several PC's [XT's thru Pentium I's] and 22Disk can I transfer
from PC to Mac Floppies???
Hoping
TIA
Bob in Wisconsin


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Re: Ethernet for a Classic II

[Mark Benson]

 
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 12:42PM, Bryan Kattwinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>on 4/17/04 3:49 PM, John Niven wrote:
>
>>No, sorry. There is no equivalent pds slot on the Classic II. The only 
>>way to get ethernet on those is to use a SCSI to ethernet converter 
>>like the Asante EN/SC.
>
>The Farallon Mac/PB Etherwave device also works nicely on the Classics.

Bit of a slow/weird way to go about it but if you only need pure Appletalk access (not 
TCP/IP) you can use a Localtalk bridge, either on another classic era Mac or a 
hardware box.

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Re: Ethernet for a Classic II

[Bryan Kattwinkel]

on 4/17/04 3:49 PM, John Niven wrote:

>No, sorry. There is no equivalent pds slot on the Classic II. The only 
>way to get ethernet on those is to use a SCSI to ethernet converter 
>like the Asante EN/SC.

The Farallon Mac/PB Etherwave device also works nicely on the Classics.


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